View Full Version : What is the situational usage of Rescue
Faljar
04-02-2005, 09:08 AM
Reading the description on the Art is a little unclear. If I target the Healer and use Rescue, is that supposed to peel a mob off of the Healer or am I supposed to target the Mob on the Healer and cast Rescue to peel? <div></div>
OgApostrap
04-02-2005, 09:29 AM
It moves you up by 1 on the current aggro list.. It wont work unless your the second.. if your the third or fourth its jsut like taunting..
-Aonein-
04-02-2005, 02:10 PM
<P>Well if you had agro and you lose it, you have lost one position, so to get it back easily, you fire this and have a taunt queued action so the moment it fires, taunt is following right behind.</P> <P>If you have adds, and it agros someone else before you get to it, and then people buff and heal, then your likely to be at the bottom of the hate postion, and using this will only push you in front of the person who is ahead of you. So because there is no acual hate meter in the game it makes it hard in a situation like that to work out who is ahead of you, so its safer to to just make sure you move to safe palces, dont rush etc.</P> <P>Taemek Frozenberg 46th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</P>
Has anyone had success with Rescue? The times that I have needed it to work it has failed me. Now I do realize that if at those times I was lower than 2nd on the hate list, that it wouldnt have worked at all. A good test would be to just duo with someone, have them generate extreme amounts of aggro, then you should be able to walk up and hit rescue and pull agro. I havent remembered to try this when online, I'm just curious if anyone else has. <div></div>
I've tried it with duoing with a shaman, haven't had rescue work whenever I let him have aggro.
Out of curiousity I did test this last night. I was grouped with an Inquisitor buddy and watch from afar as he fought a solo patchwork man in nek forest. Once he got the npc down to about 10% health, I approached and hit Rescue, and the mob DID turn on me. So I guess Rescue is extremely situational. If you are grouped with one other person, it's great, except the huge reuse time. If you are grouped with multiple people, odds are if you lose aggro, Rescue wont help you get it back, at least it never has in my experience. <div></div>
Averni
04-10-2005, 09:38 AM
<DIV>hears a boggle..raging blow says it moves you up by like 300 positions..type maybe?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>oh and i have adept 3 rescue...if i lose agro..and pump single and AE taunt into them, then rescue..normally..they dont pop off immediatly.. takes a lil skill spamming</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but it does work nicely as a third taunt</DIV>
WolfSha
04-11-2005, 03:27 PM
<P>Maybe i'm doing something wrong here, but it's only as complicated as clicking the button surely???</P> <P>I duo with my g/f's fury 75% of my play time and rescue has NEVER worked for me when i've tried it.</P> <P>Now given that there are only 2 of us, rescue should work 100% of the time? yes? maybe? i'm i being dumb?</P> <P> </P> <P>Can someone confirm whether your supposed to be casting it on the group member that has agro or the mob?</P> <P>And is it supposed to work on the whole encounter or just one mob?</P> <P>e.g. if i've lagged or fallen asleep or something and lost agro in a really bad way and the healer has 2 mobs on them, is rescue supposed to bring both back on me or just one?</P> <P>I know i'm risking "Try it out and see" posts, but it's a long re-use timer and i have played with it and had no luck and i'm bored of trying to figue it out! someone just tell me!! :smileysad:</P>
Averni
04-11-2005, 04:06 PM
<P>when it says moves you up by one position, thats not true... it might have been ment that way originally, but the taunt is broken now. It does however work as a wonderful 3rd taunt if you lose agro. After pumping 2 taunts and rescue..the mob will normally pop back to me, or i might have to spam a few specials, but almost always comes back.</P> <P>I checked it and like i said above, Berzerkers have a special that raises your hate lvl 400-some positions. so i believe it just means hate points.</P>
Davish_Darkwolf
04-11-2005, 04:29 PM
<DIV>When you use a skill that raises your Hate by 400x its Hate points, not position. Wish there was a parser somewhere that would let me see Hate levels during a fight.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rescue has worked for me during fights but not always, i find buffs like Havoc or Anarchy much more eficient in gaining aggro back again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
WolfSha
04-11-2005, 04:57 PM
<DIV>Yeah, buffing, esp group defence is normally as good as an AE taunt... use that trick if all else fails... i saw a thread on the hate generation once.... i really wish i could remember what it was titled, i'd find it and post it here...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not counting dmg as that's rather variable, it was something like </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Group Heals->Taunts->Group Defence buffs->Heals->Group Stat buffs->Other group buffs (pathfinding etc)->etc etc etc etc.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But i can't remember exacty... if i loose agro i tent to just spam everything until i get it back :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The description text on rescue states "Raises you hate position by 1" (from memory)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But says that it rasises hate by about 400 at the bottom on the window in the calculated effects bit... which is what it actually seems to do. Not bad, but not a guaranteed raise your position by 1, esp if you bard decides to re-buffed the group or your healer decides that a group heal was a good idea, right at the start of the fight!! :smileysad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So do we reckon this is another broken spell for the list or have they intentionally changed what it does without changing the text? Guesses anyone? :smileytongue:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
CherobylJ
04-11-2005, 06:07 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Davish_Darkwolf wrote:<BR> <DIV>When you use a skill that raises your Hate by 400x its Hate points, not position. Wish there was a parser somewhere that would let me see Hate levels during a fight.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rescue has worked for me during fights but not always, i find buffs like Havoc or Anarchy much more eficient in gaining aggro back again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Agree with Dav 100pct...Anarchy is the true rescue. Rescue is so erratic that I just dont rely upon it unless its last ditch/no choice territory.
JDDbull
04-13-2005, 05:01 PM
I still havent figures out how it decides when to work and when not to work, it seems pretty erratic to me as well. I just use it in the rare instance I lose aggro and hope it works, but since I am blastin off ever hate skill I have at this point I can never tell what it wass that did the trick.
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