Tanking ROLE = Tanking ability + Utility + DPS + Taunting ability

[ReviloTX]

<DIV>Dev's, please balance the equation for all fighter subclass, thanks.</DIV><p>Message Edited by ReviloTX on <span class=date_text>10-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:35 AM</span>

[Baldaena]

<P>mmm, and what about :</P> <P>Fighter = Tanking ability(mit,avoid,hp,short duration buff) + Taunting ability + Utility + Dps + 'Flavor'</P>

[ReviloTX]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Baldaena wrote:<BR> <P>mmm, and what about :</P> <P>Fighter = ...</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I'm not talking about anything other than balancing my ability to perform my main role in a group.  I could care less about anything else at this point and don't care how fighters flavor gets balanced.  I want my core role to be balanced.  Start your equation with Tanking role =  and then we can talk.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I will give you that taunting effects the tanking role.  I will fix my equation.</DIV><p>Message Edited by ReviloTX on <span class=date_text>10-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:34 AM</span>

[Baldaena]

<DIV>yes, but I think you can't discuss about tanking balance without the other aspects.</DIV> <DIV>I agree that flavor is not currently the core problem (but it's nevertheless a probleme)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Currently soe assume tanking abilty & taunting ability are balanced, why not...  (even if we have problem with our taunt resists & our great ability to be easily stiffled or stuned by mobs), </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ReviloTX wrote:<BR><BR> <DIV>I'm not talking about anything other than balancing my ability to perform my main role in a group.  I could care less about anything else at this point and don't care how fighters flavor gets balanced.  I want my core role to be balanced.  Start your equation with Tanking role =  and then we can talk.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>If you want to talk about your main role in group, you only need to speak about tanking and tauntig and not dps&utility, but the picture won't be complete (In my point of view)<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[ReviloTX]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Baldaena wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV>If you want to talk about your main role in group, you only need to speak about tanking and tauntig and not dps&utility, but the picture won't be complete (In my point of view)<BR> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>See thats exactly where your wrong.  I've explained in numerous threads already how DPS and utility effect the tanking role.  Very simple and quick example:  Self heals.  </P> <P>See my post on page 7 of the guardian issues and suggestion threads stickied above for further explanation (as well as about 50 other posts of mine :smileyvery-happy: ).<BR></P> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And by the way, that appears to be the exact same mistake the dev's made prior to LU13.</DIV><p>Message Edited by ReviloTX on <span class=date_text>10-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:11 AM</span>

[Baldaena]

<DIV> <P>We are saying the same thing, stop playing with words </P> <P> </P></DIV>

[ReviloTX]

Well, you contradicted yourself all in one sentence.  I disputed the part I didn't agree with and ignored the part I did, to make my point.  If you agree that DPS and utility factor into the equation for contributing to a fighters tanking role, then you shouldn't have said they didn't.  I mean, they are either part of the equation or not part of the equation, simple as that. <p>Message Edited by ReviloTX on <span class=date_text>10-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:58 PM</span>