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Wissp
04-24-2005, 11:38 AM
<div></div><div></div><div></div>Hi all - I just noticed that although it appears that all of the default skills are accounted for in Mirianna's awesome compilation we have overlooked a major resource in the bonus skills that are available. Here are the ones that I personally use and how they compare to the main skillset : 1.  Slate's Invigorating Threat vs.  Taunting Challenge @ Adept 1              Power:    48 vs 37       Recast:  seperate reuse timers !! - corrected by Rorrak - thanks!       Skill:        Protection maxed at 200 vs. 173       Benefits:  Increase Mitigation of Caster vs Crushing, Slashing, and Piercing by 126  ---  Taunting Challenge has no increase                        Inflicts 57-96 melee damage vs. 44-73                        Decrease targets DPS by 5%  vs. no decrease                        Increase Threat by 411 vs. 337       Comments:  The benefits here are obvious - better damage mitigation, slows targets damage dealing, and better aggro mgmt.                             I don't personally use taunting challenge, but if you're low on power might want to have it handy 2.  Slate's Steely Resolve vs. Iron Conviction (only have app 1 of this since I never bothered to upgrade it, someone post it?)       Power:    128 vs. 116  (not really vital since this is a 10 minute buff)       Recast:    shared reuse timer - 5 minutes  - unsure of stat stacking - Slate's is 10 min. vs. 15 min for Iron Conviction       Skill:         Protection maxed at 250 vs. 263       Benefits:   Increases STA and STR of caster by 23 (@ lvl 4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> vs. STA only increase of 21 (again only apprentice 1 level)       Comments:  HUGE benefit to a fighter - the strength bonus is one of the best I've seen for fighter self buffs                             Not sure if these benefits stack or not, but I imagine that they do not - can someone verify?                            Also it would be nice to know the Adept 3 STA bonus for Iron Conviction if someone knows it                            and also if it adds any new benefit. 3.  This comparison is slightyly more complicated because of the various combat situations that occur, and so I will seperate       each of these skills and list their stats for you to compare in the order of how beneficial I find them :      A)  Fortifed Stance (only have apprentice 2 atm)            Power :    72            Recast :  shared 3 minute reuse timer - all of these use 3 concentration so cannot be stacked            Skill:         Protection maxed at 272            Benefits:   Increase caster defense by 8                              Increase mitigation of caster vs. slashing and piercing by 96                              Increase mitigation of caster vs. crushing by 192             Downside:  Decreases slashing, piercing, and crushing of caster by 7                                 Slows caster movement by 20%            Comments:  This is the stance I use for most battles unless I am confident that I can defeat the target easily                                  as the added mitigation is a huge advantage.      B)  Slate's Protective Stance            Power :    48            Recast: see above            Skill:         Protection maxed at 150                       Benefits:  Increases Parry and Defense of caster by 7            Comments:  I use this as my travel stance as it does not decrease my movement speed, or if I'm in a fairly low aggro                                  area I use this because it doesn't lower my attack ratings        C)  Dig In (Adept 1)  -- for comparison purposes              Power :  63              Recast : same              Skill:       Protection maxed at 203                           Benefits : Increase defense of caster by 8 (@ lvl 4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />                               Increase mitigation of caster vs. all physical damage by 84                  Downsides : Slows caster movement by 18%                                    Decreases crushing, slashing, and piercing by 6              Comments :  I post this for comparison purposes as I now use Fortified Stance exclusively for MTing         D)  Soldier's Stance (Adept 3)  -- again for comparison -- this is the only Adept 3 I have so I thought it would be informative               Power:  43                Recast: same               Skill :  Tactics maxed at 130                               Benefits : Increase parry of caster by 4                                Increase defense of caster by 6               Downsides:  Decreases caster slashing, piercing, and crushing by 4               Comments:  As you can clearly see the Adept 3 level of this skill becomes quite useless once you move up 2-3 levels                                    I would highly recommend picking up Slate's Protective Stance over Soldier's Stance when the option                                    presents itself - I still use Slate's at lvl 48 and predict I will still use it through my 50's when that is opened up. I hope this information is useful to you all -- I will most likely repost this in a seperate thread to be added to by everyone and corrected if necessary. Good Ventures to you all! ~Malikai~ 48 Guardian Faydark<div></div><p>Message Edited by Wissper on <span class="date_text">04-24-2005</span> <span class="time_text">12:39 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Wissper on <span class=date_text>04-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:33 PM</span>

Rorrak
04-26-2005, 12:28 AM
<P>Good post, very informative.  Just one small correction:</P> <P>Slate's Invigorating Threat and Taunting Challenge do not share a timer.  I have had both of them on my hotbar for many levels and use them back to back daily, they're on seperate timers.</P> <P>- Rorrak</P>

Wissp
04-26-2005, 05:31 AM
Thanks for the info update !  I never checked after I looked at the skills and they seemed to be along the same skill line (and the icons threw me off a bit too )  I'll edit the correction in. ~Malikai~ <div></div>

Nexxiss
05-05-2005, 08:41 PM
<P>U rock , thx uts just what i needed to read!</P> <P> </P> <P>Nexuss</P> <P>20 Guardian <grobb></P>