SENTRY WATCH - CHANGE IT!

[laxi26]

<DIV>Is it me or is Sentry watch a very clever little spell that could use some tweaking?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Since alchys can really only make it as ad III it´s expensive to get and I´ve had it for a while now but never used it... why?  Because when you´re in a fight the only time you´d ever really need it is when you get adds and they go straight for your healer.  The healer can always res the wizard so frankly, you let them eat dust :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The problem with the spell is the short duration and requires you to hit it at just the right time and gives you very little space to start hitting the mob that´s on the healer.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Out of the 5 consentration slots we have I only ever use 4, dont know if we even have a spell that would fill the 5th.  I´d really like to see this spell there, you can place it on the toon you want to be sure survives the fight and it stays up until used or cancelled.  This would make it very useful and give you time to hit the mob thereby getting agro back.</DIV>

[SkarlSpeedbu]

I agree, I also have this spell and I have never had a successful outcome with it.  If I am not mistaken this is similar to a templar spell that can be cast to save someone but I don't know if the duration is the same.  I also play a templar, and have never successfully used his spell to any positive affect either.

[TunaBoo]

Make it useful, we already have guardian sphere, don't need a 2nd copy with a weaker effect. Make sentrywatch a blue aoe ressit proof taunt on a 5 or 10 minute timer and it would be the best thing ever.<div></div>

[Sir_Halbarad]

Another Idea for Sentry Watch might be to make it a Group Hate Transfer - maybe transfer x% of group's aggro to the Guardian. (depending on Adept I, III or Master) Make it cost 1 conc so we have a use for our 5th conc point. <div></div>

[MrDiz]

Make it similar to sentry, but instead of intercepting damage as sentry does, it procs a hate (like inflaming defence) that procs hate for the guardian, and moves the target down one place in the hate list. Would be good to cast on reactive healers so that on pull they dont instantly die <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Vulking]

The problem with it and guardian sphere has been, that unless you already had it up(which is rarely), the mobs target has been one shotted or so close to dead that its not going to take the mob much more pounding to finish them off.

[Berek_IronAxe]

I agree.  This CA is a lesser version on the Sphere.  A change to a Concentration ability would be a nice with some different effects-there is several listed in this string that would be good.

[Lyrus]

I wouldn't even say it's a lesser version of guardian sphere since it doesn't block any shots until someone's about to take a death blow, and even then, I've been standing on top of someone practically when they take a death blow with it up and it still didn't save them. This skill needs to be looked at.<div></div>

[Hend]

<P>From test update #18:</P> <P>- Sentry Watch now has a reduced casting time, a larger radius of effect, and a shorter reuse timer.</P> <DIV>I suppose they think they have made it useful now. I haven't had a change to use mine yet, just got it, but from the description it does seem to require a timing that's difficult to get right. Don't remember the current casting time, but a shorter one would help with that timing, in theory.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Vork, 55, guardian</DIV><p>Message Edited by Hendis on <span class=date_text>12-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:43 PM</span>

[Mig]

<blockquote><hr>TunaBoo wrote:Make it useful, we already have guardian sphere, don't need a 2nd copy with a weaker effect. Make sentrywatch a blue aoe ressit proof taunt on a 5 or 10 minute timer and it would be the best thing ever.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Also, we would like a gold rocket car. C'mon man, ask for something realistic. They ain't gonna give us more taunts.

[aislynn00]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Migyb wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TunaBoo wrote:<BR>Make it useful, we already have guardian sphere, don't need a 2nd copy with a weaker effect. Make sentrywatch a blue aoe ressit proof taunt on a 5 or 10 minute timer and it would be the best thing ever.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Also, we would like a gold rocket car. <BR><BR>C'mon man, ask for something realistic. They ain't gonna give us more taunts.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Asking for more and/or improved taunts is the <EM>most</EM> realistic thing to do, considering hate generation is where guardians are the most lacking right now when you look at us in the tanking role.<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Apart from that, we need more utility and/or DPS in order to make our class more appealing to groups and raids alike when we aren't able to tank.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>SOE has recently given us more of such utility in the guise of the improved Guardian Sphere, Plant, as well as Sentry Watch, none of which necessitate that we be tanking.  That said, I still haven't seen anyone interested in inviting a guardian to XP/instance groups or raids because of those, or any other, abilities, in part due to the relatively high reuse times on our combat arts (Plant in particular suffers in that regard; given that it very quickly breaks when the target suffers damage, it should be on a 20 - 30 second timer in order to become more than a highly situational ability), and because the abilities we do bring to the table simply aren't as good as what you would enjoy the benefit of if you invited virtually any other class.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A few suggestions (yet again) any of which would improve guardians immensely:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  o Guardian taunts should all be 100% irresistible, including the reactive procs of Inflaming Defense.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  o All guardian taunts should have their power cost reduced by 50%.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  o Sentry Watch should reactively proc 1500 - 2000 hate (attributed to the guardian) whenever someone is struck during the duration of the buff, as opposed to when they suffer a mortal blow.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  o Alternatively, Sentry Watch should, when cast, lower the hate of everyone in the guardian's group except himself (or perhaps except any fighters) by 1500 - 2000 hate.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  o Plant should have a 20 second reuse time, half the power cost, and twice the range.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  o Tower of Stone shouldn't damage the shield in any way.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  o In addition to its current effect, Vigilance should have a 50% chance of dropping the target one rank on the hate list whenever he or she is hit.  That would make it a pretty useful ability on raids: a guardian in a non-tanking role could cast this on a damage dealer and thus help the main tank (probably not himself, considering the guardian is using a damage transferral ability) recover aggro.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[TunaBoo]

Why not? We have no blue aunt, and much much less aoe agro generation then pre POF. Do PPtR 4 or 5 times with a guardian tank and tell me oranges resisting taunts doesn't make for the most random splats ever.<div></div>