View Full Version : STR AA line hate gain
Izzypop
09-12-2006, 06:10 PM
I really feel I need more hate than dps, so I am wondering a few things about the increased hate ability on our str line.Multiple choice Quiz someone help me A) Does this only effect hate generated on autoattack dps?B) Does this increase out hate gained only from out dps ie combat arts and autoattack?C) Does this increase our hate gained from all our sources, autoattack, dps combat arts, and our taunts?<div></div>
Izzypop
09-12-2006, 06:14 PM
Ow yea I'm thinking of max tier 4 wis for mitigation and max tier 4 str for hateto act as a main tank. My overhall hate generated matters more to me than my dps.<div></div>
Domiuk
09-12-2006, 06:35 PM
<DIV>This is a preference thing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With str line you get about +10% hate across everything.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So if you do 500dps and another 500 worth of taunt you will do 1100 worth of hate. (excluding outside hate gain)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You do of course get the other str line stuff eg more criticals so your hate gain is gonna be higher than 10%, lets say 20.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The one advantage it has is that your aoe taunts will also be +10%. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The problem is imo the alternatives in general give even better hate gain.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The buckler/stamina line being the obvious one, this line will increase dps significantly and therefore hate more than 20%.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So as in above example if your doing 800dps and 500 taunting your doing 1300 worth of hate.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There is an argument that the str line allows better aoe hate gain but Its not one that sways me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Sir_Halbarad
09-12-2006, 06:41 PM
<DIV>I had this build too. STR 4,4,8,8 + WIS 4,4,8,8</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The 10% Hate Bonus should work on everything you do. Taunt, Damage, Debuff - and it should stack with other Hate Buffs/Transfers (Swashie, Assassin, Dirge, Coercer).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was quite happy with this build until I decided to try out the STA line after I got the buckler from Ironfang.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I never looked back. Since you turn your 1hander basically into a 2hander with the Double Attack Rate and since 1 damage = 1 hate, you generate alot more hate with auto-attack then with the 10% Hate Buff from STR Line.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is from personal experience and from the fact that the wizards and warlocks that generally try to steal aggro when I group with them complained about it <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
Izzypop
09-12-2006, 07:42 PM
Sigh, I hate bucklers.............It seems like I have to play a 2nd rate guard by not using one.<div></div>
BetaMaster
09-12-2006, 09:18 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Izzypop wrote:<BR>Sigh, I hate bucklers.............<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I hate bucklers too, and I only use mine while tanking stuff that is easy. Using a nail guard (as my brother calls bucklers on my ogre) is annoying but something that you get used to. When you start doing 1100dps every fight, you'll see why it's worth it.</P> <P>as for original question, the answer is 'C', it affects everything that you do to increase your hate. I started out with that build as well cause it seemed obvious to me... It won't make you a 2nd rate guard, it just makes you a different style of tank.</P>
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