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Kannab
03-04-2005, 01:31 AM
<DIV> <P><SPAN>I know there is a lot of preference out there, but I wanna get some idea of what zerkers are using at level 40+.<SPAN>  </SPAN>I normally change the weapons I use depending on the situation so I carry with me a variety of everything.<SPAN>  </SPAN>With this said please tell: </SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Which is the best 2H?</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Which is the best 1 Hander and Shield combo?</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Which are the best dual wields?</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN><FONT color=#000000></FONT></SPAN> </P></DIV>

Ziz
03-04-2005, 03:01 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kannabis wrote:<BR> <DIV> <P><SPAN>I know there is a lot of preference out there, but I wanna get some idea of what zerkers are using at level 40+.<SPAN>  </SPAN>I normally change the weapons I use depending on the situation so I carry with me a variety of everything.<SPAN>  </SPAN>With this said please tell: </SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Which is the best 2H?</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Which is the best 1 Hander and Shield combo?</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Which are the best dual wields?</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN><FONT color=#000000></FONT></SPAN> </P></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Here's what i use:</FONT></DIV> <DIV></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>2H:  EBBC</FONT></DIV> <DIV></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>1H/Shield:  Blood Fire/Pristine Conditioned Cedar Tower Shield</FONT></DIV> <DIV></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Duel Wield: I use different combos on these. </FONT></DIV> <DIV>For 2ndary/DPS i use: SSOY/Pristine Forged Ebon Mace</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Solo I use: PGT/PFEM</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Also have: 2nd PFEM and SBD</FONT> </DIV>

eqaddi
03-04-2005, 03:08 AM
<DIV>I use</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2H: Ebon Executioner's Axe</DIV> <DIV>1H: Ebon Warhammer (or maybe it's battelhemmer) and Clay Guardian Shield</DIV> <DIV>Dual Wield: SSoY, SBD</DIV>

-Aonein-
03-04-2005, 03:15 AM
<DIV>From the parser's ive ran, there is basically little difference from 2 hand weps too Dual weild wep's. The reason for Dual Weild and 2 Hand is based on Riposte's, you wll get less Riposte's using a 2 hand wep then you will Dual Weild's, but riposte's in this game arent that bad. With one hand and shield its really not about your damage when using this combo, its more about being effcient with your HP, of course the better the One hander the better the DPS, but id aim for the best shield you can afford at the time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you asked me what the best is i couldnt give you a answer because there is so many quest's and item's out there that are all practicaly even or just as good, if i was going to say what i think the best is at the current moment from a lvl 40 - 50 point of view, id have to say ( bare in mind im speaking from a group point of view here, not a raid point of view ), Short Sword of Ykesha and Serrated Bone Dirk for dual weild, Heriophant's Crook for 2 Hand and atm im using a pristine forged fulginated assault axe and pristine conditioned cedar tower shield which is made from a tier 5 rare. The shield ill never upgrade unless i get a master chest drop shield and same goes for the one hander im using unless there is a One hander Heritage quest out there after lvl 40 which i dont think there is, or a decent quest, there is a awesome One hand Axe from a master chest in Feerrott i think, cant quite remember the name of it, when i find it ill throw it here.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Taemek Frozenberg 41th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Blood and Ice<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</DIV>

Hardain
03-04-2005, 03:24 AM
Im using pristine forged fulginate assault axe which is nice one hander and pristine cedar tower shield, i would craft ebon assault axe if ebon wouldn't be so expensiveFor damage im using only 2 handed axe atm, Mess Sergeant's Axe which is master chest drop and has very good dmg, and also procsIm planning to do SBD and SSoY qsts and see how good they are for me

Thuyk
03-04-2005, 03:47 AM
<DIV>I'm holding back on finishing my heritage quests until I join a guild, so I am instead using a Pristine Forged Ebon Halberd, as shown below:  :smileyhappy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://home.san.rr.com/thuytran/pictures/ebonhalberd.JPG"></DIV>

quikswor
03-04-2005, 03:56 AM
<DIV>You're right, ripostes arent that bad in this game - up until you get riposted for 8.5k damage......</DIV>

Wolfherz
03-04-2005, 04:10 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> quikswordd wrote:<BR> <DIV>You're right, ripostes arent that bad in this game - up until you get riposted for 8.5k damage......</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Are you certain you get riposted more with Dual Wield than with 2h weapons. During beta the devs told us that this wouldn't be a factor anymore. That certainly is true for procs for instance, so I assume its true for riposte as well.

quikswor
03-04-2005, 04:17 AM
<DIV>everytime you swing - you get a chance to be riposted. So the faster your weapon is, and the more swings you take, the more you will get riposted.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Why do you think that whenever, let's say lord nagalik turns and aggroes a scout who was doing too much damage that all of a sudden you see like 5 - 6 scout type go instantly to red health or die, while all the tanks that are dps'ing with 2h'ed weapons hardly ever have it happen to them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Assasins are especially prone to this, since they have their own 2 self hastes, then give them a form of group haste, and watch how fast and how often they get riposted when the mob gets turned.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Test it if you want. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Enshredder</DIV> <DIV>50 berserker</DIV> <DIV>Ardent Legion - Mistmoore Server</DIV>

Styk
03-04-2005, 04:38 AM
IMO the Heriophants crook is the best zerker weapon in the game atm for one main reason.... the proc on it is an AE DD and goes off for me at least 2 times a fight.... couple that with bloodrage... since bloodrage is a 33% chance to proc upon a successful attack and from what ive noticed the procs count in that equation ( i have had back to back proc from crook and back to back hits from blood rage, one after each other.... and happens quite frequently) 2nd weapon im thinking ( thou i havent used yet ) is a Monsoon Sword of the Swiftwind... doesnt have the stats like the EBBC and HC but the 10% haste on it stacks with items haste , that and zerker haste for me = more chance for bloodrage to proc... thou i havent seen data yet on haste affecting procs ive noticed for how many lvls now that when im hasted i proc more often then when im not hasted.... EBBC is third on my list.... dmg is great , stats are great , rated by many as the best 2H in the game atm but one thing it doesnt have is an AE DD, like i said about that is why i choose it over Monsoon or EBBC... also i hate the look of the EBBC, looks like a rusted weapon... if they kept the particle effects on it like it is as a quest giver then the sword would own but as it is, it looks like crap...For duel wield im using 2 Pristine Forged Fulginate Cresent Axes and Polished Granite Tomahawk.... the cresent axes have zerker look all over them and they do good dmg and have good stats.... PGT well you know , the proc its self is great for long fightsStrykr Destructicus45 BerserkerAB Server

Styk
03-04-2005, 04:40 AM
oops forgot about Sword and Board... atm im using a Swinefiend Battle Axe with a Pristine Conditioned Cedar Tower Shield , but the Swinefiend will be replaced as soon as i can finsh the Heart of Fear quest ( on ring part already ) for BloodfireStrykr Destructicus45 Berserker

Rathi
03-04-2005, 05:19 AM
Thuyker: That weapon looks sick I have never seen one before. I might have to pick one up just for fun <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Toxa
03-04-2005, 05:37 AM
<DIV>anyone have a pic of pristine forged ebon assault axe?</DIV>

Flor
03-04-2005, 06:22 AM
3 weapons that i use. Pics in the gallery section.I use the ebon axe when in a group, but i use the screaming mace when i duo with my healer.I like the mace better, couse it has long delay, great damage. Due to our attack speed, we pretty much cap 1 sec with like all the weapons, so , imo, is better to use a long delay high damage. Cant use it in a group couse when it procs it has a reduce hate effect.Forgot to add the damage in the pics. The stats of them are on the bottom of the pic, here are the damage numbers:Screaming mace : 2.3 sec 51-153 damageSandblasted Maul: 2.4 sec 75-225 damageEbon axe: 2.0 sec 45-134 damage.<a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer_gallery.vm?characterId=102481102" target=_blank>Weapons</a>

Ziz
03-04-2005, 06:36 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> quikswordd wrote:<BR> <DIV>everytime you swing - you get a chance to be riposted. So the faster your weapon is, and the more swings you take, the more you will get riposted.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>I do agree with you, but if you put it into perspective, riposte's for dw's are on average about  25-50dmg where a 2H would net you 150-300dmg.  It balances itself out and you dont notice any difference.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Why do you think that whenever, let's say lord nagalik turns and aggroes a scout who was doing too much damage that all of a sudden you see like 5 - 6 scout type go instantly to red health or die, while all the tanks that are dps'ing with 2h'ed weapons hardly ever have it happen to them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>I'm under the impression you are referring to when the mob spins around and barrages the whole mess of them.  Just a mob spinning and riposting a 25-50dmg hit does NOT take the life of 3-4 people down to red like you are saying, only barrages do that. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Assasins are especially prone to this, since they have their own 2 self hastes, then give them a form of group haste, and watch how fast and how often they get riposted when the mob gets turned.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Test it if you want. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Enshredder</DIV> <DIV>50 berserker</DIV> <DIV>Ardent Legion - Mistmoore Server</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

-Aonein-
03-04-2005, 09:54 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> quikswordd wrote:<BR> <DIV>everytime you swing - you get a chance to be riposted. So the faster your weapon is, and the more swings you take, the more you will get riposted.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Why do you think that whenever, let's say lord nagalik turns and aggroes a scout who was doing too much damage that all of a sudden you see like 5 - 6 scout type go instantly to red health or die, while all the tanks that are dps'ing with 2h'ed weapons hardly ever have it happen to them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Assasins are especially prone to this, since they have their own 2 self hastes, then give them a form of group haste, and watch how fast and how often they get riposted when the mob gets turned.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Test it if you want. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Enshredder</DIV> <DIV>50 berserker</DIV> <DIV>Ardent Legion - Mistmoore Server</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Riposte can only be done to those who are standing in front of the mob, so if your assassins are in front of the mob they deserve to die, if your main tank cant hold agro, he deserve's to die, if there behind the mob, there more then likely getting smacked with Barrage or a PB AE spell. How many people are fighting lvl 54 group x 4 ^^^ mob's dual weilding?</P> <P>I dont dual weild named mob's, well i do, only normal one group mob's, you would be pretty stupid to take on a group x 4 raid mob dual weilding, if you did, you deserve to die. It's a common sense thing.</P> <P>From a standard group point of view, Riposte's arent that big a deal, you can safely dual weild yellow con mob's and MT for a group np. With a good group you can even dual weild on yellow con named mob's np.</P> <P>Taemek Frozenberg 41th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Blood and Ice<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</P><p>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <span class=date_text>03-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:56 PM</span>

CherobylJ
03-04-2005, 11:30 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> quikswordd wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>everytime you swing - you get a chance to be riposted. So the faster your weapon is, and the more swings you take, the more you will get riposted.</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Back in the day with EQ1  (was it 4 years ago?) on Steelwarrior we had the same question pop up. There were emphatic words from both camps 2 handed vs dual wield with the riposte question.  Bottom line is nothing was proven until alot of parses (with static mob, weapon set to weapon set, you know scientific method stuff) was done.  When the dust settled it came our that damage from ripostes was not material (against the subjective wisdom of the day which ironically was almost word for word what is stated above).</P> <P>My point: parse it, follow rigid methods and then post (perhaps someone has already done this for EQ2 I dont know). </P> <P><BR> </P>

CreativeBetaHand
03-04-2005, 10:46 PM
<DIV>Ripostes are a much bigger deal end game when they are for 3k+.. But you are more likely to be behind the mob then... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I concider my main factors in weapon choice to be delay.. As a zerker we are the class with the best haste in the game.. with FBSS at 15 TOW at 50 Destructive rage at 10.. and then a single zerk or double zerk and rage.. we can keep ourselves self buffed to roughly 125% haste.. Since, I believe, there is a min delay of 1 on all weapons this decreases the usefulness of haste with DW weapons.. (I'm only fairly sure of this.. not positive).. I just notice a much higher dmg output w/ a 2h weapon.. and I believe its because haste has more of a factor with the large delay of 2h weapons.. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Thinm
03-04-2005, 11:13 PM
<DIV>In reply to the OP:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 43 atm, I use:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2h: Heirophant's Crook</DIV> <DIV>1h/shield: no thanks</DIV> <DIV>DW: SSOY/SBD</DIV><p>Message Edited by Thinman on <span class=date_text>03-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:14 AM</span>

snapgor
03-04-2005, 11:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> <P>There's lots of good stuff out there, but if you want the best, you have to get it from a master chest which means raids or farming hundreds of named mobs.</P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for me, I use:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- Vicious Sai (Dual Wield):  +14agi, +16str, +46HP, +44Mana, Proc: 12% chance to inflict 184-308 points of direct damage .. damage is like 33-73 w/1.7 delay   (don't remember exactly)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Najena Whip (Dual Wield): +13agi, +17str, +45HP, +45Mana, damage is like 28-50 w/1.2 delay (don't remember exactly)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- Bloodfire (1 handed)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=time_text><IMG src="http://www.elysiumguild.com/uploads/vsaiz.jpg"></SPAN></DIV><p>Message Edited by snapgorth on <span class=date_text>03-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:18 AM</span>

Adewale
03-05-2005, 10:36 AM
Where's data saying there's a 1 second cap? I know for a LONG time there was the myth that EQ1 had a cap and it simply did not... I can't help but fear that myth has made it over to EQ2.

Sabin the Gre
03-08-2005, 02:48 AM
<DIV>Currently at level 40 (prior to any raiding):  </DIV> <DIV>Tundran War Axe + Shaped Conditioned Cedar Tower Shield (to cap AC faster)</DIV> <DIV>Tundran War Axe:</DIV> <DIV>55-164 1 Hand Damage at 50</DIV> <DIV>1.6 Sec Delay</DIV> <DIV>+5 int</DIV> <DIV>+8 Agi</DIV> <DIV>+10 Str</DIV> <DIV>+7 Wis</DIV> <DIV>+49 Health </DIV> <DIV>+42 Power   </DIV> <DIV>Skill 200-250</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Note:  This weapons owns any ebon 1 hander.  I found this on the broker for 80g and go a hell of a deal.  Also if you do the math, unless you're using Heritage or Elite drop dual wields, this weapon actually has better dps if you just do the rough math.  You'll get less stats, but to equal the damage output you'd need 2x 27-82 damage dual wields with 1.6 sec delays.  Food for thought.</DIV>

-Aonein-
03-08-2005, 03:44 AM
<DIV>That Tundran War Axe is master chest loot, you got hell of a deal on that little puppy, it would have to be by far the best one hander i seen, but missing a proc, but with a 1.6 delay and 55-164 dmg, who need's a proc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Taemek Frozenberg 42th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Blood and Ice<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</DIV>

Kannab
03-08-2005, 06:23 PM
<DIV>Cool! that is a gret one hander. any idea what instance does it drop the master chest? or is it just random?</DIV>

Sabin the Gre
03-08-2005, 09:31 PM
<DIV>I'll ask the guy and come back her to let you all know.  I see the mage I bought it from running around alot.</DIV>