Post combat revamp patch....INT improves spell damage...what about combat arts?

[RandomPlay]

<DIV>From the release notes so far on test, it seems that:</DIV> <DIV>INT boosts caster spell damage</DIV> <DIV>STR boosts melee damage</DIV> <DIV>Player level no longer affects spells/combat arts</DIV> <DIV>Spell and Combat Art tier (apprentice, adept, master) affects everything more</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But two questions on that:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. Does having higher STR only affect auto-attack damage, or does it also boost things like Ferocious Charge and Vindication?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. What about buffs?  Does anything but spell tier cause them to be better or worse?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Mentin]

<P>SOE posted somewere that combat arts are depending on str, spells are depending on int.</P> <P> </P>

[Styk]

Str will affect base weapon dmg, combat arts and dmg rating .... only problem is STR is broken atm on beta and auto attack currently has too high a resist rate <div></div>

[RandomPlay]

<DIV>Thanks for the info.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So it seems STR affects both auto-attack and combat art damage (or at least is intended to).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anybody know for sure if it does anything to buffs, taunts, and other arts that don't do damage?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[-Aonein-]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RandomPlayer wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. What about buffs?  Does anything but spell tier cause them to be better or worse?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Buffs only effect auto attack damage now, nothing else.</DIV>

[Moorgard]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RandomPlayer wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So it seems STR affects both auto-attack and combat art damage (or at least is intended to).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anybody know for sure if it does anything to buffs, taunts, and other arts that don't do damage?</DIV> <DIV><BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Strength affects both auto-attack damage and combat art damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The bug currently on Beta and Test (fix going out in the morning to Beta and later this week on Test) is that the STR bonus wasn't being applied correctly, thus melee damage was quite broken. So any DPS parses for melee damage are tainted, to say the least.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The melee damage of both players and NPCs should be much more meaningful when the bug fix goes in.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for the second part of your question, strength affects only damage--buffs, taunts, and other non-damage spells don't care what your STR is.</DIV>

[Mattim]

What about WIS? :p

[MirageKnight]

<P>This also bring up a question for crusader.</P> <P>I wonder how crusader like SK's art will be affected by INT or STR?</P> <P> </P> <P>Most of cursader arts at high lv is rather arts than spells. Although, new offensive stance for SK only boost INT.</P>

[Sir_Halbarad]

Some classes have spells and combat arts. Crusaders and Bards are the ones I know of (got alts <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) You have 2 tabs, one for spells and one cor combat arts. The spells are affected by INT, the arts by STR. <div></div>

[Jida]

<DIV>Wiz effects resists. Up your INT if you want damage as a healer =)</DIV>

[xAlar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RandomPlayer wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So it seems STR affects both auto-attack and combat art damage (or at least is intended to).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anybody know for sure if it does anything to buffs, taunts, and other arts that don't do damage?</DIV> <DIV><BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Strength affects both auto-attack damage and combat art damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The bug currently on Beta and Test (fix going out in the morning to Beta and later this week on Test) is that the STR bonus wasn't being applied correctly, thus melee damage was quite broken. So any DPS parses for melee damage are tainted, to say the least.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The melee damage of both players and NPCs should be much more meaningful when the bug fix goes in.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for the second part of your question, strength affects only damage--buffs, taunts, and other non-damage spells don't care what your STR is.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>What about pets?  Since a Necromancer or Conjurer relies on her pets to inflict a massive % of her damage, how are we to buff our pet's Strength?  We only get INT buffs, and thus are only getting half of the value of our INT  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Janl]

Don't worry about it.  Our pets are fine.  We are doing wonderful without a STR buff. <div></div>

[MirageKnight]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sir_Halbarad wrote:<BR>Some classes have spells and combat arts. Crusaders and Bards are the ones I know of (got alts <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)<BR><BR>You have 2 tabs, one for spells and one cor combat arts.<BR><BR>The spells are affected by INT, the arts by STR.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This would make SK's offensive stance (which boost only INT, not STR) sounds stupid and pointless except for a few spells. LOL :smileyvery-happy: <DIV>Shouldn't this be STR then instead of INT if that the case? Or SK's arts which have animation of throws spells are considered as spell than arts?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wonder how they really works.</DIV><p>Message Edited by MirageKnight on <span class=date_text>08-30-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:26 AM</span>

[Zanix]

<DIV>I translate this as another SOE attempt to get more people in crafting.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>time = crafting = more $ = better tiered spells = competitive player.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It's already incredibly difficult to compete with players who craft 10+ hours a day and have a large bank account to spend freely. Dropped and quested loot are no where near comparible to current and future crafted items. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I thought one of EQ2's original intentions was to remember the casual gamers?</DIV>

[EvilIguana9]

<span><blockquote><hr>MirageKnight wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Sir_Halbarad wrote:Some classes have spells and combat arts. Crusaders and Bards are the ones I know of (got alts <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)You have 2 tabs, one for spells and one cor combat arts.The spells are affected by INT, the arts by STR. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>This would make SK's offensive stance (which boost only INT, not STR) sounds stupid and pointless except for a few spells. LOL :smileyvery-happy: <div>Shouldn't this be STR then instead of INT if that the case? Or SK's arts which have animation of throws spells are considered as spell than arts?</div> <div> </div> <div>Wonder how they really works.</div><p>Message Edited by MirageKnight on <span class="date_text">08-30-2005</span> <span class="time_text">11:26 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote> The only fair way to handle crusaders would be to make our offensive stance buff both int and str by the same amount every other fighter gets str buffed, and make our spells and arts innately more powerful than any other fighter to make up for the fact that we have to choose between str and int.  </span><div></div>

[Zork Phobos]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moorgard wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> RandomPlayer wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So it seems STR affects both auto-attack and combat art damage (or at least is intended to).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anybody know for sure if it does anything to buffs, taunts, and other arts that don't do damage?</DIV> <DIV><BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Strength affects both auto-attack damage and combat art damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The bug currently on Beta and Test (fix going out in the morning to Beta and later this week on Test) is that the STR bonus wasn't being applied correctly, thus melee damage was quite broken. So any DPS parses for melee damage are tainted, to say the least.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The melee damage of both players and NPCs should be much more meaningful when the bug fix goes in.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for the second part of your question, strength affects only damage--buffs, taunts, and other non-damage spells don't care what your STR is.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Does Strength affect auto-ranged attack damage and ranged combat art damage? Rangers all over norrath are listening <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>