Confirmed.. Tides of War (App1) = 48% haste

[snapgor]

<DIV>Running the following command and sroll to attack speed:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/show_window MainHUD.Character</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>FBSS = +15%</DIV> <DIV>Slayers Ring = +6.5%</DIV> <DIV>Tides of War (App1) = +48%</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All stack...  now someone with Tides of Warr (Adept3) tell me how much it adds!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[LauraG]

App4 is the same...so might not worth upgrade it.

[Thuyk]

<DIV>I have Adept 1 Tides of War, but the window only shows 46 haste for me.  I'm only level 41, however, and the skill is still orange to me.</DIV>

[NedDevi]

<DIV>At lvl 38:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>App IV gave me 44%</DIV> <DIV>Adept I gave me 45%</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[LauraG]

My bad, just checked it again, took all the other things with haste off just to make sure.At lv 50 ToW app4 is +49On a side note, the other speed buffs are :- Destructive Rage - adept 1 +10- Rage app4 +42 ( only lasts 10 secs but also adds +5 dps i belive )- im not in combat right now, but i belive zerk mode adds +40 or so too.

[-Aonein-]

<DIV>In each upgrade to the spell itself doesnt affect the Haste side of the skill much worth worrying about, but more so the offensive increase with in the skill, so a app 1 might add 6 to offense, while a adept 1 might add 9, something along those lines anyway.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Taemek Frozenberg 37th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Co-Leader of Justice Bringers<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[-Aonein-]

<DIV>Hmmm Slayer's ring is showing as 3% for me, not sure why you are getting 6.5%.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At lvl 37 this is what i get :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Skill's :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tide's of War      44%  ( app 4 )</DIV> <DIV>Screaming Fury  8%    ( app 4 )</DIV> <DIV>Rage                 42%  ( app 1 )</DIV> <DIV>Berserk             43%</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Item's :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ancient Slayer's Ring of Agility  3%</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'd like to note, that all of these will stack, Berserk mode from all your skill's is the same effect, 43% haste from all Berserk porbability type spell's and skill's, BUT, i noticed at around 95-99% haste, nothing really stacked much anymore, it would stack, but give me very very diminishing return's, for example, Tide's of War, Screaming Fury and Berserk gave me a total of 95% haste, now when i tryed to stack Rage, it only bumped upto 99%. When i used Tide's of War, Screaming Fury, Berserk and a second Berserk icon flashed at the same time, i would be at 99% also, so it looks like we are capped at 99% haste. This maybe a soft cap.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is where the fun begin's, now we need to run test's on Chanter haste stacked with these buff's, Troubador and Dirge also, cause i am willing to bet that 99% is a soft cap, and Troubador's / Dirge's and im not too sure, but MAYBE Chanters also can raise our soft cap to a hard cap. So for you old school EQ 1 lover's, yes, you know what i am refering too. :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Taemek Frozenberg 37th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Co-Leader of Justice Bringers<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <span class=date_text>02-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:29 AM</span>

[Heartsban]

<DIV>I have tried to get that command to work but it does not bring up the window that corresponds to my character.  It only brings up a lvl 25 character with some very different statistics.  I was going to post the results of having an adept 3 tides of war.</DIV>

[Eukat]

<DIV>You cannot be to smart, or like getting nerfed. Don't talk about this kind of thing in an open forum. I promise someone who isnt a berserker is thinking right now that its unfair that we get a haste buff like this and they do not. Squeaky wheels get grease, if you like the way something is, in this enviroment, its best to keep quite about it. Second don't post info on how to see hard numbers in a game where they try to hide hard numbers, unless you wish to loose the ability to do so.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Styk]

yes pls stop breaking Rule #1 <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />( if its an awesome zerker skill dont talk about it because will get clobbered with that nerf bat again ) Strykr Destructicus38 BerserkerAB Server

[-Aonein-]

<DIV>Its going to found in one way or another, doesnt matter if its a in game command or a third party program like a parser, ethier way, they will find out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Majority of the fight we are only 50% haste buffed, the rest is all up to the roll of the dice, if we get lucky, we geto Berserk, if we dont, oh well maybe next fight. It's all about probability.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>About other class's looking at this thread and saying " gee thats not fair ", they need to learn a bit more about the class itself before blurting that sentence, cause number's look cool, but they dont work the way it look's in theroy, and we also dont get these buff's till much much later in the game, you dont get Tide's of War till lvl 37, it's not like we get it from lvl 12, you gotta work for these skills that we are talking about here, we dont get them after a few hours of game play, and one last thing, sure they can have a haste buff like this, roll a Berserker and level to lvl 37, now they have there very own haste buff, that's the reason for class difference's, or i wouldnt play the game if we were all the same.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Taemek Frozenberg 37th Berserker<BR>16th Outfitter<BR>Co-Leader of Justice Bringers<BR>Everfrost Server<BR><BR>Enlightened Aonein Amillion ( retired )<BR>70th Stone Fist of The Celestial Fist<BR>Five Rings on Luclin Server</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </DIV><p>Message Edited by -Aonein- on <span class=date_text>02-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:40 PM</span>

[Feral R]

Wow, what a find. Did a little testing and here is what I got.FBSS 15%Monsoon 7%ToW (adepet3) 50%Dest Rage (adept 3) 10%At lvl 50, all stack!

[Styk]

So Monsoon's haste stacks with FBSS and Ring haste as well ? Hmmmm i guess that means that its prolly the best weapon for dps at lvl 50 then? Pls some parse with it vs EBBC and Heiro Crook would be nice

[LauraG]

I dont know about that.Lets see... 3+15+49+10+43=1203- ring15- belt49- ToW10- destructive rage43- zerk mode.Ok, adding to that the Rage skill, 43 or so thats a lot of speed even when you solo. Not to mention when in a group all clases have some sort of haste.My mystic has Avatar, that adds around 40 too. Personaly, after 100 i dont see any diference anymore, using a 2.3 claymore. I belive the speed is capped at 1 sec, so anything after that is useless. Thats why i will always go for the high delay, big damage weapons.

[Cheasl]

<DIV>Berserkers suck.... :smileywink:</DIV>