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AvengersE
01-23-2005, 04:41 AM
hey guys. anyways... i gota 23 ranger and a 14 warrior. dunno where to go with the warrior, thing about zerks cause they do more damage and i do solo alot and dont wanna take forever to take yellow ^^ down. so i was wondering how is the ability of zerks to do this, do you stay alive? how long does it take to take em down ? how long is the downtime between fights ? thanks in advance

Kaberu
01-23-2005, 06:24 AM
<DIV>I'm a bit confused about your message subject compared to what you ask. Your subject implies it's a question about soloing, but you want to take down double underconned yellows? I don't think you'll find any class that is really capable of that... it might be possible but the resources and/or downtime needed to do it wouldn't make it very economical. Berserkers do alot of damage indeed, but it is mostly notable when fighting a group of mobs. Downtime is usually based on what your character is capable of compared to how difficult the mob or mobs are to take down.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If none of that answers your questions, maybe you can clarify what you need to know a bit better.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Kogonei
01-23-2005, 09:36 PM
Answer is Agility.

Kromus_1
01-24-2005, 06:54 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kogonei17 wrote:<BR>Answer is Agility.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> No, the answer is Impossible...

commandob
01-24-2005, 01:49 PM
<DIV>no mater how much agilty you have you still wont beat a Yellow ++ mob i have a very high agilty and wouldnt think of tring it </DIV>

reakshav
01-25-2005, 01:16 AM
<DIV>^^ yellow your gonna die</DIV>

AvengersE
01-25-2005, 04:59 AM
ok sorry about that noobish question. lemme restate it.... can zerks solo efficantly for loot without alot of downtime ?hopefully this is answerable

Kaberu
01-25-2005, 09:27 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> AvengersEMH wrote:<BR>ok sorry about that noobish question. lemme restate it.... can zerks solo efficantly for loot without alot of downtime ?<BR>hopefully this is answerable<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Ah! Ok... well I'm a 36 zerker and I can still solo yellows fairly reliably (enough to make it worthwhile). Lately, that's how I've been making most of my money :smileyhappy:</DIV>

Aburai
01-25-2005, 09:32 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kaberu wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> AvengersEMH wrote:<BR>ok sorry about that noobish question. lemme restate it.... can zerks solo efficantly for loot without alot of downtime ?<BR>hopefully this is answerable<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Ah! Ok... well I'm a 36 zerker and I can still solo yellows fairly reliably (enough to make it worthwhile). Lately, that's how I've been making most of my money :smileyhappy:</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Aye, but I think he's asking if we can solo yellow^^ con mobs.  Personally I'd think that'd pretty much be instant death for myself and just about eveybody else who tried.  Yellow Solo Mobs on the other hand is most definitely doable, even orange and red though there's more downtime involved and risk of course.</P> <P>If you are happy with the loot you can get from those Solo encounters then aye, we can solo pretty well if you pick your fights well.</P>

Kaberu
01-25-2005, 12:43 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Onichi wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kaberu wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> AvengersEMH wrote:<BR>ok sorry about that noobish question. lemme restate it.... can zerks solo efficantly for loot without alot of downtime ?<BR>hopefully this is answerable<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Ah! Ok... well I'm a 36 zerker and I can still solo yellows fairly reliably (enough to make it worthwhile). Lately, that's how I've been making most of my money :smileyhappy:</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Aye, but I think he's asking if we can solo yellow^^ con mobs.  Personally I'd think that'd pretty much be instant death for myself and just about eveybody else who tried.  Yellow Solo Mobs on the other hand is most definitely doable, even orange and red though there's more downtime involved and risk of course.</P> <P>If you are happy with the loot you can get from those Solo encounters then aye, we can solo pretty well if you pick your fights well.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>In that particular case I meant just a regular solo yellow. AT first he said yellow ^^ but then backtracked and asked how well we solo... it's just a coincidence that we both said "yellow"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Jher
01-25-2005, 04:35 PM
<blockquote><hr>AvengersEMH wrote:ok sorry about that noobish question. lemme restate it.... can zerks solo efficantly for loot without alot of downtime ?hopefully this is answerable<hr></blockquote> Yep, green/blue/white/yellow 'solo' tagged mobs are easily soloable, with higher doable though the risk and downtime increases exponentially. Some green ^^ or ^ or normal groups can be done solo , though you'll be looking at heavy downtime, and you need to use a little trial and error - some green groups are much easier than they appear, whilst others will chew you up and spit you out as soon as look at you. Edit: And of course, for soloing - Good food and drink are your best friends. Make sure you have high/superior quality, level appropriate stuff.<p>Message Edited by Jherad on <span class=date_text>01-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:38 AM</span>

Articulas
01-25-2005, 07:47 PM
<DIV>okay i have a question to add to this discussion <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> . (dont' worry avengers i'm not highjacking but i'm hoping the question helps you as well as me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When soloing should a zerker use a sheild and one handed weapon or use a two handed weapon that we get for class quest?</DIV>

Jher
01-25-2005, 10:58 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Articulas wrote:<BR> <DIV>okay i have a question to add to this discussion <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> . (dont' worry avengers i'm not highjacking but i'm hoping the question helps you as well as me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When soloing should a zerker use a sheild and one handed weapon or use a two handed weapon that we get for class quest?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV> </DIV> <P>Personally, I go with my 2H weapon (or dual wields) when soloing - this is one time when killing something a little quicker means you take a LOT less damage in total.</P> <P> </P>

Micbat
01-26-2005, 10:38 PM
My AC isn't where it should be so I run with shield when soloing:*******************************No Up arrow mob I can solo:*******************************GreyGreenBlueW hiteYellowOJ <- Starts to get dangerous***************************************** *************Single Up arrow mob, hard to find this mob by himself:****************************************** ************GreyGreenBlue************************* *****Double Ups I can solo******************************GreyGreen <- Maybe

Diabol
01-26-2005, 11:56 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jherad wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Articulas wrote:<BR> <DIV>okay i have a question to add to this discussion <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> . (dont' worry avengers i'm not highjacking but i'm hoping the question helps you as well as me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When soloing should a zerker use a sheild and one handed weapon or use a two handed weapon that we get for class quest?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV> </DIV> <P>Personally, I go with my 2H weapon (or dual wields) when soloing - this is one time when killing something a little quicker means you take a LOT less damage in total.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>If your going for the green ++ mobs a shield makes it a little easier, helps you bear out the damage until they run out of power so you finish with a little more health... it will still take about the same time and power since you generally need to style the whole time on them anyway and style damage is nearly the same regardless of weapon type as long as they are equal level.</P> <P><BR> </P>

Jher
01-27-2005, 04:43 PM
<blockquote><hr>Diaboliq wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Jherad wrote:<BR><BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Articulas wrote:<BR><DIV>okay i have a question to add to this discussion <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> . (dont' worry avengers i'm not highjacking but i'm hoping the question helps you as well as me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>When soloing should a zerker use a sheild and one handed weapon or use a two handed weapon that we get for class quest?</DIV><BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><DIV> </DIV><P>Personally, I go with my 2H weapon (or dual wields) when soloing - this is one time when killing something a little quicker means you take a LOT less damage in total.</P><P> </P><BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>If your going for the green ++ mobs a shield makes it a little easier, helps you bear out the damage until they run out of power so you finish with a little more health... it will still take about the same time and power since you generally need to style the whole time on them anyway and style damage is nearly the same regardless of weapon type as long as they are equal level.</P><P><BR> </P><hr></blockquote>Yep, this tactic works just as well, though can take a little longer I find... If going with 1H + Shield against a green double up, then I find that using a power dot every time it refreshes (eg. Furious Rush) until the mob is out of power helps tremendously in the war of attrition and improves survivability.

Articulas
01-27-2005, 07:25 PM
<DIV>sweet!  thanks alot guys! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

Krullg
01-27-2005, 09:14 PM
<blockquote><hr>Micbator wrote:My AC isn't where it should be so I run with shield when soloing:*******************************No Up arrow mob I can solo:*******************************GreyGreenBlueW hiteYellowOJ <- Starts to get dangerous***************************************** *************Single Up arrow mob, hard to find this mob by himself:****************************************** ************GreyGreenBlue************************* *****Double Ups I can solo******************************GreyGreen <- Maybe<hr></blockquote>I agree with this guy and my AC is about 1600 at level 26.I can take ^^ greens but ^^ blues no way... ^^ yellow is funny lol