Whats up with the Zerker Damage???????

[Triniga]

<DIV>I feel like I'm doing crap for damage.  I'm level 20 and it seems like everyone I group with can do more damage with HO's etc.  I got top gear for my level but the only thing im missing is like adept2 and 3 upgrades.  I cant seem to find any for sale etc.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Do you other Zerkers feel damage is pretty low??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[OverlordM]

<DIV>Well if you arent using app2 , 3 pr adept um yeah..couple that with a non OJ weapon and low stat bonus' and you are doing pretty much your minimum damage possible....and i fyou are using that quest axe, I suggest you get the 18 silver from selling it and add some dough to it and buy yourself some nice dual weild weapons.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>seriously..if you want to achieve you max potential you have to be trying.....if you dont have app2 or 3s you just arent trying</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Zerk does good damage, but its not going to be outdamage dps claasses.</DIV><p>Message Edited by OverlordMLF on <span class=date_text>11-24-2004</span> <span class=time_text>07:56 AM</span>

[Rit]

Hell...No....Im so in love with my damage right now, i even stopped leveling my scout for the moment. Theres nothing like having the mages in the group going 'wow' when Crazed Swing goes off 4 times in a row, annihilating everything around you. Are you using a 2hander or Dual Wielding or what? Do you have Focus Rage upgraded to app2+? (app1 doesnt seem to work right).

[Dashel]

I think he's claiming he has Adept 1's just not Adept 2 or 3. This sounds like a huge troll post to me. If it's not, you're simply making bad comparisons or not playing correctly.You're not gonna out damage a wizard or scout class your level. You're not gonna out damage anyone if you don't use your skills properly. I'm 22 with no damage skill Adept 1's and I do just fine.

[Rit]

<blockquote><hr>OverlordMLF wrote:Zerk does good damage, but its not going to be outdamage dps claasses.</DIV><p>Message Edited by OverlordMLF on <span class=date_text>11-24-2004</span> <span class=time_text>07:56 AM</span><hr></blockquote>The only time I'm NOT outdamaging everyone in the group is when zerk mode and blood rage are not on. Then Im just doing 'good' damage. I do even more damage when tanking, with Fury on because of the riposte rate.

[OverlordM]

<DIV>Well I do pretty good damge as well, but I am definetly outdamaging  wiz's-monks-rogues <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> at least when I go Dual wield...and for sure when 1h shield tnaking.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I read the original post worng where he says hes using Adept 1s ....misread to think he said app 1s... my bad. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In any case most of the Adept 1s are easy to get and buying app 3s for all non OJ skills is pretty easy since peopel are skilling on them right now.</DIV><p>Message Edited by OverlordMLF on <span class=date_text>11-24-2004</span> <span class=time_text>08:10 AM</span>

[Triniga]

<DIV>I'm using a 2 hander the axe you get from the quest at 20.  I have full vanguard on.  I've been looking for adept2 stuff and cant seem to find anything.  I've went to the broker and nada, I've /ooc in Antonica nada, I grouped and got several drops but nothing I've ever needed besides Anger Adept 1.  I still need some Adept 1 items at 20.  I think my Mangle is Apprentice2 atm gah!  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I know how to play my class and play it very well.  I just cant seem to get the upgrades on my skills.  I look every night and /ooc in zones that I'm in and get nada.  I got lucky last night and got Hunker Down Adept1 in NQ when someone /ooc'd it for sale.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I play on Kithicor...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think the problem is I cant find the upgraded skills I need to be at peek performance at my level... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Do you guys see a big difference from Adept1 to Adept2 etc?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[OverlordM]

<DIV>If you have adept 1 and app3 s at 20..hell 25 you are where you should be....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I doubt anyone has many if ANY adept 2/3's.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>only thing I have seen drop cept adept 1s are master 1s and they sell for 5g + .....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>your problem is with the 2h quest axe.  Ditch it and go dual wield if youa re trying for damage....IMO.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by OverlordMLF on <span class=date_text>11-24-2004</span> <span class=time_text>09:28 AM</span>

[Bayl]

Oh wow! I made level 20 last night and up until now I had never tried dual weapons. Based on what everyone here has been saying I thought I would try them.I piked up two weapons and also have a shield/sword combo for tanking. Roaming around Antonica I found some big bears. For the first one I switched to dual wield weapons and tore the bear apart in no time flat. Switched to shield/sword combo and it seemed to take much longer.I am sold on everyone's recommendation to use dual-wields. Only when I am the only tank will I go back to shield/sword.Thanks guys!Now I just gotta upgrade my new skills to at least app 3.

[OverlordM]

<DIV>TAken from our very own FAQ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <OL> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ffff00>Apprentice I </FONT><FONT color=#ffff00>= level-1</FONT> - Granted automatically, except for the "fun" spells with purely cosmetic effects.</FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ffff00>Apprentice II </FONT><FONT color=#ffff00>= level<FONT color=#cccccc> -</FONT> </FONT></FONT><FONT color=#cccccc>Purchased from "Trainer" NPC's</FONT></SPAN></SPAN> <LI><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ffff00>Apprentice III </FONT><FONT color=#ffff00>= level+1 </FONT>- Crafted from common harvests.</FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ffff00>Apprentice IV</FONT> <FONT color=#ffff00>= level+2 </FONT>- Not yet in game.</FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ffcc00>Adept I = level+3</FONT> - Uncommon drop.</FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ffcc00>Adept II = level+4 </FONT>- Not yet in game.  </FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ffcc00>Adept III = level+5 </FONT>- Crafted from rare harvests, recipes are in rare drop books.</FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ffcc00>Adept IV = level+6</FONT> - Not yet in game. </FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ff9900>Master I = level+7</FONT> - Rare drop or character advancement choice.</FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ff9900>Master II = level+8  </FONT>- Not yet in game.  </FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ff9900>Master III = level+9 </FONT><FONT color=#cccccc>- </FONT>Crafted from very rare drops, recipes are in rare dropped books.</FONT></SPAN> <LI><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc><FONT color=#ff9900>Master IV = level+10</FONT><FONT color=#cccccc> -</FONT> Ultra-rare drop or awarded by GM. </FONT></SPAN></LI></OL> <P><SPAN><FONT color=#cccccc>Be happy, very happy with Adept 1 and app3 ATM <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></SPAN></P>

[Chinadude3]

<DIV>Which dual wield weapons did you get? I can't seem to find any good ones.</DIV>

[God_of_Avalon]

<DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by God_of_Avalon on <span class=date_text>12-06-2004</span> <span class=time_text>09:28 PM</span>

[Braxt]

I aswell could use some advice on what people 20-25ish are using for dual weapons, I need to get something better than the 2h I have but not sure what would be the best. TIA Lorand

[LumpyD]

<DIV>I am 23, on my way to 24 right now.. and honestly.. I am doing GREAT with a 2h steel lance.. I mean... even  better than with the very decent (not store bought) duals I have... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Maybe it's a combo of having Fury up blus going berzerk (lowering my combat speed) but I am chewing stuff up, much better than using duals... odd I know.. </DIV>

[Khal]

<DIV>At level 20 you are barely a berserker, and it felt pretty much like a warrior still.  Get a few levels and get Blood Rage, Blood Lust and Fury, it will be much differant feel.</DIV>

[Wolfherz]

<DIV>As for weapons ... try finding a weaponsmith artisan (20+ preferably 24+). They can craft some really nice weapons if you didn't find a good drop yet. </DIV>

[Kromus_1]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Khalad wrote:<BR> <DIV>At level 20 you are barely a berserker, and it felt pretty much like a warrior still.  Get a few levels and get Blood Rage, Blood Lust and Fury, it will be much differant feel.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Exactly... had lvl 33 zerker in beta and loved it... Used about 3-4 berserk (fury rage) dependable skills (not counting here old "warrior" line skills like kick or stomp) and did pretty decent dmg plus nice combat moves = was really fun to play

[commandob]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kromus_1 wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Khalad wrote:<BR> <DIV>At level 20 you are barely a berserker, and it felt pretty much like a warrior still.  Get a few levels and get Blood Rage, Blood Lust and Fury, it will be much differant feel.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Exactly... had lvl 33 zerker in beta and loved it... Used about 3-4 berserk (fury rage) dependable skills (not counting here old "warrior" line skills like kick or stomp) and did pretty decent dmg plus nice combat moves = was really fun to play<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>that it , im going zerker i was a Guardian in Beta , but felt i should of gone zerker , now i am as the class just looks sweet really , and it suits my image as a dwarf zerker , but you all reckon Dual weild as zerker , i used duel weild till level 20 in beta then sword & shield as was guardian <BR>

[Nuvi]

<DIV>"Are you using a 2hander or Dual Wielding or what? Do you have Focus Rage upgraded to app2+? (app1 doesnt seem to work right)." t</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thats the first time ive heard that,is it really bugged?ive been going crazy trying to find blood rage adept 1,so not ur saying it useless?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[dragu]

<DIV>Bloodrage is only useful when u fight a lot of opponent, bloodrage makes you do aoe all the times, no effect on single target.</DIV> <DIV>I don't have anything complain about my dmg, I do as much dmg as using my special with one melee hit check my char profile malefique on nektulos server.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>96 dmg highest magic hit, 94 dmg  highest melee hit. I think those dmg are quite decent because dont forget as a tank you will do those dmg often and stays alive longer than any of the other classes.(mages, priests, scouts...)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Rit]

<blockquote><hr>dragula wrote:<DIV>Bloodrage is only useful when u fight a lot of opponent, bloodrage makes you do aoe all the times, no effect on single target. </DIV><hr></blockquote>Not true, Bloodrage procs on single targets. It has a chance to proc whenever you land a melee hit. So the number of targets only increases that chance when you use an AE attack.

[dragu]

<DIV>But since the goal is to use ae what's the point of using on single target? added dmg?</DIV>

[Khal]

<DIV>I have been using blood rage against multiple targets and bloodlust against singles as Blood rage does not seem to proc when bloodlust is up.</DIV>

[Jakka]

<DIV>132 Highest Magic Hit</DIV> <DIV>142 Highest Melee Hit</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At 22 and still using quest 2hander.  And if I'm not tanking, the main tank has to taunt constantly to keep me from getting agro.  I'm happy with my damage output.</DIV>