Is it possible to hit 6k mitigation self buffed?

[mikemcmodmi]

<DIV>Hey,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was on the warden forums and someone posted that their tank has 6k mitigation self buffed.  I was under the impression that the highest you could go was about 5700 or so with all the best gear in game.  Is it possible to hit 6k mit self buffed?  Thanks.</DIV>

[Domiuk]

<DIV>it must be , I am quite a way from having the best gear in the game and can hit 5500</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I can think of 3 pieces off the top of my head that would give me another 300 and even now i could use a potion and get 5740 (yes i till have some)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I suspect with just reticulated vambraces and Draconic spaulders i would hit 5750, on top of that almost all of my left side armour has possible upgrads(most small but 5 pieces at 30-100 a piece is easliy going to make the 6000 mark and maybe even a little more.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[EasternKing]

i can hit 5944 and i dont have doomrage spaulders ...27 -28 visits and not one pair ..im wearing relic in that slot...the doomrage will add about 100 to that total ..so yeah with doomrage i would be about 6044miti selfbuffed no shortterm buffs.

[mikemcmodmi]

Wow, our tank has the Ichor helm and dragon bone leggings and he only hits 5300 mitigation.  Can you link all your items to hit that high mitigation?  Or maybe not link, but list them off?

[Finedo]

i am at 5818 atm but missing a few items still tell EoF anywasy =(<div></div>

[Docimodo]

<P>The highest I can hit solo without trading off crap loads of hp is:  ~5600 miti --- 78.4% vs level 70 physical    ~80% vs crush, ~78% vs slash, ~78% vs pierce. </P> <P>WTB more DT plate! Only the drake has been kind enough to spew forth some really mismatching white gloves!</P> <P> </P> <P>Also what is everyones opinion on the drakes bracers versus the Windforged ones? I'm leaning towards that hefty 7% reactive taunt personally.</P>

[gfx]

Ahh when i saw this thread i was wondering how much mitigation you could get Saracen.<div></div>

[Docimodo]

<P>hehe <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> yes its quite nice to have decapitate hit me for 600 <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </P> <P> </P> <P>I hear you have a guardian on nagafen! Good choice!</P>

[Snorm]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> mikemcmodmike wrote:<BR> Wow, our tank has the Ichor helm and dragon bone leggings and he only hits 5300 mitigation.  Can you link all your items to hit that high mitigation?  Or maybe not link, but list them off?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Is that his max mit though? He's probably trading mit down because much past 5200-5300 it's just a waste and you're better off beefing up HP, balancing resists, or capping your Str. Also possible he dropped the AA mit for more hate.</P> <P>Snorm -- 70 Guard</P>

[gfx]

<div><blockquote><hr>Docimodo wrote:<div></div> <p>hehe <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> yes its quite nice to have decapitate hit me for 600 <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p> <p>I hear you have a guardian on nagafen! Good choice!</p><hr></blockquote>yep, lvl 28 one for pvp <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> wanted an iksar, like the saracen, but i was too lazy to betray hehe.. I enjoy him tho. Btw, grats on Dread.</div>

[BetaMaster]

<DIV>I calculated it out before... In a full out mit set you can get a guardian up to around 6200mit self buffed.  Your HP isn't at it's top but you mit surely is.  It's only a useful idea when soloing yellows tho.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>didn't bother to post a list as u see... but i'm sure someone will ask later</DIV>

[zormik]

<P>I'm pretty sure you must be able to hit 6K solo not buffed and only in defensive stance.</P> <P>I know i can hit close to 5.7K like that. I'm using the buckler so i'm missing the mitigationbonus on a towershield. I also don't own the ichor torax yet which would add another big chunk.  The rest of my gear is good but there is still higher mitigation gear in the game then that i'm wearing.</P> <P>Be aware that that is not my tanking setup though. It's if i really only look to mitigation and nothing else which means i sacrifice hp, stats and resists.  With my normal setup i sit around 5.4K mitigation.</P>

[Super Du]

tower doesn't give u mitigation unless you're using queno claymore... it slaps to your avoid. shih

[EasternKing]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> mikemcmodmike wrote:<BR> Wow, our tank has the Ichor helm and dragon bone leggings and he only hits 5300 mitigation.  Can you link all your items to hit that high mitigation?  Or maybe not link, but list them off?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>sorry for the delay, here is a screenshot of my max miti  and a screenshot of my usual set up, switching a few things either gives more hp's or more miti.</P> <P><IMG src="http://www.eq2forsaken.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10013/EQ2_000126.jpg"></P> <P>here is my usual set up.</P> <P><IMG src="http://www.eq2forsaken.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10013/EQ2_000127.jpg"></P> <P> </P> <P>so while yes its possible to get over 6k miti solo with no buffs and potions ..at this moment in time its not really needed  5.5k to 5.6 + a healer is more than enough miti ....i can get myself over 9.2k hps but my mit drops down to below 5.4k i prefer to keep a balance between max hps and max miti rather than boosting one to the detriment of the other.</P>

[zormik]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Super Du wrote:<BR> tower doesn't give u mitigation unless you're using queno claymore... it slaps to your avoid. shih<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR>Think before you answer bud...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What you say knows everybody who knows the game.  The thing you are forgetting is that a lot of towershields add +144 to all physical mitigation.  While with the best buckler you can only get a boost of around +70...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So that's another extra 70 mitigation if you don't have the bucklerline like i have.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>hehe, that's what you get from trying to be the smart [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>friendly greetings :smileytongue:</DIV>

[BetaMaster]

<DIV>you got it right... it's all about the balance</DIV> <DIV>I'm at 9400hp 5560mit currently... missing ichor, doomrage spaulders, reticulated dragonscale, vitrified dragonscale and dragon bone tho.  That should help a bit.</DIV>

[Kule]

[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] dude, how many runs will it take? <span>:smileysad:Somebody get </span>Abomidable some Doomrage Spaulders, geeze. <span>:smileytongue:My gear is a bit lower than most of yall, but I sit at around </span><span>8200 HP</span><span> with </span><span>5500 MIT, with buckler.(dkp>mt) <span>:smileysad:</span></span><div></div>

[Sir_Halbarad]

Will be harder now with EoF values <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Every fabled T7 piece getting a 20-30 point mitigation decrease<div></div>

[Domiuk]

<DIV>"Every fabled T7 piece getting a 20-30 point mitigation decrease"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just cant wait to see my stats <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My understanding is that most fable gear is dropping maybe 10-20% in mitigation value.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However i also understand that each piece gets about a 15% bonus from the new version of our defensive stance.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The bit i am very unclear on is how well legendary jewellry comes out of this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At the moment most of us are wearing claymore legendary in 2 or 3 slots or light chitin rings etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That claymore stuff i believe will not take the new adornments and this i think basically means it will be the first things that need replacing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I rather suspect i will be above 6k solo within 2 weeks but will be interesting to see.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[lostsandman]

<P>What i have noticed is that on beta pretty much all the plate tnaks have the same AC give t7 fable (those beta buffed toon you create and  see).</P> <P>Warriors still have more AC number than other plate tanks but % wise to pretty clsoe now. We may have say may be 1% or 2% more. If you get healer AC buffs the % is even less.</P> <P>On live with KoS Wis line i was setting at 70%AC (no buffs) now  i am down to about 60%AC (with both  command and WoF you can push it to about 67% i think).</P>

[Aaeamyen]

Yea you can get above 6k mit, I was at around 6k+ before combat changes now i'm at around 5700 - 5800 depending on the gear i chose and what resist i want up. But yuppers 6k mitigation isn't a problem. the 16k hp raid buffed is what i'm looking for! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Will.]

<blockquote><hr>Domiuk wrote:<div>"Every fabled T7 piece getting a 20-30 point mitigation decrease"</div> <div> </div> <div>I just cant wait to see my stats <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div> <div> </div> <div>My understanding is that most fable gear is dropping maybe 10-20% in mitigation value.</div> <div> </div> <div>However i also understand that each piece gets about a 15% bonus from the new version of our defensive stance.</div> <div> </div> <div><b>The bit i am very unclear on is how well legendary jewellry comes out of this.</b></div> <div> </div> <div>At the moment most of us are wearing claymore legendary in 2 or 3 slots or light chitin rings etc.</div> <div> </div> <div>That claymore stuff i believe will not take the new adornments and this i think basically means it will be the first things that need replacing.</div> <div> </div> <div>I rather suspect i will be above 6k solo within 2 weeks but will be interesting to see. </div><hr></blockquote>Well for one thing, jewelry with Mit isn't boosted by our Defensive Stance. For another, the extra 100-odd points of Mit you get from Light Chitin, Dragonscale is pretty much worthless. I get another 0.4% mitigation swapping 2 light chitin in for 2 dark. But I lose a ton of health and power. The extra resists might make them useful on raids still but for regular grouping or soloing they're garbage. (On the other hand, my dragonscale bracelet is actually worth wearing now instead of the aviak-feather charm. And the CoP is garbage too finally. <span>:smileywink:</span> ) Abaia Iksar Guard<div></div>

[Domiuk]

<DIV>funny enough my cop has come back out of the bag <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I too have dumped my light chitin earings for dark <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems plus parry and plus defence are the big winners on gear and as far as i can tel anything over about 5k mitigation seems to make bugger all differance <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>dissapointed in the combat chages soo far.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Even worse agility actually seems to make a noticable differance and all the new tank gear doesnt even seem to have agility on it <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>