An Apology From EQ2 OGaming

[Gillagad]

<div></div>As posted on the EQ2 OGaming front page.  Felt it should be posted here to reaffirm its message to any offended.---"<span>During this last week I’ve received quite a few emails from those of you in the community who were upset about the new line of ads we had in our rotation. I appreciate every single one of those emails sent to me, although I wasn’t able to reply too many. Just before the holiday weekend those ads were snuck into our rotation and we weren’t able to remove them until earlier today. We’re sorry this happened in the first place and I want to assure you that steps are being taken to make sure this kind of thing doesn’t happen again in the future.Here at OGaming our viewers are the most important thing. We work very hard to bring you the most accurate and entertaining content around. When our viewers are upset, we do all we can to take action. We appreciate your patience in this matter and hope you continue to use EQII OGaming as your one stop resource for EverQuest II.Best regards,Andrew “Tamat” BeegleEQ2 OGaming Community Manager"---</span><div></div>

[Tamat]

<blockquote><hr>Gillagad wrote:<div></div>As posted on the EQ2 OGaming front page.  Felt it should be posted here to reaffirm its message to any offended.---"<span>During this last week I’ve received quite a few emails from those of you in the community who were upset about the new line of ads we had in our rotation. I appreciate every single one of those emails sent to me, although I wasn’t able to reply too many. Just before the holiday weekend those ads were snuck into our rotation and we weren’t able to remove them until earlier today. We’re sorry this happened in the first place and I want to assure you that steps are being taken to make sure this kind of thing doesn’t happen again in the future.Here at OGaming our viewers are the most important thing. We work very hard to bring you the most accurate and entertaining content around. When our viewers are upset, we do all we can to take action. We appreciate your patience in this matter and hope you continue to use EQII OGaming as your one stop resource for EverQuest II.Best regards,Andrew “Tamat” BeegleEQ2 OGaming Community Manager"---</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>QFE!!! But seriously, we're sorry this happened and thank you for using EQII OGaming!<div></div>

[Ixnay]

<P>Please just make it so someone can pay a couple bucks a month and not get ads, ever.</P> <P>Honestly, I temporarily stopped using your site based on that flashing "horror" ad, I simply couldn't stand looking at it.</P> <P>But I'm glad it's gone and things are back to normal, and I do use your site daily, and you have so much content I think you'd be justified going the route that Alakazam went in EQ, which was to provide a basic service with ads, but a premium service with more info and without ads.</P> <P>Just my two cents, I appreciate the content, and please keep up the good work.</P>

[Saihung23]

<P>What ads were people complaining about?  The ones for plat selling affiliate sites? Or the obnoxious flashing banners?</P> <P> </P>

[Reksha]

There were ones with adult content on the site. 

[Saihung23]

Hubba Hubba

[Vukota]

<DIV>Tam I'm offended that they're no longer in the rotation :p</DIV>

[Roriondesexiest]

<DIV>lol, my wife walked in my office last night and had the site up looking at a guide and there were 2 chicks kissing in a big ad on the side, needless to say she gave me hard time about it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not that I am complaining.... Never against seeing 2 chicks kiss.....</DIV>

[vikingthug]

<DIV> <DIV><U>lol, my wife walked in my office last night and had the site up looking at a guide and there were 2 chicks kissing in a big ad on the side, needless to say she gave me hard time about it.</U></DIV> <DIV><U></U> </DIV> <DIV><U></U> </DIV> <DIV><U></U> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>Finally, something to spice the game up!  What this game really needs is a city full of Amazonian hotties running around dressed like antonia bayle!</FONT></DIV></DIV>

[BaruMonk]

<blockquote><hr>vikingthug wrote:Finally, something to spice the game up!  What this game really needs is a city full of Amazonian hotties running around dressed like antonia bayle!<hr></blockquote>Enchanted Lands - Lamia (and, to a lesser extent, fairies)Rivervale - Dryads(?)

[Vukota]

If anything all that did was increase the number of hits OGaming got haha

[carlspackler]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Saihung23 wrote:<BR> <P>What ads were people complaining about?  <FONT color=#ff9900>The ones for plat selling affiliate sites</FONT>? Or the obnoxious flashing banners?</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Do they still have these ads on that site? I stopped using that site once I saw those ads, but if they are gone now I might start using it again. However, the adult ads wouldn't have bothered me at all. <BR>

[BSbon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> carlspackler wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Saihung23 wrote:<BR> <P>What ads were people complaining about?  <FONT color=#ff9900>The ones for plat selling affiliate sites</FONT>? Or the obnoxious flashing banners?</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Do they still have these ads on that site? I stopped using that site once I saw those ads, but if they are gone now I might start using it again. However, the adult ads wouldn't have bothered me at all. <BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>i dont know. i never look at ads unless they are the annoying flashy ones. then i just refresh the page in hopes of getting a non annoying one so i can read in peace.

[Sunlei]

 Nice add for more hits. Didn't ogaming get bought out by that big game money seller? Or am I mistaken that I read that somewhere?

[Saihung23]

<P>I didnt see any ads for EQ2 pp, only WoW.  But the links will take you to sites selling EQ2 pp...so I personally dont like it...</P> <P>And as far as I know Sunlei...yes, they were allegedly purchased by IGE.</P>

[Ixnay]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Saihung23 wrote:<BR> <P>And as far as I know Sunlei...yes, they were allegedly purchased by IGE.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Even if that was true rather than conjecture, I think this is a poor shot here and unfairly interjected into the topic of this post.</P> <P>Regardless of who the ultimate owner of Ogaming is, Ogaming itself isn't trying to sell plat to anyone.  And you cannot deny that Ogaming, by far, provides the highest quality and most indepth information about all aspects of EQ2 out of any fan site on the Internet.  If you want to do any extensive EQ2 quest, there are basically two ways to do it:  the hard way where you have to figure everything else out yourself, or the easy way where you can do it in one tenth of the time with a complete walkthrough just by looking it up on Ogaming.  </P> <P>The site also provides invaluable material to crafters, such as complete spell lists by class that any sage, alchemist or jeweler can use to quickly make a set of spells for someone in a given class and range.  These resources just arent available anywhere else on the net to the best of my knowledge, including from SoE, to whom I pay at least 3 bucks a month for added functionality to EQ2players.com that doesn't always seem to work and is only fractionally as useful as the information on Ogaming when it does.</P> <P>So I would really like to reinforce what I suggested above:  Please, charge me $24 per year so I can use your site without having to deal with those horrific flashing ads.  I probably wouldn't pay more than that, but that amount seems more than fair.  I bet if you implemented a premium feature program for your site, while still providing free services for those who choose not to pay or cannot afford it, you would dramatically exceed the revenues and income you are presently collecting from ads alone.</P> <P>I have friends and am friendly with several people who work for or own other fan sites, please don't think I'm making a commericial pitch for Ogaming, I'm not.  I'm just trying to suggest a way that people in my situation can happily pay a little bit of money to access the information on Ogaming in a more pleasant and useful manner.  I definitely understand why they need to sell ad space on their site, nobody should be expected to provide any service at a loss.  Just please charge me and others and collect the same amount of money or more, so that I don't have to look at the flashing and plat selling ads to begin with.</P> <P>Thank you<BR></P>

[carlspackler]

<P> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ixnay wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Saihung23 wrote:<BR> <P>And as far as I know Sunlei...yes, they were allegedly purchased by IGE.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Even if that was true rather than conjecture, I think this is a poor shot here and unfairly interjected into the topic of this post.</P> <P>Regardless of who the ultimate owner of Ogaming is, Ogaming itself isn't trying to sell plat to anyone.  And you cannot deny that Ogaming, by far, provides the highest quality and most indepth information about all aspects of EQ2 out of any fan site on the Internet.  If you want to do any extensive EQ2 quest, there are basically two ways to do it:  the hard way where you have to figure everything else out yourself, or the easy way where you can do it in one tenth of the time with a complete walkthrough just by looking it up on Ogaming.  </P> <P>The site also provides invaluable material to crafters, such as complete spell lists by class that any sage, alchemist or jeweler can use to quickly make a set of spells for someone in a given class and range.  These resources just arent available anywhere else on the net to the best of my knowledge, including from SoE, to whom I pay at least 3 bucks a month for added functionality to EQ2players.com that doesn't always seem to work and is only fractionally as useful as the information on Ogaming when it does.</P> <P>So I would really like to reinforce what I suggested above:  Please, charge me $24 per year so I can use your site without having to deal with those horrific flashing ads.  I probably wouldn't pay more than that, but that amount seems more than fair.  I bet if you implemented a premium feature program for your site, while still providing free services for those who choose not to pay or cannot afford it, you would dramatically exceed the revenues and income you are presently collecting from ads alone.</P> <P>I have friends and am friendly with several people who work for or own other fan sites, please don't think I'm making a commericial pitch for Ogaming, I'm not.  I'm just trying to suggest a way that people in my situation can happily pay a little bit of money to access the information on Ogaming in a more pleasant and useful manner.  I definitely understand why they need to sell ad space on their site, nobody should be expected to provide any service at a loss.  Just please charge me and others and collect the same amount of money or more, so that I don't have to look at the flashing and plat selling ads to begin with.</P> <P>Thank you<BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Well if they were purchased by IGE, then I sure as heck would not want to pay them ANY money to not see ads. Even if it was the best site out there and had every item, every quest, every spell, etc. on it, I would not use it for that fact and they sure wouldn't get my money. For some clarification, Tamat, can you please let us know if in fact Ogaming is owned/partnered/or has some other business relationship, besides advertising, with any of the "gold selling" websites. Let's hear it from the source. Thanks!</P> <P>For spells, I use this site anyway - <A href="http://home.comcast.net/%7Eeq2gamedata/main.html" target=_blank>http://home.comcast.net/%7Eeq2gamedata/main.html</A>. It provides much more detailed, and up to date, info on spells and upgrades. There is a lot more sites out there that have this info.</P> <P>Not to totally derail, thanks for letting it be known that you "removed" the adult ads. Some kids look at this site for help and it is good that it is not made available to them on more websites than usual.</P>

[Sunlei]

<P> With everquest one, soe would not post or list in their links those websites that got taken over by that big game money seller.</P> <P>As it should be and it was awefull for those communitys from say the monk messageboards and others to be taken over by the mafia gold sellers.</P> <P>Those gold sellers websites would never have mods and blue names from their websites.</P> <P>Some eq1 websites never sold-out to that gold-seller..not many but a few  didn't sell out.</P> <P>And if ogaming sold out, I want to know because I'll never recomend that site to anyone or use it. There are plenty of other great sites that aren't sell outs.</P> <P> </P>

[Saihung23]

<P>Hiya Ixnay</P> <P>God its too early <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I dont care really who owns them...tbh.  It does bother me about the plat selling ads on there.</P> <P>Sure I dont have to look at them...sure I dont <STRONG><EM>have </EM></STRONG>to be bothered by it.  Its not wrong of me to be bothered by it though.  I read everday (like you probably) about these sites sending spam to players through tells and the mailboxes.  I dont like any company that makes it their business to violate the EULA.  </P> <P>Again, I dont care who owns ogaming.  I will still use it when I cant find my answers here.  Do I ever click the ads there? no.  Do I ever click ads on any website? no.</P> <P>So I guess they can keep putting them up, and it wont make a difference to me...I just dont respect it.</P> <P>Coffee, caffeine, coffee, caffeine</P> <P>Too much typing too little liquid eye opener, sorry to offend you in any way Ixnay.</P>

[hdm7k]

<P>I saw the flashing HORROR ads and it was almost enough to trigger epilepsy (spelling?) and I don't even suffer from that.</P> <P>Taking off the adult ads, dang! I was truly hoping to sell off about 40 years of my adulthood so I could go steal my 6-year-old nephew's toys... They are SO cooler than mine when I was his age!</P> <P>Oh well, I guess I'll have to stick with EQ2 intead... /grumble</P> <P> </P> <P>Howard</P> <P>(tongue SERIOUSLY in cheek)</P> <P> </P>

[Raknarthewo]

The hypocracy of this thread is truly mind-boggling. You will get all high and mighty about plat buying, yet will read a quest walkthrough? You are all just [Removed for Content] off that, like the plat-buyers, you are not smart enough to play the game without aid, but too poor to buy plats. So you try to live in some fantasy land where your cheating is less bad than other's cheating. <div></div>

[Xadius]

<div><blockquote><hr>Raknarthewolf wrote:The hypocracy of this thread is truly mind-boggling. You will get all high and mighty about plat buying, yet will read a quest walkthrough? You are all just [Removed for Content] off that, like the plat-buyers, you are not smart enough to play the game without aid, but too poor to buy plats. So you try to live in some fantasy land where your cheating is less bad than other's cheating. <div></div><hr></blockquote>The hipocrasy isn't the only thing to come down to. Moreover, most people will indeed use the site for the quest walkthroughs regardless of who owns it, what ads are displayed, or anything else. O'gaming is the most popular site in the EQ2 community without a doubt, as well as the most useful site with quest walkthrough information and tons of other useful information. Which makes it the perfect outlet for ads that promote plat buying and selling since it gets the most exposure to the playerbase. I'm quite sure that the majority of players that disapprove of plat buying and selling will continue to visit the site for information as most will turn a blind eye to the ads. I don't think many will look at reading quest spoilers as cheating or put both into the same category as plat buying and selling although I'm sure there's an argument to be made there.</div>

[Saihung23]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raknarthewolf wrote:<BR>The hypocracy of this thread is truly mind-boggling. You will get all high and mighty about plat buying, yet will read a quest walkthrough? You are all just [Removed for Content] off that, like the plat-buyers, you are not smart enough to play the game without aid, but too poor to buy plats. So you try to live in some fantasy land where your cheating is less bad than other's cheating.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>what an ignorant [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].  How does reading a quest walk through relate to plat buying?</P> <P>Have I paid real life money to watch someone take a character through a quest?  How much more utterly idiotic can you make your statement?</P> <P>And who is [Removed for Content]?  I certainly am not, however, I dont care for those ads being on any site..why?  Because these are the jackals that constantly send tells to players and use the in game mail system as their personal way to advertise. Yet here they are apologizing for what? Adult ads on their site...OK.  </P> <P>Get a clue.</P>