Mitigation, tiers, and armor quality.

[Aar]

<div></div>From my limited experience:  All non bp/leg pieces have the same mitigation. Armor mitigation appears to be strickly based on tier, and quality: (my treasured orc lord arms, rubicite helm, and ebon bracer/gloves share the same 242 mitigation - fulginate crafted are all 202) Handcrafted->treasured->legendary->fabled and T1->T2->T3->t4->t5->t6 Treasured armor for t5 (ebon/rubicite) appear to be equipable at level 38. Crafted feysteel (legendary t4) is marginally better than treasured t5 if I remember comparing my feysteel legs to treasured legs. so....mitigation wise from memory:  crafted t5 (202?)  < t6 crafted (239?)~ treasured t5 (242) ~ legendary t4 (?) < legendary t5 (?) I'm not positive where legendary t4 fits next to t6 crafted/treasured t5 (my only t4 legendary is legs)....The t6 gloves have less mitigation than t5 treasured though.  I think though that legendary t4 is a hair more mitigation than the other two.  there are much bigger jumps between crafted t5 to treasured, and from there to legendary t5. if t6 is similar, then I hypothesize that: crafted t5  < t6 crafted < treasured t5 < legendary t4  < treasured t6 < legendary t5 < legendary t6 The piece or two of treasured t6 I've seen has much better hps though than the legendary t5 stuff.   Didn't see the mitigation on it though, but I'd assume its very close to legendary t5 if it follows the previous pattern. To confirm the layout mitigation wise, can people post/confirm mitigation on non-bp/legs of: 1) t5 crafted (202?) 2) t6 crafted (239?) 3) t5 treasured  (242) 4) t4 legendary  (?) 5) t5 legendary t5 (?) 6) t5 fabled (?) 7) t6 treasured <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> t6 legendary (345) (http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=a7&message.id=3455&query.id=0#M3455) 9) t6 fabled 10) t4 fabled With this information, we could build a comprehensive list of mitigation values, and know simply based on tier and quality how it relates to other pieces. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Aaric on <span class=date_text>09-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:55 PM</span>

[Aar]

ok, for anyone who cares: T4 crafted (157) < T4 treasured (18<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> < T5 crafted (202) < T4 legendary (220) < t6 crafted (237) < t5 treasured (242) < t6 treasured (280/285) ~ t5 legendary(282) still haven't seen where fabled lies, as none of those pieces are on the broker. <div></div>

[Raahl]

You are only taking the mitigation in effect.  What about stats?  Especially the resistances?

[FrostDragon]

I believe he is talking about mitigation for armor vs melee for now  resistance and other factors would be for a another thread.    Please continue your research.  as an artisan and given the new combat system this is very important work.   If somone can do the same for resistance please do so also.     I know i have lost half my resistance also and have seen little on this.      Also is the armor I make worth anyones time given the changes.

[Ragrax]

<DIV>I am especially interested in the mitigation difference between T6 Legendary (cobalt) and T5 Fabled. I have heard yesterday that T6 Legendary has higher mitigation than T5 Fabled. Can anyone confirm this?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This would mean that I have to replace (almost) all fabled armor with cobalt armor to be a better raid tank which in my humble opinion sucks big time.</DIV>

[TunaBoo]

yes cobalt has like 5-8% more ac, but crappy stats, resists, and HP. Really a toss up if you want t5 fabled or t6 legendary... t5 fabled will do for now for me. <div></div>

[Aar]

Ok, only missing t5 fabled, but it should be around 20% better than t5 legendary, so I'll approximate it at 338: T4 crafted (157) < T4 treasured (18<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> < T5 crafted (202) < T4 legendary (220) < T6 crafted (237) < T5 treasured (242) < T6 treasured (280/285) ~ t5 legendary(282) < T5 Fabled (338?) ~ t6 legendary(345) < T6 Fabled (416) <div></div>

[Arsen]

T6 Handcrafted < T5 Tresured Bleh, its true - armorers are going to have to give away Indium.  Cobalt for the win. <div></div>

[RafaelSmith]

Armor is really messed up. -stats/mitigation just dont make any sense...I have T5 rare and even I think its wrong that T6 common is so much worse.  T6 rare is +1 over T5 rare?  [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]? No incentive to upgrade and no incentive for armorers to make upgrades...just all around sucky for everyone involved. -T5 and T6 look the same as if it wasnt bad enough before that every plate class looked the same every 10 levels now were all gonna look the same for 20 levels.  How hard can it be to make Cobalt look yeah imagine that BLUE not BLACK.  Lazy/Sloppy is the only description I can come up with to describe SOE design of armor and armor looks. <div></div>