guardian quest reward is stupid

[JeLLyFi]

<DIV>ok tell me why for doing the guardian quest u get a 2h great axe?? guardians r high hp/ac class and are more likely (from my experience) use 1h and a shield so u stay alive. what do zerkers get a shield??? i mean come on at least make it a choice maybe? add some variation to the class?? choose lets say armor or a shield or a weapon. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hate walking around town and seeing a guy with a greataxe on his back and u can just say... o hes a guardian. if i wanted to be the same as everyone else i would do back to diabblo. what does it matter if u can change 50 things on ur face if u still get everything the same as the other guardian over there.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>my 2cp thanks</DIV>

[dredc]

<DIV>I couldn't agree more!!!  I was really upset when I got my reward and it was a 2h.  Then I was really steamed when I found out the freeport side gets a kick butt shield!!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Where is the logic in this reward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</DIV>

[Tritori]

<DIV>Oh man, that sucks. I am only lvl 13 Warrior going on to Guardian, but if this is the case that's horrible. I agree with being able to have a choice of one item. Like 1 2h weapon, 1 1h weapon, and a tower shield to choose from. That would my ideal IMHO.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Trit</DIV>

[benba]

<DIV>yea,  I was hoping for a Shield or Some Armor...but a weapon for a Guardian? Makes no sense. I thought we were defenders...</DIV>

[Catu]

<DIV>Seems really off that the freeport guardians would get a big advantage like that, is it a bug and they're giving out berzerker rewards for qeynos guardians?  I'm planning on becoming a qeynos guardian but now I wanna level a lot slower while that mess is sorted out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Catulu 14 Warrior~Everfrost</DIV>

[Jam]

<DIV>Which Quest is this?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The item you get, from completed the hallmark quest, is your Guardian shield, Aegis of the guardian(or something like that)...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've talked to guardians from Qeynos also, they got the same reward as me ... Im from Freeport.</DIV>

[bjo]

<DIV>you must be talking about the wrong quest..i doubt theyd do soemthing so dumb unless its a bug.</DIV>

[Lethe]

<DIV>I too got a polearm from completing the Hallmark quest.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When I completed it I was wielding a 2h weapon, maybe the reward is based on what you are currently wielding? (If so, why aren't we given the usual choice of quest rewards when more than one is available.)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes, it's the Hallmark quest. Did the instanced zone, returned to Declan and received a 2h weapon.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Grr!</DIV>

[kalrithi]

<DIV>I recieved a polearm also...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Fable_E]

<DIV>This was reported in Beta and apparently has not been corrected yet.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I wouldn't level slower.. when the devs do address it they usually put a NPC in the game that will do the switch to the proper item.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Freeport Guardians do indeed get the Shield of the Ageis.</DIV>

[GambitPl]

<DIV>I heard it was a shield too . A 2hs doesn't sound a correct reward for the class; I hope it isn't the case.</DIV>

[Fable_E]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GambitPlay wrote:<BR> <DIV>I heard it was a shield too . A 2hs doesn't sound a correct reward for the class; I hope it isn't the case.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Sorry to clarify:</P> <P>Queynos - Bugged gets 2 hander</P> <P>Freeport - Correctly gets the shield.</P> <P>Guardians can be in both cities.</P>

[Kuda]

<DIV>Yep, got the stupid 2h last night.  Turned around and bought an ashenwood kite shield.... sigh.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kudara</DIV> <DIV>20th Guardian</DIV>

[Xter]

<DIV>I really hope they fix this soon.  This dumb 2h pisses me off!  Gear is so important to Guards, we really need something usefull. </DIV>

[Shike]

<DIV>I was so peeved when I got my Halberd of defense.  I mean come on.  A weapon?  Not only a weapon but a TWO hand weapon?  Talk about ridiculous. </DIV>

[WaltherP99]

<DIV>Also just finished this and think it should be changed.  A nice shield or a nice one-hander would have been soooo much better for this class than this 2h.</DIV>

[Fafnir]

<DIV>Agree... and what a dumb name?  Halberd of Defence... haha... what next, longsword of shielding?</DIV>

[Go]

<DIV>Same here finished it last night and got the two hander.......... :/</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hopefully something will be done sooner than later to correct this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[PowderedToastMan]

Call me crazy for being curious, but what are the stats on the two-handed reward weapon? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Mike00]

<DIV>I was also disappointed when I got a 2HS weapon.  I chose a Guardian because I wanted as much AC as possible.  And to me, that means</DIV> <DIV>1HS and shield.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Goewyn</DIV> <DIV>20 Guardian</DIV> <DIV>Butcherblock Server</DIV>

[Jam]

<DIV>I use the Guardian shield from freeport and Skullcrusher from fallen gate... Im lvl 24, nearly 25</DIV>

[Xti]

<DIV>i also got this 2h polearm</DIV> <DIV>was i ever peeved. i prefer one-handed over everything else</DIV> <DIV>so guess what i saw? BARDS!! get a sweet **ZOMG** one handed sword</DIV> <DIV>why cant they fix this in beta? thats what its for</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[PrincessC]

<DIV>I got a shield, aegis of guardian, for completing the hallmark quest</DIV>

[ToAsh]

<DIV>I use the Aegis and Skull Crusher combination</DIV>

[Xintal]

<DIV>Freeport = Shield</DIV> <DIV>Qeynos = Halberd</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I got the Halberd last night. It looks like it's not a bug, but more of a very poor design decision. Delacar actually calls me a Guardian and says here is the halberd that's served him well in the same paragraph.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I personally don't have an issue with the reward being a two handed weapon (there's a time and place for both shields and two handers), BUT at least make it a good one OR give it a reason to be called "of Defense". Take off the other stats and make it increase Parry skill, add AC to it, or something. They can at least make it a good two hander, not give it practically the same stats and damage as the Willow Wood Maul that I've been using since level 16. I thought I would get a better reward for a quest that almost killed me compared to a quest that was super easy.. silly me.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm sure myself and everyone else would vote for them to just give us a choice of what we want (like most other quests do).  I doubt it would be too hard to implement for them to allow us a choice between the Shield from Freeport and the Halberd from Qeynos.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But oh well.. to make it even worse, they don't sell ashwood tower shields in Qeynos? We're stuck with using ashwood kite shields at level 20 now? Hopefully someone can tell me I'm wrong and point me in the right direction as to where to buy one.</DIV>

[JeLLyFi]

<DIV>does anyone know what the zerkers get for their hallmarks? i mean its like giving them a shield when they give us a 2h. overall the best thing sony could do to this is make it a choice to insure uniqueness of people within the same class. i talked to a lot of guardians who shrug it off and says its 11s that u use to buy a shield.</DIV>

[GenesisForgot]

<DIV>obviously the rewards for berzerkers and guardians on good side are bugged and reversed. Guardians get the shield and Berzerkers get the Axe on the Freeport side and everybody is happy enough.</DIV>

[Ank]

<DIV>I think the 2hand is right on the money, 95% of the time soloing and in groups I use a that 2 hand for maximum dps.  You can hunker down if things get scary.  Only on a boss mob do I use my 1 hand and my 60 mitagation tower shield.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think it is by design mates.  Otherwise, for exp groups you are losing your group a bunch of dps.</DIV>

[Ainm]

Guardians chose to become guardians to tank mobs, not dish out dps. If they desired to dish out dps, then they would have chosen berserkers. Here's an analogy:A Ranger completes his quest and is presented with a shiny new buckler that gives him +5 int/wis and 30 AC. In short, there is no reason for this ranger to ever use this item. Would this make sense to you?By the level you get Delacar's Halberd of Defense, you are very able to get any number of better 1h and 2h weapons as a guardian (i.e. steel), yet by and large you are still using a storebought shield. While it may be interesting for some confused guardans to wield a 2h piercing weapon, most of us chose the class to focus on AC and being an invulnerable tank.This reward was not well considered, and should be changed to something we will actually use. I have never used Delacar's; when I want to solo I use a steel pike.

[Yennik]

<DIV>We should get to pick from a 2 hand axe or a 1 hand axe.  Giving a shield type tank a 2 hand only to pick from is not cool.</DIV>

[Chucksinge]

<DIV>I was a little mad as well when I got the 2-hander tonight.  I can only hope that someone out there is checking into this and corrects it, because it is dumb.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyone know where a good level 20 shield for a guardian drops at?</DIV>

[Pund]

<DIV>Anyone able to confirm if this is a bug or "Working as intended" with a dev, assumption can be evil sometimes (Sounds like it is, but just to be sure).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If so, would there be any way to trade in the item for the shield?</DIV>

[Zilo]

<DIV>/agree</DIV>

[Quinal]

<DIV>I am using an anciet kite shield (156 ac (189 at 23 I think)) that drops in stormhold off Captain (I cant remeber his name).  Great sheild.</DIV>

[Xtremities]

[Xtremities]

<DIV>Bah!  This forums is a pain in the butt to post on...</DIV> <DIV>Anyway- here's what the last post should have said:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Someone earlier asked about the quest reward for Qeynos Berserkers.  It is a 2handed axe.  Delecar's Axe of something or other.  I did the quest last night.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just FYI.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And just for the record- i'm not a big fan of 2handed weapons at all- i never see enough damage difference over dual weild or even over 1handed to justify not using a sheild.</DIV>

[S]

Got the 2 handed Halberd a few nights ago. Comes in handy when I solo, but still would of perfered some sort of armor piece.<p>Message Edited by SOH on <span class=date_text>11-23-2004</span> <span class=time_text>03:23 PM</span>

[commandob]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Fable_EQ2 wrote:<BR> <DIV>This was reported in Beta and apparently has not been corrected yet.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I wouldn't level slower.. when the devs do address it they usually put a NPC in the game that will do the switch to the proper item.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Freeport Guardians do indeed get the Shield of the Ageis.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> aye the freeport shield is kinda cool great AC too

[Hammerclap]

<DIV>To add insult to injury, I received a loot drop 2h weapon, named Steel Maul, off a normal mob in Stormhold last night that is much better than the 2h halberd reward for Guardian quest.  So, now I'm stuck with a piece of junk, especially since like most Guardians, I use 1h + shield.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You figure the devs would at least make theweapon better than a loot drop off a mob.  Sheesh.</DIV>