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Sirrion77
06-21-2005, 06:08 PM
<DIV> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>The goal of this post is to explain how I’m Main tank and how you guys do it so we can exchange ideas (see what I do wrong=) and get the most efficient possible. I’m interested in all fighter abilities to see what combo we could get=).</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><U><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT></U> </P> <P><U><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Buffs:</SPAN></FONT></U></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-       Hp, STA/STR, Mitigation rare potions.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-       Hp food.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>It takes me 5 minutes to get fully self buffed as I use all Tier hp buffs (need to wait 1 minute for each). Defense doesn’t stack, but HPs do.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Battle Tactics</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN> (lvl 19): group +170ish HP</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><B><SPAN>Do or Die</SPAN></B><SPAN> (lvl 33) : group +300ish HP</SPAN></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><B><SPAN>Return to Battle</SPAN></B><SPAN> (lvl 47): group +370ish HP +8 defence buff. +23 Str</SPAN></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Braksan’s desperate Rally</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN> (trait): group +363 HP increase group resist crushing by 339</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Call of Protection</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN> (lvl 3<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />: add to group Defense +13</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Bristeblade’s command </SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>(Trait): add to group STA +19</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=1><SPAN>Call to Battle</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=1><SPAN> : self +5 parry  Group +15 Slashing/Piercing/Crushing</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Fortified Stance</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN> (lvl 44): self add:  defense +10 but snare for 20% (no long pulls possible).</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Passive trait</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>: +5 defense</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>-<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN>          </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Iron conviction</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>: +50 hp</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>In total: +1500hp (+2000 if i include potions) +27 defense</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>With troubadour/templar/shaman/warden/berserker in the group easily hit the 10k hp and 303 defense (whatever items you have).</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>For resists encounter, 9khp and 5k+ resist (5k resist = 100% resist for lvl 50 mob).</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Before the pull I also make sure I have those stats above and 100% avoidance (close to the warden where i'm going to pull).</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>I generally time my buffs with 10 sec interval them, so it’s easier to rebuff during the fight in case I get stuned trying to refresh a defense buff. This allow me to be always at max stats.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P><U><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Epic mob engage:</SPAN></FONT></U></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Bow/arrow up to hit ASAP (even if I’m not the puller), first dmg hit (hp or power) give huge hate at the start, if berserk hit first with their abilities, bye bye…</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Then <B><SPAN>Deafen</SPAN></B> (highest range / highest hate taunt) followed by <B><SPAN>Commanding Presence</SPAN></B> (Highest hate, group STA/HP and melee resist buff). If the mob is still not on me (rarely) I use Rescue (30 minutes timer but always hope to be able to keep for later) which put me at the top of the hate list (not always</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings size=2><SPAN>L</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>).</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>As soon as it’s on me, I make sure I get the barrage then move the mob around to the right position (closer if healer rooted for buffs) to be sure to be in range for instant heals and others then strafe/turn the mob so i face the crowd and cast Hold the line. During that time I also spam my agro abilities.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN><U>Abitilies spamming during the fight:</U></SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>I never use my DPS abilities, only the ones with highest hate:</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Deafen</SPAN></FONT></B></P> <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Vindication</SPAN></FONT></B></P> <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Taunting Challenge</SPAN></FONT></B></P> <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Vengefull Strike</SPAN></FONT></B></P> <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Overwelm</SPAN></FONT></B></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>With allowing 2 sec pause between those skills, I constantly spam them and rarely loose agro.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>They are cheap in power so i stay always Full power most of the time.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><U><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT></U> </P> <P><U><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>When in trouble:</SPAN></FONT></U></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>As soon as my bar is orange I use:</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Switch to <STRONG>range attack</STRONG> so i avoid ripostes.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Straggering slam</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>: slam stun</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Commanding Presence</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>: to max stats.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN><SPAN>Anchor: </SPAN>Adds 1500 resist to all melee types, slows me for 15% (description of this spell is very hard to understand)<BR></SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>If the bar is red I then use <B><SPAN>Hunker down</SPAN></B>: Stifle self (which make me loose hate) and add 8 defense. I take it off as soon as I’m out of the red.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Any comments will be appreciated.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Sirriun</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>

Subtlekni
06-21-2005, 06:48 PM
<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Sirrion77 wrote:<div></div> <div> <p><u><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>When in trouble:</span></font></u></p><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Straggering slam</span></font></b>: slam stun <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span><font color="#ff0000">You can interrupt lvl 50 + x4's with this, which is good, but I don't think stun works.</font> </span></font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span><span>Anchor: </span>Adds 1500 resist to all melee types, slows me for 15% (description of this spell is very hard to understand)</span></font></p> <p><font color="#ff0000" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Are you sure about this? From my experience this isn't what it does.  The resists are added to the mob, as is the slow. </span></font></p> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>If the bar is red I then use <b><span>Hunker down</span></b>: Stifle self (which make me loose hate) and add 8 defense. I take it off as soon as I’m out of the red.</span></font></p> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span><font color="#ff0000">To my knowledge hunker down does not stack with the spells you are using in the list above.  Maybe someone with a GUI  hack can tell me I'm wrong though.</font> </span></font></p> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </p></div><hr></blockquote></span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Subtleknife on <span class=date_text>06-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:48 AM</span>

Macross_JR
06-21-2005, 11:54 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Subtleknife wrote:<BR> <SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sirrion77 wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR><BR> <P><U><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>When in trouble:</SPAN></FONT></U></P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>Straggering slam</SPAN></FONT></B>: slam stun<BR> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN><FONT color=#ff0000>You can interrupt lvl 50 + x4's with this, which is good, but I don't think stun works.</FONT><BR></SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN><SPAN>Anchor: </SPAN>Adds 1500 resist to all melee types, slows me for 15% (description of this spell is very hard to understand)<BR></SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2><SPAN>Are you sure about this? From my experience this isn't what it does.  The resists are added to the mob, as is the slow.<BR></SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN>If the bar is red I then use <B><SPAN>Hunker down</SPAN></B>: Stifle self (which make me loose hate) and add 8 defense. I take it off as soon as I’m out of the red.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN><FONT color=#ff0000>To my knowledge hunker down does not stack with the spells you are using in the list above.  Maybe someone with a GUI  hack can tell me I'm wrong though.</FONT><BR></SPAN></FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></SPAN> <P>Message Edited by Subtleknife on <SPAN class=date_text>06-21-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>07:48 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I'm pretty sure what he was talking about with Anchor is he cast's it on himself for the added mitigation.  This buff has a dual purpose to it, a) you can cast it on yourself for the mitigation(really, I know we like dps and all but we should work on taunts) or b) cast it on a named mob to slow it as you work on the adds first, then cancel it before you take on the named.<BR>

Venomo
06-22-2005, 12:27 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE>I'm pretty sure what he was talking about with Anchor is he cast's it on himself for the added mitigation.  This buff has a dual purpose to it, a) you can cast it on yourself for the mitigation(really, I know we like dps and all but we should work on taunts) or b) cast it on a named mob to slow it as you work on the adds first, then cancel it before you take on the named.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>You can't cast anchor on yourself, sorry a bit confused with what you mean by this. I though anchor was mob target only, slows the mobs attack speed whilst buffing mobs ac etc???<BR>

Sirrion77
06-22-2005, 02:36 AM
well when i cast it I get slowed for 15%+ (verified at 100%) and the description only talked about the target, so i assume the target is yourself... Sirriun <div></div>

Zilasak
06-22-2005, 02:42 AM
It slow / snare the mob and buff his mitigation, it's more a pulling / offtank tool, then a buff. Anyway you can't cast it on yourself.

jreed
06-22-2005, 09:59 AM
there is at least ONE fight i can think of that you want to be spamming all the group buffs you have....can you name that fight in 2 notes? <div></div>

Nazo
06-22-2005, 11:00 AM
Use Anchor only for pulling because it adds like zillions of mitigation to the mob. Having said that there are exceptions. When your pull includes more then one named keep Anchor up on the one that is currently NOT being killed :smileywink:

Venomo
06-22-2005, 02:12 PM
thats exacly the way i use it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> or if im mt'ing the named while dps are clearing adds, as far as im concerned the attack slow is more important to keep me alive until the dps or on the mob. Would be nice as a self buff though, id take that extra ac any day lol

Nazo
06-28-2005, 04:38 PM
Who wouldnt :smileyvery-happy: