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noexi19
04-12-2005, 04:11 AM
Are shields essential? Or do you picture guardians as 2 handed weps and dual wielders? I'm of the mindset that a guardian without a shield is like a house without walls. The dual wiled and 2hand theme looks more like a berserker's choice to me. Cosmetically, yeah play what you want (saw a gnome guardian the other day,) but the flipside is if you're suppsoed to be a meat-shield, it would make sense to have as much armor as possible. Heck, the word itself has shield in it. Plus, the hallmark item you get is a shield too, that is good even even 10 levels up.

Wado
04-12-2005, 04:15 AM
<DIV>Grinding, if you have a couple nice duel-wield or a nice 2h you can use those and be fine in most situations. For epic mobs though the extra mitigation always helps <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

Ashtaro
04-12-2005, 04:38 AM
<DIV>I'm not going to give up near 10% avoidance for anything, unless I'm not MT.</DIV>

Oakwood
04-12-2005, 08:01 AM
depends.  for soloing or duoing, i dual wield for the dps.  in groups, it depends on the mob.  the yard trash gets the dual wield, tough mobs get the shield.  I keep an eye on the healer power.  If he gets lower that me, i know it's time to pop out the cofee table

Wabit
04-12-2005, 12:15 PM
<DIV>i very rarely use a shield at lvl 50, my normal buffs bring my normal avoidance to 60.2% solo with cedar tower and 1H my avoid is 66.7%...  i'm not in all ebon gear (BP and pants), got a cedar bow, and no hex dolls...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>times i use a shield are on castertype named (love the extra stun), epic (duh), and if i'm exploring a new zone (better safe than missing a shard)...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>if i'm in a dps heavy group my fabled 2H keeps agro alot better then 1H and shield...  now if it only had a proc :smileysurprised:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>most ppl look at me like i'm silly for not useing a shield most of the time but after lvl 40, PGT spoiled me...  then again i use Desperate Rush releguosly (sp?)...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>this style of play isn't for everyone...  and most every mob in the game is a trash mob to me at this lvl...  its a personl goal to see how high i can get my agi...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>also instances like NC lvl 50 zone i use shield, just cause of funny agro in there...  pulled one of the enterance mobs, it ran through the wall and came out through a different door and brough 5^^ yellow friends with him...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wabit</DIV>

Timzil
04-12-2005, 06:07 PM
I'm a dual wielding gnome guardian <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> PGT and something else at the moment.

Tomanak
04-13-2005, 12:30 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> noexi1982 wrote:<BR><BR>Plus, the hallmark item you get is a shield too, that is good even even 10 levels up.<BR><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Not true, as a Qeynosian Guardian I got a 2 handed weapon for mine.</P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P>

Banditman
04-13-2005, 12:35 AM
A crappy 2H at that.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

AsheM
04-13-2005, 01:28 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Wabit wrote:<BR> <DIV>i very rarely use a shield at lvl 50, my normal buffs bring my normal avoidance to 60.2% solo with cedar tower and 1H my avoid is 66.7%...  i'm not in all ebon gear (BP and pants), got a cedar bow, and no hex dolls...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>times i use a shield are on castertype named (love the extra stun), epic (duh), and if i'm exploring a new zone (better safe than missing a shard)...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>if i'm in a dps heavy group my fabled 2H keeps agro alot better then 1H and shield...  now if it only had a proc :smileysurprised:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>most ppl look at me like i'm silly for not useing a shield most of the time but after lvl 40, PGT spoiled me...  then again i use Desperate Rush releguosly (sp?)...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>this style of play isn't for everyone...  and most every mob in the game is a trash mob to me at this lvl...  its a personl goal to see how high i can get my agi...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>also instances like NC lvl 50 zone i use shield, just cause of funny agro in there...  pulled one of the enterance mobs, it ran through the wall and came out through a different door and brough 5^^ yellow friends with him...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wabit</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Nailed it on the head.  This is exactly the way I play.  I use my fabled Archons Great Flail when soloing or in groups.  I pretty much only break out the cedar tower when it's a named/epic etc.<BR>

Styk
04-13-2005, 01:36 AM
Tomanak Freeport Guardians get a shield as there class reward.... Qeynos ones get shafted <div></div>

Kryog
04-13-2005, 01:31 PM
<P>Duetting/Soloing I usually fight blues and greens in droves and go with my trusty SSoY / SBD combo.   When main tank and fighting named mobs, I always ALWAYS carry a shield.   The benefits are extremely noticable.</P> <P> </P>

Lithium0
04-13-2005, 02:18 PM
<P> </P> <P> At 47 I'm mainly using Heritage Crook for xp grp's /solo etc for the added dps and nice aggro...and swap in a shield for some of the tougher mobs. </P> <P> Will possibly go more 1her + shield when get round to getting bloodfire</P> <P> </P> <P> Scamp</P> <P>47 Gnome Guardian</P> <P>Najena</P> <P> </P>

Mig
04-13-2005, 10:29 PM
Any guardian, male or female should not be using a stick to beat on mobs...i don't care how ubah it is. It's just wrong! Spend the money and get your claymore done!

SilvanE
04-14-2005, 09:01 PM
<DIV>Sheilds increase avoidance NOT mitigation by around 10% and sometimes have a useful 5% proc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you are grouped with a Tempar most of your healing is coming from being hit, grouped with other healers being hit does not factor into increased healing efficiency.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Your 2nd weapon creates additional taunt and DPS.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>These are the factors I weigh out when I decide to use a sheild. I typically am grouped with a Templar so im biased.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If im getting hit hard enough to be going down steady with both reactive heals on me then I put the sheild on. If I stay up at around 80-90% with both weapons continuously there is no reason for the sheild and the additional DPS and taunt help so I leave it in the bag.</DIV>

Tomanak
04-15-2005, 06:47 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Styker wrote:<BR>Tomanak Freeport Guardians get a shield as there class reward.... Qeynos ones get shafted<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I know, and agree :smileywink:</P> <P>Kept that *$%#&! Halabard in my bank for months hoping the Devs would come to their senses <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>