5 point idea

[Scyen]

just reset the AAcurrently set up is WIS 4 4 4 8 8STA 4 4 8 1is <strong>Gladiator's Revenge to block attack good ?now is thinking the rest point to AGI for extra AE attack to hold to arggo in raid or in group fight</strong>any idea ?<div></div>

[Sithal]

Could go Int for 1 point in haste = 22% haste

[BetaMaster]

<DIV>you really don't need the final ability in the wis line... yea it's interesting at first glance but it's not a huge deal when it comes down to it.  So that frees up 8 points that you can put into gladiator's revenge for more avo with a buckler and maybe the dps boost in wis line if u want.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>~Abomidable - Mistmoore</DIV> <DIV>~Lords of the Triple Moons</DIV>

[Sir_Halbarad]

I have to agree... I dont think any final ability is worth the 8 points.I love my build by the way... STA 4,5,8,8WIS 4,4,8,8I tank for my guild and that is a very good combination of mitigation and damage (=hate).Our dps classes can nuke more now and thus the mobs die quicker.Yes, I tank with buckler. Only for nameds or large encounters I use a big shield (and of course for ToS). And when the mobs are debuffed, the buckler returns to my left hand <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Docimodo]

<DIV>For large encounters id keep the buckler on tbh. You get to use the 5% parry from rear and flanking quarters then <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Handy if the Sobs wont stay infront of you</DIV><p>Message Edited by Docimodo on <span class=date_text>08-23-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:53 PM</span>

[BetaMaster]

<DIV>Working with the different avo stats to maximize your tru avoidance can take a bit to get used to but that is a good point... on a lot of mobs the buckler's revenge helps a lot</DIV>

[Memmoch]

My setup is Sta: 5,4,8,8 and Wis: 8,4,4,8.  This has been working great for me so far.  I'm open to suggestions on other setups always though.  I'm trying to find the perfect buckler based setup for a T7 raid MTing tank.  Currently hitting all the content T7. <div></div>

[Scyen]

<DIV>buckler's revenge  seem not worth too spent more then 4 point  ... thats good for green mob , but ... 30sec to fire once look not very nice ...</DIV>

[Sir_Halbarad]

<div><blockquote><hr>Memmoch wrote:My setup is Sta: 5,4,8,8 and Wis: 8,4,4,8.  This has been working great for me so far.  I'm open to suggestions on other setups always though.  I'm trying to find the perfect buckler based setup for a T7 raid MTing tank.  Currently hitting all the content T7. <div></div><hr></blockquote>My STA is capped on every raid... the 5th point in buckler revenge is much more rewarding in my opinion.Oh and my previous poster is not exactly right. It fires more often than once every 30 secs. It fires once per block, parry and deflect in my experience. By you and the mob. That's 5 possible procs in 30 secs I think (mobs that block dont deflect <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )About your points in the wis line... 28 points more wis may be nice... but if you arent capped at 100% dps... maybe 4,4,8,8 in wis may be another option... that's what I have atm.</div>

[Memmoch]

<hr size="2" width="100%">Halbarad wrote:My STA is capped on every raid... the 5th point in buckler revenge is much more rewarding in my opinion.Oh and my previous poster is not exactly right. It fires more often than once every 30 secs. It fires once per block, parry and deflect in my experience. By you and the mob. That's 5 possible procs in 30 secs I think (mobs that block dont deflect <img src="../../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif" border="0" height="16" width="16"> )About your points in the wis line... 28 points more wis may be nice... but if you arent capped at 100% dps... maybe 4,4,8,8 in wis may be another option... that's what I have atm.<hr size="2" width="100%">How does your current setup work for tanking some of the T7's?  Like Harla or Lord Vyrem(sp) or Greniorie(sp)?  I opted for the wis line so that I'd have to swap out less gear to get that resist capped to whatever I needed for whatever fight we're fighting <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>.  I wasn't really worried about DPS or anything but surviveability, and was only going the buckler line for the aggro increase vs. defense loss.  Seemed to me that the amount of aggro gen far outway's the decrease in avoidance.  Did I get it wrong maybe? <span>:smileysurprised:</span><span></span><div></div>

[Zagnut1]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Memmoch wrote:<BR><BR>How does your current setup work for tanking some of the T7's?  Like Harla or Lord Vyrem(sp) or Greniorie(sp)?  I opted for the wis line so that I'd have to swap out less gear to get that resist capped to whatever I needed for whatever fight we're fighting <SPAN>:smileyvery-happy:</SPAN>.  I wasn't really worried about DPS or anything but surviveability, and was only going the buckler line for the aggro increase vs. defense loss.  Seemed to me that the amount of aggro gen far outway's the decrease in avoidance.  Did I get it wrong maybe? <SPAN>:smileysurprised:</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Current Setup:  STA 4/8/8/8   -  WIS 4/4/5/8</P> <P>A buckler is suitable enough for almost every T7 Raid Boss...I usually pull with a Tower Shield equipped (incase I need emergency ToS) and once they are debuffed its back to good ol' Ironfang...I have Tower Shields right next to my ToS button on the hotbar for emergencys...(next to the emergency Cold Forged Breastplate)...</P> <P>Also, I play on nagafen so the buckler reversal is totally badass for pvp...the best is when you bow attack from 35m and its blocked/parried/whatever...and BAM buckler reversal....</P> <P>The 4% avoidance loss is not enough to make me ditch 76% double attack...I have tried a few other AA paths and I keep goin back to STA...</P> <P>~Luke</P>

[Memmoch]

Luke!  lol, I didn't know you trolled these boards too <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> Hmm, might have to try that setup.  I went with the max wis though for overall resists increase both in raid and pvp single groups (or solo!)  Nothing funnier than being up in KoS and having some noob try and gank me cause I'm a guardian only to have me unleash all 76% double-attacking hell I bring! <div></div>