get aload of this - kite sheilds now better then tower?

[Xti]

heyas in a post by moorgard today detailing the combat revamp it was said that kite shields now block 20% and tower shields now block 15% it is me, or does anyone else see a problem with this? <div></div>

[Gungo]

haha before we all start screaming nerf i think it was a typo when he updated the consolidated list of combate changes. as  far as i know no one has claimed otherwise.  <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>edit: typo's own me too</DIV><p>Message Edited by Gungo on <span class=date_text>09-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:23 PM</span>

[Airog]

Haha, that would OMGSUCKSOBIGDONKYBALLS... but it is probably a typo

[Xti]

<div></div>it better be <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> the whole forum would be lit up with flamewars lol <div></div><p>Message Edited by Xtife on <span class=date_text>09-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:40 PM</span>

[Airog]

Cause it isn't already....

[aaron_borst]

What? A flame in this Forum? never <div></div>

[Mentin]

<P>The change posted on beta was kite and tower shields now block 15%.</P> <P> </P>

[Airog]

<P>aaron_borst:</P> <P>"What? A flame in this Forum? never<BR></P> <P></P> <DIV><A href="http://hierarchy.eq2guilds.org/" target=_blank><IMG src="http://eq2images.station.sony.com/000/000/832/630.jpg" border=0></A></DIV> <DIV>"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>HAHAHA!!</DIV>

[JNewby]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mentin wrote:<BR> <P>The change posted on beta was kite and tower shields now block 15%.</P> <P> </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>uhh thn they didnt fix it... the typo was tower shields are suppost to be 20% and kite are supost to be 15%.... fix it

[Sasaki Koji]

not a typo, Kite and Tower shields block 15%

[JNewby]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sasaki Kojiro wrote:<BR>not a typo, Kite and Tower shields block 15% <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>yeah weak hella nerf

[Airog]

If tower and kite do the same thing, why seperate the two? Stats. If they keep it so Tower and Kite add the same avoidance, the dam well better add MUCH superior stats to tower... or else you will see a bunch of Guards/Zerkers running around in Kite Shields and you will see Fabled Tower shields of no use. They will just be complete junk.

[Shizzirri]

There already junik as it is, I swear half the raids I go on either a fabled tower or kite shield drops talk about a waste of a loot table, if there we're only that sort of selection for ring/wrist items...

[RafaelSmith]

" - The base mitigation value of kite and tower shields has been reduced to 10%." Hehe everytime there is a new beta patch message the effectivness of sheilds goes down and down....cant really go much further before they become useless. And I still dont understand what exactly is the difference now between Kite and Tower besides graphics. <div></div>

[Airog]

<DIV>10% ?!?</DIV>

[Sasaki Koji]

<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#ffcc00>*** Combat Changes ***<BR><BR></FONT>General changes:</STRONG><BR><FONT color=#66ff66><FONT color=#ff0033><STRONG>- Decreased in combat regen of health and power from 1% of max to a fixed value of 1pt / 10 levels (plus any granted from items/spells). <EM><FONT color=#ffffcc>thats harsh. 5pt regen at lvl50......</FONT></EM></STRONG><BR><STRONG>- The base mitigation and avoidance on armor has been reduced. <FONT color=#ffffcc><EM>again heh</EM></FONT></STRONG></FONT><BR></FONT>- Quality (Treasured, Legendary, Fabled, etc.) of armor no longer affects your chances to avoid attacks.<BR><STRONG><FONT color=#ff0033>- Accessories no longer have any physical mitigation. <EM><FONT color=#ffffcc>just stats now <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" width=16 border=0></FONT></EM><BR>- The base parry has been reduced from 20% to 10%. <EM><FONT color=#ffffcc>no comment...</FONT></EM><BR>- NPCs should progress more smoothly in difficulty from green through orange con.<BR>- Small Group, Heroic, and Epic NPCs will now do more damage. <EM><FONT color=#ffffcc>epics with one-shot attacks</FONT><FONT color=#ffffcc> again?</FONT></EM><BR>- The base mitigation value of kite and tower shields has been reduced to 10%. </FONT><FONT color=#ffffcc><EM>mitigation or avoidance??</EM></FONT></STRONG><BR>- The new level 50 to 60 abilities have been assigned their intended levels.<BR>- Charms should now function correctly. If the target cannot be charmed, the spell will not cast.<BR>- Beneficial maintained group spells and arts should now affect a greater area.<BR>- Pets can no longer attack NPCs that you cannot get to yourself.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>now... if warriors didnt have it rough already... Here ya go! more roughness.</DIV>

[Sasaki Koji]

Who here will still use a shield? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 2h weps are getting closer and closer to being choice...

[TunaBoo]

yes shields add 10% avoid, but our base avoid is like 10% now.. so shields double it ;/ <div></div>

[Xti]

holy [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] can we even tank anymore? <div></div>

[Sasaki Koji]

was it really neccesary that they lower our armor mit and avoidance, parry, kite and tower shield, AND increase small group and beyond mob damage at the same time?! thats like, going from taking 100dmg from a lvl30+++mob at lvl30 to taking 400dmg from a lvl30+++ mob at lvl30, and more often. dunno if thats being sarcastic, but this change sounds just as sarcastic. <p>Message Edited by Sasaki Kojiro on <span class=date_text>09-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:03 PM</span>

[Sasaki Koji]

<P>ooooooook.... i was right.... lvl32 single down mob.... me lvl29. slam attacked me for 302, and most every hit was 30-70. [Removed for Content]?!</P> <P>my max HP is at 1512.</P> <P>Avoidance Droped from 44.5 to 27.5: Base 10%, Block 10.1%, Parry 10.5%. . . .</P> <P>Mit droped from 1064 to 864: 29.8%</P> <P>the only Good thing i saw is that mob parry lowered too but... its a freekin solo mob, DOWN TRI at that, and it can hit me for 302. what will a tripple up do? 2000?! sweet i can die in 1 hit, awesome! It was nice how they had it, but they had to screw it up. why ruin the happyness, why?! i mean, i barely survived the lvl32 solo mob with all my life taps, can warriors solo even an even con now?!</P><p>Message Edited by Sasaki Kojiro on <span class=date_text>09-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:39 PM</span>

[JNewby]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sasaki Kojiro wrote:<BR> <P>ooooooook.... i was right.... lvl32 single down mob.... me lvl29. slam attacked me for 302, and most every hit was 30-70. [Removed for Content]?!</P> <P>my max HP is at 1512.</P> <P>Avoidance Droped from 44.5 to 27.5: Base 10%, Block 10.1%, Parry 10.5%. . . .</P> <P>Mit droped from 1064 to 864: 29.8%</P> <P>the only Good thing i saw is that mob parry lowered too but... its a freekin solo mob, DOWN TRI at that, and it can hit me for 302. what will a tripple up do? 2000?! sweet i can die in 1 hit, awesome! It was nice how they had it, but they had to screw it up. why ruin the happyness, why?! i mean, i barely survived the lvl32 solo mob with all my life taps, can warriors solo even an even con now?!</P> <P>Message Edited by Sasaki Kojiro on <SPAN class=date_text>09-07-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>07:39 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>that [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]ing sucks<BR>

[Airog]

Hm, seems they screwed EVERYTHING over there... Hopefully soon there will be a patch that reverses it.