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SeattleSeven
08-29-2006, 11:04 AM
<DIV>Ascendant claims to proc on 6% of strikes, yet I've been parsing this weapon on last several raids.  On last Lab's run i had 1989 slashing attacks and only saw Provoking Assault proc 9 times (expected value of 119 procs).  I had 8087 attacks if you include CA's (weapons can proc on CA's correct?) for an expected 485 procs.  I see these staggeringly low results EVERY raid I use this weapon.  The proc percentage *really* needs to be looked into.  I'd love it if someone else verified these findings, and help lend their voice to my /bug efforts.</DIV>

Wabit
08-29-2006, 12:19 PM
on your parse did it show it was 0 of 9 hits?  like most taunts it'll only show resists i think...

NoNameChosen
08-29-2006, 02:26 PM
<DIV>Like Wabit said, procs only show in the logfile when they get resisted. Youw ill see something like:  You try to confound %name% with %taunt%, but %name% resists.<BR>So the 9 Ascendant procs you saw were resists on the mob. Just so you know, Ascendant procs enough to hold agro with hardly any taunting and just be melee'ing with STA line (buckler line) like 1k DPS.</DIV>

Khurghan
08-29-2006, 02:37 PM
Um where are you getting 6% of strikes from? The proc rate is 6% which means 3.2% per swing.<div></div>

rightormig
08-29-2006, 03:07 PM
<DIV>I suggest Reading other topics regarding how procs Work </DIV>

Aandien
08-29-2006, 09:05 PM
<DIV>Take your zone merge -- and instead of looking at how many swings you had, look at your total fight duration.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Take that time, in seconds, and divide it by 3.  That is how many 'swings' you had when it relates to how many chances of a proc there should have been.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Divide that number by the number of procs and you should come close to the 5% proc rate of ascendant.  Of course, you can't see the successful procs of ascendant in a log file -- so using that weapon will be hard to see it....</DIV><p>Message Edited by AncientElster on <span class=date_text>08-29-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:06 AM</span>

Hirf
08-29-2006, 11:15 PM
Ascendant rarely procs for me.I've been eyeballing it by scrolling back after a fight and looking for the message, I'm lucky to get one proc on any non-epic-named fight.If I can find the time I'll kidnap a healer, swap out the buckler, find a lvl 70 heroic, then try to get some numbers.

SeattleSeven
08-30-2006, 12:30 AM
<div></div>Ahah!  Thanks Wabit and NoNameChosen you were right on with what I was missing.  I had no idea it only logged resists.And thanks for all your help rightormight?  I think?<a href="../view_profile?user.id=63022" target="_blank"><span></span></a><div></div>

R
08-30-2006, 08:52 PM
IIRC when you proc Ascendant you get the emote "You taunt soandso with a provoking assault" or something along that lines. <div></div>