Thanks, Devs!

[Sir_Halbarad]

Just wanted to drop a quick line here.In my opinion KoS has been a great expansion for us Guards.It was a much needed pat on the back after the hard times of DoF in my opinion but I think the balance we achieved now is a really good one.I am really happy with my Guard again and I am even happier and a little bit proud that I stuck to him <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Of course there are still some issues with our class, but we have improved alot in my opinion, so I want to shout out:Great job, devs!/doability Tower of Stone for all the flames<div></div>

[Taschen77]

<blockquote><hr>Sir_Halbarad wrote:/doability Tower of Stone <div></div><hr></blockquote>Yeah, KoS has been a rather nice expansion for the Warriors <span>:smileywink:</span> I'm leveling a Berserker alt to join the fun, and I can't wait to get him up high enough for some raiding. /doability Insolent Gibe * Pulls entire surrounding area* /doability Pray I'm looking forward to it! Glad you're enjoying your Guardian as much as I enjoy my new Warrior =) <div></div>

[Burningho]

<P>I agree.  KoS was great for Guards.  The life of a guardian was pretty bad there for awhile.  It look a long time for things to improve, but I really enjoy playing my guardian now. </P> <P>All of the small changes they have made since LU#13 (like removing the root from Inflaming Defense), giving us Obliterate at 65, and adding some nice AA options have really helped make the guardian class fun the play again.  It was a small change, but once they removed the snare/root from Inflaming Defense I was MUCH happier. </P> <P>I really think that the warrior AA's are some of the best out there.  They really add some flexibility to an otherwise boring class.  Looking at the warrior AA tree, all of the major things that we were complaining about after LU#13 is addressed via AA's.  </P><p>Message Edited by Burninghope on <span class=date_text>09-10-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:22 PM</span>

[BetaMaster]

<DIV>In DoF I rushed my guardian from 50-60 to realize i didn't enjoy him anymore and made a warlock... played the warlock for T6 but when I got into T7 I started seeing all the fun stuff I could get for my guard and I couldn't resist going back to the metal man.  The itemization in KoS is fantastic from proc effects, vs stats, +stat boosts, + skill boosts.  Balancing everything is fun on its own.</DIV> <DIV>Only negative remark... a little toooo much FT... I love FT and I am not saying get rid of it, but it seems to be alllllll over the place.  Maybe instead of making a FT8 item, make it a FT3 with a %chance to heal extra for priest, or %chance to do dmg or deaggro for mage.  Like the resplenent spaulders from DT.</DIV>

[Meattray]

I wanna say thanks too  My guard is rocking and is at his top place of keeping a group or raid safe.I have to say Tanking Epic with a guard is SOO MUCH FUNMost people miss out on one of the best things in the game, tankin and taking down the badest mobs in the game.Problems there is very limited spots in guilds and on servers for raid tanking guards, on the lucky few......Sorann, Najena<div></div>

[WolfSha]

<P>Nooooo!! quiet you fools, they'll nerf us! :smileysurprised:</P> <P>Seriously tho, i leveled my zerker to 70 very quicly and sat at 70 a long time enjoying him, then betrayed to guard recently.</P> <P>I really loved playing as a zerker, and am now really enjoying playing a guard as well.  The differences between them are subtle, but imo pitched just right for where the two classes should be in relation to each other and i really don't think one is "better" than the other atm - just different.</P> <P>Good work guys, warriors are enjoyable classes to play again.  Not over powered, but fun, solid classes.</P> <P>My swashie is also a LOT better in T7 than he's ever been and i enjoy like him at lvl 70 too.  Swash is a really uninspiring class below T7.  I can't put my finger on what exactly it is, but it was always an effort to play him below T7 but 60-70 just flew past.</P> <P>I'm sure some other classes still feel they have issues that need fixing and there's been times when i've been very fed up with my two mains, but atm i'm very happy with both!</P> <P>Good job devs!</P>

[Scadie]

<DIV>grats to you all that you are satisfied with your class.. some lu´s ago i was at the same status like you, i was really satisfied with my pally </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>so believe the op that you should´nt say this too loud and to often.. if you won´t share the nerfage of us pallies </DIV>

[BetaMaster]

<P>The people posting here are the people who know how to play their class well...  Any class in the game (when played well) can thrive tremendously.  I have seen many guardians who don't know what they are doing and still complain about their "situation" so it's ok to say thanks once in awhile when you do finally figure out the right way to play something.</P> <P>Rangers were "nurfed" but I know some who can still match top dps.  Necros and Conjurors as well.</P> <P>Everyone gets nurfed, but when they do this change of classes they check all different angles of that class and make it work out... these classes all work right now (i've played most of them), you just have to know how to play it to its full potential.</P>

[Sirlutt]

<div><blockquote><hr>Scadie wrote:<div>grats to you all that you are satisfied with your class.. some lu´s ago i was at the same status like you, i was really satisfied with my pally </div> <div> </div> <div>so believe the op that you should´nt say this too loud and to often.. if you won´t share the nerfage of us pallies </div><hr></blockquote>I have a friend who was unhappy with his pally too..he rolled a guard and is much happier.. true story <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />i went back to my Ranger and made him an assassin..  I <3 the DPS.</div>

[Tyrion]

<P>I'm tremendously happy with my Guardian. I never felt that he was really weak in T6, I certainly feel strong in T7 and I think that's attributed to the fact that I'm raiding consistantly now. The fabled gear really trivializes heroic content, especially when you group with a Coercer every night <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>In regards to raiding, there's been a lot of complaining that the stamina achievement line for Warriors is too powerful. While I completely disagree and feel that most protestors don't ever introduce context to their examples, I get this terrible feeling we're going to get hit with the nerf bat. I laugh when I hear people saying that warriors shouldn't tank with Bucklers. Why not? I don't think there's ever been <FONT color=#ff0000>red writing </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff>telling us that we shouldn't. In the end,</FONT> I would rather see other classes with weaker AAs get some stronger ones, which in turn would even out the zone wide DPS parses. Also, as better gear, tactics and strategy are utilized, total raid DPS goes up, meaning that warriors parsing 1000-1200 zone wide isn't too powerful if most of your DPS is 1500+.</P> <P>Getting back on topic, warriors are great now right now, but we'll see what EoF holds for us. We could take a hit in the DPS, we might not. We might see other fighters make leaps tanking wise and possibly outstage us, although I find that unlikely. In my eyes, Guardians should always be the best tanks. While our DPS is quite strong at the moment, I attribute that to certain DPS classes needing help, not warriors being overpowered.</P><p>Message Edited by Tyrion on <span class=date_text>09-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:58 AM</span>

[vatorman99]

I have to agree with the majority of posters here that I've been enjoying my guardian as well.  I was getting bored with him pre KoS, but after I hit the cap and got all 50 AAs, I'm definately having a good time.  I haven't touched or played my alts in months <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span><div></div>

[Burningho]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vatorman99 wrote:<BR>I have to agree with the majority of posters here that I've been enjoying my guardian as well.  I was getting bored with him pre KoS, but after I hit the cap and got all 50 AAs, I'm definately having a good time.  <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Helv size=2> <P>I think that is it exactly. It is really our AA's that made the guardian class fun again. </P></FONT><BR></DIV>

[lostsandman]

I was one of those people who left the game after lu13 but back now after 6 months and enjoying my class lot better.What i see is that zekers tanks almost well as us yet does LOT more DPS than us. Anyway i was wondering anyone here in EoF beta?If you read some of the threads in the main forum many people are calling for Warrior nerf mainly to sta line. Now a nerf to sta line won't affect Zekers much, they do great dps anyway, but it will affect us a lot...I don't think they will nerf sta line as such but we won't get any nice AA in the new expansion...Does anyone know any thing about the new AAs?Thanks

[vatorman99]

<div><blockquote><hr>lostsandman wrote:I was one of those people who left the game after lu13 but back now after 6 months and enjoying my class lot better.What i see is that zekers tanks almost well as us yet does LOT more DPS than us. Anyway i was wondering anyone here in EoF beta?If you read some of the threads in the main forum many people are calling for Warrior nerf mainly to sta line. Now a nerf to sta line won't affect Zekers much, they do great dps anyway, but it will affect us a lot...I don't think they will nerf sta line as such but we won't get any nice AA in the new expansion...Does anyone know any thing about the new AAs?Thanks<hr></blockquote>To my knowledge, EoF beta has not come out yet, and probably won't be out for another few weeks.  I don't use the STA line, so a nerf in that regard won't affect me personally.  However, I really hope they don't nerf the line because a lot other guardian seem to be enjoying it.I've looked everywhere myself on the new subclass AAs they are introducing, but haven't turned up anything.  I don't think we'll get any really good info prior to beta.  We just have to wait for that I guess</div>

[Rah]

<P>I will  admit with the AA line I have taken (non buckler fotm) I am very happy with the performance my guard is capable of so dont worry if the buckler line is adjusted the others work fine as well. </P> <P>I was very concerned over what KoS AA would bring into the game and I am now very pleased with the implementation. </P> <P><FONT color=#66ff33><FONT size=4>Thanks Mr. Warrior Dev!</FONT> </FONT></P> <P>/e hijack</P> <P>Now Mr Warrior Dev can you split up AA paths in EoF, give me a little more flavor over the Zerk/Guard template. One that can make the class viable raid slot if not the MA/MT position.</P> <P>Rahge</P>

[Raahl]

<P>I'll chime in here also after the huge nerf last year sometime, I was extremely unhappy with my guardian and started playing my Ranger as my main..  Eventually I cancelled my subscription in Dec '05, because I really wanted to play my guardian but could not bring myself to..  In Jun '06 I resubscribed and found that my guardian was playable again.</P> <P>Guardians are now fun to play!   It took Sony a while, but great work!</P> <P> </P> <P>[Edit] And yes the AA line does wonders to the enjoyablility of the Guardian class.</P><p>Message Edited by Raahl on <span class=date_text>09-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:11 AM</span>

[Burningho]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raahl wrote:<BR> <P>And yes the AA line does wonders to the enjoyablility of the Guardian class.</P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah, and now I see posts from other classes calling for nerfs to the warrior aa tree, especially the sta line.  What's up with that?<BR>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Burninghope wrote:<BR> Yeah, and now I see posts from other classes calling for nerfs to the warrior aa tree, especially the sta line.  What's up with that?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>What's up with posts asking for the sta line to be nerfed?  They probably don't want the most defensive classes in the game to be out dps'ing classes that are designed to do dps, which the sta line now allows.<BR>

[Jackula]

<div></div><div></div>How apropos for you to be the first to chime in.Yes, when you are equipped with the best gear in the game that is available to elite raiders only, invest all the time required to get that gear, have many more masters than adept 3s, and are buffed to the max in a group that is designed around you to let you reach your full potential you can do very well with the line.   With all that going for any class it  <i>should</i> do extremely well.  It isn't AAs only that are letting  the very few higher parsers get those results. However, for the rest of us mere mortals, the warrior AA tree has taken the Guardian from barely tolerable to reasonably effective and fun again.  On that note, the mere mortals aren't breaking through the dps charts. We are achieving reasonable dps to the dps tier we are supposed to be in.Do other classes have room for improvement in their AA trees?  Yes.  Is the warrior AA tree so broken it needs to be re-adjusted (ie, nerfed)? I don't think so.  What it does have is more than one skill line that can actually bring useful tools to the table.Luckily, the AA boost/nerf/revamp decisions aren't up to you or me.  I  think its fair to say neither of us is completely unbiased.  SoE will make that call, and with the new expansion coming perhaps we'll see those AA trees more rounded out for all classes.  AAs have allowed for some interesting mixes with some classes.  My templar can actually hope to solo through some quests if need be.  On others alts, I look at the AA choices and just /boggle "What were they thinking?"I think SoE got AAs right for warriors, and I'm happy for it.  If anything, I hope they flesh out the AA trees better for some of the other classes.<div></div><p><span class="date_text"></span><span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by countjackula on <span class=date_text>09-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:00 AM</span>

[Sir_Halbarad]

<div><blockquote><hr>Gaige wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Burninghope wrote: <div></div>Yeah, and now I see posts from other classes calling for nerfs to the warrior aa tree, especially the sta line.  What's up with that? <hr> </blockquote>What's up with posts asking for the sta line to be nerfed?  They probably don't want the most defensive classes in the game to be out dps'ing classes that are designed to do dps, which the sta line now allows.<hr></blockquote>I dont think a solo guard does more dps than a solo dps class. The rest is buffs and grp setup.btw, Gaige, are you visiting the berserker boards too? the (2nd by an inch) most defensive class with top tier dps WITHOUT aa's?</div>

[Original Cinadien]

<DIV>The only thing constant in life is change, enjoy the game as it is today and know that change is inevitable and you wont be disappointed. Personally I like when they change classes a bit, it makes raiding the same instances over and over and over a little more interesting when xxx class cant do xxx anymore and now we need a new strat.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Original Cinadien on <span class=date_text>09-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:18 AM</span>

[Gaige]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> countjackula wrote:<BR> How apropos for you to be the first to chime in.<BR><BR>Yes, when you are equipped with the best gear in the game that is available to elite raiders only, invest all the time required to get that gear, have many more masters than adept 3s, and are buffed to the max in a group that is designed around you to let you reach your full potential you can do very well with the line.   With all that going for any class it  <I>should</I> do extremely well.  It isn't AAs only that are letting  the very few higher parsers get those results. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Of course I can only speak for high end raiders, since that is how I play the game.  About three weeks ago though we posted a zonewide parse from our Lyceum raid and we had two warriors in our top 7.  One was the berserker who was tanking and he parsed around 1500ish zonewide, losing out to our conjuror and necro but beating a warlock and brigand, etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The other was our normal MT guardian who was in the dps group with our bruiser and some other dps classes.  That guardian posted a 1200ish zonewide parse as a dps, not offtank.  So the arguement about buffs and tanking and damage shields doesn't really apply.  He parsed about 10dps less zonewide than our bruiser, probably because we had him tank the last guy and he uses a tower shield for that fight.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So apples to apples (guard vs bruiser, same caliber of gear, same group) the guardian is doing too much damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>That was my point.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I suppose SOE can balance towards the low end, and how much a lvl 40 guardian in all handcrafted can parse trio'ing in rivervale, but I don't think that is in their best interest.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You know what I don't even care anymore if you guys want to be the best tanks, but out dps'ing brawlers and some scouts/mages is pretty silly - don't you think?  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Of course I think its silly that guardians can tank orange x4 epics with a tiny buckler.  You'd think the double attack line would have some sort of real penalty... but guess not.<BR></DIV>

[Kain Hammersmith]

<DIV>Hey Gaige, like I have said to you before, roll a Guard and lvl him to the top. Then and only then will your opinion about Guards really matter. As of now you are just a troll on these boards.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kain Hammersmith wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hey Gaige, like I have said to you before, roll a Guard and lvl him to the top. Then and only then will your opinion about Guards really matter. As of now you are just a troll on these boards.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>My guard is lvl 40 thanks.  I don't tend to grind alts hardcore though, so it'll be awhile before he is 70.  Oh and I don't care if you think my opinion matters or not, you don't change the game, SOE does.</P> <P>I seriously doubt any of you can honestly say a guardian should be tanking a raid mob and out dps'ing dps classes.  If you think that you're seriously crazy.</P> <P>I can find numerous posts in this very forum by many raiding guardians who shouted "Give us tanking, not utility and dps!"  but now a lot of those same guys are like "OMG this dps is fine, I need it for aggro!"</P> <P>I guess that comes with the territory playing a historically overpowered class.<BR></P>

[Kain Hammersmith]

<DIV>Hey Gaige, me and you have went round and round. I stopped playing my Guard after your crusade against us got us nerfed to unplayable. I rolled a Bruiser, that is 61 btw, and I have to say that if you ever think that a Guard is overpowered you are only protecting your new class. My bruiser can do things that my Guard only dreams about doing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Overpowered I think not. More balanced I think is true. But if want to start a new crusade against Guards go right ahead. Get us nerfed again, no biggie.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think it is really funny that you switch servers, to the one I am one btw, and then you betray so you can be a Bruiser after being the self claimed voice of the Monk class. Now you are in the most hated and ignored Raiding Guild on our server playing a class that you said you would never betray to. I get a chuckle everytime I see you on the boards or in game.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good luck Gaige, and I hope that one day you will learn that this is not your game and let other people have fun also.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im done, argue with yourself, you only hear what you say anyway and pay no attention to anyone else. Maybe SOE should make you your own server where you are allways top DPS and can solo epicX4s.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good Day!</DIV>

[Gaige]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kain Hammersmith wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hey Gaige, me and you have went round and round. I stopped playing my Guard after your crusade against us got us nerfed to unplayable. I rolled a Bruiser, that is 61 btw, and I have to say that if you ever think that a Guard is overpowered you are only protecting your new class.  <FONT color=#ffff00>I can see your point.  I'm protecting the dirge class, which is what I currently play as my main, by talking about guardians being overpowered.  Wow man you *are* really intouch with what I'm trying to accomplish.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My bruiser can do things that my Guard only dreams about doing.  <FONT color=#ffff00>Sure sure, like FD and Safefall.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Overpowered I think not. More balanced I think is true. But if want to start a new crusade against Guards go right ahead. Get us nerfed again, no biggie.  <FONT color=#ffff00>Again?  You give me too much credit.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think it is really funny that you switch servers, to the one I am one btw, and then you betray so you can be a Bruiser after being the self claimed voice of the Monk class.  <FONT color=#ffff00>You have that backwards.  I betrayed to bruiser while on Blackburrow.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now you are in the most hated and ignored Raiding Guild on our server playing a class that you said you would never betray to. I get a chuckle everytime I see you on the boards or in game.  <FONT color=#ffff00>The best are always hated.  Jealousy is a horrible thing <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  As for saying I would never betray to dirge, I don't think I ever said that.  In fact, I don't think I ever had a troub to betray anyway, unless you count my lvl 26 one on Guk I haven't played since 05.  I'm glad I can make you laugh though, laughter is the best medicine!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good luck Gaige, and I hope that one day you will learn that this is not your game and let other people have fun also.  <FONT color=#ffff00>No.  I will not tolerate other people having fun at my expense.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im done, argue with yourself, you only hear what you say anyway and pay no attention to anyone else. Maybe SOE should make you your own server where you are allways top DPS and can solo epicX4s.  <FONT color=#ffff00>That would be pretty nifty, wouldn't it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good Day! <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Wabit]

and here i was thinking gaige forgot where the guard forums were <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ...  /wave

[Khrunk]

<DIV>just curious as how my level 55 bruiser has no trouble soloing a 52^^^ heoric, and my level 65 guardian cant solo a 57^^ heoric? just a ponder if guardians are overpowered. honestly i think it is bruiser whom are overpowered.</DIV>

[Raahl]

<DIV>[Edit] Removed</DIV><p>Message Edited by Raahl on <span class=date_text>09-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:38 PM</span>

[Raahl]

<DIV><STRIKE>BTW Gage, thanks for turning a thank you post into a war.</STRIKE></DIV> <DIV><STRIKE></STRIKE> </DIV> <DIV>[Edit] Actually looking at the posts, we should have just ignored Gage's first comment.  He probably wouldn't have taken it any further.  One of our own started the little battle in this post with Gage.  Sigh.  I've also removed my prior posts replying to Gage, because it never leads anywhere good.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Raahl on <span class=date_text>09-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:37 PM</span>

[Meattray]

<P>Just wanna say something about Guards and DPS</P> <P>My guard is a Alt back up tank, i have full set of doomrage ( not boots) fabled 2 hander and other normal tank gear (claymore ect)</P> <P>I went to do the dragon for deathtoll access, the one in temple of scale where you have to kill all the adds before you kill the dragon.  I went as hard as i could and for 15mins my dps was 350, i couldnt do any more than that i just run out of power.</P> <P>I have seen my dps hit 500-700 in short fights when im main tank, but as MT im usaly 400-600 with all the buffs on me, thats alot of buffs.</P> <P>My AA setup is for tanking only, not for dps.</P> <P>So not all tanks have uber dps have if thay have good gear and spells</P> <P> </P> <P>Sorann, Najena</P>

[aislynn00]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Meattray wrote:<BR> <P>I have seen my dps hit 500-700 in short fights when im main tank, but as MT im usaly 400-600 with all the buffs on me, thats alot of buffs.</P> <P>My AA setup is for tanking only, not for dps.</P> <P>So not all tanks have uber dps have if thay have good gear and spells</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>While tanking, I am usually sitting at around 850 DPS vs most trash.  In Lyceum, I sometimes reach 1000 DPS.<BR><BR>That is with one of the weaker fabled tier 7 one-handers and a MT group comprised of defiler, templar, warden, dirge, swashbuckler, and guardian--hardly the ideal group for maxing DPS.</P> <P>To paraphrase, with the Stamina AA line, it really isn't hard to do decent DPS on raids.</P>

[Rah]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gaige wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kain Hammersmith wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hey Gaige, me and you have went round and round. I stopped playing my Guard after your crusade against us got us nerfed to unplayable. I rolled a Bruiser, that is 61 btw, and I have to say that if you ever think that a Guard is overpowered you are only protecting your new class.  <FONT color=#ffff00>I can see your point.  I'm protecting the dirge class, which is what I currently play as my main, by talking about guardians being overpowered.  Wow man you *are* really intouch with what I'm trying to accomplish.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ff00>Your track record for making any comment on the preformance of a guardian is well know Gaige. Good luck on driving change again Fan Boi, btw isnt Tuesday poker nite with the Devs?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ff00></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>My bruiser can do things that my Guard only dreams about doing.  <FONT color=#ffff00>Sure sure, like FD and Safefall</FONT><FONT color=#66ff00>......Mez, Fear, Heal, cure Trauma DOT's obtain amazing HP numbers, more easily obtain raid gear since the numbers are in yuour favor, not pay half the cost ne one else does to repair if FD failed. Any one else want to add to this? I am absolutley positive that we could branch off the usefulness of each one of those things listed for example pulling Lab trash around all the names, etc, etc, etc</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Overpowered I think not. More balanced I think is true. But if want to start a new crusade against Guards go right ahead. Get us nerfed again, no biggie.  <FONT color=#ffff00>Again?  You give me too much credit.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think it is really funny that you switch servers, to the one I am one btw, and then you betray so you can be a Bruiser after being the self claimed voice of the Monk class.  <FONT color=#ffff00>You have that backwards.  I betrayed to bruiser while on Blackburrow. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now you are in the most hated and ignored Raiding Guild on our server playing a class that you said you would never betray to. I get a chuckle everytime I see you on the boards or in game.  <FONT color=#ffff00>The best are always hated. <FONT color=#66ff00>HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...cough...cough...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH</FONT> </FONT><FONT color=#66ff00>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....HAHAHA...HAHAHA </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>Jealousy is a horrible thing <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  As for saying I would never betray to dirge, I don't think I ever said that.  In fact, I don't think I ever had a troub to betray anyway, unless you count my lvl 26 one on Guk I haven't played since 05.  I'm glad I can make you laugh though, laughter is the best medicine! </FONT><FONT color=#66ff00>My GOD my cancer is cured!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good luck Gaige, and I hope that one day you will learn that this is not your game and let other people have fun also.  <FONT color=#ffff00>No.  I will not tolerate other people having fun at my expense. </FONT><FONT color=#66ff00>Okay everyone read this one carefully and remebere everything you do as a tank is at Gaiges expense.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Im done, argue with yourself, you only hear what you say anyway and pay no attention to anyone else. Maybe SOE should make you your own server where you are allways top DPS and can solo epicX4s.  <FONT color=#ffff00>That would be pretty nifty, wouldn't it. </FONT><FONT color=#66ff00>Thanks for all your insightfull and helpfull information again Gaige.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ff00>/e Wave</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#66ff00>/say "Please drive through"!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good Day! <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Amazing, this guy just cant let it go. I really really really really really want to meet that Guardian who bent him over the entrance to splitpaw and shakje his hand!</P> <P> </P> <P>Rahge<BR></P>

[Raahl]

<P>Rahge - Why can't you just let it go also?  You are only inciting him to come reply to your post.   It's a perpetual cycle.  Sigh.</P> <P>[Edit] Take the high road!</P><p>Message Edited by Raahl on <span class=date_text>09-19-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:53 PM</span>

[BetaMaster]

<DIV>Anyone who knows how to play their class correctly can thrive.  My warlock does around 800-1000dps single target, 1100-1300dps on 2 targets 1400-1600dps on 3 targets, and then it starts to skyrocket after that.  I can make sure that I don't get aggro while doing that much dps as well.  My warlock has no T7 fabled, no nizara stuff, very little procing gear, no mystical dmg proc earring.  My spell book is only half mastered for 57-70.  No Apoc etc.  So any sorcer that isn't doing much dmg... try something new, you can put out some good damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ALSO, when you think about the dps of your MT please remember that he/she has proc buffs all over the place that boost his damage for aggro reasons.</DIV>