Can't Cancel Entrench.. Please help :-)

[Tro]

<DIV>I tried pulling with this and yea it has a nice range but I was unable to cancel it once the mob was incamp. I did not see a Icon in my buff window. It never shows up.</DIV> <DIV>I have tried this several times and no icon ever appears.. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I will tell you that awhile ago I had two buff windows.. One is the main one (That I currently have up) and the other was on the other side of my screen and seemed to have other icons in it but I cannot for the life of me get that window back. I suspect the entrench Icon is showing up on that one but like I said, that window is not available. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any way to bring that second window back? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance!!</DIV>

[Nazo]

errrr ummm was it ALT + M ?

[Moontayle]

<DIV>Yep, Alt-M. As an aside, you can check this under your Controls tab in Options.</DIV>

[tsaav]

its also toggeable now. just click it again to cancel. <div></div>

[Tro]

Good deal!.. Thanks a bunch folks.. Apprecaite it..

[danmurph3]

I am yet to use Entrench, can some please tell me a case where this would be useful, or is it only useful in pulling? <div></div>

[JeffBship]

<P>Entrench slows a mobs attack rate significantly.  It's very useful to use on a boss mob to pull, and leave it on while killing all the smaller ones....the boss hits you less while you are fighting the others.  I use it almost anytime I'm fighting a group on the mob that I intend to kill last.  Just remember to cancel it before you start fighting that mob because it also greatly increases the mobs mitigation.</P> <P>And of course it has more range than your bow for pulling.</P>

[danmurph3]

Tried it out for the first time today, its nice. I definately like the long range pull with it, just worried I will think I have canceled it but not actually do.  Only other problem I have with it is the concentration slot it takes, I generally use all 5 for my intervene and Slate's Protective Stance (Yes I use that over Dig In because it doesn't slow you down or reduce your combat stats)  Still very nice for pulling. <div></div>

[Tro]

<P>Ok ALT-M worked.. Got the second window to show up and the entrench icon was on that one.. Now I have to ask.. What is the purpose of that second buff window? It has some of the icons that are on the primary buff window.. Why do some icons show up (Entrench) on the second buff window and not the primary?</P> <P>BTW, I am impressed with the range Entranch has for pulling.. I did some testing with my 35M bow and even though it seems to pull from a longer distance, I dont believe it is a whole further than 35M.  Maybe 40M but I dont think 50M</P> <P>And <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=28153" target=_blank><SPAN>tsaavik</SPAN></A>, Once I hit the Entrench ICon, it goes off.. I was unable to immedately click it again to cancel it because of the reuse timer.. also, if you think about it, all clicking it again does is Que it to fire again so I guess I am not understanding what I am suppose to click again immedately to cancel Entrench.. With the Icon now showing up, I just right click that and cancel that way..</P> <P>Thanks all</P> <P><BR> </P> <P> </P> <P>Message Edited by Trook on <SPAN class=date_text>07-28-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>04:13 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Trook on <span class=date_text>07-28-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:13 AM</span>

[MastikFantastik]

<DIV>Another use for entrench, is to drain the mobs power down.  Yes the ac boost is significant  but for example while I fight the arena champ I entrench him right off the start until I drain off all his power. The slow that it has along with properly time stuns, stifleing attacks etc.. really help for this kill seeing that he uses specials often enough to take down guardians easily while he has the power.  When he has power he becomes much easier, not a complete push over but much easier. So keep him entrenched at least until he has no power.  As for raid mobs etc... if the group/raid is heavy in melee dps then when you are down to that mob cancel it or it will hurt you in the long run.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also  as a side note a technique I used while in the arena 1 time to win was just for kicks was to melee the champ with Entrench on until out of power then I kept it on and kied it using my bow, and the occasional special.  It took a bit because of the ac boost but bow procs were un effected in dmg (magic based) but when this fight was over I sitting at 80% hp.  Just something to trry.</DIV>

[Tro]

<P>Hmmmm I must have the wrong idea as to how Entrench works.. I thought it snared the mob, Slowed its attack spped and increased its AC a ton..I have not seen anywhere that says it also drains power or, are you saying while it is entrenched you use Batter line spells to drain power? </P> <P>Also, how much does it slow the mob (What % slow is it)? and with the snare component, I tested this and I believe it is broke. I found a linked group of 3 mobs, cast it on one and all three of course came after me. My intent was to watch as they were running after me to see if the one I cast entrench on actually lagged behind the other two.. It did not.. They all stayed together chasing me.. </P> <P>It did not resist. I tried it like 4 more times and I never saw that it was resisted but, all three kept together so does the 16% snare really work?. Anyone else see this?</P>

[MastikFantastik]

<DIV>As for the draining power, no entrench doesn't so yes I am using batter line spells , deafanign taunt etc..  which all do. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for the snare I have noticed a slow on the mobs movement rate at least in the arena.  un snared the mob keeps pace with me (or possibly runs faster) while its entrenched it is slower then me.  As for the %'ages it's all the level of what you have it at.  AppI - IV, adept 1-III.  Mine is adept 1 currently and seems to work great.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Tro]

ok .. Thanks a bunch .. appreciate the info..

[Damagema]

<P></P> <HR> <P>As for the draining power, no entrench doesn't so yes I am using batter line spells , deafanign taunt etc..  which all do.</P> <P></P> <HR> <P>I to use the deafening taunt.  Could you please list the other abilities in the "batter line"?</P> <P>Are they all on the same timer?</P> <P>Thxs,</P> <P>Dmg</P> <P> </P> <P><BR></P>