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Raahl
09-05-2006, 09:30 PM
<DIV>Reinforcement - Does the hate only proc on auto attack or does it also proc on combat arts?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Intervene Lines - Did Sony ever fix these so mitigation is taken in account?</DIV>

aislynn00
09-05-2006, 09:35 PM
<DIV>Reinforcement procs on CA's and auto-attacks alike.  A favorite of many guardians is Reinforcement plus Besiege, a combo which effectively constitutes a true AE taunt.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All damage intervention lines now take the guardian's mitigation into account before applying the transferred damage.  Guardian Sphere and Sentry Watch in particular provide us with handy utility these days.</DIV>

Raahl
09-05-2006, 09:40 PM
<P>Thanks!</P> <P>I just recently received Reinforcement (Silly me forgot that I had to buy spells after 50), so it should come in handy.  And I've still been avoiding the intervene line.  </P> <P>Nice  to know.  </P> <P>Thanks again.</P>

dparker7
09-06-2006, 12:11 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> aislynn00 wrote:<BR> <DIV>Reinforcement procs on CA's and auto-attacks alike.  A favorite of many guardians is Reinforcement plus Besiege, a combo which effectively constitutes a true AE taunt.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I generally through plant in there as well.  Not positive, but I think that also counts as a hit.<BR>

BetaMaster
09-06-2006, 01:56 AM
<DIV>I don't believe it procs off plant as that is not an attack but rather a hostile spell (debuff) and reinforcement procs off all attacks (melee + CAs).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by BetaMaster on <span class=date_text>09-08-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:44 PM</span>

Macross_JR
09-06-2006, 07:41 AM
man it would have been nice if reinforcement never got changed in the DoF beta, then guardians would have been way over powered. I miss using the pre-changed beta version of it.<div></div>

Raahl
09-06-2006, 06:48 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Macross_JR wrote:<BR>man it would have been nice if reinforcement never got changed in the DoF beta, then guardians would have been way over powered. I miss using the pre-changed beta version of it.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Being over powered only leads to the Nerf Bat!  We all know what a precision instrument the bat is, usually the nerf is much worse than if it had been balanced to begin with.  And I'm still healing from the last nerf bat beating.   So I am very glad they did not leave it over powered.</P>

aislynn00
09-08-2006, 06:50 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raahl wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Macross_JR wrote:<BR>man it would have been nice if reinforcement never got changed in the DoF beta, then guardians would have been way over powered. I miss using the pre-changed beta version of it.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Being over powered only leads to the Nerf Bat!  We all know what a precision instrument the bat is, usually the nerf is much worse than if it had been balanced to begin with.  And I'm still healing from the last nerf bat beating.   So I am very glad they did not leave it over powered.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>As I recall, in the beta, the ability summoned a short-duration pet (a copy of your own character) which would automatically enter the hate lists of all currently aggroed mobs just ahead of the guardian.  </P> <P>While very powerful vs hard-hitting epic mobs, making guardians a (limited) pet class didn't really sit well with me.  Good riddance, I say, especially considering we got the best taunt in the game instead.</P>

Kine
09-09-2006, 12:53 AM
Gah, that sounds like that awful spell that illusionists have. The miniature group dummies with the memwipe.I know what you are describing is different. Makes me shudder all the same.<div></div>

BetaMaster
09-10-2006, 10:55 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kinen1 wrote:<BR>Gah, that sounds like that awful spell that illusionists have. The miniature group dummies with the memwipe.<BR><BR>I know what you are describing is different. Makes me shudder all the same.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Illusoray Allies has its uses.  While leveling up it saved my group many times when I was low on health and the healers needed tme to catch up.</P> <P>But I agree that the CA is much better as it is now.</P>