Ainmer please reroll a different class!

[Azry]

<DIV><STRONG>Youre enciting so much anti-guardian hatred you have to be a Blizzard employee. </STRONG></DIV>

[Ainm]

What are you talking about? I love playing a Guardian. It's a fun class. EQ2 has bugs and design flaws. If they aren't exposed, they won't get fixed.

[Azry]

<DIV>Our current damage mitigation is not something that is "a bug that needs to be fixed." Period. Bugs are like not having the proper combines to make tradeskill stuff or not having a skill effect do anything. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0099 size=4><STRONG>Work on a useful goal like having our guard abilities actually be useful rather than make way exaggerated claims (and just outright false) we are overpowered.</STRONG></FONT></DIV><p>Message Edited by Azryal on <span class=date_text>12-07-2004</span> <span class=time_text>10:23 AM</span>

[Ainm]

<blockquote><hr>Azryal wrote:<DIV>Our current damage mitigation is not something that is "a bug that needs to be fixed." Period. Bugs are like not having the proper combines to make tradeskill stuff or not having a skill effect do anything. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV><FONT color=#ff0099 size=4><STRONG>Work on a useful goal like having our guard abilities actually be useful rather than make way exaggerated claims (and just outright false) we are overpowered.</STRONG></FONT></DIV><p>Message Edited by Azryal on <span class=date_text>12-07-2004</span> <span class=time_text>10:23 AM</span><hr></blockquote>What exaggerated or false claim did I make?

[Turony]

<DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#669933>Youre enciting so much anti-guardian hatred you have to be a Blizzard employee. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV>What  a crybaby...Someone comes out and shows that in one department where AC mitigation is bugged, a bug which guardians can exploit it the most out of all the classes, and you scream your lungs out that it must be fake because <STRONG>guardians must definitly be the most gimped class in EQ2 since Azryal the greatest guardian ever says so.</STRONG> You have even come to the point that you make a thread specifically targetting Ainmer simply because he does not share your pessimist and highly exaggerated pity arguments about guardians.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Grow up. He's not out to nerf guardians. The bug is existant for any class, but it more apparent for guardians because of they have much higher AC. </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P>Message Edited by Turonyen on <SPAN class=date_text>12-07-2004</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:23 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Turonyen on <span class=date_text>12-07-2004</span> <span class=time_text>11:32 AM</span>

[Azry]

<DIV>I never said guardians are gimped beyond repair, but <FONT color=#ffff00 size=4>more gimping </FONT>is not whats needed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>There is no bug here.</STRONG> Damage mitigation vs high ac/lower con mob situations is working as intended. End of story. Someone want to prove otherwise? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Its like enough already FFS. This is a broken record argument. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>False claim: This is a bug. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can state you think "this is unfair or it shouldnt work this way" but to you claim you can read minds and know the designers didnt intend this is a falsehood, <U>pure and simple</U>.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Veritas et Aequitas</DIV><p>Message Edited by Azryal on <span class=date_text>12-07-2004</span> <span class=time_text>11:54 AM</span>

[Ainm]

<blockquote><hr>Azryal wrote:<DIV>I never said guardians are gimped beyond repair, but <FONT color=#ffff00 size=4>more gimping </FONT>is not whats needed.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV><STRONG>There is no bug here.</STRONG> Damage mitigation vs high ac/lower con mob situations is working as intended. End of story. Someone want to prove otherwise? </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Its like enough already FFS. This is a broken record argument. </DIV><hr></blockquote>Again, what exaggerated or false claim did I make?Are you suggesting that they intended for solo player at level 27 to be able to solo blue mobs marked "Group"? That was intentional? Because the "Group" indicator is what's throwing me off..

[NinjaGangs]

<DIV>Ainmer = obviously biased Zerker poster. He wants his Zerker to tank as good as a Guardian, deal 2-3x DPS of a Guardian, and solo as good as a Guardian. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Right now things are imba in favor of Zerker. True Guardians can solo blue ^^ mobs but WE NEED TO SOLO THEM -- because we can't find groups because our class is gimped vs Zerker. Anyway by soloing we get maybe 75% of the exp we would get from a group, but more loot probably. How is this imbalanced??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If anything our solo ability needs to be improved, we'd have to solo yellow mobs to equal the exp output from a decent group. Guardians need to be buffed NOT NERFED. </DIV>

[Ainm]

<blockquote><hr>NinjaGangsta wrote:<DIV>Ainmer = obviously biased Zerker poster. He wants his Zerker to tank as good as a Guardian, deal 2-3x DPS of a Guardian, and solo as good as a Guardian. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Right now things are imba in favor of Zerker. True Guardians can solo blue ^^ mobs but WE NEED TO SOLO THEM -- because we can't find groups because our class is gimped vs Zerker. Anyway by soloing we get maybe 75% of the exp we would get from a group, but more loot probably. How is this imbalanced??</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>If anything our solo ability needs to be improved, we'd have to solo yellow mobs to equal the exp output from a decent group. Guardians need to be buffed NOT NERFED. </DIV><hr></blockquote>Bust out the tinfoil hats!http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=117647102I've never had a significant problem getting a group. I'm sure some folks have, but I haven't. I've never needed to solo anything to get xp.