Enjoy your Zerker

[Davish_Darkwolf]

<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This Berserker forums are getting more depressing than the actual nerf.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rarely i see posts regarding useful information about our class this days. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I too hated the nerf, the lack of info and respect to people behind our class, but [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]ing too much around</DIV> <DIV>the same matter wont solve anything. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im still enjoying my class, if i had to start all over again this would be the class i would pick without a second</DIV> <DIV>thought.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No regrets, having fun and yes, we still rock.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And no, i didnt think the nerf was fair or balanced at all, but im still here and they wont take me down so easily.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Adopt, adapt and improve (something like that)......   i know im trying  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Sinkat]

<DIV>It is nice to read positive things about people that have a Berzerker. Your right its getting kind of depressing all the posts about the nerf .. hope everybody would think like you.</DIV> <DIV>I still dont owe one so I hope that the nerf doesnt affect me when I start <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good Luck!</DIV>

[tarasl]

<DIV>Well back when we got hit with the first nerf, on thanksgiving day no less, I should have expected it more of the same. But we have now been nerfed out of any non tanking role in a group to the point is near uselessness. Only really needed to fill a spot if noone else is around. Have fun with that.</DIV>

[Davish_Darkwolf]

<DIV>Out of tanking?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>LOL</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[asteldian]

<DIV>No, he said out of any non tanking role-so if not MT we really just take up space and little more, this is where i am most disapointed, i enjoy playing secondary tank, makes a refreshing break from being the one leading and looking after everyone, but i offer little to the role now-yes i offered too much pre nerf, but i feel they took abit too much away</DIV>

[tfbo]

<DIV>Ummm... Last time I checked, I'm still a pretty darn good tank. Try using a shield/1h combo and throwing up a Havok and notice how much less damage you take. I tanked a red^^ mob last night in RE with only a warden as a healer in our group and we did just fine. Yes, we're doing less damage than before, but I'm still a very decent damage dealer. I do, however, agree that we should be doing a bit more. Our time for good things will come. Embrace your inner Berserker, go forth into the world, and prove to everyone that we are, in fact, better than Guardians.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matador</DIV> <DIV>33 Barbarian Berserker of Mistmoore</DIV> <DIV>Slege</DIV>

[asteldian]

<DIV>He didnt say he cant tank, he said we have been nerfed from any NON tanking role-as in we are no real use if not tanking</DIV>

[SennSei]

Well you're right, but isn't that what we are? We're tanks. Like guardians.That's all I have to say, besides the fact I'm really ticked about the nerf. SoE, pretty pathetic Beta testing if you ask me (which you didn't).I like to call this game BetaQuest 2.<p>Message Edited by SennSei on <span class=date_text>01-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:59 PM</span>

[Sinkat]

<DIV>So now you transformed the only thread that people talk good about there berzerkers in another thread were you are complaining about it, so if people hate so much the nerf and say they are useless then just make yourself a Guardian and be happy, I dont want to be mean, but just try at least not to look at things so bad..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good Luck!</DIV>

[asteldian]

<DIV>Actually there are a few non ranting threads around.  And you can hardly complain about someone mentioning a legit problem, not like anyone has started another 'woe is me' post in the thread, we arent much use as secondary tank, its an issue, not a huge one, not game breaking and certainly not one that makes me reroll, but doesnt mean it should be swept under the carpet</DIV>

[Davish_Darkwolf]

<DIV>Then whats the use of a Guardian when he is not tanking?  A bit similar to the use of a Berserker when he is not tanking.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The only differences are that the Guardian is giving defense buffs to the party and maybe throwing in a protect on a party member, the Berserker is giving offense buffs to the party and delivering a bit more damage than the Guardian.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2 tanks with different roles when not tanking.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I agree we could use more DPS, as i said before i hated what they did with the stealth-nerf, but we still rock (and could</DIV> <DIV>rock even better if they just fixed  our broken skills).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Some people tend however to confuse our DPS to DPS classes. We are not a DPS class in EQ2, we are a offensive tank.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>One major problem in EQ2 is that surprisingly, they changed the old Berserker concept. Usually the Berserker class</DIV> <DIV>CANT wear Heavy Armor at all and is more DPS class oriented (like a bruiser but using swords/axes, etc.).  But in this</DIV> <DIV>game we get to see a class called "Berserker" wearing Heavy Armor and doing the role of a heavy tank (although more</DIV> <DIV>offensive oriented).  To see a Berserker wearing a shield in many other mmorpgs is kinda strange, to see one Berserker</DIV> <DIV>as Main Tank in this game wearing a big shield is considered normal.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This whole phantasy world that developed over the years went towards some strange directions. In many rpg/mmorpgs</DIV> <DIV>out there, the Berserker usually is using (or only can use) Axes or Hammers  and  rarely uses (or can use) a shield.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Where does it say that Berserkers didnt use shields? Or that they only fought naked? History reminds us of the famous</DIV> <DIV>viking Berserkers that bite their shields before the battle and went into a frenzy so uncontrolable that they even killed</DIV> <DIV>their own sometimes. But at the same time the Valorian guard of the Bizantine king, was composed of Elite Berserker</DIV> <DIV>fighters, well organized and deadly in battle.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So what are Berserkers in real life? Extraordinary warriors for sure, in that no one can doubt and at least in that</DIV> <DIV>theres some agreement.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Remember when in EQ1 your Warrior went on a "Berserker Rampage"  when 3/4 of his life was out?  </DIV> <DIV>I think they picked up the warrior, that berserker rampage concept and developed from there.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[asteldian]

<DIV>The guardian has very useful defensive buffs when not tanking which can be used to make themain tank even more effective by considerable amounts</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Before anyone suggests it im not saying we should be scout DPS when not tanking, its just it would be kinda nice if we could actually berserk when not tanking</DIV><p>Message Edited by asteldian on <span class=date_text>01-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:30 PM</span>

[Aburai]

<DIV>I agree on the point of trying to "Enjoy what you got" but myself personally am going to take a short break from Berserking, just for a little while until the dust settles I think.  It's going to be interesting to see what SOE envision us to be.  I don't know if I'll like it as much but it'll be interesting none the less.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I also don't think we should be outshining the DPS classes in damage output and I knew a change to our Berserk state via whatever skill was coming.  That said, I didn't expect it be so great a change and such a vast difference in Damage output.   It was quite a shock to the system to say the least :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So for now, I've started an alt fighter to play with and try a different flavour of tanking.  I'll still keep myself up to date with how things are going and still keep my toon in reserve.  Who knows whats going to happen heh!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>For the most part the people on this particular board are helpful and cheerful, I think a lot of us are feeling the pinch with the current change are just a bit irritable at the moment.  It'll pass in time once people settle for one thing or another but at the moment we are in the midst of the storm.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/salute</DIV>

[Feral R]

I dont know about all of the whiners out there, but I still kick butt. Always have, always will, regardless of these past "balancings". I play the role of a perfect 2nd tank. There is so many Guardians, this is really easy. We can still get agro like no other class, and if you dont believe me and have relied on Blood Lust your entire career to get and keep agro, then that is just your loss. There are ways, try new things, get it done.I love being a zerker, wouldnt want to play anything else. Too many whiners and "ship jumpers" wanting to be the most dps, the best tank, ect. Just enjoy it! And btw, im a Ratonga, the only fighter Rat ive ever seen. Too many people trying to make "the most min/max" and forget that this is a game, and to have FUN!