Question about old armor...

[AcidChrist]

<DIV>Now, i know about mentoring and all.  The question that comes to mind is, should i keep my old weapons and jewelry for when i mentor someone?  just a thought, thanks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Think Essence.  Think Butterbean.</DIV>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> AcidChrist wrote:<BR> <DIV>Now, i know about mentoring and all.  The question that comes to mind is, should i keep my old weapons and jewelry for when i mentor someone?  just a thought, thanks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Think Essence.  Think Butterbean.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I think.."no".  The Mentoring FAQ that SoE put out intially indicated that your armor, bling and weapons would act like similar armor, bling and weapons from the tier you were mentoring - they scale down.  They also indicated that if you had uber stuff - it would behave as uber or fabled stuff from the tier you were mentoring.</P> <P>What DOESN"T scale down are your spells.  Although I'd love to mentor when asked - I find I can't do it at a moment's notice...I have to go back, find the spells for the level in question, and make a new hotbar with them cause the ones I have up currently won't work.  You have to go back to the exact spells for the mentor-ee in question.  For this reason, I'll only mentor younger guildies or friends...cause it's a pain to go and figure out what will work so you are not stuck without a heal or damage spell in the middle of stuff,<BR></P>

[Meadso]

<P>Have to disagree with Arielle,</P> <P>I recently mentored down to 15 with my dirge and found that, my armour did nothing at all because at level 15 scouts cannot wear medium armour (having no skill in its use). So in effect I was naked and it really hurt. Knowing this, for my Guardian I kept my set of medium armour for such occasions. </P> <P>So yes - if you want to mentor below 20 then do keep your armour. Wearing the same jewelry and weapons is fine though since you already had the skills to use those pre-20 and thus they do scale down. </P>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Meadsong wrote:<BR> <P>Have to disagree with Arielle,</P> <P>I recently mentored down to 15 with my dirge and found that, my armour did nothing at all because at level 15 scouts cannot wear medium armour (having no skill in its use). So in effect I was naked and it really hurt. Knowing this, for my Guardian I kept my set of medium armour for such occasions. </P> <P>So yes - if you want to mentor below 20 then do keep your armour. Wearing the same jewelry and weapons is fine though since you already had the skills to use those pre-20 and thus they do scale down. </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Wow, this is good to know...  I wasn't answering out of experience, but out of what I remember the mentoring system FAQ said.  I specifically remember it said 'if you had x armor, it would scale to the level..that it would act like armor from the tier you were mentoring..'  </P> <P>Just cause they said that was what would happen..doesn't mean it would (as we have seen with many other SoE things - like one bunch of people isn't talking to the other as far as continuity is concerned...)</P> <P>Out of curiosity, Mead, you are sure that your armor was as if you were not wearing anything, or was it acting like the light armor you could wear at that level (which would be the scale down thing) and you are used to a certain amount of mitigation?  I'd really like to know this - seems like mentoring isn't worth it if you can't actually help!</P> <P>Also, you didnt have the skill to wear your jewelry, cause it's based on Magic Affinity, which is based on level.  It would have to scale down too, but you shouldn't have to change it out?</P> <P>I'm curious now!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P>

[Computer MAn]

I was grouping with a guild mate on my under 20 alt and I remember seeing all his heavy armor having 0 migitation so I believe it is true <div></div>

[Meadso]

<P>Arielle, </P> <P>Yeah my medium was acting like it was literally not there at all; my mitigation was almost zero (but not quite because I did have jewelry on). [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] those sonic shriekers can really hurt you when you are fighting them naked at level 14 :smileyhappy:</P> <P>As to the magic affinity for jewelry - yeah these do scale down since at level 15  (for example) you have do the magic affinity as a skill (I think - I'll have to check when I get home ) and therefore your level 25 ring would just become a level 15 ring.</P> <P>The problem realy only occurs when you mentor down to below the sub-class level for certain classes only ie those classes whose armour type changes at this level. So all the robe wearers, brawlers, remain unaffected since they see no change at level 20 to the armour types they will be mostly be using.</P> <P> </P>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Meadsong wrote:<BR> <P>Arielle, </P> <P>The problem realy only occurs when you mentor down to below the sub-class level for certain classes only ie those classes whose armour type changes at this level. So all the robe wearers, brawlers, remain unaffected since they see no change at level 20 to the armour types they will be mostly be using.</P> <P> </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>That makes sense...however...it kind of blows the point of the mentor thing, and may be a bug.  I specifically remember the description of mentoring saying that your armor would scale down..not become completely transparent if heavy armor is below the subclass level (ie, below 20).  If I wasn't so lazy, I'd look that up and paste it here  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>I found it!  This is a cut and paste right from the 'mentoring' page on the website:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"When you Mentor another player, all maintained spells will be dropped from your character. <STRONG><FONT color=#009999>The effectiveness of your gear will scale down to the same level as your Apprentice.</FONT></STRONG> You will function as if you really are the same level as your Apprentice, so you need to use spells and arts that are appropriate for that level."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What this says to ME is...even if you are a heavy armor wearing lvl 50 Guardian, and you mentor a lvl 18 Warrior, your pristine imbued ebon armor will scale down to the effectiveness of medium/chain mail armor...but the better stat stuff.  Not 'disappear entirely' from Mitigation.  Having to keep a bag full of gear to be able to mentor someone is just silly, IMO, and isn't doing what they said it would do.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think it's a /bug.  Not like it'll be fixed, but it's good to know.</DIV>

[Oakwood]

<P>I have done it, and my armor all dropped to 0 mitigation if you mentor to level 19 or lower.  Level 20+, it doesnt drop to zero, but it does go way lower that you would expect if the item becomes red to you (blackened alloy breastplate droped from 320ish to 15 mitigation when i mentored to 21, iirc).  Unless this gets reworked, you will need to carry armor for each level range you plan to mentor for.  People that ask me to mentor, I ask if the have a spare set of unatuned gear, or if they have another tank.  My weapons still work, and CAs do level appropriate damage, but i cannot tank while mentoring unless there are 3 healers in the  group.</P>