Taurcl
12-02-2004, 10:58 PM
<DIV>I would like information from anyone who has done any valid testing on this subject please.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Everyone beleives this to be a BIG issue but I am not entirely convinced that it is broken. I think what is happening is that someone see's a monster hit them with a regular attack for 50 damage, and then see's a mob hit them with a special attack for 350 damage and they just start screaming that its broken. So lets look at this logically and make a few points and see what people think :<BR><BR>1) On some mobs, my regular attacks are like 15-25 damage (mobs with high AC) and when I use specials I can still hit them for up to 70-90 damage. This is because you are expending power to do more damage. It works for me... why shouldnt it work for a monster?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2) I find that the MAJORITY (not all) of a mobs specials do not do crazy amounts of damage. I find that on average they use specials like wild swing and what not and only hit me for maybe 2-3x their normal damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3) I find that vs most of the mobs I have been fighting lately, their AE style is their most damaging style BY FAR. Barrage. Its a mean style and it can do from 200 - 500 damage from what ive seen.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What I saw recently that leads me to believe that its still working properly :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Last night I watched my regular group for damage done by AEs that mobs throw out. I have the whole thing logged but the log is at home and I doubt anyone feels like surfing through it anyway. If an AE did the same damage to every player it hit this would have been an open and shut test with very conclusive results but that is not the case so this was just my way of initially looking into the problem without interfering with everyones plans for the night =) </DIV> <DIV><BR>The only melee AE that I have ever seen mobs use is Barrage and certain mobs use it alot. I was mainly looking at the low end that it would hit people for, and the high end that it would hit people for.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>They tend to hit me for 200-350. I have never seen anything over 350 damage (1500ish grouped AC)</DIV> <DIV><BR>They tended to hit my GF for 250-400. Shes an inquisitor and her AC was only 1000ish.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My friends GF... she is a wizard, its not common but I saw the occasional AE hitting her for 450+ and it seemed to hit her for at LEAST 350 from what I saw, and we all know how wizards AC is.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I only counted AEs that hit both me and at least 1 other party member since I was mainly comparing the damage that other people take to the damage that I take.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This leads me to very strongly believe that AC mitigation vs special attacks is working as intended. And if it IS broken I would like to see someone provide some solid information regarding the subject as I am not 100% convinced that its working but that definitely points towards the fact that it is. I would still like to see some results from non-AE styles. I will provide them myself given time but I only monitored AEs last night.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Like I said I think the majority of this is just people seeing high damage numbers and panicking. I dont think its broken but I want to make sure because its a bad deal if it is, especially for us main tanks. <BR><BR>Comments? Suggestions?</DIV><p>Message Edited by Taurclax on <span class=date_text>12-02-2004</span> <span class=time_text>10:02 AM</span>