Heh Pally avoidance blows monks/guardians away

[Vorte]

<div></div>The funny thing is out avoidace isnt all that high when fully buffed, if a 46 Pally can run around with 90% avoidance all the time something is wrong but its weird that all the monks complain about guardians since we can self buff liek what 68% avoidance max maybe a little more with a shield. THis is at 50 as well while a 46 pally will have 30%+ more avoidance then us...something is fishy.. Anyone else notice that pally's massive avoidance i mean they blow any avoidance based class out of water keep in mind that was 90% avoidance without him usign a shield due to him off tanking. <div></div><p>Message Edited by VortexD on <span class=date_text>03-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:47 AM</span>

[Stra]

<span><blockquote><hr>VortexD wrote:<div></div>The funny thing is out avoidace isnt all that high when fully buffed, if a 46 Pally can run around with 90% avoidance all the time something is wrong but its weird that all the monks complain about guardians since we can self buff liek what 68% avoidance max maybe a little more with a shield. THis is at 50 as well while a 46 pally will have 30%+ more avoidance then us...something is fishy.. Anyone else notice that pally's massive avoidance i mean they blow any avoidance based class out of water keep in mind that was 90% avoidance without him usign a shield due to him off tanking. <div></div><p>Message Edited by VortexD on <span class="date_text">03-29-2005</span> <span class="time_text">06:47 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Avoidance depends on what is around you. Versus solo green mobs, they cant really touch me. Thats a good thing because it takes FOREVER for me to kill them.</span><div></div>

[Vorte]

Depends on what is around you?? What?? Heh we where in the same group. had a few templars ( no defence buffs etc) and a 50 defiler the only thing they have is harrbinger and that sure wont bump his avoidance up 30% besides harbringer was casted on my toon. For example shrug off increases avoidance by like 0.5% how does this pally manage to get it to 90% and people complain about guardians avoidance being to high. <div></div>

[Tosari_Truebla]

Perhaps he was lying about his avoidance?  Did you actually see such a high value?

[Vorte]

Heh right click and inspect and yeah i checked like 6 times since i coudnt belive he had it at 90%. Its also not some 30 second buff since he can keep it up 24/7 must be one of their self buffs that add liek 30% avoidance. <div></div>

[Mig]

It's troubadour buffs, not paladins. I regularly run around with over 3k mitigation and about 92-94% avoidance in my exp grind group. I have about 270 defense as well at lvl 47.<p>Message Edited by Migyb on <span class=date_text>03-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:06 AM</span>

[Ender]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>Vortex. I've seen guardians with 90% avoidance with buffs. Your point is? <div></div><p>Every heavy armor wearing class will be nerfed once the avoidance patch comes around. </p> <p>That means your precious little guardian too. Cry harder plz. </p> <p>So much for the whine.<span class="time_text"></span></p><p>Message Edited by EnderMX on <span class=date_text>03-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:10 AM</span>

[Vorte]

<div></div><div></div>Ahh noobs, okay here we go since you all seem to know it better. as for the guy saying a troub...didnt i just say the only class we had that can buff defence was a defiler? Furthermore i did state that it was his self buffed avoidance since i had asked him to disband and low and behold it dropped to 86% . As I said harbringer was on me. The group was the following: Guardian (50), Temp (50), Temp(44), Defiler (50), and a ranger(41) incase you wondering they where working on screamign mace (lots of healers<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Now for the other dude I WOULD love to see that guardian that can self buff his avoidance to 90% because then something is wrong as well however with our buffs it isnt possible since a 12 defence buff ads what 0.5% avoidance, self buffed and not in a group i can get it to ~65%... Now lets see a self buffed pally without a shield has 90% avoidance a self buffed guardian with a cedar tower has 65%... Honestly learn which classes have defence or avoidance buffs then come back and try to tell me his 90% avoidance if normal. we arent even talkign abour a raid situation here, we are talkign about how a lvl 46 pally can get 25% more avoidance then a guardian at 50,. Or shall i say 15% more avoidance then a monk who doesnt know what he is doing since most of them run around with 80%. So yeah Ender you arent even worth my time to flame, rofl bring facts to the table rather then stuff that you pull from where the sun don't shine. Either way i find it quite funny how people are trying to defend pally's when there is somethign wrong and it really doesn't take much to see the problem here. If two tank classes avoidance is the same unbuffed and one class can add over 30% something wrong and even your sad attempt at a flame wont fix that Ender. <div></div><p>Message Edited by VortexD on <span class=date_text>03-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:25 AM</span>

[Ender]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>You idiot. There is nothing in the Paladin spell line that adds to +Avoidance. Take a screenshot. Prove it. Tell us what spell the Paladin was using professor. Right now, you're just crying without proof. Did I mention you're gonna get nerfed anyway by the avoidance patch? Awwww poor baby can't tank anymore? Time for you to uninstall plz. Post this in the Paladin forums ya wuss so you'll get schooled on what Paladins are about plz. <div></div><p>Message Edited by EnderMX on <span class=date_text>03-29-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:29 AM</span>

[Vorte]

Rofl noob you arent even worth my time, read the [Removed for Content] post first he disbanded and got it to 85. something%. And honestly i don't care about being nerfed defence stackign in general was to strong but that isnt really the point here is it? THe point is said pally copuld buff his avoidance by a good 30%. Bloody noob what lvl are you 20? <div></div>