Grant defense to others?

[Urglu]

<DIV>The latest quote on upcoming changes was "Guardians will have the greatest capability to grant their defense to others."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Speculation is usually unhealthy, but I am a bit concerned.  Is this just like it currently is, where our defense buffs simply buff the whole group? Or have they nerfed it so we can only buff others by giving up our own defense?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If it is the latter, I am not going to be a happy camper.  </DIV>

[Sazzabi8]

He could just be talking about the sentinel/safeguard/sentry line of spells granting our "defense" <div></div>

[ThramFalc]

<P>I think it references our protection spells.  </P> <P>My prediction:</P> <P>We will get severly nerfed and will have to rely on our protection spells, but because they do not work well all guardians will get angry and complain.  After 2 months of complaining these spells will be made more useful and guardians will feel better.  Patience will be key.</P> <P>I'm more curious about each fighter getting a certain resistance thing... does this mean magic resist or melee resist too?  Whoever is better at crushing, poison, heat and cold will have an edge I would think.</P>

[Raahl]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sazzabi8 wrote:<BR>He could just be talking about the sentinel/safeguard/sentry line of spells granting our "defense"<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>That's the way I'm reading it.</P> <P>What worries me is that Beserkers do their DPS when being the MT. </P> <P></P> <P> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr> <P></P> <HR> <P>Moorgard wrote:</P> <P>Berserkers will do more damage than guardians, especially when tanking. While they also have taunts, part of their taunting comes from the damage they do.</P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>So does this mean that Beserkers will only be used as MT's in Raids and Guardians will be used to "grant their defense" to the Beserker?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also what do these changes mean to our soloability? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm hoping there is a lot more information that we have not been given yet.</DIV>

[Raahl]

<P>Are they killing the Guardian class?</P> <P>We do less DPS than any other fighter type.  And other fighters will be able to tank close to what we can.</P> <P>Again we don't have the full picture yet, though I am really worried about the future of my Guardian.</P>

[Halade]

<P>In addition to some of our skills bieng passed around to other tanks and our group defensive capability, it sounded like we were going to get more taunts too.  I'm more interested than concerned about the upcoming revamp due to some of the other statements moorgard has made about tanking roles becoming more 'situational'.  We already know our HP buffs aren't going to stack anymore, and additionally moorgard suggested that 'stances' (ie WoW) will be introduced...  </P>

[Raahl]

<P>Stances were also in Horizons.</P> <P>It's an interesting concept.  Stances may help balance things out.</P>

[Kurg]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raahl wrote:<BR> <P>Stances were also in Horizons.</P> <P>It's an interesting concept.  Stances may help balance things out.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Excuse this question, but  .... what are "Stances" ? some sort of combat-art ?</FONT>

[Nazo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raahl wrote:<BR> <P>Are they killing the Guardian class?</P> <P>We do less DPS than any other fighter type.  And other fighters will be able to tank close to what we can.</P> <P>Again we don't have the full picture yet, though I am really worried about the future of my Guardian.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Having the least DPS is our greatest security no worries :smileywink: As for the future any fighter should be worried about his/her future because 90% of the Fighters have just been made redundant. No IF's or BUT's about it....

[Raahl]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kurgor wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raahl wrote:<BR> <P>Stances were also in Horizons.</P> <P>It's an interesting concept.  Stances may help balance things out.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Excuse this question, but  .... what are "Stances" ? some sort of combat-art ?</FONT> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Stances typically are abilities that trade something for something else.  I'd expect it to be a combat art.</P> <P>One might, trade DPS for more Defense.</P> <P>The other might, trade Defense for more DPS.</P> <P>So if a paladin wants to tank a bit more he can trade DPS for more Defense.  Or if a Guardian wants to do more damage he can trade Defense for DPS.</P> <P>Hope that explains it well enough for you.</P>

[Jay]

Monks already have stances, and don't we have at least one (Soldier's Stance) that you can choose to use to boost defense at the cost of offense? So I could see this concept being expanded to give us more versatility, which could be very cool. For those that cry foul at the thought of anyone intruding on our territory, this is an example of how we may be granted a bit of someone else's turf. Say what you will about monks, but they're the most adaptable tank class out there, IMO, and stances could grant us a bit more of that.

[Raahl]

Yea we do, but what about granting defense to others.  I'm thinking this is not a stance but just our normal buffs.  Ally, intervene, etc.

[a6eaq]

<HR> Raahl wrote: <DIV> <DIV>So does this mean that Beserkers will only be used as MT's in Raids and Guardians will be used to "grant their defense" to the Beserker?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also what do these changes mean to our soloability? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm hoping there is a lot more information that we have not been given yet. <HR> </DIV></DIV> <P>Well my friends and I think things are going to be flip-flopped from ya in reguards to MTing.  We think that our protection spells will relocate us to off tanking in normal groups while we protect the Zerker who is MT due to their higher DPS.  Our better defense means we can pick up the adds without the healers having a heart attack or blowing their power on healing us and the MT.  We can survive longer without help than anyone else can.  If a zerker is OT they do not have the defense that we do so their health does tend to drop faster than ours would, this is just my experience.  We also think that the Guardian will be the MT for Raids due to our high damage mitigation/avoidance.  We could withstand the beatings longer than any other fighter class and therefore should be facing down the 57^^^ vice anyone else.  The other fighter classes, save the Pallies, will be able to chew thru the adds faster than we will ever be able to do, no offense Pallies just interpretting Moorguards posts.  In a raid, and I admit I do not have tons of XP in this department, the other fighters will clear out all the adds while we will keep the attention of the boss.  After everything else is dead, the entire attention of the raiding party turns to the boss and we beat him down.</P> <P>As for soloability, I think we are gettin the short end of the stick on this end.  I could be wrong, I hope I am wrong!  I like to solo writs and such to get a little time alone.</P> <P>I just hope the devs put a lot of time into thinking this through and really test it out before going live.  We will just have to wait and see how this all plays out.</P>