Ok, then what is a beserker without a high dps output?

[tarasl]

<DIV>If you aholes that think everyone should do more damage than a zerker, what is a bezerker then? What it is now is a low grade guardian that takes more damage with the same dps. If that's what you want from SOE's fix, congrats! You got it. We have no extra perks other than catching one hand on fire, and due to lazy [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] modelling, get shaman bear form. A hand full of group buffs that can be replaced by a higher dps class. Zerks have no feign death, no healing, no pet, one borrowed animal form we get 10 levels before we hit the cap, and the only thing SOE could do was to fix one skill that made us beserk constantly, but ignored skills that didn't work period.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Call me a whiner but [Removed for Content] on their reinvention of the beserker into a low grade, whole unbalanced tank class.</DIV>

[kakar]

<DIV>haha at least you dont get skin like poop or skin like grey poop rofl</DIV>

[Khal]

<DIV>offensive tank, not a damage dealing specialist</DIV>

[Armeng]

and shadowknights of eq1 were supposed to be the dps tank, many proved them wrong. Monks and zerkers should have more dps than guardians and the crusader types to a lesser extent the sk's they have ward. imo monk types sould be higher than zerkers b/c they get to wear plate(vanguard appears on them for some reason although its not in their description i read)

[Lut]

The class is described everywhere as a damage dealing class. But it looks like they wont be for much longer. We are being fixed to be what the general population want us to be, and in the main, those arnt Berserkers. Too many have caved in, believed what guardians, and thier ilk told them. The fact that the fixes applied are so drastic shows that the initial design for Berserkers was exactly as spelled out.Its a bit of a shame, but i think at this point, any further argument is pointless. When the high end players damage is bought in line with the new definition, then we will finally be, the class without distinction or place.

[Reol]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Khalad wrote:<BR> <DIV>offensive tank, not a damage dealing specialist</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Smart one define Offensive....because SOE has defined offense as dps.....waiting smart guy.

[Geothe]

<DIV>"Fighter" DPS should go:<BR><BR>Monk/Bruiser > Beserker > Pally/SK > Guardian</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Beserker should NOT be the top DPS due to the fact that they wear heavy armors.  Frankly, not sure why Sony decided to name the class beserkers at all.. because tradiionally beserkers are light tanks with low defense and high damage.  but in EQ2 Sony gave them the heaviest armor availiable...  and as a result lowered damage output, which goes against what a beserker really is.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>LIkewise, defensive power for fighters should go:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Guardian > Pally/SK (since they get heal/wards) > beserker > Bruiser/monk.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>