Traditional Berzerker Petition

[Krullg]

I am from the school of thought that says a Berserker should: 1. Wear medium armor 2. Outdamage all melee in the game cept assassins 3. NOT TANKIf you agree please sign this to let these devs know how a zerker "should" be in a MMORPG.

[Reol]

<DIV>IF we were to get comparible dps to a bruiser/monk....but can only wear chain armor...would that work? That should perserve the dps we like....give us some tanking ability...not tons...but still respectable...and we don't take away dps and avoidance from monks/bruiser...and the guardians can be the main tanks, along with the paladins, sks...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Because if you think about it...a bruiser can main tank too...but hes not about absorbing big damage..hes about dodging and blocking the damage, so we could get like a 25% (<FONT color=#ffff00>numbers are just for discussion purposes</FONT>) avoidance reduction from a bruiser.....and get 25% less damage mitigation than a guardian....but give us comparible damage to a bruiser or higher, since were sacrificing damage mitigation and avoidance...we will not be a choice tank in most situations.  Otherwise reclass us as a Scout class...give us some kewl predator skills like speed...and knock us down to a scout type class..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In anycase I am all for changing the class from a Main tank class, Guardians would get the honor of tanking the boss mobs, raid mobs etc..but I don't mind seeing us go to more of a DPS class instead of a Tank.</DIV>

[Belethr]

<DIV>I agree save that I think even Assassins should fall behind Berserkers. Not in initial surprise damage, but after that Berserkers should surpass them. Assassins get all the Scout utilities, track etc. Berserkers should get none of those. Seriously do you picture some half crazed blood lusting manic sneaking up on people? </DIV>

[PerinSto]

<DIV>I'm sure SOE will take this into account for the NEXT mmorpg they design.... Can you honestly think they will or should change a class that much.  I can just see the uproar by not allowing Berserkers to wear plate armor anymore.  'I spent 95 gold on all my uber plate and now I can't wear it and you won't let me change to a new class!'  You knew you were picking a tank when you selected fighter.  You knew you were picking a tank when you selected warrior.  Now you don't want to be a tank cause you selected Berserker?  Give me a break.  It may not fit your view of what a "real" berserker should be but get over it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then again, I don't think assassins would ever have a long drawn out fight.   Assassins kill quickly so I'm forming a petition to let Assassins kill with one shot!  I DEMAND THAT SOE FIXES MY BELOVED ASSASSIN!!!!</DIV>

[Nuvi]

<DIV>hmmm basicly u want a scout with the class name berserker,i like it the way it is <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Raidyen]

<DIV>Hmm, Medium armor, DPS just below and Assasin, and Not Tank, yeah, thats called a Swashbuckler.  If you dont want to tank, dont play a fighter type.  Nothing keeping you from wearing medium armor as a beserker either, knock yourself out, literally.</DIV>

[Reol]

<DIV>I like tanking...but thte way soe is going were going to be a sad joke that is barely worth, bothering with...and you people want to tank..what..you think your going to get main tanking jobs now over a guardian...you must be delusional.....atleast I am simply trying to point out some things, soe is changing our class...to make the guardians happy...they whined and soe is listening so i rather them make me good even if its a job change....and if they were to move us to medium armor...I say soe should be RESPONSIBLE for replacing our armor with equivilant armor</DIV>

[Krullg]

ok bad petition I take it lol - All I'm saying is that in the dozen or so other MMORPG's I have played MY zerker was Highest DPS, medium armor and I didn't ever tank. In fact normally in other games zerkers have aggro "push" skills not aggro "pull" skills. Its my bad though I should have researched this Eq2 Zerker model before picking it... I just assumed a zerker is a zerker and chose it to deal massive crazy insane damage and pushing aggro off my so a MT could keep it since I would be wearing medium armor.Eq2's model of a zerker is 180 deg off of what other games define a zerker as. Eq2: ok DPS Heavy ArmorMT 100% of the time Anything else I have played:Superior DPSMedium ArmorMT 0% of the time

[Sinkat]

<BR> <DIV>I think Berzerkers are not a MT, and when you chose fighter, warrior then berzerker was to start as a fighter then warrior and then go into a more offensive type of fighter than defensive like a Guardian.</DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> PerinStone wrote:<BR> <DIV>I'm sure SOE will take this into account for the NEXT mmorpg they design.... Can you honestly think they will or should change a class that much.  I can just see the uproar by not allowing Berserkers to wear plate armor anymore.  'I spent 95 gold on all my uber plate and now I can't wear it and you won't let me change to a new class!'  You knew you were picking a tank when you selected fighter.  You knew you were picking a tank when you selected warrior.  Now you don't want to be a tank cause you selected Berserker?  Give me a break.  It may not fit your view of what a "real" berserker should be but get over it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Then again, I don't think assassins would ever have a long drawn out fight.   Assassins kill quickly so I'm forming a petition to let Assassins kill with one shot!  I DEMAND THAT SOE FIXES MY BELOVED ASSASSIN!!!!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>If we started as a fighter maybe we knew that we were going to tank, warrior also, but then berzerker is not a completlely MT, thats why there are different sub-classes from a class. A warrior was Guardian and Berzerker, this way you can change a bit your paths giving you different skills, if both would be MT then what is the big difference about them.</DIV> <DIV>Maybe berzerkers dont outdamage an assassin but they sure have more defense, its a different balance between both, but if a berzerker outamages an assassin is not a fact, it also depends alot on you way of playing, lvl, equipment and other stuff. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think berzerkers are fighters that are offensive types and also can do as a MT, not as good as a Guardian but a Guardian also can do DPS but not so much as a Berzerkers, there are different aspects of each class that make them diferent. </DIV> <DIV>If you want to be a MT maybe its not the best idea to be a Berzerker, maybe a Secondary Tank.. </DIV> <DIV>Sorry for the mixed up idea <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> its kind of hard for me to express myself in english. And I was just giving some ideas, not fighting about it so dont get mad oki? Hope you could at least understand part of it hehe.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good Luck!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT>

[Camthalion]

<DIV>I had the understanding that zerkers were supposed to do more damage than the other fighter subclasses and have less armor.  Its not that way anymore, IMO.  I play my 26 level zerker with a 25 paladin, and while we do ok, when I get aggro, I take ALOT more damage than he does, but dont seem to do more damage, even though Im dual wielding some really good weapons.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In my opinion, the zerkers should get a little nerf on the armor, and a boost on the dps.  Berserkers should be a secondary tank, that when put into main tank roles, should make the healers work hard, but do some very good damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just my 2cents.</DIV>