Fan Faire 2008 - NEW!

[Mama Ky]

<p>What could possibly beat last year's Fan Faire in Las Vegas, NV?  <i>You tell us!</i>  The time has come to pick a new location and as always, we want your opinion.  Please vote on potential cities, dates and costs for Fan Faire 2008. You have 14 days to give us your two cents and help determine where the next great event will be held - so vote now!</p><p><b>What is a Fan Faire?</b>The SOE Fan Faire is a Sony Online Entertainment-sponsored event designed to allow players the chance not only to meet one another, but also many of the more prominent SOE personalities. It's a great opportunity to meet the real people behind the online avatars and the game itself. Though attendees will have plenty of opportunity to mingle freely with one another and make new friends, they'll also have the chance to participate in a number of panel discussions and game-themed live events.</p><p><b>When and where are the Fan Faire events held?</b>Fan Faire events are held in various regions throughout the U.S. and occur annually. We try to choose locations that will accommodate as many players as possible. </p><b><span style="color: #6600ff;"><p>Due to some changes in hotel choices for Fan Faire the poll has been changed.  Alas when changes are made to the polls the current votes are reset.  Instead of resetting the current poll we have a brand new poll for you to vote on.</p></span></b><p><b><span style="color: #6600ff;">We love seeing the enthusiasm here in votes and we apologize for the inconvenience running a new poll may cause, however it is only fair to give you the chance to select your favorite date and location from the new choices.</span></b></p>

[dmbtoo]

banned in dc

[WarC]

Hmm....  the Profile stuff in this section doesn't include ANYTHING from the game I play... PlanetSide. So, will PlanetSide even be represented at the next Fan Faire? If not ... then there's no need for me to suggest a location.

[Firedaw]

*sigh* why not Atlanta or New Orleans?

[Naylie]

<p>I am pretty sure we a rethinking of having something at DragonCon just so you know. Nothing set yet though.</p>

[kelly1]

Would really love it if they had one in St. Louis, Chicago, Louisville, or Indianapolis. All of those cities would be great. I know for a fact Louisville and Indianapolis have more than enough accomadations to host it. Would be nice to not see Vegas as a option ever stinking year lol Give us Eastern half of the US people a chance to.

[sgtre]

Reno Nevada, 30 bucks per night..

[Yado]

WooT DC is 1hr from me.

[Evangel]

Vegas, VEGAS, VEGAS!!!!!!!  <img src="/station/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[cernunn]

<p>Ok enough.  Pick <b>ONE PLACE TO VOTE</b>.  There are 2 polls now running.  Florida election anyone?  If one poll is no longer valid DELETE it please with a link to the correct poll.    You have 22 pages of posts on the original poll.  What about all of those votes?  Do we get a chance to revote?  More to the point, all those people that have voted are not going to know there is a NEW poll running.  Do we have 2 weeks from today or is it 2 weeks from the original post?  Are we sure that we wont have a 3rd poll started?       </p><p>   I say delete both polls and start fresh.  It will be the only way you will have a clear idea as to where the players want to go.  As for the Septenber dates,  Are you serious?  The school year starts about that time or sooner in some parts and you will really be cutting out parents and college students from attending fan faire.  Think about it.  Delete both polls take a breath and pick a poll please.</p>

[bitznpiec]

Vegas was great , hope it wins again , loved it there and this will be even a better time of the year !!!!!<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Brookly]

Would rather have seen a city in the Mid-West as a choice !!! So, since there is no chance of ever having a chance to attend one..I won't vote.

[xgordo]

<p>Vegas, drinks=cheap, food=cheap, fun= cheap. Lots to do and cost less to do it. Plus it cost less to fly there. It is an all around fun place to be at a low price. Vote Vegas and have a blast I say.</p>

[Bingy-X]

Would love to have this in DC as that would make it easy for me to get to instead of having to buy plane tickets.  Better choice would have been Philadelphia for me, LOL.

[Merd]

I gotta vote for none of the above. If it were somewhere in the midwest, I'd be there, but not on the coasts. Too far of a travel and expensive for me. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Perzephone]

I voted Vegas <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Mache]

Would people pick someplace else other than Vegas! <img src="/station/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> I mean shouldn't this event be in a different city each year?  They made it on the West Coast last year, so why not make it on the East Coast?!  <img src="/station/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Kevlari]

<p>Hi all,</p><p>when will there be another European Summit like the one in leipzig in '06. cuz i know many players would love to go but cant......well getting to the states is not cheap.</p>

[Gerik]

DC FTW!

[esorm]

I vote DC because even though the price looks higher remember there are otehr housing options in the area and I think more people can come to DC than the other 2 options. I would love to see an east coat fan faire, especially since I know a lot of people on the unrest server that live in est.

[Vi]

voted for vegas in the original poll but now that DC is an option gotta vote for that (much cheaper).... hope there is vegas style fun to be found in the capital!

[oafgirl]

I voted for DC on this one -- after making the suggestion in a response to the previous survey.There are shuttle flights to/from Boston and NYC; decent train service along the Eastern Seaboard, and a not too bad drive from many parts of the eastern Midwest.  Plus, several 'bargain' airlines (such as JetBlue and Southwest) fly into BWI -- the airport in Baltimore just an hour away by train or car (rental or shuttle van); AirTran flies into Dulles, in Virginia, about 40 minutes out, also serviced by shuttle vans.I rather hope this is actually decided in the next two weeks, because if Washington is chosen, fans interested in taking tours of some government facilities need to contact their Congressional representatives for (free) access.  When I was there last (2000), there was at least a four-month lead time for tickets to tour the FBI.  (Another place of interest is the Bureau of Printing & Engraving -- whose motto is:  The Buck Starts Here.  Yep, they print money there....)  This <i>is</i> an election year, so your Representatives (and 1/3 of your Senators) will be very accommodating to their constituents.Yes, the hotel looks expensive, but as someone pointed out, there are less expensive alternatives nearby.  The Metro is an excellent public transportation system.  And, of course, there is always the roommate option....The many museums of the Smithsonian Institute on the Mall -- including the fabulous Air & Space Museum, and the American History Museum -- the National Archives (see well-protected copies of Declaration of Independence and Constitution) and the Library of Congress -- a wealth of opportunities for pre- and post-Fan Faire activities.And just one more thing to put forward -- some people are making snide remarks about the "obvious new accounts made just to vote in the poll" based on number of posts.  I'd like to point out that just because I have a single-digit post number here on the Station boards, it doesn't mean I'm a newbie.  Check my post numbers on the EQplayers forums.   I'm sure the same applies to others here, who don't often post on Station boards, but do on their favorite game forums.

[Elislr]

<p>Why not Phoenix,</p><p> It's cheaper than Vegas, there is a lot to do here (there is gambling here too). We are not that far from Vegas. The weather is awesome. Someone seriously needs to look into having one here. </p><p>The only thing you will find in DC is crooks and thieves... along with the worst traffic, a horrible murder rate. </p><p>I used to live out that way and will never return to that hell.</p>

[Kybut]

Voted DC!

[Liu-Ti-Kw]

why not the Kentucky Fair and Expo center in Louisville, Kentucky?

[Meric]

Why not have more dates in September as an option? Thats why I picked Vegas

[Roukan]

<cite>WarCan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hmm....  the Profile stuff in this section doesn't include ANYTHING from the game I play... PlanetSide. So, will PlanetSide even be represented at the next Fan Faire? If not ... then there's no need for me to suggest a location. </blockquote>The Matrix Online barely was, but we still went.

[Stuge]

D.C.  it's convenient by train or car to NYC, Boston, Philly, Baltimore and points south.  I'd finally be able to attend a FF.

[Kearr]

<p>Vegas is fun..no doubt..but being to two Fan Faires there already enough is enough. I voted for DC and would even go for Orlando so I could meet more of my East Coast friends and in DC I could finally see all those places that I have always wanted to see.  Poor hubby as it would be non stop sight seeing and no sleep!!! </p><p>Orlando would be ok too as there is Disney World there and beaches. </p><p>Come on guys..we have done Vegas..over and over..and though I understand its cheaper its time to do something different!! </p>

[SG_01]

<cite>Machete wrote:</cite><blockquote>Would people pick someplace else other than Vegas! <img src="/station/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> I mean shouldn't this event be in a different city each year?  They made it on the West Coast last year, so why not make it on the East Coast?!  <img src="/station/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>Would love to, if they had anything outside of June <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Murry_]

I think the choices stink where is the Waikiki or Sydney or Cancun some where nice

[Telex]

DC is definitely the place to be!  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Havocide]

<u><b><i><span style="font-size: xx-large;color: #ff00ff;">VOTE ORLANDO!FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS SACRED!</span></i></b></u>

[Havocide]

<cite>Roukan wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>WarCan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hmm....  the Profile stuff in this section doesn't include ANYTHING from the game I play... PlanetSide. So, will PlanetSide even be represented at the next Fan Faire? If not ... then there's no need for me to suggest a location. </blockquote>The Matrix Online barely was, but we still went.</blockquote>Aye we did, though Planetside was there last year. They even got a [Removed for Content] computer event, MxO didnt.

[Rhea]

I vote for Vegas, I didn't get to do a lot of Vegas stuff the last time.  I would like to say that I am a little disappointed with the dates though.  June and Sept?  Kids are either still in school or they are just going back to school.  I think that you are going to have fairly low attendance at any of them.  I'd love Washington, but we can't make it for June.  I'd love to see something in New York or Washington, Detroit even.  We're from Ontario so anywhere it is held is far for us and requires flights.  But for us to go to vegas for 2 on that weekend to stay at Terribles Hotel and Casion (which btw is not at all terrible) is Under 900$ for flight and hotel. I think that different dates should be looked into when families are off, although Vegas is August wasn't great lol. Please, whereever you do choose, get a hotel that takes the Fan Faire Seriously.  I don't think the Rio thought that it was going to be as big as it really was and I don't think they took it seriously at all.  Also something not so far from the strip or anything else would be great(or at least something more accessible)

[Igie]

The only reason why Vegas was soooo bad weather wise last year was becasuse the night before everyone started coming in, it had rained for like 2 days straight. It was really an odd situation.

[im]

VEGAS!!!!   Its Cheap to get to, and cheap to stay at, and tons of stuff to do while your there.  Vegas is the most friendly, which is why ever poll so far it has been winning.

[Fenrir_Valianthea]

<p>I voted Washington DC as well!</p><p>I'm exicted about getting the opportunity to meet all my EST friends that wouldn't normally be able to make the trip out to Vegas or even Orlando.</p><p>Besides, I never been up that way for any length of time and this will be just the excuse to take the trip.</p><p> Cheers!</p>

[Selerra]

<p>Definitely Vegas.</p><p>While the other ones would be fun to visit, it wouldn't be good for Fan Faire.  I've done two Vegas Fan Faires and one Atlanta Fan Faire and the Atlanta one, if it was past 9pm, the only thing you had available was the room parties.  In Vegas, if you're still up at 3am, you can go just about anywhere you can go if it was 3pm.</p><p>The Rio wasn't as good as the Las Vegas Hilton, especially with Star Trek: The Experience there and free beers at Quarks if you had your Fan Faire badge. *giggle*  Also karaoke first night, as well as meeting up at your server tables the first night was way better than the Voodoo lounge.  The Voodoo Lounge was good, don't get me wrong, but having the initial party there made it harder to find your server peeps later.  It would have made a better 2nd/3rd night thing.</p>

[sandman]

No Seattle, WA <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Rami]

I voted Vegas.  It's the closest to my location, the best dates, and the lowest prices.  ^_~

[SG_01]

<cite>Havocide wrote:</cite><blockquote><u><b><i><span style="font-size: xx-small;color: #000000;">VOTE ORLANDO!FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS SACRED!</span></i></b></u></blockquote>No. You should know by now: Nothing is truely sacred <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Tarffu]

4 years of playing and still no love for Europe! will someone in soe please get off their backsides and give something back to the people of europe, in swg the eu server is the busiest!

[Darm]

Vancouver, BC?  All those cities are too crowded.

[El_V]

<p>The Casino at Santa Catalina Island would have been a nice choice....  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p><img src="http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/d2/unsecured/media/336012210/336012210_335992499_005e74c3e3897820a786e621e8075f 0b8d043105.jpg" alt="" width="480" height="360" border="0" /></p>

[penny7]

Calgary, Alberta Canada......or anywhere in Canada would be great...why not, there are many Canadians who play, offer us a chance to attend in our country, still close by for US citizens to come.

[Be]

Wish Fan Faire would come to Austin,TX <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[high_fidelit]

Id love it to be in DC, hope it wins this year, i dont like vegas enough to go there.

[Rhea]

I'd like to go to any of them, I just am not fond of any of the dates and Vegas has the best dates out of those offered (yay more time to save up the money)

[Turlach]

The cheaper, the better. And that's all I have to say about that

[WarC]

<cite>Havocide wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Roukan wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>WarCan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hmm....  the Profile stuff in this section doesn't include ANYTHING from the game I play... PlanetSide. So, will PlanetSide even be represented at the next Fan Faire? If not ... then there's no need for me to suggest a location. </blockquote>The Matrix Online barely was, but we still went.</blockquote>Aye we did, though Planetside was there last year. They even got a [Removed for Content] computer event, MxO didnt.</blockquote>There was so much going on for EQ2, the rest of us felt quite left out.  At least, they did have an on-line event for PlanetSide.  Nothing long, and just about everyone else LEFT the room.  They need to insure that, if the game is on the Station Pass...it needs some <3 and representation (an event) for us.

[MIN]

<p>MXO? who?</p>

[Croesus]

Oh... new poll... No Europe? No vote...

[Calthine]

<cite>penny747 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Calgary, Alberta Canada......or anywhere in Canada would be great...why not, there are many Canadians who play, offer us a chance to attend in our country, still close by for US citizens to come.</blockquote>One word:  Passports.

[Phlu]

VEGAS BABY!!!!!

[Xyy]

Why can't this be held like in Dallas, TX?   Do you realize the last time the Fan Faire was anywhere near Texas was in Jan. 2002?   Why does it have to be on a west coast or east coast or in Vegas all the time?  Have a couple a year and move one of them around a bit.   The same place all the time is a drag.  Besides, people would rather go to Vegas to gamble and Orlando to go to theme parks.   Get it away from those venues.  Thanks.

[mrgreap]

<p>spotted  this on the launcher and thought great that could be fun and good god there asking us to pick the city ? yay</p><p>then i loaded the page, 3 citys to choose from thats it,</p><p> it may be worth you guys actualy regonising that you have many international players so my vote is on London uk or Paris france both easily got to by the vast majority of us european gamers</p>

[Ho]

Well out of the choices available. <span style="color: #6600cc;">Vegas </span>seems like a great choice, however I did see someone mention New Orleans. That would so ROCK. Hope you all will consider that as a choice in the future.

[feabo]

Hi All. My choice of Las Vegas is for the price (the lowest) and the fact that it is closest to me flightwise plus I've never been there. Also, there are a lot of things to see and to do there (without even gambling). Perhaps Washington DC will be chosen as it is close to the major population base and that has its attractions for the historical sites nearby. Either one will be fine.

[Andr]

One in Amsterdam, where their euro servers are, would make sense and be great fun <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Paris, London or other main European cities are more expensive than A'dam as well.Was hoping Atlantic City for a choice this time <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Voted Vegas - though Orlando's a bit better for flights from London it's always fun and have friends close by.

[high_fidelit]

ive been to vegas 3 times and hated it everytime i was there. For those of us that play eqoa, we were left out last year for the most part. If we were treated like that last year, i have no plan on going to vegas to be left out again this year.

[Bbayli]

<p>Wow and actual east coast city on an east coast year this time how nice !</p><p>BBAYLIFF </p><p>Cleric of Bristlebane</p>

[Jac]

<cite>sgtrein wrote:</cite><blockquote>Reno Nevada, 30 bucks per night.. </blockquote>Haha! I agree!!! I can ask my neighbors if they can take a few of you for even cheaper!! (Jacie's house remains off-limits!)

[Gaje-SWG]

<cite>Jacie wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>sgtrein wrote:</cite><blockquote>Reno Nevada, 30 bucks per night.. </blockquote>Haha! I agree!!! I can ask my neighbors if they can take a few of you for even cheaper!! (Jacie's house remains off-limits!)</blockquote>No Fair !

[Golfrg]

DC Finally!

[dvc]

Vegas costs too much to fly, so I'm going with DC.  I can drive there.

[Calthine]

<cite>dvcle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Vegas costs too much to fly, so I'm going with DC.  I can drive there. </blockquote>Hahaha.  Y'all don't want to go anywhere *I* can drive to!!

[Jast]

I'm voting for Atlantic City...bc I'm from NJ and AC is cheaper and the same as Vegas for many people, plus all the Europeans that play can fly to AC for about half the price of Vegas..and besides...I have a card to the trump plaza for a free night<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[mantra777]

If it's going to be in Vegas... Please have the venue be like 18-/+ friendly for our younger gamers...

[Roukan]

<cite>high_fidelity2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>ive been to vegas 3 times and hated it everytime i was there. For those of us that play eqoa, we were left out last year for the most part. If we were treated like that last year, i have no plan on going to vegas to be left out again this year.</blockquote>Ahahhaa. At least you guys were on the t-shirts and advertising.

[Kl]

I think that Vegas is/was largely unsuccessful in comparison to other cities in the past...I also think it's time for a change.That being said...I think DC//Orlando would be perfect.     

[Nelson_Muntz]

<cite>WarCan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hmm....  the Profile stuff in this section doesn't include ANYTHING from the game I play... PlanetSide.So, will PlanetSide even be represented at the next Fan Faire?If not ... then there's no need for me to suggest a location.</blockquote>Here's hoping

[Igie]

<cite>Klub wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think that Vegas is/was largely unsuccessful in comparison to other cities in the past...I also think it's time for a change.</blockquote>Actually, that is incorrect. Two of the three (#1 and #3 to be exact) largest attendences for Fan Faire were in Las Vegas...... Vegas is actually the best draw they have had. IIRC New Orleans was the #2 on the top 3 list.

[Fi]

<p>Thank goodness you have given east coast a chance, I originally voted for Orlando and still would like to see it there but since so many are against the south, then DC would be my second choice, if it ends up in vegas, I will not be going, that was last year</p>

[Jambo]

<cite>Firedawwg wrote:</cite><blockquote>*sigh* why not Atlanta or New Orleans?</blockquote>I'm with you on that one. I mean, why not have a more centrally-located Fan Faire? Hell, I'm always hearing about how wonderful Branson, MO is on the radio and on television. Have it there!

[Jag_wi]

I hope its in Vegas this year again.  I missed last years, and had a lot of fun in Atlanta the year before.   Also if its in September that gives me  plenty of time to save, plan , and find a babysitter. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> 

[mahabreta]

<p>If you're gonna have it during the summer, no way in hell am I going to Orlando, it's hot AND humid.</p><p>I'm guessing San Diego is off the radar now, too bad - I have friends in SD</p><p>So *IF* you do it in Vegas again..... I'd really really appreciate it if you did a tad more advance planning.. namely -</p><p>1.  EVERYONE wears their badges.  I really hated gaping at women's cleavage and men's crotches to see if they were related to the game I was playing.  Since you can't control where a comfotable place to wear the badges is, could you PLEASE make the fonts bigger and perhaps color code them by game?</p><p>2. There was a LOT of confusion last year on what panels were going to be held in what room.  I understand that there were last minute changes (a wedding, for one), but it would be REALLY helpful when you reschedule/change an event, that the change in time and location be posted PROMINENTLY.  There were additional problems at the Rio because some of the rooms were really hard to locate if you didn't have a blueprint of the Rio ( the Women in Gaming panel comes to mind).</p><p>3. More seating in the "Developer's Lounge" would be welcome - and not just for the players.  I doubt your developers want to stand for hours on end, even if it IS their shift to deal with the unwashed masses.</p>

[amet]

<p>Orlando - unlike previous posters wanting it to be central US - be nice to remember some eurotrash like me do play this game and closer to the east coast is actually most central <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>we can get good flight deals to FLA plus of course ur dollar sucks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Duffl]

<p>I dunno I thought Seatle would be a cool place to have it</p><p>(Pun not intended)</p>

[MTVGenerati]

Can't we get something in Europe?

[Darth_Wra]

<cite>WarCan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hmm....  the Profile stuff in this section doesn't include ANYTHING from the game I play... PlanetSide. So, will PlanetSide even be represented at the next Fan Faire? </blockquote>Why? Planetside is dead

[Krelos]

<p>As of right now, the East Coast vote is being divided between DC and Orlando.</p><p>Consolidate the vote and we would have a majority wanting East Coast.  THEN we can decide Orlando or DC.</p><p>My two cents.</p>

[AmericanDictact]

Fan Faire's are for geeks.

[Lool]

<cite>AmericanDictactor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Fan Faire's are for geeks.</blockquote>Yes they are!!!<img src="http://elevagemo.free.fr/emoticones/biganim/ba6.gif" alt="" border="0" />  *wears her geek badge proudly*

[stek]

nice that this thing is only american oriented that way europeans/asians and others can be excluded......

[Oje]

Can anyone list the locations where Fan Faire has been held in past years? 

[Tharkis]

<p>I dont have all the early ones, but I believe these are all the official Fan Faires</p><p>Las Vegas Nevada, November 4-5 2000</p><p>Baltimore Maryland, February 3-4 2001</p><p>San Diego California, April 6-7 2001</p><p>Minneapolis Minnesota, June 15 -16 2001</p><p>Attempted but never held, Pairs France, September 15-16 2001  Cancled due to lack of European intrest in attending.</p><p>Orlando Florida, October 19-20 2001</p><p>Dallas Texas, January 25-26 2002</p><p>Seattle Washington, April 19-20 2002</p><p>Boston Massachusetts,  August 2-3 2002</p><p>San Francisco California, November 8-9 2002</p><p>Las Vegas Nevada, March 28-30 2003</p><p>Chicago Illinois, September 26-28 2003</p><p>Las Vegas Nevada, April 1-4 2004</p><p>New Orleans Louisiana, October 27-30 2004</p><p>Las Vegas Nevada, June 9-11 2005</p><p>Atlanta Georgia, April 6-8 2006</p><p>Las Vegas Nevada, August 2-5 2007</p><p>I'll update this when i find the dates and locations of the earlier ones.  Though I think these are all the "official" fan faires, although there were gatherings before that that werent "official" but were the origin of fan faire</p>

[Oje]

<p>Thanks Tharkis!</p><p>I was going to [Removed for Content] (like a lot of people) that they never have a Fan Faire at location X, but now I see they have had one here.  </p><p>But waaaaah!!!  Its been 5 years <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Tharkis]

<p>As can be seen, it's true that more have been held in Las Vegas than any location, however those have also been the most higly attended of all FanFaires, which in and of itself is a compelling reason to keep going there.</p><p>That being said, on this new poll I voted for Washington DC, as I've been meaning to get back there sometime soon, and I think it'd be a neat place to hold one.  I voted for vegas on the previous poll.</p><p>Location didnt used to be as much of an issue because the fan faire was  held much more frequently, so if you missed one it was only a few months before you had a chance go attend another.  They were also originally a lot smaller, around 800 to 1200 attendees.  As the fan faire has grown, that has limited SoE greatly in their choice of locations, as well as complicating their own arrangements in getting sufficient staff and the like to the places as well.</p>

[lacq]

<span style="color: #336600;">Seems SWG isnt really represented here either. However, Vegas sounds great!! Flights to and from are usually pretty cheap, and it's<i> right</i> before my birthday. Yay.</span>

[Kelladry]

How come Fan Faire is only once a year now instead of twice a year like it was before.  (or more like it was in previous years)??  It was nice having more than one chance to go every year...Sept is hard for some due to kids being in school and all.  Feb is nice because people get their tax money back around then...and well, what better way to blow tax returns than to go to Fan Faire??  I've yet to go to a Fan Faire, but would really like to someday...unfortunately, if it's at Las Vegas this year, I won't be going again. (that weekend is my son's birthday plus school starts at that time, will be broke from school clothes / supply shopping as well.)  But if it is DC, I can drive there, plus it's in the summer, kids out of school, and DC is more kid friendly than Vegas...can't really take kids to Vegas (if people had to take kids).  Just wondering...-Kelladry

[HeiligHangranate]

<p>Great list, Tharkis!   The only one I can think of that's missing is Minneapolis.  As I recall, it was around June of 2001.</p><p>As some people have brought up the issue of East Coast vs West Coast and how many Fan Faires are held each year, let me weigh in on the issue.  As one can see from your list, they used to hold a lot of Fan Faires each year, but I think they ran into a problem with declining attendance.  Starting around 2002, they settled into about two per year and alternated East Coast vs West Coast.  After San Francisco, Vegas became the only West Coast location, while the East Coast location moved around.  Thomas Taylor, who used to run the Fan Faires, once commented that West Coast = Vegas and East Coast = anywhere east of the Rockies.</p><p>New Orleans had a pretty low attendance (having it on Halloween weekend knocked out anyone with kids).  I noticed that the attendance was pretty low, though we had a great time.  The location was perfect, right on the edge of the French Quarter, and the hotel worked very well.  Plus, it doesn't hurt to have it in a location where they know how to party.</p><p>After New Orleans, they've had it only once per year and attendance seems to have stabilized.  However, I personally am getting tired of Vegas.  I know it works out great for Sony, but if you're not a gambler, it gets boring after a few years.  Since the last one was in Vegas, it's time to hold it somewhere else.</p>

[Tharkis]

<p>Ahh good of you to chime in, I knew I was missing one somewhere.  I think that you're one of the people who's made it to the most now.  I know Misharu's made it to every one since Boston (I missed the 2 right after boston myself because of conflicts with college exams) but I couldnt think of any of the 'regulars' who had been to most of the early ones off hand.</p><p>I'll add the Minneapolis one to my list.</p>

[Zatozia]

<cite>Kelladry wrote:</cite><blockquote>How come Fan Faire is only once a year now instead of twice a year like it was before.  (or more like it was in previous years)??  It was nice having more than one chance to go every year...Sept is hard for some due to kids being in school and all.  Feb is nice because people get their tax money back around then...and well, what better way to blow tax returns than to go to Fan Faire??  I've yet to go to a Fan Faire, but would really like to someday...unfortunately, if it's at Las Vegas this year, I won't be going again. (that weekend is my son's birthday plus school starts at that time, will be broke from school clothes / supply shopping as well.)  But if it is DC, I can drive there, plus it's in the summer, kids out of school, and DC is more kid friendly than Vegas...can't really take kids to Vegas (if people had to take kids).  Just wondering...-Kelladry</blockquote><p>We can do more with them when they are once year.  Besides, it leaves us room to do more throughout the year now too like the Meet and Greets in several different cities, and the Block Party here in San Diego.</p>

[Nas]

My vote is for "none of the above".  Why do we have to stick to the coasts?  Plenty of fine cities in between.I think the people that come up with these destinations just want to go there for their own enjoyment... seeing as how their ticket is paid for by the company.

[Eith]

<p>Back to Boston, for first choice.  </p><p>Second choice: St Louis, Louisville, Chicago, or Columbus -- all more centrally located than any of the offered choices</p><p>Third choice: Las Vegas, the best combination of air fare and room rate.</p>

[cegroc]

I vote for DC because I live in the north-east and it makes it an easier commute from home. It would be great to have a Fan Faire in NYC sometime.

[Lool]

<cite>Nashi wrote:</cite><blockquote>My vote is for "none of the above".  Why do we have to stick to the coasts?  Plenty of fine cities in between.I think the people that come up with these destinations just want to go there for their own enjoyment... seeing as how their ticket is paid for by the company.</blockquote>I think it has more to do with the location having the facilities to handle an event this size (and if you have never been, then you don't really know) and also the expense of plane tickets to said locations.  If you take a moment and check it out, prices vary wildly depending on the origin and location of your tickets.  I just took a look at prices for tickets to DC from my nearest airport, gainesville, fl - $300-$625 round trip or from Orlando (just a couple of hours away) - $107 - $258.  The more popular locales will have the better the prices on airfare.

[Tuche]

<p>Reposted from : <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?&topic_id=505549" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/...topic_id=505549</a></p><p><cite>Tucheck wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I've said it time and time again....NO CITY in the East can beat Columbus, Ohio for location.  Nadda, not one!</p><p>People in Chicago are just as close as the good folks of NYC, who are all just about as close as St. Louis, who are just about as close as DC, Nashville, Detroit, Philly, Pittsburg.....you name it, most all major cities on the East coast are about, or less than, a mere 500 miles away (500 / 65mph = 7.6 hour drive).  If you start driving at 8AM, you can be checked into your hotel by 4PM THAT night....or 7PM if you take 3 - 1 hour "breaks".</p><p>Columbus, Ohio for the win!</p><p>Google Earth even puts Atlanta a mere 8 hours away!</p></blockquote><p>All that said....I picked D.C.!</p><p>The East Coast shall have it's share of "Dev time" this year...../evillaugh</p>

[Lemley]

Here we go again, only this time there's a different city listed than on the first poll. Here's the deal, the Orlando price of $149 a night isn't very accurate. Even for a posh, cushy hotel on I-Drive like the Sheratin it's $105. There are tons of hotels on I-Drive that are well under $100 and have nice amenities, not to mention I-Drive is literally loaded with little shops and restaurants.

[Tuche]

<p>My apologies in advance.  I assume it's because I have a "newbie" status on these forums I do not have an "edit" option.</p><p>One last little post and I'm done, no more post I promise.</p><p>Take from : <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/quote.m?post_id=4886103&start=15" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/...886103&start=15</a></p><p><cite>Tucheck wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I hear Columbus, Ohio is a GREAT "centralized" city. <p>New York, New York to Columbus, Ohio = 534 mi - about 8 hours 52 mins (#1 - 8,250,567)</p><p>Chicago, Illinois to Columbus, Ohio = 358 mi - about 5 hours 40 mins (#3 - 2,873,326)</p><p>St. Louis, Missouri to Columbus, Ohio = 416 mi - about 6 hours 32 mins (#52 - 353,837)</p><p>Nashville, Tennessee to Columbus, Ohio = 377 mi - about 6 hours 6 mins (#29 - 552,120)</p><p>Richmond, Virginia to Columbus, Ohio = 479 mi - about 7 hours 54 mins (#113 - 192,913)</p><p>Detroit, Michigan to Columbus, Ohio = 202 mi - about 3 hours 31 mins (#11 - 918,849)</p><p>Washington, D.C. to Columbus, Ohio = 419 mi - about 6 hours 49 mins (#^^ - 581,530)</p><p>Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Columbus, Ohio = 469 mi - about 7 hours 41 mins (#6 - 1,448,396)</p><p>Indianapolis, Indiana to Columbus, Ohio = 175 mi - about 2 hours 47 mins (#13 - 785,597)</p><p>Memphis, Tennessee to Columbus, Ohio = 587 mi - about 9 hours 13 mins (just over 8 hour #17 - 670,902)</p><p>Columbus, Ohio = (#15 - 733,203)</p><p>Cleveland, Ohio = (#40 - 444,323)</p><p>Cincinnati, Ohio = (#56 - 332,252)</p><p>Toledo, Ohio, = (#60 - 298,446)</p><p>Total = 10,185,694 (not including NYC)</p><p>Total = 18,436,261</p><p>These examples mean that a total of 13 States would be within a typical 8 - 9 hour drive!</p><p>Think about THAT for a minute!</p></blockquote><cite>Tucheck wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I present to you...the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.columbusconventions.com/info/layout.asp" target="_blank">Greater Columbus Convention Center</a>!  As you will notice in the layout, what's attached to the Convention Center?  Why it's the Hyatt Regency Hotel?</p><p>What's the cost to stay in the Hyatt?  Glad you asked.  As a mock reservation, I decided to check in on November 30th and check out on December 3rd.  Total price....$477 (for a king size bed single occupancy).  This IS a bit steep, but it's comparable to your 3 night stay in Las Vegas (and yes, I KNOW Columbus is no Vegas)</p><p>Let's look at other options for the more frugal traveler.</p><p>At the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://doubletree1.hilton.com/en_US/dt/index.do" target="_blank">Doubletree</a>, just a mere .9 miles from the Convention Center, a 3 night stay will cost a <b>total of $282!</b></p><p>I did a quick search for flights to Vegas using the same dates, and I was surprised to see a nice package for flight AND hotel stay for 3 days.  Then I read the description of the "hotel + flight" bundle being offered for $426.</p><p><b>But why fly at all!</b>  Thats the point of Columbus, Ohio.  It's an 8 hour drive in <b>all</b> directions for 13 States and 19 million people!</p><p>I decided to do a "reverse search" and see what it might cost a player living in Los Angles to fly to Columbus, Ohio using the same dates.  Flights and 3 night stay at the Hyatt was $639.  This was an upgraded option as well, but although I'm okay with being pompous, I didn't want to be a hypocrite.  The flight itself cost $247 (round trip as well).</p><p>Look, I have to be honest here.  I believe that these SOE Fan Faires are usually held "at home" due to cost on logistics.  </p><p>I can only remember ONE time, about 3 years ago ('04 I think), when SWG (not even SOE) held a "get together" in Indianapolis.  I just couldn't get thing situated at home and I missed it, thinking "they" would be back again someday.  They never did come back.</p><p>I don't mean for this to come off as a rant, I really don't.  I just feel that the West Coasters have had their share of "Dev time", and then some.  I cannot fully express how much I would love to attend one of these conventions, but as life changes, my obligations in life have further tightened the restraints that would prevent me from attending a convention....even if there is "always a cheap flight".</p><p>No my friends, even my personal crusade aside, "Columbus, Ohio....just make sense" for the next SOE Fan Faire.</p><p>Thank you for your time and Happy Hunting.</p></blockquote><p>Okay, Okay.....now I'm REALLY done.  I promise I will NOT post another response in this thread.  As you can tell though, this has beena bit of a crusade for me for some time now.</p><p>/smokebomb</p>

[Lemley]

<p>In taking another look, i just plugged Orlando airport to Washington DC into orbitz and came up with a price of only $140 IF the ticket was purchased right now. That's really dirt cheap. Would cost over 400 to fly to vegas, and to attend in Orlando it would be 10 bucks in the gas tank. Obviously why i chose Orlando. The thing is.. airfare to DC is next to nothing, while it would cost around $1000 or more for hotel, taxi's, and food plus souveniers. That's not even including the registration fee to attend fan faire. Am i correct in assuming the cost for Fan Faire is only to attend? Or is the hotel room in the price? </p><p>The place HAS to be chosen soon so that if DC does win we can snag tickets while they're still dirt cheap. </p>

[SG_01]

<cite>Lemleyka wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In taking another look, i just plugged Orlando airport to Washington DC into orbitz and came up with a price of only $140 IF the ticket was purchased right now. That's really dirt cheap. Would cost over 400 to fly to vegas, and to attend in Orlando it would be 10 bucks in the gas tank. Obviously why i chose Orlando. The thing is.. airfare to DC is next to nothing, while it would cost around $1000 or more for hotel, taxi's, and food plus souveniers. That's not even including the registration fee to attend fan faire. Am i correct in assuming the cost for Fan Faire is only to attend? Or is the hotel room in the price? </p><p>The place HAS to be chosen soon so that if DC does win we can snag tickets while they're still dirt cheap. </p></blockquote>I believe that's the room-rate, not the registration fee for Fan Faire, which is something not yet known.

[Vikra_Kli]

Stop with vegas. It's been done before and it's geared to just the West Coast.

[Mache]

<cite>Vikra_Klish wrote:</cite><blockquote>Stop with vegas. It's been done before and it's geared to just the West Coast.</blockquote>QFT, and AMEN!!Lets have it on the East Coast this year.  I am good with Washington DC or Orlando.  Just not Vegas again....

[Kelladry]

I think one of the greatest things about the east coast, is that EVERYTHING is within driving distance...even to go from Maine to Florida, one could do it within 24 hours time if driving straight through and most people here on the east coast probably WOULD drive to Fan Faire if it was on this coast, so the only ones who would pay air fair would be the west coast people and the middle section...And there's so much to do on the east coast too and venues can be found for large events...maybe the team looking for locations isn't looking in the right places.  Ask the locals of those areas...look at what the other guy came up with for Columbus, Ohio....that's great info on just one location (which even there would be great because again, it's within driving distance to New England).  But places like Boston, NYC, Atlantic City, etc...those places all have plenty of room and hotels to accommodate loads of people.  Also, if it is going to be once a year from now on, why not alternate general locations...one year make it west coast, then maybe the middle states and then the east coast and possibly one Europe location for the many who play in other countries or something like that, just to give everyone a chance to make it to the Fan Faire.  Also, maybe alternate north and south or just generalize in the middle of that zone to give everyone a possibility to go...most people would probably drive if giving the option.  It's not fair to always keep in on one side of the world.  Not everyone has the money to fly across country to make it there for it but would like to go...I'm just making observation suggestions...it just seems it's more on the west coast than anywhere else, you have many players in other parts on the US than that, heck other parts of the world.  Give us all a chance, please.  Thank you.  Sorry if this sounded like a rant, just making suggestions is all. -Kelladry

[helix]

<p>Washington D.C.  Baby !,  Hump Day !,  Boo-Ya !,  Can you feel it Baby !</p><p>This is all coming at ya from Boom Boom Washington.  Welcome Back Carter My @$$ !   </p>

[Thrack]

Vegas! Preferably at a hotel with a big enough pool suitable for throwing people in =P

[rangergodde]

Gah this sucks!  I would love to vote for Vegas since Florida and DC are sooooo far away, but SEPTEMBER!!?  2 days after school starts is not a good time for a mom to be leaving town.

[Selerra]

<cite>Kelladry wrote:</cite><blockquote>Also, if it is going to be once a year from now on, why not alternate general locations...one year make it west coast, then maybe the middle states and then the east coast and possibly one Europe location for the many who play in other countries or something like that, just to give everyone a chance to make it to the Fan Faire.  Also, maybe alternate north and south or just generalize in the middle of that zone to give everyone a possibility to go...most people would probably drive if giving the option.  It's not fair to always keep in on one side of the world.  Not everyone has the money to fly across country to make it there for it but would like to go...I'm just making observation suggestions...it just seems it's more on the west coast than anywhere else, you have many players in other parts on the US than that, heck other parts of the world.  Give us all a chance, please.  Thank you.  Sorry if this sounded like a rant, just making suggestions is all. -Kelladry</blockquote><p>They have been alternating sides.  Even recently, they have.  Vegas, New Orleans, Vegas, Atlanta, Vegas... Although, for once, I wish the West Coast one was something other than Vegas (I love Vegas, but not when they don't open up other west coast cities to Fan Faire).  </p><p><span style="font-size: xx-small;color: #99cccc;">And if you argue that Louisiana is a middle state and not East Coast, then I request a West Coast since Vegas is about the same boat, and by that, we haven't had a West Coast Fan Faire since 2002. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span></p>

[Hostel]

While I love seeing democracy in action, I think it would be nice for them to have it this year on the East coast to give us East Coasters a better opprotunity to attend.  Specially since I live about 90 minutes from D.C. I wouldn't have to worry about hotels.  Alternating between an east coast and west coast site every other year makes the most sense to me.  But this is SOE I'm talking about so I guess I'll just wait and see.

[Kelladry]

<span class="name"><b>Selerra </b></span><cite>wrote:</cite><blockquote><span class="postbody">They have been alternating sides.  Even recently, they have.  Vegas, New Orleans, Vegas, Atlanta, Vegas... Although, for once, I wish the West Coast one was something other than Vegas (I love Vegas, but not when they don't open up other west coast cities to Fan Faire). </span></blockquote>This is the list of places according to Tharkis: <span class="postbody"><p>Las Vegas Nevada, November 4-5 2000</p><p>Baltimore Maryland, February 3-4 2001</p><p>San Diego California, April 6-7 2001</p><p>Minneapolis Minnesota, June 15 -16 2001</p><p>Attempted but never held, Pairs France, September 15-16 2001  Cancled due to lack of European intrest in attending.</p><p>Orlando Florida, October 19-20 2001</p><p>Dallas Texas, January 25-26 2002</p><p>Seattle Washington, April 19-20 2002</p><p>Boston Massachusetts,  August 2-3 2002</p><p>San Francisco California, November 8-9 2002</p><p>Las Vegas Nevada, March 28-30 2003</p><p>Chicago Illinois, September 26-28 2003</p><p>Las Vegas Nevada, April 1-4 2004</p><p>New Orleans Louisiana, October 27-30 2004</p><p>Las Vegas Nevada, June 9-11 2005</p><p>Atlanta Georgia, April 6-8 2006</p><p>Las Vegas Nevada, August 2-5 2007</p><p>Now, according to this list, the there was a big gap in East Coast Fan Faire from Aug 2003 to Apr 2006 with 6 Faires in between there, with 4 of them on the West coast (3 in Vegas itself).  Chicago and New Orleans are not east coast...but it's good they had them in the middle states for others to go.  And if they were going to alternate, then this year should be East coast or central states as it was Vegas last year anyway.  I, like many others, would like to experience Fan Faire at least once if possible....would like more than once, but I'll settle for once in my lifetime.</p><p>-Kelladry</p></span>

[Lez]

<p>yep i'm in the midwest as well .. ><</p>

[theatree]

I would love to Indianappolis or Dallas

[Taggerung]

I say mix it up a bit.  Why not Portland, OR in July or August?  We have lots of large areas for things like that and Portland is great too!  Everyone I meet in P-Town that has never been here before loves it.  You could host it in Seattle, WA as well, or down in Olympia, WA  or Eugene, OR.  Eugene or Salem would be a nice choice cause they do a lot of big events down there.  Why does it always have to be in these real big name cities?  I mean, these locations i listed are ones where they are near lots of folk that play.  They are easy to get to, and they have room for all this stuff.  I have never been to one because I never was able to get to them.  I would like to see other places get some love.  Like Vancouver, WA lol (jk)

[Thrini]

<p><span style="font-size: xx-small;">We are coming from Europe. While LV was truly awesome last year, i want to see some other parts of the US first before i go to LV again. So we are voting for Washington!</span></p>

[Magep]

<p>DC! DC! DC!</p><p>WOOT!<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Raki]

<p>Is this going to be like last year when every time Florida took the lead the poll was reset to show Vegas winning? Orlando was already getting screwed with 2 different dates to vote for. If they dont want to have it in Orlando then why even post it? Everyone knows SoE wants FF in Vegas and Vegas only.</p><p>Eff the man! Vote for Florida! *cough paying 1k per vote on Prexus cough*</p>

[Jek]

That would be awsome if it came to Orlando i live near and i wont be able to go to the other two places.

[Raki]

<p>The way I see it. It's been in Vegas way to many times. I know its easiest for SoE but give it a rest. Theres nothing "fun" to do in DC cept maybe look at a statue.</p><p>Florida has a ton of things to do. It might be hot in June but you got alot of beaches to cool yourself off in. Florida makes for a good vaca spot. Fan Faire one day, disney the next, Daytona after that etc.</p>

[Eith]

<p>Washington!</p><p>How about letting fans determine which cities will be considered?  </p><p>Many of us seem to have favored sites.   If a longer lead time were available for Fan Faire we could lobby for specific cities and fans could vote on them.</p>

[ulegi]

I live in NE Florida, have 2 kids and a limited budget.  There's no way we're flying anywhere.  I voted Orlando because I can drive there and that might be the only way we'd ever get to go.  Even Atlanta would be a bit of a stretch, but it is better than any of the others.

[Selerra]

<cite>Kelladry wrote:</cite><blockquote><span class="postbody">, according to this list, the there was a big gap in East Coast Fan Faire from Aug 2003 to Apr 2006 with 6 Faires in between there, with 4 of them on the West coast (3 in Vegas itself).  Chicago and New Orleans are not east coast...but it's good they had them in the middle states for others to go.  And if they were going to alternate, then this year should be East coast or central states as it was Vegas last year anyway.  I, like many others, would like to experience Fan Faire at least once if possible....would like more than once, but I'll settle for once in my lifetime.</span></blockquote>Again, if you say Louisiana and Chicago aren't east coast, than neither is Vegas on the west coast, and thus we've been more ignored than you all.  Compare distances.  Those of us ON the West Coast would like one actually closer to the coast, such as San Diego, San Francisco again, or Portland.

[bigds]

<p>I personally think that vegas would not be fair to the rest of the eq or soe community because people that do not have the money to fly can not go and having it in the same spot 2 years in a row would be degrading soe players by pretty much saying that vegas is the best spot i vote for orlando .......tourist capital of the world then peeps could come see disney, universal and all of the other unique dinner shows and places in florida. not trying to put anyone down but think about your fellow soe players and pick a different place to have it.</p>

[Jo]

<p>I know Vegas sounds like a blast, but it's been done and it'd be nice for a change of coastline (so to speak). I voted Orlando because it's the best climate for the time of year. Vegas is 106 dry heat on the best of days, with little more to do outside of the Fan Faire than gamble. While DC is a beautiful city, it's expensive and congested and honestly, I don't think we should put ourselves that close to the current administration. Orlando is a bit humid, but it's got tons of things to do after dark, especially near the theme parks.</p><p>Come to Orlando. You'll love it. And Starsider pilot (of either faction) get a drink on me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> Josh' </p>

[csbn]

I could not care less where it is held since SOE ignores EQOA customers for all intents and purposes.  Last year the EQOA booth was basically two cobbled together PS2's in a broom closet with hamsters running on wheels to provide the electricity. Based on that I wouldnt care to see any of the other products on display either.

[Cookiekill]

<cite>AmericanDictactor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Fan Faire's are for geeks.</blockquote><p>Geeks  and nerds are the new cool people !</p><p> that been said,  Vegas  would be cool ! the pool party last year was my favourite,  seeping unlimited free drinks while watching half drunk ppl jumping on the stage and  sing like rock stars was fun ^o^  not to mention dacing /chatting with your friends , and jumping into the pool with them in shorts and shirts ! hehe but pleeeease, don't  make it start at 7 pm and end at 10 ... that's hardly enough time  and the night had just begun when the party had to end.</p><p>The dinner party at last night was kinda boring, most of the people from our server left mid way, the ones that stayed for the after dinner party listed on the program (which  never happened)  ended up  going to a strip club --- and oi that's something I will never forget hahaha</p><p>Maybe instead of picking 5 player from 1 game and go up to the stage do something, pick 2 player from each of your game and have them on the same stage and interact with each other . That way players from all of your games would feel invovlved . </p><p> o yah ,,, another thing.... the AC was way too cold @_@ I'm packing a sweater and long pants this time if it's held in Vegas again haha</p>

[thranandandara]

<p>Um, Hello, New York City? City that never sleeps? While you go to caucus with the dorks, your spouse and kids can go see unrivalled art museums, enjoy outdoor cafes and fine dining, poke about in the natural history museum, see the Bronx Zoo, ascend to the top of the Empire State Building, go to a Yankees game, stroll through a vibrant metropolis with activity EVERYWHERE, explore Central Park (and I daresay Prospect Park as well, during daylight hours), and otherwise experience a city continuously occupied for about 400 years, maybe even take a daytrip up in the Hudson Valley, which, as many may know, was early America's foundation for believing this country was specially graced by God for its unparalleled natural beauty.</p><p>No, No, I'm sure it's much more sensible to go to Vegas, a disneyfied ex-brothel, or D.C. a husk of a town, with nothing but the Smithsonian and the Lincoln Memorial to redeem it.</p><p>I don't remember the third option, but, again: New York. The city so great, even the republicans swallowed their BS and came here to party for their party.</p><p>EDIT: Gaaaahh...you're actually considering Orlando? You're kidding, right? /barf</p>

[thranandandara]

<cite>Selerra wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kelladry wrote:</cite><blockquote><span class="postbody">, according to this list, the there was a big gap in East Coast Fan Faire from Aug 2003 to Apr 2006 with 6 Faires in between there, with 4 of them on the West coast (3 in Vegas itself).  Chicago and New Orleans are not east coast...but it's good they had them in the middle states for others to go.  And if they were going to alternate, then this year should be East coast or central states as it was Vegas last year anyway.  I, like many others, would like to experience Fan Faire at least once if possible....would like more than once, but I'll settle for once in my lifetime.</span></blockquote>Again, if you say Louisiana and Chicago aren't east coast, than neither is Vegas on the west coast, and thus we've been more ignored than you all.  Compare distances.  Those of us ON the West Coast would like one actually closer to the coast, such as San Diego, San Francisco again, or Portland.</blockquote>Vegas is a couple of hours from LA. Chicago is over a day's driving from NYC, and obviously further from Boston, and so on.

[Basa]

Why Vegas again? Give people in another part of the country a chance to go. In my opinion it would not be fair to have it in the same place 2 years in a row. It's time for the East coast again, DC is my vote.

[warril]

have it in nebraska so its centered for all lol

[Kela]

<p>Ok, befor you can sugjest a city please name the Hotel that has rooms for 2k people as well as the convention space for it.</p><p>I would love to see a Fan Faire in Sacrmento(my hometown) but we would have to be split between 3 differant Hotels and only 2 of them within walking distance of the Convention Center(wich is NOT part of the Hotel its across the street).</p>

[Thraxx]

I can't vote for any of those. Sorry. New York City is consistently left out of any/all gaming conventions and quite frankly I find it disappointing. I understand there are all these union headaches and whatnot to deal with when it comes to holding a convention in NYC, but really, the sheer number of people you could have attend an event there would more than pay for whatever overhead costs you may incur. Next time please consider NYC... and perhaps next time I might actually think about attending.

[Jyve]

Obviously for next time, SoE needs to pick the exact center of the US, and build a dedicated hotel/convention center for FF.This would have some cool advantages as the hotel could look Freeport, the Convention Center be PoK, and the nightclub Neriak.Leave it up 365 days a year, and make everyday a FF day.

[fred]

I have lived in DC area and would love to go but it's cost prohibitive... just a pricy area to visit. Vegas is easy to get cheap tix to and there are plenty of places for everyone to stay at and enjoy at every price point (check out Station Casinos! A huge value for hotel rooms). Sure it would be two years in a row but the biggest convention in the world, CES, goes to Vegas every year and no one gets upset about that!

[nija]

bah whats with the coasts why not the midwest never been to a fan faire and unless midwest is in the line up looks like fan faire will not be on my list

[nattjo]

<p>Did the voting locations change or something.  Cause I thought we had voted once already.  I remember last week (or two weeks ago) researching when the Cisco Networkers conference was in Orlando and posting about not being the weekend before them if we end up there. So can someone explain what occurred?</p><p>Thanks,</p>

[nattjo]

<p>You know I wonder why Vegas (with all respect) is in the picture considering that was where it was last year.  I would think that if you want to get a different fan input as well as do a proper tour, you would select a different area each year and even plan a year in advance to promote the following years at the current one.</p><p>Just my 2 additional cents.</p>

[nonta-]

well ive decided to go this year , im gonna be coming from england  so im not too fussed where it is , wherever will be a nice break <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Cynb]

<p>Please, please select Orlando.  Give the otherside of the Country a chance to participate in Fan Faire.  I would love to attend and cannot if it is in Vegas or elsewhere.  Too expensive to fly there and the journey would take up more from vacation time, when I could be enjoying the Fan Faire event.  I'm sure others have the same situation.  In addition, to hold Fan Faire in Vegas year after year is just not fair to those on a limited budget that could attend if it were held closer to their home towns.  Give us all a chance.  Please!!!</p><p>Cynbad </p><p>Wood Elf </p><p>Lvl 80 Warden </p><p>Everfrost Server</p><p>Champions of Norrath Guild</p>

[Jag_wi]

I would like to see Dallas or Shreveport in the future. Next year you could look in to Shreveport, because its cheap and they have casinos! Just throwing in my 2 copper. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Tharkis]

As for the whole "Why not New York City?!" argument... well the answer is the same reason that almost no other conventions go their either... it's cost prohibitive.  People dont want to spend 200$+ per night for the hotell room alone.  The only hotells in NYC with large enough convention space to accomodate something like the fan faire are rediculously expensive.  There's no parking anywhere for people who want to drive to the fan faire, etc.

[Lucer]

<p>Hey DC is 45 min from us, and we have a spare bedroom we can rent for a LOT less than you can rent a hotel for.</p><p>However The date for Vegas are our Anniversary weekend....so that works too...</p><p>Zantos and Lucerin </p>

[Ph]

When will we get a chance to vote for a European location, would be nice if could have one that had at least a chance of being able to visit, as long as their only held in America, then will never be able to go to a Fan Faire, as its just too far to travel to. Holding one in the UK would be awesome, much as i dislike France, i'd even go there if there was a Fan Faire held there.

[Raki]

<p>Vegas is on there because despite everything SoE wants to have their Fan Faire's in Vegas. They have had a ton there and know that people will come here and vote for Vegas.</p><p>As for the different poll. They had Orlando split into 2. Which IMO was highly unfair since the votes get split into half. We had 400ish votes then. I'm pretty sure SoE did not broadcast that their poll was reset so the people who did vote do not know to come back.</p>

[Calthine]

<cite>Raki wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Vegas is on there because despite everything SoE wants to have their Fan Faire's in Vegas. They have had a ton there and know that people will come here and vote for Vegas.</p></blockquote>While that may be true, Vegas is also like the convention capital, and it's probably the easiest place to get a booking for an event that pulled in 1300+ people in ONE DAY last year.

[Harrdro]

<p>Las Vegas all the way. Had a blast last year, but please get some more vendors and EQ2 stuff we can buy. I spent all my money on gambling instead of buying EQ2 stuff that i was originaly planning on. Rio was a great choice, and please try to make the whole registration easier this year, like maybe mailing to us badges, goodies and such, instead of waiting in line for over 2 hours. That was my only complaint i had for last year.</p>

[romd]

<p>Born & Raise in Central Florida,I Say OrlandoThen I can just Drive there!</p>

[Klerge]

<p>Vegas!!!</p><p>Id like to see it at the Rio agian this year it was really well planned and awsome fun!</p>

[Raki]

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Raki wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Vegas is on there because despite everything SoE wants to have their Fan Faire's in Vegas. They have had a ton there and know that people will come here and vote for Vegas.</p></blockquote>While that may be true, Vegas is also like the convention capital, and it's probably the easiest place to get a booking for an event that pulled in 1300+ people in ONE DAY last year.</blockquote><p>I dont disagree with SoE wanting it in Vegas. I do however feel like they have manipulated the whole "poll" thing the past couple of years. It's their company and they can do w/e they want wherever they want. But if they want it in Vegas then why start poll's so people can vote where its going to be.</p><p>I could be completely wrong in the fact that they are manipulating it. Last year Orlando was in the lead and everyone was skepticle because for some reason they knew Vegas would win no matter what. Then the polls got "hacked" and there was around 4k+ votes on each city. So they restart the polls and Florida got half the votes of the original poll. The other city at the time (cant remember which) got like 1/4 of their original votes.</p><p>If FF does not come to Florida thats fine. But at least spread it around more. Give others a shot to go and meet the devs, hit on FV, or w/e it is people do at Fan Faire.</p>

[Dik]

<p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #000000;font-family: comic sans ms,sand;">Personally, I think that it should be held somewhere in the midwest. For example, Oklahoma City OK, is probably dead center from everyone. Than there is Springfield MO, they have plenty of room to accomodate, and only 40-45 min from Branson MO; where one could drive down first thing in the morning, get a show in, ride some go-carts, you all get the picture (which is totally family oriented for the people with kids in the first place), and can than get back in time for the evening Fan Faire events. Springfield MO is also a very easy city to navigate. St. Louis MO is another great location, they have a large amount of casinos in the area lately, they almost as big as Vegas now; for all you people dying to have an excuse to get out and gamble. As if Evercrack, errr EverQuest isn't enough for ones addictions. Either way, where ever it is held, I know those that do make it to the Fan Faire are going to have a great time. Stromm FTW.</span></p>

[Mache]

<cite>Raki wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Raki wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Vegas is on there because despite everything SoE wants to have their Fan Faire's in Vegas. They have had a ton there and know that people will come here and vote for Vegas.</p></blockquote>While that may be true, Vegas is also like the convention capital, and it's probably the easiest place to get a booking for an event that pulled in 1300+ people in ONE DAY last year.</blockquote><p>I dont disagree with SoE wanting it in Vegas. I do however feel like they have manipulated the whole "poll" thing the past couple of years. It's their company and they can do w/e they want wherever they want. But if they want it in Vegas then why start poll's so people can vote where its going to be.</p><p>I could be completely wrong in the fact that they are manipulating it. Last year Orlando was in the lead and everyone was skepticle because for some reason they knew Vegas would win no matter what. Then the polls got "hacked" and there was around 4k+ votes on each city. So they restart the polls and Florida got half the votes of the original poll. The other city at the time (cant remember which) got like 1/4 of their original votes.</p><p>If FF does not come to Florida thats fine. But at least spread it around more. Give others a shot to go and meet the devs, hit on FV, or w/e it is people do at Fan Faire.</p></blockquote>Hell if SOE is so keen on having it in Vegas, why even create a poll at all?  If they are biased and steer the convention to Vegas, why not just announce its gonna be in Vegas and save us the frustration of thinking its even going to be held in another city.  Its like every other year its in Vegas, and if my predictions are right this will be the the 2nd time its held in the same city back to back. 

[Amadic]

<p>As I am flying from Ireland most likely I don't care where it is in the States as long as you can have fun. Most europeans will not exactly think of ... fun, excitement, nightlife when they hear "Midwest".<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />  </p><p>As I have still some things to do in Vegas I voted for ... VEGAS! Hope they let me in again o_O</p>

[Mond]

<cite>Amadicia wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As I am flying from Ireland most likely I don't care where it is in the States as long as you can have fun. Most europeans will not exactly think of ... fun, excitement, nightlife when they hear "Midwest".<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />  </p><p>As I have still some things to do in Vegas I voted for ... VEGAS! Hope they let me in again o_O</p></blockquote><p>Oh NO! The Irish are coming??!  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>I hope the Las Vegas hotels have plenty of drink on order....<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>I voted for "Lost Wages" even though last year I managed to come down with a nasty flu virus from the trip. Since I only started yaking AFTER we got back home and into the long term parking lot at the airport I didn't mind. FF is the ONLY thing I will travel for. I HATE traveling.... </p>

[scome]

<p>how about doing the fan faire in the north east some some of them players can have a chance to go</p><p>montpelier vermont</p><p>lebanon New Hampshire</p><p>hanover New Hampshire</p><p>yes the ppl in the north east play to</p><p>thanks and have a great day</p><p>scomes3</p>

[Athra]

<p>/jealous</p><p> Wish we had something like this in Denmark or just Europe <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p> Or that I could find my way to whereever it will be held in the US.</p><p>Gods speed to ya all, reports and pictures from previous Fan Faires always blows my mind!</p><p>Athrael </p><p>Conjuror on Splitpaw server</p>

[thranandandara]

<cite>Tharkis wrote:</cite><blockquote>As for the whole "Why not New York City?!" argument... well the answer is the same reason that almost no other conventions go their either... it's cost prohibitive.  People dont want to spend 200$+ per night for the hotell room alone.  The only hotells in NYC with large enough convention space to accomodate something like the fan faire are rediculously expensive.  There's no parking anywhere for people who want to drive to the fan faire, etc.</blockquote><p>Nonsense. First of all, 200 bucks for a room is nothing, and it is certainly less than what hotel rooms in DC cost. The point is that conventions usually get special rates at hotels because their rooms are going to get filled. I've never been able to find a hotel in DC for under 400 bucks a night that wasn't a hole.</p><p>As for parking, parking is expensive everywhere. Parking in the city isn't cheap, but if you're driving, i presume you're not going to be flying, and so 60 bucks for a few days parking is pretty reasonable (yes, that means you might need to put it in a lot far to the east or west side, and likely uptown rather than in midtown - it's called take a bus or subway, people, you won't get stabbed).</p><p>For the really cheap, stay in a hotel in Jersey and hop the path train right into midtown. There's a Hilton in Newark, attached to the train station. Likewise there are airport hotels that have buses into the city. If you're going to pinch pennies, there are ways to do it.</p><p>And why on earth would you come to NY and use a stupid hotel as your convention space? Ever hear of the Jacob Javits Center? Madison Square Garden?</p><p>There are plenty of ways to do it well and inexpensively in NY, and unlike vegas, DC and (shudder) Orlando, there are actually other things to do here, so, maybe you can get the wife and kids to come along without thinking it's a further waste of time and money for your computer gaming obsession. In which case, even if it does cost a bit more, the utility in return is so much higher, the pro rata cost of fun is far lower in NYC than elsewhere. Got it? Good. Thran for president!</p>

[Selerra]

<cite>scomes3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>how about doing the fan faire in the north east some some of them players can have a chance to go</p><p>montpelier vermont</p><p>lebanon New Hampshire</p><p>hanover New Hampshire</p><p>yes the ppl in the north east play to</p><p>thanks and have a great day</p><p>scomes3</p></blockquote>Washington DC is North East.  (More NE than Vegas is West Coast)

[Tony]

<p>What better excuse for your family, to vacation in Orlando  the "Family Vacation Capital" of the world ......</p><p>and throw in a fan fair while your here !</p><p> tp</p>

[trie]

I voted vegas it is closted to where i live <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[trie]

I voted vegas it is closted to where i live <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Til]

Vegas has been done to death. And although I've had fun everytime I've been to Vegas, I have no plans on going back for another one. I personally don't blame SOE for working the votes for Vegas because it is close to them and is cheaper for them, But I voted for Orlando. I'd like to see something in the Ohio, KY, Indiana or PA area too..

[Dess]

FFS, don't like Vegas? Then don't come. See how simple it is. I'm pretty sure everyone of you can access Vegas.com and plan a [Removed for Content] trip. Book and save some money then we don't have to hear you whin about how expensive it is. It's not expensive and where else are you going to go and have the opportunity to leave a city with more money than when you came?

[Revu]

<b><span style="font-size: xx-large;"><i>VEGAS!!</i></span></b>

[Tharkis]

<cite>Mondas wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Amadicia wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As I am flying from Ireland most likely I don't care where it is in the States as long as you can have fun. Most europeans will not exactly think of ... fun, excitement, nightlife when they hear "Midwest".<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />  </p><p>As I have still some things to do in Vegas I voted for ... VEGAS! Hope they let me in again o_O</p></blockquote><p>Oh NO! The Irish are coming??!  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>I hope the Las Vegas hotels have plenty of drink on order....<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>I voted for "Lost Wages" even though last year I managed to come down with a nasty flu virus from the trip. Since I only started yaking AFTER we got back home and into the long term parking lot at the airport I didn't mind. FF is the ONLY thing I will travel for. I HATE traveling.... </p></blockquote>Worse than the Irish!  He's German ! =D  And you'll only be welcome back to vegas if you avoid Jyve, Rob's nothing but trouble !(then again I'm Scottish, Irish, and German myself =) )

[Mache]

<cite>Dessus wrote:</cite><blockquote>FFS, don't like Vegas? Then don't come. See how simple it is. I'm pretty sure everyone of you can access Vegas.com and plan a *bleep* trip. Book and save some money then we don't have to hear you whin about how expensive it is. It's not expensive and where else are you going to go and have the opportunity to leave a city with more money than when you came?</blockquote><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />Well lets see... Hmmm some of us WENT TO VEGAS LAST FANFAIRE and would like ANOTHER location to give it some VARIETY... You know that thing that doesn't make things BORING..  Aka the spice of life... But why would I want that when I can just jump on the whole "lets do vegas again" bandwagon...<img src="/station/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Blondie9]

personally i wish they would choose Phoenix AZ for a fanfaire.  I have yet to see a fanfaire come into arizona.  i can't really afford to travel much but i would love to see a fan faire come to near or close to where i live without having to pay for travel expenses

[Biscuit]

Start listing locations outside the USA then maybe we'll talk.

[Calthine]

<cite>Blondie987 wrote:</cite><blockquote>personally i wish they would choose Phoenix AZ for a fanfaire.  I have yet to see a fanfaire come into arizona.  i can't really afford to travel much but i would love to see a fan faire come to near or close to where i live without having to pay for travel expenses</blockquote>I think just about every player can make that statement <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Slest]

<p>I'd love to go to a fan faire...but then I don't plan on paying money to fly to one...if i'm going to pay for airfare, I might as well take a much needed vacation with the family...since I live smack dab in the middle of Kansas there goes driving to one. Because they are always East coast or West coast... So I guess i'll just have to enjoy looking at other people that went pictures and listening to their stories...</p>

[Beadil]

<p>I need an excuse to go to <img src="http://www.goingtovegas.com/gtv-analink.gif" alt="" width="100" height="30" border="0" /></p><p>Voted VEGAS all the way.</p><p> Beadil</p>

[Munc]

I'd have to say none of thee above... somewhere in the midwest would be nice for a change. Denver? Kansas? St. Louis?  Don't think i'll ever attend one till it can be w/i 15 hour drive or so from ND. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Kela]

<cite>thranandandara wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Tharkis wrote:</cite><blockquote>As for the whole "Why not New York City?!" argument... well the answer is the same reason that almost no other conventions go their either... it's cost prohibitive.  People dont want to spend 200$+ per night for the hotell room alone.  The only hotells in NYC with large enough convention space to accomodate something like the fan faire are rediculously expensive.  There's no parking anywhere for people who want to drive to the fan faire, etc.</blockquote><p>Nonsense. First of all, 200 bucks for a room is nothing, and it is certainly less than what hotel rooms in DC cost. The point is that conventions usually get special rates at hotels because their rooms are going to get filled. I've never been able to find a hotel in DC for under 400 bucks a night that wasn't a hole.</p><p>As for parking, parking is expensive everywhere. Parking in the city isn't cheap, but if you're driving, i presume you're not going to be flying, and so 60 bucks for a few days parking is pretty reasonable (yes, that means you might need to put it in a lot far to the east or west side, and likely uptown rather than in midtown - it's called take a bus or subway, people, you won't get stabbed).</p><p>For the really cheap, stay in a hotel in Jersey and hop the path train right into midtown. There's a Hilton in Newark, attached to the train station. Likewise there are airport hotels that have buses into the city. If you're going to pinch pennies, there are ways to do it.</p><p>And why on earth would you come to NY and use a stupid hotel as your convention space? Ever hear of the Jacob Javits Center? Madison Square Garden?</p><p>There are plenty of ways to do it well and inexpensively in NY, and unlike vegas, DC and (shudder) Orlando, there are actually other things to do here, so, maybe you can get the wife and kids to come along without thinking it's a further waste of time and money for your computer gaming obsession. In which case, even if it does cost a bit more, the utility in return is so much higher, the pro rata cost of fun is far lower in NYC than elsewhere. Got it? Good. Thran for president!</p></blockquote><p>Name ONE Medium size convention that happens in NYC, I bet you can't name one. Why because there is no place to hold a Medium Size convention, because NYC gets more then enough Tourists who just want to vist NYC that they don't need to compete for the Medium Size conventions. While I am shure that NYC does host Large Conventions that accually would Utilize the Javits Center or MSG, The SoE Fan Fair is too small to get a slot in those places, basicly when SoE calls any venue in NYC either they get a figure of like $250 a night in the extreem Off Season, like say January or they just get laught at.</p><p>Heck the only reason we have a Chance at DC is because it IS the Off Season thier and DC because it is the Hub of US Politics it certain conventions Have to happen thier. </p><p>As for having Nothing to do in Vegas, Orlando or DC compaired to NYC. You are very miss informed.</p><p>Night life - The winner is Vegas, the total Night life(not counting gambling) in 3 Vegas Hotel/Casinos  is greater then all of Manhaten</p><p>Family orianted entertainment - Orlando - Um you can't beat Disney World for Family entertainment and thats only one set of Family Entertainment Centers In Orlando. </p><p>Touristy Sites to see - Winner Washington DC, Heck the Smithsonian alone beats all the Touristy Sites in NYC.</p><p>And thats just each of these cities strong suits. Both Orlando and DC have extencive Nightlife Oppertunities, While DC and Vegas both have Tons of Family Orianted stuff to do.</p>

[Raki]

Orlando has (IMO) a ton more family oriented sites then both DC and Vegas. Vegas is aimed more towards adults then anything and DC is more historical. I dont see to many people traveling alone to go to Fan Faire. My bet is 75% of the people wanting to fly out to a Fan Faire will be bringing family so they can make a vacation out of it. In that instance how could you not vote Orlando?

[Til]

<cite>Dessus wrote:</cite><blockquote>FFS, don't like Vegas? Then don't come. See how simple it is. I'm pretty sure everyone of you can access Vegas.com and plan a *bleep* trip. Book and save some money then we don't have to hear you whin about how expensive it is. It's not expensive and where else are you going to go and have the opportunity to leave a city with more money than when you came?</blockquote>I never said I didn't like vegas in fact I love it, and it sure isn't because I can't afford it. I retired at 45 years old, Money isn't the issue... The fan faire has been in Vegas many many times... And while I love my family, I don't want to spend Christmas at their house every year.

[Cantr]

<cite>imax wrote:</cite><blockquote>VEGAS!!!!   Its Cheap to get to, and cheap to stay at, and tons of stuff to do while your there.  Vegas is the most friendly, which is why ever poll so far it has been winning.</blockquote><p>I don't know why everyone says Vegas is cheap to get to.   Just looked on travelocity, comparing my starting location to Orlando, and to Vegas.</p><p>Orlando </p><p>June 25th, june 29$303 Round trip</p><p>Vegassep 3rd, sep 7</p><p>$435 round trip</p><p>I could afford 1 maybe 2 nights hotel on the money i save going to orlando. </p>

[SG_01]

<p>For me the difference between Orlando and Vegas don't seem all that big though... (Based on flying in a day before, and departing a day after):</p><p>Orlando730.42 EURVegas734.33 EURWashington DC537.82 EUR</p><p>At any rate, June is still a no-go for me <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Shft]

personally i dont care where its held i voted for DC thouhg . Closer to home =)_ Only thing id really like to see is more forgotten children based stuuf ( i play Planetside) and more people from my game there . Had fun with some of you in vegas this past summer but we had a pitiful draw. Some fo you fine folks from other games were more than nice to us scrubs, i wish to see you all at this next one as i hope to be there no matter where it is. Planetsiders Unite get there show them we still care please.

[esorm]

<p>How sad, it looks like there will never be an east coast option <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Yes I know DC is an option but Vegas looks like the way it is going to be every year <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Calthine]

<cite>esormaj wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>How sad, it looks like there will never be an east coast option <img src="/station/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></p><p>Yes I know DC is an option but Vegas looks like the way it is going to be every year <img src="/station/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></p></blockquote>I dunno, if you look at it, more people don't want Vegas than want Vegas.  Wait, we've had presidential elections work that way too, lol.  I think one of the major draws of Vegas, besides it being budget-friendly if you look around, is the draw of non-Fan Faire related entertainment.I would also like kid stuff.  Man, find a hotel with an overstaff childcare center and you'd get a heck of a turnout!  One thing to remember is the now much older MMO demographic tends to have kids, lol.

[mattador]

i dont know how many of you people have actually gone to one of these events but more then half the time your there is spent doing things in the city its in.  I dont want to hear no bs about going to art shows or historic locations for whatever other towns people bring up.  The reality is that there are only a few places that people would actually consider making a vacation to.  For the family part, i hate to break it to you but the entire convention is hardly designed for younger people.   Many of the actual SOE sponsored activities are 21 and up and most of the attendees are well over 25.  Vegas is specifically built to hold events like this, orlando maybe but most other places just dont have anything to offer.

[Cantr]

I find it strange that people who want to attend fan faire (not for their families) want OTHER things to do other than fan faire.  I got to attend the atlanta fan faire, and i had WAY too much to do during fan faire.  There wasn't time to worry about what else there was going on in atlanta. I ran from one event and conference to another.  By the time fan faire was over, i was pooped.  All i saw from atlanta was the city streets at night as i walked from the convention center to the drunken dance floor and back.  Why would i need casinos that i can waste money in when i can use that money to buy fan faire stuff?  I am going to fan faire for FAN FAIRE, not to gamble.

[Glueb]

<cite>Raki wrote:</cite><blockquote>Orlando has (IMO) a ton more family oriented sites then both DC and Vegas. Vegas is aimed more towards adults then anything and DC is more historical. I dont see to many people traveling alone to go to Fan Faire. My bet is 75% of the people wanting to fly out to a Fan Faire will be bringing family so they can make a vacation out of it. In that instance how could you not vote Orlando?</blockquote>I don't have kids. (Thank the lord it stays this way) I have seen D.C. (Not a clean place, and I would be in front of the White House [Removed for Content] to much and would get arrested) I live in Vegas... Guess what I picked <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Gilliads]

I also vote none of the above since I cannot attend any of the above locations...  New Orleans would have been a good choice or maybe even Houston...  Wasn't last year's in Vegas??

[Kulz]

Philadelphia, Pa sometime in 2002 or 2003 I forget when.

[Kulz]

BTW this vote is a sham Vegas is already the decision that's why it has been stacked against the east coast by dividing the votes between 2 cities.

[Mache]

I also feel that this vote is a BS.  Its funny how SO MANY people vote for Vegas.  I would imagine that if they did a poll without VEGAS as the location we would be having a totally different opinion about this.  From what I am learning it seems SOE WANTS to steer it to Vegas.  So I will say it again... Why have this poll at all.  Just announce its going to be in Vegas and be done with it. 

[Igie]

<cite>Cantril wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>imax wrote:</cite><blockquote>VEGAS!!!!   Its Cheap to get to, and cheap to stay at, and tons of stuff to do while your there.  Vegas is the most friendly, which is why ever poll so far it has been winning.</blockquote><p>I don't know why everyone says Vegas is cheap to get to.   Just looked on travelocity, comparing my starting location to Orlando, and to Vegas.</p><p>Orlando </p><p>June 25th, june 29$303 Round trip</p><p>Vegassep 3rd, sep 7</p><p>$435 round trip</p><p>I could afford 1 maybe 2 nights hotel on the money i save going to orlando. </p></blockquote><p>I don't know where your starting location is, but I can tell you that sounds a bit much. I have made a lot of trips to and from Vegas (I live here and fly to many different locations across the US) and it has never costed me more then $300 round trip. Most of the time it runs about $200-$225 for tickets. A word of advice if looking into it, check out the airline sites themselves. Travelocity for instance only covers about 30% of the flights to/from Las Vegas. There are a lot of smaller airlines that do not use those services. A lot of the airlines here also run specials on their websites as well that they make with the casinos and resorts here that they are only allowed to advertise on their own website.</p><p>Bottom line though, Expedia/Priceline/Travelocity/Orbitz/Etc are the worst places to get travel prices for Vegas. Definately look outside the spectrum of normal on-line planning for vacations.</p><p>As I have said before, if it does end up here again, I will be more then willing to help people out on the travel end of things (finding deals, etc).</p>

[Trian]

<cite>Machete wrote:</cite><blockquote>I also feel that this vote is a BS.  Its funny how SO MANY people vote for Vegas.  I would imagine that if they did a poll without VEGAS as the location we would be having a totally different opinion about this.  </blockquote><p>Uh..well ya...people wouldn't be able to vote for Vegas, so <b>of course</b> the poll would be a totally different opinion. :/</p><p>From people I talked to, a lot of people had fun in Vegas, so could be why it's so high in the votes.  I do think that the location has already been chosen and that the poll is kind of to keep us busy until the finalize details.  But I doubt they would stack the poll so that Vegas had more votes then the others....</p>

[Raki]

<cite>Kulzip wrote:</cite><blockquote>BTW this vote is a sham Vegas is already the decision that's why it has been stacked against the east coast by dividing the votes between 2 cities.</blockquote><p>I'm gonna agree with this. If you threw in say Seattle or another west coast city Vegas would be out at least 100-200 votes. The first poll this year had Orlando split into 2 and a DC time. Thats 3 different east coast cities vs the one Vegas.</p><p>At the time of this post east coast combined is 611 votes vs Vegas 531. So more east coasters are obviously voting. But since we are split it does'nt show that way.</p>

[Auroz]

<p>Sounds to me that too many people want to use the excuse of fan faire to take a vacation and do their own thing. Complaining that there isn't enough to do in vegas, that orlando is better for families... please, as others have said.. if you are going to fan faire, go to fan faire and you will be busy 100% of the time its held.</p><p> Why would they choose a location for little kids or pay attention to what other stuff is around if they are planning a FAIRE that has something going on every minute for the people that play the game.</p><p> I can't gamble or drink or anything 21+ in vegas, am I crying? No, because I am going FOR fan faire and if I choose to spend extra days in vegas, its my choice and my problem to find something to do.</p><p>If you want a lil family vacation or a friends night out then take one, don't complain that fan faire isn't supporting you because that's not what its about.</p><p>And I was SO glad I hardly noticed any children last year. THANK YOU! Take your diapers to Disney Land and don't use fan faire as an excuse to get your family out and then complain about the loc.</p>

[Bara]

<cite>Raki wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kulzip wrote:</cite><blockquote>BTW this vote is a sham Vegas is already the decision that's why it has been stacked against the east coast by dividing the votes between 2 cities.</blockquote><p>I'm gonna agree with this. If you threw in say Seattle or another west coast city Vegas would be out at least 100-200 votes. The first poll this year had Orlando split into 2 and a DC time. Thats 3 different east coast cities vs the one Vegas.</p><p>At the time of this post east coast combined is 611 votes vs Vegas 531. So more east coasters are obviously voting. But since we are split it does'nt show that way.</p></blockquote><p>Lay off the conspiracies folks. It is just business. SOE is not going to hold a FF when and where people are not able to attend because of time or cost.  Though I do hope SOE pays more attention to the votes of people who have attended past FF than those who just log in once to whine about how it is rigged and should be held in their back yard. The main reason I avoid SOE's message board is the "whine to I.Q." ratio is almost always 90% or more "whine" to a vanishingly small ammount of I.Q.  </p><p>But then, I voted and I'm gone from here; so whine away for another year.....  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Selerra]

<p>As much as I miss not having any West Coast Fan Faires (no, I don't consider it West Coast), Vegas is the best location for Fan Faire that I've attended.</p><p>There's always something to do.  Always something to see.  Atlanta would have been very boring if it wasn't for the room parties I was invited to.  It was also far more expensive to get to.</p>

[Dal]

<p>I picked Vegas because it is more fun for the buck.</p><p>I would be hip on the eastern side of the states if you can get as NICE place that Rio was last year for that same amount of money at the other places.  The Rio last year was a VERY nice hotel.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[gduststrid]

Vegas!  Not too far!  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Kiara_thefir]

<p><span style="color: #cc99ff;">* waves her vegas on my birthday flag again *</span></p>

[HellsWra]

I vote DC. Its a great city and while it is no Vegas there is plenty to do in the city.

[Elrohin]

For those that mentioned/were thinking New Orleans.... won't happen anytime soon. You can't fly to New Orleans from within 200 miles for less than $200 hardly ever. And unless touring rubble sounds appealing, you won't have much to look forward to doing outside the French Quarter. A few other locations would be nice, but as it looks like it'll be vegas again, and I've not had the opportunity to go to vegas in about 10 years, I wouldn't mind going.

[Bleoch]

<p>Vegas would be the ideal pick for the most amount of people.  Cheaper than any other place, has more to do, and has more appeal. Which is really what you are looking for in an event.</p><p>Personally I would like to see San Diego on the ballot, but Vegas will do! </p>

[Calthine]

<cite>Elrohinar wrote:</cite><blockquote>For those that mentioned/were thinking New Orleans.... won't happen anytime soon. You can't fly to New Orleans from within 200 miles for less than $200 hardly ever. </blockquote>Hahahahaha!Hon, I can't leave my STATE for less than $300. 

[Dark]

<p>two east coast locations and one west coast...so of course west coast is going to win...kind of unfair poll if you ask me</p><p>why not put one in vegas, one in cali, and then one in DC and washington....nielsen would never stand for this i tell you</p>

[Basa]

I have to say it again since I see that Vegas is ahead. Hey, Vegas would be great but you need to spread it out a little. Bring it back to the East coast! It is not fair for those of us that cannot buy a ticket and fly out there. They had it in Vegas last year! Why not do West one year, Central next and the East. Is that to easy?

[Lalaminu]

<p>It has gotten to the point that no matter what city is on the poll people are going to post to say they want it some where else.</p><p>Honestly it is getting rather old. </p><p>Vote or don't vote, of course the choice is yours, and if you do not like the location that ends up winning, well..no one is going to force you to fly out and attend the function. </p><p>It is impossible to make everyone happy when it comes to things like this, heck I would want it in my home town too so I wouldn't have to travel, but that is just being <b>unrealistic</b> and <b>selfish</b>.</p><p>What is the point of posting on here wanting a new list of cities and expecting them to comply to what everyone wants? They do not have to put on these fan faires at all. It's great that they try and let us pick the next city out of their choices for the poll. If Vegas wins again then it does and if you want to go to fan faire then head on out, if you don't like the choice then don't go, there is no need to whine on the boards.</p><p>I understand the displeasure for the people overseas not being able to have a fan faire or attend one here in the states, but honestly who is stopping you from having your own fan fair over there? I am sure SOE could and would work something out it just takes one person willing to get it rolling. I wouldn't attend one overseas, but I can say I wouldn't be coming here to the boards complaining about it. I just wouldn't go. Plain and Simple.</p><p>These fan faires are <b>optional</b> and <b>not </b>a requirement to attend so what is the big deal where it is going to be held? I go to fan faire for information about the games I play, to meet and talk with the developers and maybe throw an idea or two their way to consider. I come to fan faire to meet my fellow players in person, to put a real life face to the avatar. People forget that this may be a game but there are living beings behind those avatars.</p><p>I am not going to post on here and complain that they did not pick a city near where I wanted to go. Nor am I going to post that I can't afford it if it is somewhere I do not want to go, or demand that they put on functions for the kids that might attend, HELLO..your supposed to be 18+ to play. If you want to bring your family to an event like that, then that is your progative, but it shouldn't be forced on those that came for just fan faire.</p><p>Like I said before I do not care where they hold it, if I can attend then great! If I cann't go, then maybe next year!!</p><p>Why come here and make everyone else miserable in reading all the complaining posts that just keep going?</p><p>Oh and before someone points this out that I do not have to read the posts either. You would be right in that, but when there are 13 pages so far you cant help but read some of them and I am sure a few out there will want to tear apart my opinion and tell me how wrong I am, honestly I can care less about that anymore.</p><p>All I care about is that SoE makes a effort to improve on mistakes made in fan faires past, to make it worth my while to attend and have a good time.</p>

[Basa]

<p> Group activity leader Lalaminu, my hand is raised! </p><p>People are allowed to think what they want about where the Faire is held. For you to say that people are selfish and unrealistic is quite pompus. Your post is also quite long for someone that is not complaining. You also state you don't care about what people think about your opinion, but you obviously do or would not have said that. If you don't want anyone tearing up your opinion then don't tear apart theirs.</p><p>I would love to rip apart your post but I have more important things to do, like clean the litter box.</p>

[rogn]

<p>It would be nice to see a east coast or midwest site chosen. Last years was in vegas which is nice for the west coast but much harder to plan a visit from the eastern half of the country. Give us right coasters a fair shake.</p><p><img src="http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/215/easy2sig525finalez6.jpg" alt="" width="525" height="225" border="0" /></p>

[mattador]

it only costs 100 bucks more to fly from NY to Las vegas then it does to fly from NY to FL.  food for thought, were only talking about a marginal difference in travel expenses in this day and age.  I think they make special concessions for the high volume of travel to Las vegas or something.  Its pretty cheap.

[Tenol]

<cite>Basalt wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> Group activity leader Lalaminu, my hand is raised! </p><p>People are allowed to think what they want about where the Faire is held. For you to say that people are selfish and unrealistic is quite pompus. Your post is also quite long for someone that is not complaining. You also state you don't care about what people think about your opinion, but you obviously do or would not have said that. If you don't want anyone tearing up your opinion then don't tear apart theirs.</p><p>I would love to rip apart your post but I have more important things to do, like clean the litter box</p></blockquote><p> <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p><cite>Basalt wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>They had it in Vegas last year! Why not do West one year, Central next and the East. Is that to easy?</blockquote>Apparently, yes. It has been in Vegas many times. I've been to 2 or 3 (or maybe more since i've lost count) of them in Vegas and that doesn't count last year. The last one I went to was in Atlanta a couple years ago.

[Cantr]

<cite>mattador wrote:</cite><blockquote>it only costs 100 bucks more to fly from NY to Las vegas then it does to fly from NY to FL.  food for thought, were only talking about a marginal difference in travel expenses in this day and age.  I think they make special concessions for the high volume of travel to Las vegas or something.  Its pretty cheap.</blockquote>I'm glad to hear that $100 is a marginal amount of money for you.  For me $100 is room and board for a night.  For me, that $100 becomes $200 because two of us will be going.  $200 is now 2 maybe 3 nights stay in a hotel.  What about if i brought my entire family... then we are talking $400 difference.  is $400 still marginal?  not everyone can just toss an extra $100 down the tubes like you can. 

[Aquao]

<cite>Cantril wrote:</cite><blockquote>I find it strange that people who want to attend fan faire (not for their families) want OTHER things to do other than fan faire.  I got to attend the atlanta fan faire, and i had WAY too much to do during fan faire.  There wasn't time to worry about what else there was going on in atlanta. I ran from one event and conference to another.  By the time fan faire was over, i was pooped.  All i saw from atlanta was the city streets at night as i walked from the convention center to the drunken dance floor and back.  Why would i need casinos that i can waste money in when i can use that money to buy fan faire stuff?  I am going to fan faire for FAN FAIRE, not to gamble.</blockquote><p>Pull your heads outa your back sides for a moment and have self controle? SOE puts these things on for us to learn about the games and give them ideas. Its a plus that they plan for it to be in a city where we can have a good time with our friends we play the games with. Not to bust your bubble. But not all of us want to attend EVERY discussion and would like our vacation to include something more than discussions and fan faire. SOE is putting these on to give everyone the chance to listen to all of thier info and or have a good time on the side. WIN/ WIN. You run to every discussion you want and leave us party animals to attend the ones we care about. =)</p><p>I always say.....If the world revolved around each and every one of you. No one would be happy. Because when its the next persons turn for the wold to revolve around them. Then you would be upset. Last but not least......If your 18 and over you should have the mentality to know you have a brain. You decide what you do durring these events and you are the only one who can decide that. If you choose not to gamble, play at Disney world or go out and drink. Thats on you. Everything doesnt go your way and never will. Get used to it. </p>

[Elen]

Forget location for a sec... and look at the dates.  Sept 4-7 will suck because that's when school starts for most children so it pretty much eliminates a lot of people, such as myself.  I can't go if it's that date range because I have school age kids to take care of.

[Elen]

<cite>Darken wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>two east coast locations and one west coast...so of course west coast is going to win...kind of unfair poll if you ask me</p><p>why not put one in vegas, one in cali, and then one in DC and washington....nielsen would never stand for this i tell you</p></blockquote>Nielsen?  Only thing I think of is AC Nielsen.

[startingover1]

<cite>sgtrein wrote:</cite><blockquote>Reno Nevada, 30 bucks per night.. </blockquote>Not to mention I know some great trout spots in the Truckee...

[Jac]

<cite>startingover101 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>sgtrein wrote:</cite><blockquote>Reno Nevada, 30 bucks per night.. </blockquote>Not to mention I know some great trout spots in the Truckee...</blockquote>And I know the hottest clubs downtown <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Party in the Biggest Little City!

[starwarsda]

<p>Vegas Fan Faire:</p><p> #1: Dates are in September.  Hello, bonus! More time to get your dates planned and time off together. For some like myself, I need to plan 6 months in advance for my job to get off.</p><p> #2: Cheapest prices!</p><p> #3: Kidss are in school.  I don't know how many of you guys actaully been to a Fan Faire but the crods tend to gear to the older people.</p><p>Just my two cents</p>

[Kelladry]

     So what I seem to be hearing is that people who have kids (possible future SOE gamers), college students, and people who don't like to gamble or hang out in bars and such all night don't matter here.  That we aren't aloud to enjoy Fan Faire because we have kids or because some are students themselves trying to better their lives by going to college and making a future for themselves.       My kids enjoy watching my husband and I play EQ, we've even let them play our characters a bit to see what it's like, they can't wait til they are old enough to have their own accounts.  I told them about Fan Faire, they love the idea of dressing in costume (which our family loves dressing up for Halloween and medieval faires and such) and meeting the other players in the game and doing live quests and stuff like that.  They said they'd love to go someday... thought maybe I would be able to let them attend one so they could see (Plus, I have no one to really watch them for the weekend, not everyone is so willing to leave their kids in other's care these days).  Eventually the "<span class="postbody">older people" as you say, stop playing...you'll need the younger generation to take their place.       And about planning, why not start making decisions for the next one right after the last one to give people more time to prepare, instead of waiting months later...events like these can be </span><span class="postbody">schedule </span><span class="postbody">a year or more </span><span class="postbody">in advance </span><span class="postbody">easily with the hotels, convention centers and such...if it's decided a month or two after the last one then that gives SOE time to get everything together, the people attending time to save up the money and time to request time off work and such.       Well, I see it looks like I will not be attending these things til I'm an "old person" then...if I ever get to go at all.-Kelladry</span>

[Jag_wi]

The first time I went to Vegas I was 20 years old and had my 6mo. old child with me.  This wasn't a planned trip by no means we were in the area and decided just to go.  We had fun, just pushing the baby in the stroller, and she loved all the lights.  You would be really surprised how many familes you see there.  <a href="http://www.lasvegaskids.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.lasvegaskids.net</a> is a website I think someone posted last year for those that wanted to bring the kids. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Jag_wi]

<a href="http://www.kidsinvegas.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.kidsinvegas.com/</a> or maybe it was this one. Theres a few that show the kid friendly Vegas. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Raki]

<p>I think east coasters complain because FF is more uncommon on the east coast. So we will throw anything out there to help sway your thinking and your votes.</p><p>Vegas/west coast have no problems becuase they know without a doubt Sony wants to have it in Vegas. So they can come here and say east coast is [Removed for Content] or whining or whatever.</p><p>Fact of the matter is Fan Faire does'nt come here as often. And more people are into it nowadays. So of course East coast is gonna fight it to the end. The dates are also better for east coast. Its summer time. Even if you leave the kids at home its easier to find a baby sitter.</p><p> Besides all of this I am pretty sure 90% of the EQ community needs to get some sun. So vote Orlando! You cant get a tan from the artificial lights in vegas.</p>

[Selerra]

Again, what West Coast Fan Faire?  There hasn't been one for a long time. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Stop calling Vegas 'West Coast'.  It's Western side of the US, yes, but it's an extremely long drive from where I sit on the West Coast.  Trust me, I carpooled it last year. Ha ha.

[Nosnib]

I'm sure Vegas is fun and all...but what about all the east coast players that can't really travel all the way to Vegas? Why not have both? or alternate each year...

[Meric]

<p>Why is there so much hating going on?  I would love to have the Fan Faire in Albuquerque, but I don't see that on the list. What can I say, you can't please everyone.  I went to Vegas last year and I want to go back if that's where it ends up at. I have never been to DC either, would loveto visit some day.  Orlando, well..moving on...but to quote a famous person "Why can't we all jsut get along?"</p><p>VOTE VEGAS  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Lup]

Voted for Vegas! Never been there.. should be good times! =)

[Mond]

<cite>Elenil wrote:</cite><blockquote>Forget location for a sec... and look at the dates.  Sept 4-7 will suck because that's when school starts for most children so it pretty much eliminates a lot of people, such as myself.  I can't go if it's that date range because I have school age kids to take care of.</blockquote><p>Military Boarding School??  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Seriously, finding someone to look after our dog for last years was a big enoug hassle. Kids are just about 100 times more of a problem.</p><p>I bet if your kids were offered the choice of a day or 2 out of class to go to FF they would jump at the chance. Heck when I was a kid I would have gone almost anywhere to avoid class.  I remember one guy in school who had to take a day off to fly to a Cotillion!! Man, we all felt sorry for him.   <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Family pressure can be an ugly thing, and as the parent it is time you start applying it to your kids.   <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> </p>

[SG_01]

<cite>Kelladry wrote:</cite><blockquote>     So what I seem to be hearing is that people who have kids (possible future SOE gamers), college students, and people who don't like to gamble or hang out in bars and such all night don't matter here.  That we aren't aloud to enjoy Fan Faire because we have kids or because some are students themselves trying to better their lives by going to college and making a future for themselves.       My kids enjoy watching my husband and I play EQ, we've even let them play our characters a bit to see what it's like, they can't wait til they are old enough to have their own accounts.  I told them about Fan Faire, they love the idea of dressing in costume (which our family loves dressing up for Halloween and medieval faires and such) and meeting the other players in the game and doing live quests and stuff like that.  They said they'd love to go someday... thought maybe I would be able to let them attend one so they could see (Plus, I have no one to really watch them for the weekend, not everyone is so willing to leave their kids in other's care these days).  Eventually the "<span class="postbody">older people" as you say, stop playing...you'll need the younger generation to take their place.       And about planning, why not start making decisions for the next one right after the last one to give people more time to prepare, instead of waiting months later...events like these can be </span><span class="postbody">schedule </span><span class="postbody">a year or more </span><span class="postbody">in advance </span><span class="postbody">easily with the hotels, convention centers and such...if it's decided a month or two after the last one then that gives SOE time to get everything together, the people attending time to save up the money and time to request time off work and such.       Well, I see it looks like I will not be attending these things til I'm an "old person" then...if I ever get to go at all.-Kelladry</span></blockquote><p>I don't think this is true at all. There where kids at Las Vegas Fan Faire last year, some even dressed up. Sure they weren't allowed to participate in some areas, but they could go to most of the events. (The events where kids were not allowed where all scheduelled in the late evening, btw.)</p><p><img src="http://web.sg01.net/subtext/images/web_sg01_net/subtext/12/r_SV100182.JPG" alt="" width="360" height="480" border="0" /> <-- Picture I took at last Fan Faire in Vegas.</p><p>Aside from that, even if I wanted to gamble at Fan Faire last year, there was really no time for that. I was soo bussy going everywhere, I barely even had time to eat breakfast or lunch, since I didn't want to skip out on stuff. Outside of Fan Faire, yes most things are less suited for kids, however there are still things for kids to do. There is a casino / hotel called Circus Circus there that has a whole section where kids can play. There are a lot of shows around you can go to, which are also suitable for kids.</p><p>The only problem I can see is that casino's will generally not accept reservations without an adult staying. So if you're younger than 21, and wish to stay there, you'll have to find someone to share rooms with who is old enough, or find a hotel that does accept such reservations.</p>

[vdi]

Is anytime soon fan fair will be coming to Canada???

[SG_01]

<cite>Selerra wrote:</cite><blockquote>Again, what West Coast Fan Faire?  There hasn't been one for a long time. <img src="/station/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />  Stop calling Vegas 'West Coast'.  It's Western side of the US, yes, but it's an extremely long drive from where I sit on the West Coast.  Trust me, I carpooled it last year. Ha ha.</blockquote>You can't even drive it form the west coast I'm at. Then again, I'm on the west coast of Europe <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Epicedi]

voted Las Vegas. see ya there

[Journ]

<p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff9900;font-family: comic sans ms,sand;">Voted for Vegas as it is cheapest to fly into and the dates work best for my vacation.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff9900;font-family: Comic Sans MS;">Seriously is Chicago, Detroit, Cleaveland, Indianapolis all too small for SoE?  Why can't the mid-west get some love?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ff9900;font-family: Comic Sans MS;">~Journee~</span></p>

[Dark]

<p>well, lets just call it like it is...theyre in california and want the event in vegas..free vacation for all the guys we pay to support us.</p><p>not to mention, they dont wanna travel to the east coast....so lets just call it 'west coast fanfaire' and leave it at that.  </p><p>they clearly cant be bothered traveling across country....i understand, just cant believe the sham of phony polls like this.  oh wait...this is SOE...yea, silly me</p>

[Dark]

oh and just to add...i bet atlantic city would have the event just as cheap as vegas....but of course, that hasnt been mentioned

[Sil]

Have to say Vegas. its closer, cheaper, and more fun there

[Skreet]

<cite>Silko wrote:</cite><blockquote>Have to say Vegas. its closer, cheaper, and more fun there</blockquote>Yup, and I'll try to be there so people can yell at me for spamming the infantry forum boards and the SWG boards <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)And so I can yell at the devs of each respectively! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)

[mattador]

Are you kidding, SOE all got to stay in the nice rio hotel that costs bookoo bucks.  I dont think they are trying to save money by flying their employees less of a distance.  These polls are user driven.  Vegas is winning because people voted for it.  This conspiracy stuff is just silly.  Now last year when i spent 10 months with the re polls and the hackers that messed up the numbers you could say something.  I wonder if somewhere there is a list of how many people attended.  i would wager vegas had the best turn out.To help you guys understand what goes on at the FF here is my version of the schedule from last year.<u>Day one thursday</u>Sign in from 4-7pm  which means you can go get your badge early but there are no facilitys open to you, you show up check in and are on your own to party in the town and get your room set up.7pm they had a private party 21+ at the voodoo night club where soe paid for food and you paid for drinks, exclusive to FF attendees.<u>Day two Friday</u>From 10 to 6 they let you into the convention where they had a bunch of room with various discussions, a video game kind of flea market, lots of free shirts and toys, i got tickets to a 3 week early showing of superbad.  There was a giant projector screen where they showed some demos and had a tournament.At 8pm that night they had a private party 21+  Free bar anything you want for a few hours at the rio pool area with a live band that was very good at covers.  We met up with lots of guildies it was a blast.  it was a couple hours long.<u>Day three Sat</u>930 to 730 more discussions but i was at superbad movie release lol.  The last thing for the convention was a huge banquet with buffet style food tables set up for guilds and servers from all of the different games.  costume contest , lots of other contests, a wedding, then dancing but i think most ppl left to go out on the town.i hope this helps a little its hard to tell what exactly to expect.  There were lots of kids there but my friend brought his kids and its kind of a pain to find something for them to do when you cant take them to the private nightclub partys  he didnt get to hang out with us for that stuff.

[Shee]

<p>You guys know that Vegas is going to win. It's the only true place where a kid can be a kid.</p>

[drowlord6]

<p>Theres obviously been some kind of typing error as I dont see Bangkok on the list. I have been playing out of Thailand for 4 yrs and I vote for the City of Sin...granted I am perhaps the only SWG player in the country but why should that make a difference...lol. </p><p> C'mon guys...its the perfect chance to leave your own country and live like kings and queens for $30 a night. All the trimmings cost very little and you get the added benefit of the cultural experience.</p><p>VOTE BANGKOK 2008!!</p>

[shanmo]

Come on people, Orlando! The dates for it overlap the last few days of Star Wars weekends at MGM!!!! What could be better than arching around in our Star Wars cosutmes (you know you have one!) at MGM and hanging around Star Tours. If you march in costume, you get some free tickets for the Disney parks, too.

[g7r]

<p>Dont know why but I still find it annoying that there is nothing outside of the US.</p><p>Why cant there be one in Europe or somewhere else?</p><p>Dont u guys realise that there is a world outside </p>

[Erom]

<p>Vegas is a good location low air fares good price on a room too.</p>

[BroomyHilda]

<p>Voted for another trip to Vegas.</p><p>SOE, please don't do another wedding....</p><p>Broomy</p>

[Raki]

<p>Say what you want about conspiracy theory but the way the poll is set up obviously favors Vegas. Like we've said. Make 2 west (I'm considering Vegas west because west can drive to it) vs 2 east and Vegas would'nt have 600+ votes atm.</p><p>Current vote when I post this:</p><p></p><p>East coast combined: 677</p><p>Vegas: 606</p><p>East coast is still winning but we have to vote in 2 area's. So yes it is not fair for the east coasters and again its because SoE wants FF in Vegas. The poll is just to allow them to act like we have a choice and nothing else. I bet if either east coast site were to jump ahead the poll would somehow be hacked and reset.</p><p>Add a Cali location or a Washington location and Vegas votes would split in half. Look at all the people who live in Cali who voted for Vegas because they can drive.</p>

[Dark]

thank you raki...that was my point exactly

[OR]

<p><span style="font-size: medium;">Will it come to scotland ever? The Force Is Strong Here! <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/8f7fb9dd46fb8ef86f81154a4feaada9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></span></p>

[OR]

How do I make a poll to put scotland into the picture & is SWG going to be there ? I think there was one in london

[Procurator]

<cite>Raki wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Say what you want about conspiracy theory but the way the poll is set up obviously favors Vegas. Like we've said. Make 2 west (I'm considering Vegas west because west can drive to it) vs 2 east and Vegas would'nt have 600+ votes atm.</p><p>Current vote when I post this:</p><p>East coast combined: 677</p><p>Vegas: 606</p><p>East coast is still winning but we have to vote in 2 area's. So yes it is not fair for the east coasters and again its because SoE wants FF in Vegas. The poll is just to allow them to act like we have a choice and nothing else. I bet if either east coast site were to jump ahead the poll would somehow be hacked and reset.</p><p>Add a Cali location or a Washington location and Vegas votes would split in half. Look at all the people who live in Cali who voted for Vegas because they can drive.</p></blockquote>You're assuming everyone's voting based purely on which coast a place is on. I'm voting for the coast furthest away from me, because I happen to want to go to a particular city; I don't care about the coast.And I'm sure at least 71 people (the difference between the coasts' respective votes) are voting for the same reason.

[Dark]

<cite>Procurator wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Raki wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Say what you want about conspiracy theory but the way the poll is set up obviously favors Vegas. Like we've said. Make 2 west (I'm considering Vegas west because west can drive to it) vs 2 east and Vegas would'nt have 600+ votes atm.</p><p>Current vote when I post this:</p><p>East coast combined: 677</p><p>Vegas: 606</p><p>East coast is still winning but we have to vote in 2 area's. So yes it is not fair for the east coasters and again its because SoE wants FF in Vegas. The poll is just to allow them to act like we have a choice and nothing else. I bet if either east coast site were to jump ahead the poll would somehow be hacked and reset.</p><p>Add a Cali location or a Washington location and Vegas votes would split in half. Look at all the people who live in Cali who voted for Vegas because they can drive.</p></blockquote><p>You're assuming everyone's voting based purely on which coast a place is on. I'm voting for the coast furthest away from me, because I happen to want to go to a particular city; I don't care about the coast.And I'm sure at least 71 people (the difference between the coasts' respective votes) are voting for the same reason.</p><p>wow...that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever</p></blockquote>

[rangergodde]

<p>ok it is silly to call Vegas west coast, and if we are saying it is because those in the west can drive there.....um I have driven to Orlando before too from Seattle so does that make Orlando West coast?  We have BIG states out here not blink and miss them types like in the East, so going one or two states over is a big deal.</p><p>I actually voted because of the dates not the location, Vegas would be much cheaper and I would rather go there than the other two locations but the dates dont work out for my family so I voted Orlando.</p>

[Tenol]

<cite>mattador wrote:</cite><blockquote>Are you kidding, SOE all got to stay in the nice rio hotel that costs bookoo bucks.  I dont think they are trying to save money by flying their employees less of a distance.  These polls are user driven.  Vegas is winning because people voted for it.  This conspiracy stuff is just silly.  Now last year when i spent 10 months with the re polls and the hackers that messed up the numbers you could say something.  I wonder if somewhere there is a list of how many people attended.  i would wager vegas had the best turn out.</blockquote>I'd bet $10 to a snickers bar that if the poll was strictly between Orlando Florida and Las Vegas Nevada that Orlando would win. Everybody and their brother has been to a Vegas Fan Faire.

[Tenol]

<cite>rangergoddess wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>ok it is silly to call Vegas west coast, and if we are saying it is because those in the west can drive there.....um I have driven to Orlando before too from Seattle so does that make Orlando West coast?</p></blockquote>Orlando would be East Coast. And Vegas is West Coast when it's relative to everybody in the USA other than the west coast states.

[OR]

SCOTLAND!!!!! <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/0320a00cb4bb5629ab9fc2bc1fcc4e9e.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> (I Wish) Concider my non biest view! It's OrLando Calrissian! <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> Went there when I was little I liked it there nice place! <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/images/smilies/8f7fb9dd46fb8ef86f81154a4feaada9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Calthine]

<cite>Tenolin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>rangergoddess wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>ok it is silly to call Vegas west coast, and if we are saying it is because those in the west can drive there.....um I have driven to Orlando before too from Seattle so does that make Orlando West coast?</p></blockquote>Orlando would be East Coast. And Vegas is West Coast when it's relative to everybody in the USA other than the west coast states.</blockquote>Vegas isn't West Coast.  It's not even in the same time zone.  And no, I'm not "West Cost"  I'm more western than that.