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AslaanH
01-08-2005, 05:04 PM
<DIV>Greetings my fellow zerkers, I knew the nerf was coming, but [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] was I not prepared for hard it hit. I broke out my log parser today. I parsed 7 hours of data, grinding Minos, Lizards and Icegills in Everfrost. I also would like to add I statics with the same healer and ranger nightly. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My DPS is coming out far lower then it was pre patch when I was a level lower. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I had an assassin and ranger with me and I lost aggro constantly. I used our outdated taunts all adept 3, I use buffs during combat and went DPS mode and still, still aggro was lost all the time. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Berserk mode is now much more a rarity, many of our skills that are meant to proc berserk hardly every do so. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Overall speed of combat is alot less thus the DPS hit, thus a major hit to our ability to tank. We balance a guardians higher mitigation with improved kill speed. Our kill speed is far less now thus on mobs i did pre patch with no problems, were posing a problem. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I do agree the heavy aggro from berserk needed to be toned down, however they should have added to us a 30ish lvl tant to help maintain aggro. This did not happen and thus aggro is a huge issue right now. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Why we took such a massive DPS hit I will not know. Were not much more then guards now but are inferior to them still in tanking and aggro. A monk will now pull 40ish DPS more then and they got buffed in the patch. We actually let the monk tank for a while since he could hld aggro better and really for xp mobs he tanks just fine. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hate to admit but they [Removed for Content] us in this patch and the hotfix hasnt done crap to help us. They need to do alot more testing before they pull something like this. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>SOE please, restore us to the old way and we just dun do DPS as offtank (which is never cept on raids lol) or add another higher lvl taunt skill to balance us out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Restore our DPS this is how we balance for inferior mitigation. HP boosts and defensive buffs. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To all low lvl zerks doubting the class, your right to doubt it. If were not fixed, we are the most inferior tank class in game. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Guardians are godly MTs</DIV> <DIV>Paladins tank well and offer tons of utility</DIV> <DIV>Monks tank ok, do highest sustained DPS in game and have versatility. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We are now a very very weak guardian....I loved the class for 43 levels <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

Vanes
01-08-2005, 05:11 PM
<DIV>Thank you!   Thank you for being someone at high level that isn't calling all the rest of us skilless and unable to adapt and single ability button pushers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The last two days have been awful not only for the depressing nerf, then the hope that the hotfix would make us viable, and then to be depressed again, but it's also been depressing to have what seems like almost every high end Zerker come here and say we all suck and everything is perfect.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thank you.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Vanessa</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Bad news brown
01-08-2005, 07:17 PM
<DIV>Aye we r not OK. I believe most of us zerkers play em because of wanting to be a tanker of dps else will be choosing the guard.</DIV>

DantonMithani
01-08-2005, 08:20 PM
<DIV>I've got to agree here.. the Berserkers role in this game is not existant anymore after the latest patch..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>it's sad, really.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I won't reroll, I'll wait for my current subscription period to run out and then decide if I quit or not.. depending on how fast SOE does something to fix the current issues. However I won't be playing an useless class and I won't reroll another char as I simply do not have the time for such kind of activities.. I have a life besides EQ2 and that life takes up soem of my time as well lol</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However, I expected a bad nerf coming our way, but this, once again, is a typical SOE-nerf.. it makes the class obsolete, and that I do not think should be toelrated by us players.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'd suggest everyone to rate the above post.. rate it with 5, maybe someone recognizes it, who knows..</DIV>

Davish_Darkwolf
01-08-2005, 08:25 PM
<DIV>I always played the standard Warrior class, in EQ, AC1, AC2, SB, DAOC, HZ... now i wanted to try something a bit different,</DIV> <DIV>so even before release ive chosen the Berserker class.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With a Warrior base, at level 20 i finally hit my Zerker status. The next levels were pretty much the same, but when i got</DIV> <DIV>Bloodlust i could really feel like a Berzerker, it was my best skill and did wonders in fights.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The only problem with Bloodlust was the huge hate i generated. That could easily be fixed, but no..... they simply broke down</DIV> <DIV>the skill to almost useless.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If im soloing or am the Main Tank, i seldom see my Zerker status blinking now. If i am grouped but am not the Main Tank, then</DIV> <DIV>i VERY RARELY or NEVER see my Zerker proc blinking.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bloodlust description states clearly that i have a chance to get a Zerker proc if ANY MEMBER of my party is hit. That isnt the</DIV> <DIV>case now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If its already bad while soloing or MT, then its even worse when im not MT.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I see people talking about Zerkers like god-like creatures who did huge amounts of damage, even near Wizards and so on.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have never seen a Zerker soloing better than any Guardian or killing other mobs that Guardians didnt. So where is that</DIV> <DIV>God-like feature anyway?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I respect Guardians, always did and always will, they are the best tanks in game hands-down, but it seems to me that many </DIV> <DIV>Guardians dont like their class, cause although they are the best tanks, the ones that have the best defence and can </DIV> <DIV>sustain more damage, they still are jealous of Berserkers. Dont they know what a pure tank is? How come they can be</DIV> <DIV>jealous of a more agressive, less defensive class? Maybe they want the best of both worlds?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We Zerkers didnt even want that, we just wanted to deal consistent amounts of damage while in Zerker mode - not more than</DIV> <DIV>monks or wizards and not better at tanking as Guardians or even Pallies.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I never complained about assassins or monks damage, i never complaint about Guardians superior tanking abilities, so </DIV> <DIV>why are Zerkers being so damaged now?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If Zerkers were FOTM or God-Like creatures, i bet they would outnumber by far the Guardian numbers, that is not the case</DIV> <DIV>in my server.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To play a Zerker required strategy, now my strategy is almost pre-level 20 where i dont feel like a Zerker at all since not</DIV> <DIV>only Bloodlust is broken but also other skills like Raging Strike that very rarely proc Zerker mode.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If SOE cant handle a Berserker class, then dont even try to include it in your class ranks, cause the way things are </DIV> <DIV>going, you cant handle the class at all.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Haf
01-08-2005, 11:26 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If Zerkers were FOTM or God-Like creatures, i bet they would outnumber by far the Guardian numbers, that is not the case</DIV> <DIV>in my server.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I'm a level 31st defiler on Kithicor.  I have group with two guardians in all those levels.  The number of Zerks I can't count cause there were so many.   </P> <P>Now I'm not saying that you guys didn't get the shaft, I'm saying that you sure were one rocking class and many people play/played it.  <BR></P> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by Hafta on <span class=date_text>01-08-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:27 AM</span>