improved tanking

[Neimhidh]

<DIV>I don't know much about guardians, but an interesting idea has come out on the monk boards where the monk is MT and the guardian puts an intervene on the monk, as well as both classes cross buffing each other defensively..  It seems that this would be a very hard combo to get through.</DIV>

[Yusonge]

<DIV>So now im regulated as to being nothing but a buffer? I thought our job as a guardian is to tank. Sit there and get pounded on. Correct me were im wrong that we are buffers now.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Yusonge on <span class=date_text>12-02-2004</span> <span class=time_text>09:54 AM</span>

[Taurcl]

<DIV>I have tried that since my usual secondary tank is a bruiser.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We find that its more efficient for me to be main tank and for him to keep HIS buffs on me. When we must for big pulls and such we cross buff each other anyway to be safe. But for the most part I tank, he does the damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>my 2 cp.</DIV>

[Neimhidh]

<DIV>The concept is merging the avoidance tank with the mitigation tank.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The mob attacks the monk, the monk avoids many of the hits and the monk can hold aggro better.</DIV> <DIV>The guardian takes the hits that make it through the avoidance, and the guardian's high AC will mitigagte the damage even more.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>in this case, the guardian is the tank.  The monk is more of a debuff on the mob, lowering the amout of damage the mob is putting into the guardian.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Neimhidh on <span class=date_text>12-02-2004</span> <span class=time_text>12:11 PM</span>

[ColdFusionWi]

<DIV>My guildmate lvl 22 monk and I (lvl 23 guardian) tried this last night because I too really thought this would be the way to go.  I have no problems being secondary as I'm always in it for the betterment of the group.  Anyways we were in Stormhold fighting yellow ^^ mobs and I was tanking just fine by myself but on a whim I mentioned that we should try him tanking with me casting all my protection skills on him.  Everyone in the group was a'ok with it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What our group found out was while the healer was using a 1/4 of her power to keep me between yellow and green, she was using 3/4 to all of her power to keep the monk between red, orange, and the occasional yellow.  Now he's got pretty decent armor for his lvl (we were all working on AQ3) and the only things we could think of was that the mob was too much for his evade and/or my app3 protection skills weren't enough.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyways that was our experience, others may vary.  I would really like to try this with a berzerker some time.</DIV>

[Dekan]

I was doing this with a Shadowknight, except I used Allay instead of Intervene. Im still not convinced that Intervene doesnt ignore your armor... Anyways, doing the Allay thing, I added some parry/block rolls to the SK's normal rolls in addition to being free to pull aggro off casters without screwing up the MA targeting... Worked really well.

[Neimhidh]

<DIV>are there any upgrades to intervene that may be more effective at moving damage to the guardian?</DIV>

[Armeng]

We tried this at the advise of a monk other night, what the healer noticed was no difference healing, so I think I'll pass on it next time