2007 Fan Faire take 2

[Ashlanne]

<p>Hello Everyone,</p><p>The Poll has been running for almost 3 whole weeks.  Since Orlando, Denver and Las Vegas are dominating the vote we decided to run a new poll with just those 3 cities for the next 2 weeks.  The poll will shut down on August 25th.</p><p>Thank you for your assistance in the other poll we hope that you will be of further assistance and vote in this poll so we can pick a final destination for the 2007 Fan Faire!</p>

[Ashlanne]

<p>We do ask that you leave the bickering out of this thread it's everyone's right to choose the city of their choice.</p>

[Ta]

Thanks Ashlanne! We'll be good <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Talli]

Sooo hard to choose!!! i like all three of those cities.  Lived in two of them.  But one of the dates is the b-day of a good friend who will possiably be going to FF also.  So there goes my vote too.

[Lool]

<cite>Tallika wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sooo hard to choose!!! i like all three of those cities.  Lived in two of them.  But one of the dates is the b-day of a good friend who will possiably be going to FF also.  So there goes my vote too. </blockquote>Which friend is that Talli?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Mr]

<p>Wow - timing is really bad but maybe I'll go to Vegas with you guys.</p><p>Going *back* to work immediately after a fan faire, though, sounds nearly impossible.</p><p><a href="http://mrrx.wordpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">MrrX's Character Journal</a></p>

[Talli]

<cite>Loolee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Tallika wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sooo hard to choose!!! i like all three of those cities.  Lived in two of them.  But one of the dates is the b-day of a good friend who will possiably be going to FF also.  So there goes my vote too. </blockquote>Which friend is that Talli?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>This four-legged dude with a long tongue and big ears who will probably hump my leg when we all go over to Quarks and get drunk...<img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Greenion]

<p>i would like everyone to note that the pirates of the caribbean ride has newly been revamped....</p><p>and tha i voted for orlando...</p>

[Sassums]

<p>I had to vote for Orlando, although Vegas is winning <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  But if Vegas wins, I can travel out there.</p><p>**Cheers**</p>

[Lool]

<cite>Tallika wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Loolee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Tallika wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sooo hard to choose!!! i like all three of those cities.  Lived in two of them.  But one of the dates is the b-day of a good friend who will possiably be going to FF also.  So there goes my vote too. </blockquote>Which friend is that Talli?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>This four-legged dude with a long tongue and big ears who will probably hump my leg when we all go over to Quarks and get drunk...<img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </blockquote>OOooooh! <i> That</i> friend!  I like him!

[Zob]

Denver FTW!!!

[Sna]

All I care is that orlando loses, looking good!

[Sassums]

LOL, we are so friendly here.... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[angelk]

I would like to see Orlando win. If I could make it out to Vegas I would say no problem, but having a new baby would make going to Vegas a bit far. But from the looks of it I won't be going. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Beld]

Viva Las Vegas! =)

[Leko]

Orlando FTW

[Lalaminu]

<p>Vegas would be sweet =) I havent been there in many years. Would be nice to go back and see what all has popped up there and see the new places. </p><p>Star Trek is a must!!! </p>

[Senda]

Orlando ftw!! and yes the theme parks here rock!

[Trepan_the_R]

There are no links on any of the websites to this poll, people are still voting in the other forum and Denver is still on top as it should be! What is the point of this poll? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[SlashDaGutt]

Well, looking at results so far I won't be going to Fan Faire again next year.

[Teyen]

<cite>Trepan_the_Rat wrote:</cite><blockquote>There are no links on any of the websites to this poll, people are still voting in the other forum and Denver is still on top as it should be! What is the point of this poll? <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote> Amazing how Denver got 30 votes in like five hours on that other poll.  They should limit the votes one per IP.

[Saign]

Teyener, that is because we Denver folks would really like to see one out here.  Every year it seems it mostly goes to Vegas and I'm voting for my hometown for a little change of scenery.  I know about 15 peeps out here who play EQ and contacted all of them to go vote, and for them to get anyone else to vote for Denver as well.  It's that simple.

[FreedimSh]

[Removed for Content] US centric company - London please, thats in the UK !

[EqTinker]

<p>I hope Denver wins, if not then Las Vegas is my second choice.  </p><p> If you havent heard, Orlando has its highest murder rate in its history this year.  </p><p><a href="http://feeds.fortlauderdalenews.net/?rid=590ecb79504d5e6c&cat=257b7bc7aa875450&f=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.fortlauderdalenews.net...a875450&f=1</a></p>

[Teyen]

<p>There goes that Denver "push" from 50 to 90+ in a few hours. Let's go for a third recount & One vote per IP please.</p>

[Sham]

<p>Orlando or bust for me!</p><p>would love to do vegas and go to the star trek experiance but i dont think i can afford it</p>

[seidian_daiki]

Vote Vegas ! Why you ask. Because The most people can afford to fly to vegas , Ever look up flights to denver? Best room rates Vegas ... Denver BAH.... I my self think Most people can afford Vegas Flight rates , room rates ... Vegas was built for Tourist.... thus many more from guilds all over the states have a better chance to make it there than any where else.  I feel that everyone reallly wants the biggest turn out to meet and party with as many peeps as possible , Vegas seems the better choice for that.

[Jacko]

<p>I had to vote for Denver for a couple  reasons..</p><p>1) Have been to two FF in Vegas, yes had a blast both time but would like to go somewhere new. Also went to the one in New Orleans and Atlanta. If FF wasnt in New Orleans or Atlanta  I would have never gone to either places. Was an experiance to go to both places and see how great they both are. Since those two places were great figured experiance Denver would be great also</p><p>2) Orlando trip will cost me an arm and a leg since I'm on the west coast and Denver isn't to far.</p>

[flawhatever]

<cite>EqTinkerer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I hope Denver wins, if not then Las Vegas is my second choice.  </p><p> If you havent heard, Orlando has its highest murder rate in its history this year.  </p><p><a href="http://feeds.fortlauderdalenews.net/?rid=590ecb79504d5e6c&cat=257b7bc7aa875450&f=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.fortlauderdalenews.net...a875450&f=1</a></p></blockquote><p> That is hilarious EqTinkerer! Want to see how to really play the "misinformation game"? Lets take a look at Denver's murder situation, shall we?</p><p><a href="http://www.walterindenver.com/archives/001030.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.walterindenver.com/archives/001030.html</a></p><p>Wow! Would you look at that? 37 in Orlando doesn't look so bad when you look at the ENTIRE picture and not just select the headlines that fit your arguement.</p><p>Here's a look at the Denver and Las Vegas crime situation.</p><p><a href="http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=denver&s1=CO&c2=Las+Vegas&s2=NV" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/cri...Vegas&s2=NV</a></p><p>Everywhere has crime. Using crime stats to try and scare people away from voting for a certain city is quite an underhanded trick in my opinion. "Someone" (won't name names but you can look it up in the thread that is still up) was saying the same stuff about Atlanta during the vote last year. Crying gloom and doom about SOE being on the hook when someone gets offed at the FF2006. The fanfaire went off perfectly and I didn't hear of any crimes committed against the attendees.</p><p>If you want Denver to win then vote for them and try to refrain from taking potshots at the other cities. They are all great locations for the FF or we wouldn't be deciding between them.</p><p>Largo Fla</p>

[EqTinker]

<p>That is all 2004 data, I was showing this years data for Orlando, but if you want to show that then look at Orlando compared to Denver with your statistics</p><p><a href="http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=Denver&s1=CO&c2=Orlando&s2=FL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/cri...lando&s2=FL</a></p><p>Orlando looks alot higher than Denver for 2004 in [Removed for Content], robbery, assault, burglary, and theft.</p><p> <a href="http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=Las+Vegas&s1=NV&c2=Orlando&s2=FL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/cri...lando&s2=FL</a></p><p>Orlando looks alot higher than Las Vegas for 2004 in [Removed for Content], robbery, assault, burglary, and theft as well.</p>

[ocam]

Well, from this former Denverite, I want you all to know if Denver does win the weather will probably be less than desirable. Denver is a very nice city, but I think you will all be a bit dissapointed in March. Hope to see you all whereever the final location may be...

[Olavf_of_Guk]

<cite>Teyener wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There goes that Denver "push" from 50 to 90+ in a few hours. Let's go for a third recount & One vote per IP please.</p></blockquote> Cant do it like that either, Dial up users get a new IP every time they dial in, People can just go to their local school or Library and use their computers to vote on, OR in my case I share a wireless connection with another player who is my neighbor, (we share the cost of one connection). My wife has an account and so does his wife, so that would be 3 players with legitimate accounts that couldn't vote. There is no way to do this completely fair...SO they are doing it the best way they know how...

[angelk]

You know I really don't care where wins this poll cause either way I will be sitting in the nice florida sun enjoying myself. It would be nice however to have FF in florida for a change. Everything happens on the west coast and us east coast people always have to travel if we want to go. So for a change it would be nice for us east coasters not to travel as far.

[Teyen]

<cite>angelkis wrote:</cite><blockquote>You know I really don't care where wins this poll cause either way I will be sitting in the nice florida sun enjoying myself. It would be nice however to have FF in florida for a change. Everything happens on the west coast and us east coast people always have to travel if we want to go. So for a change it would be nice for us east coasters not to travel as far. </blockquote> I'll join ya at the theme parks!

[flawhatever]

<cite>EqTinkerer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That is all 2004 data, I was showing this years data for Orlando, but if you want to show that then look at Orlando compared to Denver with your statistics</p><p><a href="http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=Denver&s1=CO&c2=Orlando&s2=FL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/cri...lando&s2=FL</a></p><p>Orlando looks alot higher than Denver for 2004 in [Removed for Content], robbery, assault, burglary, and theft.</p><p> <a href="http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=Las+Vegas&s1=NV&c2=Orlando&s2=FL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://lasvegas.areaconnect.com/cri...lando&s2=FL</a></p><p>Orlando looks alot higher than Las Vegas for 2004 in [Removed for Content], robbery, assault, burglary, and theft as well.</p></blockquote><p>Now you want to include the other stats because murder doesn't quite make your point anymore huh? Orlando is at 37 murders (a high rate for that area) which you were proudly shouting about while the 2 cities you are pushing have higher murder counts which didn't get included in your post for some reason. Just pointing out how convenient it is for some folks to bash a perfectly fine city for something all cities have problems with. Don't care which city wins, I will be there. All 3 are great and will do a wonderful job at hosting the event.</p><p>Largo Fla</p><p>Wardogs</p><p>Oasis </p>

[flawhatever]

<cite>Teyener wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There goes that Denver "push" from 50 to 90+ in a few hours. Let's go for a third recount & One vote per IP please.</p></blockquote><p> Hahaha, you really think there is a plot to get the FF in Denver? 40 people couldn't possibly have voted in a "few hours". This world-wide web thingie would have imploded from all the traffic for sure. If someone has more than one account, I say let them vote. And so does SOE. Keep the conspiracy theories coming though. You and Olaf need to write some crime thrillers. They'd make millions. </p><p>Largo Fla</p><p>Wardogs</p><p>Oasis</p>

[Olavf_of_Guk]

Actually Flaw I voted with all 5 of my accounts in about 5 minutes so i think 40 votes in an hour is quite doable.Now i would kindly ask you to not include me in your pathtic childish insults. Ashlanne please ask this person to refrain from personal attacks.

[flawhatever]

<cite>Olavf_of_Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>Actually Flaw I voted with all 5 of my accounts in about 5 minutes so i think 40 votes in an hour is quite doable.Now i would kindly ask you to not include me in your pathtic childish insults. Ashlanne please ask this person to refrain from personal attacks. </blockquote><p> Sorry Olaf, it was sarcasm and not intended to insult. My apologies of course. I KNOW that the votes are more than possible. I was making light of Teyener's comment on the "push" in Denver votes. Now I didn't say it was a good joke but it was only meant in jest. Again, no insult intended to either of you. I through myself on the mercy of the court.</p><p>Largo Fla</p><p>Wardogs</p><p>Oasis</p>

[MistAir]

<p>Denver in march?</p><p>Orlando during spring break?</p><p>Vegas in summer when I'm chilling in orlando with family anyway...</p><p>I have to go with orlando!</p>

[MistAir]

ok, so maybe i dont care where it is but i am not there unless it's in orlando which is where the rest of the anit-eq2 clan wants to go

[Pa]

<p>great, another "whats the rest of the world" event....</p><p>like the movie contest...</p><p>or like restuss... never happened on europe servers.</p><p>Anybody of SOE got told theres life on the other side? (of the ocean?)</p><p> greetings from the "old" world</p><p>may some remember where the movies were made/filmed... sigh</p>

[JR]

I would like to see it held in the Northeast for a change then I would be able to go atleast one time..

[TemptingFait]

<cite>Teyener wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>angelkis wrote:</cite><blockquote>You know I really don't care where wins this poll cause either way I will be sitting in the nice florida sun enjoying myself. It would be nice however to have FF in florida for a change. Everything happens on the west coast and us east coast people always have to travel if we want to go. So for a change it would be nice for us east coasters not to travel as far. </blockquote> I'll join ya at the theme parks!</blockquote><p> Ummmm excuse me??? Atlanta isn't that far from Florida, many kids drive to Fl from Atlanta for spring break, so your "everything happens on the west coast" is incorrect, I flew to Atlanta from Pheonix last year, I'd prefer to be closer to home this year.  </p><p>Been to 7 of these, and will have to pass if it goes to Orlando or Denver (can't chance my flying dollars on getting snowed out, can't chance getting snowed in) and there's NO way I'm going to go to Florida where it's so humid I wouldn't be able to breathe.</p><p>Tempting Fait</p><p>Drinal </p>

[Olavf_of_Guk]

Actually my wife and I honeymooned in Orlando last March and the weather was wonderful. Low humidity, warm days and the nights were cool, but shorts were OK. I can understand being worried about being snowed in or out, especially in Denver. I live somewhere where it could stil snow in March as well so Denver for me would be a double chance I probably will not take. I don't want to lose my money on plane fare for a trip that gets snowed out, and I surely don't want to have to call my boss and tell him I am snowed in in Denver... I will go to Orlando if they happen to win, but Las Vegas is my choice. There is something to do for everyone plus the weather is great, and it save us at least $500 in plane fare savings and less expensive hotels...

[Sqig]

<p>I had to miss the last Fan Faire because it was on the east coast, not that that is bad, it's not, I really would have liked to see Atlanta, never been there, but I live in California, and between the airfare, hotel, FF Ticket, and car rental, would have cost me like $1000...</p><p> I can afford to drive to Las Vegas though so I am hoping it is there, we had lots of fun the last couple times they had it there <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Wait... how much is gas again? haha :p</p><p> Sqigmond da Troll</p>

[Ashlanne]

I am really close to start banning users from this forum.  Please vote for your favorite city do not bicker about it, there aren't any conspiracy theories...

[Bean]

Go Denver!! ^_^

[Perzephone]

<span style="color: #9933cc"><span style="font-size: large; font-family: comic sans ms,sand">GO VEGAS! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> WOOT!!!! It's in the lead YAHOOO! </span></span>

[Ber]

<p>Orlando FTW! <img src="/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>/agree with angel b/c she has younger sibs</p>

[Bayamos]

Vegas Baby!

[De]

<p>Just my 2cp worth on my first post to the forums....</p><p> Being a native of Colorado - the March dates will not be the warmest, but also not the coldest.  We usually get our heavy snowfalls that time of year....  More of a cultural exploration during the day (museums, zoos, tours) all within walking distance or "free" transportation from downtown.  At night, well.. nightlife...bars/dance clubs, sport venues, theater, movies, bowling, etc...all within walking distance of dowtown...chance of being snowed in is slim to nill...the snows are heavy in March but the streets are always dry the next day...the only disadvantage I see is the trip from the airport to downtown...some what of a distance...</p><p> I'm extremely excited for Vegas.  Always a fun town!  Never been to Orlando, but with spring break..yeah...could be loads of fun to!  I agree we should look into the northeast, a trip to Salem would be fun! </p><p>voted for Denver, rooting for Vegas and curiously interested for Orlando...all in all.. hope to meet you soon!</p><p>Dev</p>

[Detri]

I vote Orlando. There is so much stuff to do in Orlando it's not funny. Ignore the guy giving crime statistics. Universal Studios his killer parks. Disney has nice parks and nightlife. Bars, clubs, museums, ocean, camping. If it's in Orlando I'll definately go. If it's not then I can't go. Everyone Vote Orlando. Also the weather should be nice, it's Florida. I had to wear a thick jacket for a total of a Week I think.

[Pa]

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote>I am really close to start banning users from this forum.  Please vote for your favorite city do not bicker about it, there aren't any conspiracy theories...</blockquote><p> I`d like to vote... as soon as SOE remembers there are fans outside US, so its possible to reach the city for less than 2000€.<img src="/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>So, how about a fan faire in europe?<img src="/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> serious question!!!</p>

[Greenion]

<p>Orlando is one fun town, there is literally every tourist gimmick available...</p><p>my kids have all gone there and survived several times....for those worried about safety...</p><p>Mickey Mouse does regular patrols with the keystone cops...its totally safe...</p><p>and how could you not want to do disney with your favorite soe staffer?</p><p>of course Busch Gardens in Tampa is the place for the free beer though.</p>

[Olavf_of_Guk]

There is free beer at Sea World too (AB owns it so they have a beer garden there) it appears SOE doesn't own the rights to Fan Faire Europe so they have nothing to do with holding one there Heavy snow in Denver in March...Sure the streets of Denver may be cleared, but Snow storms don't say Lets snow on Denver...they are usually regional, so if Denver gets a big snow, theres a good chance that several cities east of there would too...SO peole might not be able to get TO Denver..I do't know about you, but I don't want to spend nearly $800 for 2 plane tickets and not be able to get there...

[roadwarri]

Hello Everyone i just wanted to say i had fun at this years fanfaire 2006. That was my very first fanfaire and like i said before i had a blast. I can wait for next years fanfaire i hope its in Vegas though i never been to Vegas so this will be a new experience for so let go Vegas.

[Wyora_Troublemak]

Had to vote for Vegas, but I'm happy to see Denver in second place, its a fun city with lots to do.  I'd be happy at either location, but won't attend if it ends up in Orlando.

[Tharkis]

<p>Having been to many many fan faires, Vegas is the best location !  Wicked cheap from anywhere in the US, and even 'relativly' cheap outside the US due to package deals and such, TONS to do, and the best bars, yay quarks !</p><p>I live in the north east, and I really dont want to go to denver in the snowy season... when i would want to escape snow in new england, and orlando is just wicked expensive to do ANYTHING particualrly around spring break.  </p><p> Hope vegas wins ! =)</p>

[EvilTw]

Yay vegas !

[Nanyea]

love vegas <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> love quarks!

[Len]

Vegas Baby, Vegas!!!

[Senda]

Orlando is not that expensive lol, seems like some have a lot of preconceptions about orlando. Also the humidity is nothing really, there's a heatwave everywhere almost anyways. I'm in Tampa and the heat/humidity is'nt bad at all here. Orlando would be the only location i would attend.

[Tharkis]

Orlando is a lot more expensive when you figure a week in orlando is going to cost at least 500$ more than a week in vegas just for the hotell alone. For people vacationing on a budget, there's no better location than vegas!

[Vita_Asham]

<p>Need to remember the $$ posted here are for the hotel rooms negotiatd by SOE for the event.  There are PLENTY of hotels in Orlando and Vegas that will be MUCH cheaper than what is posted here.  The hotel room prices here are not accurate to what we could find as individual <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  I'll go to the one in Orlando, any other one would not be feasible <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</p>

[Olavf_of_Guk]

I attended the last Fan Faire in Orlando. If they are considering holding it at the same hotel I can tell you that the other hotels in that general vacinity are very high dollar. There are some less expensive ones not too far away but you would need to rent a car and drive to the event location. After attending 6 Fan Faires, I can tell you that staying in the hotel where Fan Faire is being held is the only way to go.

[Olavf_of_Guk]

<p><span style="color: #ff0000">Please stop it with the conspiracy theories</span></p>

[Minymezz]

<p> So like why not enjoy the nice spring weather in Orlando, and all those Spring Break chicks hanging out there too.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Removed post content refering to the conspiracy theory</span></p>

[Ker]

<p><span style="color: #ff0000">Removed post content refering to the conspiracy theory</span></p>

[Olavf_of_Guk]

<p><span style="color: #ff0000">Please stop it with the conspiracy theories</span></p>

[Daln]

<p>Northeast, Mid Atlantic would be good too. DC area one years ago in Baltimore/BWI was a fun event.</p><p> D</p>

[eyugal]

Ok, not only am I voting for the best city in the world (ahem) Denver, The Mile High City, Queen City of the Plains and Gateway to the Rockies!!!   but I will volunteer to help Sony out in running the thing, I have experiance running gaming conventions and work for an event staffing company.  I will also help my fellow players with where to go, what to do questions... but no, you can't flop in my apartment...                                                                                  Erich (Eyugally sumbaddgun, Betrox, ex Thollux paells) SOE guys- you can find my contact info from somewhere I suspect, let me know what I can do to help.

[Kulz]

How about 2, 1 for east coast and one for west coast? I know would have to drive and I cant get out to denver or vegas but I can *bleep* sure get to orlando and most of the east coast. Gas has become a consideration with the prices these days and since I just got laid off as well travel is quite limited. Just a thought since Im sure others who would like to attend are in similar situations.

[Infer]

definately orlando is the way to go.....the weather is great, the women are everywhere.....its florida baby!!!!!......

[Raki]

<p>Orlando is > Vegas + Atlanta and every other place. We got the beaches and we got the beetches. Bring it back to the south.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Please refrain from posting about conspiracy theories on these forums</span></p>

[helix]

Vegas Baby we can do things all night.

[Spy]

<p>Europe is a real place. You can go there on an aeroplane. You will need a passport and people will be a little taken aback if you offer them US$ as payment, but there is no good reason why Fan Faire couldn't happen there. Even in Germany. </p><p> Maybe one year SOE ...? please? I'm happy to fly out to Orlando or Vegas or whatever. I've been to both before and they're kinda dull, but really, couldn't you show a little love to us over here? Please?</p>

[Raki]

<p>I was'nt posting a conspiracy theory. I was stating that Florida had a big shot at winning then the poll was changed merging all 3 vegas together and putting Orlando in last instead of first. Theres like 5 posts under this one with little red letters asking peeps not to post about conspiracy theories. We are'nt plotting to kill someone and cover it up using the keebler elves. Just stating that O-town was in first, and now in last.</p><p> And yes most of the "Conspiracy Theories" seem to be posting for Orlando. If we are motivated enough to post a conspiracy just imagine how well we will do at the Fan Faire!</p>

[Liln]

<p>Orlando FTW!</p><p>March is a GREAT time of year to go to Florida...  70s to low 80s during the day, beautiful sunny skies and (better yet) hurricane season does not start until June 1.  LOTS of excellent activities to do in the area - and who could pass up a chance to see Mickey?  </p><p><img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Hawkbla]

Oso voted for Florida! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[NorrinRa]

been away on vacation and got back late last night, just voted for Orlando but i know its to late, plus vegas has won anyways... shame really, may be a great place to have it, but what about ever having something here on the East Coast?? I live in Tampa,  FL and can't fly out to the West Coast for these events, but would like to... oh well, just one more SOE event i miss...

[ocam]

You cut the suspense with a knife, ewvery time it looks like Vegas id going to run away with it, Denver manages to come up with enough votes to get back into the race. Even coming from Denver, I didn't know that there would be enough support to make it a close race. Looks like people close by are relaly pushing...I have seen at least 2 times where Denver has gained nearly 60 votes in just a few short hours... I voted for Vegas but I like to watch a good horse race.... Cmon Vegas, we need more votes!

[Tybla]

I voted for orlando.  way much more to do.  Disney, Universal...endless other attractions.  and you cant blow your money on casinos that will rob you blind.  at least you get fun out of themeparks!  plus orlando's areas are huge.

[ocam]

There's more to do in Orlando than in Vegas? You have either never been to Las Vegas OR you are too young to enjoy yourself there...Let's see Theme parks that are $60 per day per person and Hotels that are $50 a night more expensive? No thanks.. I don't know how many of you have attended Fan Faires, but the VAST majority of attendees are over 21 so they can drink and gamble if they like, so those of you who aren't 21 yet are at some disadvantage and I do feel for you. There IS a lot of things to do in Las Vegas for the under 21 crowd. Since I have seen the theme parks during sprint break, I can tel you It's not much fun waiting in a line for 45 minutes to ride a mediocre roller coaster for 2 minutes... Besides there are plenty of roller coasters in in Las Vegas...

[lu]

I voted for Denver, I know most of my friends would like to see it in Denver also. Fanfaire was east coast "Atlanta" this year, it was in las vegas previously dont think it has ever been to denver yet.

[IrishWond]

<p>Go Denver! I'm too cheap to fly, and I don't wanna drive across an entire mountain range then through a desert...</p><p>Go Denver!</p>

[Jeg]

Go Denver Go!

[Igie]

Wow, that many people wanna risk losing their money on SNOW!!!!! I can't believe it. Vegas FTW! Honestly, if you all wanna see SNOW that bad, watch the TWC. I don't wanna risk my cash and vacation time on the whims of Mother Nature. What's gonna happen in Vegas, not a blizzard that's for sure.

[Alimo]

I am going orlando all the way...

[Eith]

<p>OMG.  How many times does it have to be stated...</p><p>IT DOES NOT SNOW THAT MUCH IN DENVER.</p><p>Go west into the mountains?  Yeah, your snow concerns are valid.</p><p><b>Climate of Denver</b></p><p>The climate of Denver, although frequently unpredictable and rather misunderstood by most, is really rather pleasant. Denver, lying on the east side of the mountains and located on the plains of the state, experiences the benefit of a weather barrier, a winter snow shield that we call the Rocky Mountains. <b>Occasionally</b> a major snow storm will impact the area and leave a significant amount of snow upon metro residents, yet the winters and summers remain mostly dry, <b>averaging 8-15 inches of precipitation a year</b>. Ranging from an average of 69 degrees in the summer to a standard 45-degree day in the winter, the city and suburbs stay mild and arid year-round. Also, Colorado State displays over 300 days of sunshine per year, more annual golden sunbeams than even San Diego California!</p><p>from: <a href="http://www.seniorsresourceguide.com/Denver/about_region.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.seniorsresourceguide.com...out_region.html</a></p>

[Goome]

Orlando FTW...weather down here in March is incredible...beach is less than an hour away and there is plenty to do (even gamble on the boats) so Vegas doesn't have anything on O-Town!

[Goome]

<cite>TemptingFait wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Teyener wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>angelkis wrote:</cite><blockquote>You know I really don't care where wins this poll cause either way I will be sitting in the nice florida sun enjoying myself. It would be nice however to have FF in florida for a change. Everything happens on the west coast and us east coast people always have to travel if we want to go. So for a change it would be nice for us east coasters not to travel as far. </blockquote> I'll join ya at the theme parks!</blockquote><p> Ummmm excuse me??? Atlanta isn't that far from Florida, many kids drive to Fl from Atlanta for spring break, so your "everything happens on the west coast" is incorrect, I flew to Atlanta from Pheonix last year, I'd prefer to be closer to home this year.  </p><p>Been to 7 of these, and will have to pass if it goes to Orlando or Denver (can't chance my flying dollars on getting snowed out, can't chance getting snowed in) and there's NO way I'm going to go to Florida where it's so humid I wouldn't be able to breathe.</p><p>Tempting Fait</p><p>Drinal </p></blockquote>Quite funny, it's obvious to those that live here, you don't know what you're talking about.  March is one of the most beautiful times of the year here.  No humidity, cool temperatures, and the scenery on the beach is unsurpassed.

[ocam]

<cite>Eithne wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>OMG.  How many times does it have to be stated...</p><p>IT DOES NOT SNOW THAT MUCH IN DENVER.</p><p>Go west into the mountains?  Yeah, your snow concerns are valid.</p><p><b>Climate of Denver</b></p><p>The climate of Denver, although frequently unpredictable and rather misunderstood by most, is really rather pleasant. Denver, lying on the east side of the mountains and located on the plains of the state, experiences the benefit of a weather barrier, a winter snow shield that we call the Rocky Mountains. <b>Occasionally</b> a major snow storm will impact the area and leave a significant amount of snow upon metro residents, yet the winters and summers remain mostly dry, <b>averaging 8-15 inches of precipitation a year</b>. Ranging from an average of 69 degrees in the summer to a standard 45-degree day in the winter, the city and suburbs stay mild and arid year-round. Also, Colorado State displays over 300 days of sunshine per year, more annual golden sunbeams than even San Diego California!</p><p>from: <a href="http://www.seniorsresourceguide.com/Denver/about_region.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.seniorsresourceguide.com...out_region.html</a></p></blockquote>Except you are missing a pretty important part of the equation...Denver is only the destination city...What about the rest of the places people will be coming from, OR going back to...Snow is still a very real possibility in early March in a large portion of the country... And being from Denver I can tell you, history shows that if there is going to be a large snow event in Denver, it's usually in early March and if not snow, rain, COLD and nasty rain...Who wants to have Fan Faire in the rain?? ...Even though I am from Denver I personally wouldn't advise anyone to vote for the event there in March...June would be fantastic, not March...I voted for Vegas...

[Eith]

<p>*boggle*  You apparently live in a VERY different part of Denver than I do if you are used to lots of cold, nasty rain in the winter.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  In fact, there was so little precipitation of any kind this past winter, people were WATERING their lawns, trees and shrubs in January, February and March. Not to mention, it so rarely rains for anything longer than a couple of hours, it's office conversation the next day if it does.  I WELCOME the rain here because there is so little of it.  You wanna experience rain?  I invite you to Pittsburgh, PA.  Hello 300 days of sunshine Colorado!</p><p>Not to mention that if people are traveling FROM areas prone to snow, cold, etc, they're going to be experiencing the weather no matter which destination is chosen.</p>

[ocam]

<cite>Eithne wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>*boggle*  You apparently live in a VERY different part of Denver than I do if you are used to lots of cold, nasty rain in the winter.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  In fact, there was so little precipitation of any kind this past winter, people were WATERING their lawns, trees and shrubs in January, February and March. Not to mention, it so rarely rains for anything longer than a couple of hours, it's office conversation the next day if it does.  I WELCOME the rain here because there is so little of it.  You wanna experience rain?  I invite you to Pittsburgh, PA.  Hello 300 days of sunshine Colorado!</p><p>Not to mention that if people are traveling FROM areas prone to snow, cold, etc, they're going to be experiencing the weather no matter which destination is chosen.</p></blockquote>You need to read what was written...I said I LIVED in Denver, for 23 years, was born there and went to school there...BUT I moved away 13 years ago...BUT before I graduated from CU Denver I did learn a thing or 2 about the weather there...Like March is historically the wettest month of the winter, with an average snow fall amount of nearly 9 inches, AND 24 days of March the temperature will go below freezing....So the chances of having snow are about 1 in 3 and it will be below freezing probably every night....So instead of towels at the pool in Vegas, you can all bundle up in your winter coats and go outside to do next to nothing.. Does this sound like a good time to you? Or don't you care since you don't have to fly or drive very far....Most of us will be using vacation days and we would like the weather to be nice, not cold or wet... And as far as you last point there....try again...the Vegas FF dates are in JUNE, so unless you are coming from say....above the artic circle I doubt anyone will need to worry about snow...

[Igie]

<cite>Eithne wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>*boggle*  You apparently live in a VERY different part of Denver than I do if you are used to lots of cold, nasty rain in the winter.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  In fact, there was so little precipitation of any kind this past winter, people were WATERING their lawns, trees and shrubs in January, February and March. Not to mention, it so rarely rains for anything longer than a couple of hours, it's office conversation the next day if it does.  I WELCOME the rain here because there is so little of it.  You wanna experience rain?  I invite you to Pittsburgh, PA.  Hello 300 days of sunshine Colorado!</p><p>Not to mention that if people are traveling FROM areas prone to snow, cold, etc, they're going to be experiencing the weather no matter which destination is chosen.</p></blockquote> March is prone to snow for two of the destinations because of the month. The Las Vegas date, no one is prone to being snowed into or out of the airport. Rain delays yes are possible. As for Denver weather in March (Source TWC at www.weahter.com) <a href="http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/vacationplanner/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USCO0105?from=search" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.weather.com/outlook/trav...105?from=search</a> Average high 54 degrees Average low 25 degrees (that's BELOW freezing) Average Precip 1.28in (which is the highest for the winter months)

[ocam]

<cite>Igie wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eithne wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>*boggle*  You apparently live in a VERY different part of Denver than I do if you are used to lots of cold, nasty rain in the winter.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  In fact, there was so little precipitation of any kind this past winter, people were WATERING their lawns, trees and shrubs in January, February and March. Not to mention, it so rarely rains for anything longer than a couple of hours, it's office conversation the next day if it does.  I WELCOME the rain here because there is so little of it.  You wanna experience rain?  I invite you to Pittsburgh, PA.  Hello 300 days of sunshine Colorado!</p><p>Not to mention that if people are traveling FROM areas prone to snow, cold, etc, they're going to be experiencing the weather no matter which destination is chosen.</p></blockquote> March is prone to snow for two of the destinations because of the month. The Las Vegas date, no one is prone to being snowed into or out of the airport. Rain delays yes are possible. As for Denver weather in March (Source TWC at www.weahter.com) <a href="http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/vacationplanner/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USCO0105?from=search" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.weather.com/outlook/trav...105?from=search</a> Average high 54 degrees Average low 25 degrees (that's BELOW freezing) Average Precip 1.28in (which is the highest for the winter months) </blockquote> Yes and keep in mind that precip is measured in liquid. 1 inch of rain equals 8-10 inches of snow... It's going to be cold and miserable in Denver in March...

[Raki]

West coast is winning go figure! CONSPIRACY!! (ok that was a conspiracy theory. Go ahead and delete it.)

[Eith]

<p>I never said Denver was a tropical paradise.  What I was attempting to do was counter this idea that Denver is a deep freeze.  It is not.  I grew up in Pittsburgh, PA, which had much, much colder, snowier, lingering winters, on average, than those I've experienced in Denver.</p><p>Yes, it snows in Denver.  Yes, it gets cold here.  But you have to admit, that the MAJORITY of the time, any snow that falls is gone the next day.  We don't have a solid month of sub 20 degree temperatures in Denver - that's in the daytime, not even considering where temp goes after dark.  The idea that Fan Faire in Denver is going to be some horrid, miserable, North Pole experience by default is off base, if you'll be honest about it.</p><p>I have plenty of money to fly to Vegas and have a blast there.  I believe Denver and Colorado have a TON to offer to any visitor, any time of the year.  Plus, having it in Denver enables me to put up friends and guildmates who otherwise would not be able to afford to go to Fan Faire no matter where it's held.  If that makes me selfish, so be it.</p><p>Vegas has had Fan Faire before.  If you're going to throw the selfish card around, who is REALLY being selfish by refusing to consider alternate venues?</p><p>Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and their choice of where they would like it to be.  That's why we get to vote.  But don't trash a city's chances by painting an exaggerated impression.  300 days of sun in CO.  That leaves 65 cloudy days.  Odds are not every day in March is going to be cloudy. Or cold. Or rainy. Or covered in snow.</p><p>I wore a coat one week this past winter, and that was in December.</p>

[Ashlanne]

<p>For those that are currently unable to post a reply or vote in the poll I apologize.  We are trying to find a solution to this problem.  We may look at extending the poll another week if a solution can not be found before August 25th.</p><p>Thank you all for your patience, I will keep you updated.</p>

[Ashlanne]

<p>Those who were unable to vote should be able to now.  If you are still having an issue please send me a PM.</p><p>Thanks guys</p>

[ocam]

<cite>Eithne wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I never said Denver was a tropical paradise.</p></blockquote>Exactly my point...the other 2 locations kinda are much nicer now aren't they.....Thank you for making my point...Like I said, If it were June I would be all over Denver, Since I would get to see family and friends while I was there...but not in March, no way...

[yodam]

Denver!Center of the US, equal travel from all coasts.  Plus, Colorado is the best state in the union!  (but dont move here!  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )

[Eith]

<cite>ocam wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eithne wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I never said Denver was a tropical paradise.</p></blockquote>Exactly my point...the other 2 locations kinda are much nicer now aren't they.....Thank you for making my point...Like I said, If it were June I would be all over Denver, Since I would get to see family and friends while I was there...but not in March, no way... </blockquote>I didn't make your point for you... and do not agree that either destination is nicer.  Personally, I dislike FL intensely.  I went there every year for vacation growing up.  High humidity and large ugly bugs are not my thing.  Also, I don't have a lot of desire to go to the desert.. esp in June.  I'm not big into gambling or showgirls.  I'd rather be here in Denver with sunny skies and average daytime temps of 54 than in FL or NV.  Not everyone is into the tropics.

[Bunda]

<i><span style="font-size: small; font-family: times new roman,times"><span style="color: #3300ff">Apparently this has all been gone over...Denver is NOT the center of the country (The center of the US is in Kansas about 400 miles east of Denver) and the air fare is indeed about 25% higher from most locations to Denver than to Vegas. (thank you to my sister the travel agent) Yet, those of you who are defending holding the fan faire in Denver are probably doing more harm than good...I read through the posts here and I see people posting about driving hours to find something to do, or how the daily temp will be 54 degrees...but in the sunshine...as if that will make the temperature at 54 OK...or how when it does snow it's gone the next day...then I see the posts about Vegas and Orlando how the weather will be warm, probably mostly dry, WALKING to fun things to do and to top it off, at least in the case of Las Vegas, it's MUCH less expensive..I can't really even believe that they would consider holding this event in Denver in the Winter... </span></span> </i>

[ocam]

WOW what an exciting race! Vegas was in the lead by nearly 80 votes, I went to take a shower, came back 20 minutes later and Denver had taken the lead! how exciting!

[Misstre]

When the poll is over will we be able to book the room or have to wait closer to the date of the fan fair that wins?

[Raki]

<p>Sucks that about half the people that voted Orlando did'nt come back and vote again. Orlando could have easily taken the lead in the old post.</p><p>West Coast still sucks.</p><p>~the sore loser.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Inappropriate comments removed</span></p>

[Ashlanne]

<cite>Misstress wrote:</cite><blockquote>When the poll is over will we be able to book the room or have to wait closer to the date of the fan fair that wins?</blockquote><p>It would probably be wise to wait until we announce that a contract has been signed before booking rooms and flights.</p>

[Igie]

I have nothing against Denver at all. (Orlando, well I used to live there and am maybe biased against it). I've been to Devner several times (hugh Avs and Broncos fan) and I have been snowed out of going a couple times. If it were more in the Spring/Summer time, I'd be more then happy with Denver. Fact is, people in the Northren part of the country and the North West especially run the risk of getting snowed out of their plans. Same applies to Orlando becasue those north depature points are prone to bad snows in March. Vegas is the only date where people should not run into that problem. (P.S. Ashlanne, do you check your PMs? There is something I need to ask you)

[Ber]

<p>ok well i'm sorry if this gets removed for refering to the conspiracy theroy, but i just felt i had to post it...</p><p>I really wish orlando would win because this is for my birthday present and it and denver are the only 2 locations i could really do much in, because in vegas from what i heard it seems a lot of drinking and such...plus im an east coaster and i wouldnt want to fly all the way out to vegas (like 10 hours not counting waiting) for a fan faire that will last just about as long as the flights... <img src="/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Well yeah thats all i have to say, i just felt i needed to tell someone <img src="/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Ashlanne]

<cite>Igie wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have nothing against Denver at all. (Orlando, well I used to live there and am maybe biased against it). I've been to Devner several times (hugh Avs and Broncos fan) and I have been snowed out of going a couple times. If it were more in the Spring/Summer time, I'd be more then happy with Denver. Fact is, people in the Northren part of the country and the North West especially run the risk of getting snowed out of their plans. Same applies to Orlando becasue those north depature points are prone to bad snows in March. Vegas is the only date where people should not run into that problem. (P.S. Ashlanne, do you check your PMs? There is something I need to ask you) </blockquote> Of course I check my PMs <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> usually once every hour or so when I am at work.

[Sassums]

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Igie wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have nothing against Denver at all. (Orlando, well I used to live there and am maybe biased against it). I've been to Devner several times (hugh Avs and Broncos fan) and I have been snowed out of going a couple times. If it were more in the Spring/Summer time, I'd be more then happy with Denver. Fact is, people in the Northren part of the country and the North West especially run the risk of getting snowed out of their plans. Same applies to Orlando becasue those north depature points are prone to bad snows in March. Vegas is the only date where people should not run into that problem. (P.S. Ashlanne, do you check your PMs? There is something I need to ask you) </blockquote> Of course I check my PMs <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> usually once every hour or so when I am at work.</blockquote> Ashlanne is awesome at responding to PM's, she is on the ball! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[yodam]

March is our Snowiest month!  Skiing!  Boarding!  Get out from behind your computers and tear it up on the slopes! And besides, Denver IS not only the center of the US, it's the center of the world!  I know, because I can draw a line from Denver in any direction on the globe and meet on the opposite side at precisely the same distance!  That makes it the center!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Don't bother me with logic, I'm living a mile high! Got Snow?

[Bunda]

Thank you for that enlightened information about snow! I know I want to come to Denver in March at the end of the winter when all i want to think about is spring and go play in snow after driving to the slopes 2 hour away! Sounds like a blast.. What I really would like to know is how Denver keeps geting 50-60 votes in a matter of 30-60 minutes and pulls ahead of Vegas...

[Igie]

<cite>Bunda wrote:</cite><blockquote>Thank you for that enlightened information about snow! I know I want to come to Denver in March at the end of the winter when all i want to think about is spring and go play in snow after driving to the slopes 2 hour away! Sounds like a blast.. What I really would like to know is how Denver keeps geting 50-60 votes in a matter of 30-60 minutes and pulls ahead of Vegas... </blockquote> I know how. And hopefully it will stop <a href="http://help.station.sony.com/cgi-bin/soe.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=16310&amp;p_created=1146608838&amp;p_s id=akHPlC8i&amp;p_lva=&amp;p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PW RmbHQmcF9ncmlkc29ydD0mcF9yb3dfY250PTY5JnBfcHJvZHM9 MCZwX2NhdHM9MCZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJj" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Soon™</a>

[Igie]

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Igie wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have nothing against Denver at all. (Orlando, well I used to live there and am maybe biased against it). I've been to Devner several times (hugh Avs and Broncos fan) and I have been snowed out of going a couple times. If it were more in the Spring/Summer time, I'd be more then happy with Denver. Fact is, people in the Northren part of the country and the North West especially run the risk of getting snowed out of their plans. Same applies to Orlando becasue those north depature points are prone to bad snows in March. Vegas is the only date where people should not run into that problem. (P.S. Ashlanne, do you check your PMs? There is something I need to ask you) </blockquote> Of course I check my PMs <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> usually once every hour or so when I am at work.</blockquote>Well you know, I have TH all day over on the SWG forums and Zat on the PS forums. Sometimes it's a toss up <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Bunda]

Igie check your PMs please.

[lornick]

Denver FTW

[Bunda]

It just strikes me odd, and I know I am not the only one who has seen this, Denver would be trailing by upward of 80 votes and in a matter of 15-20 minutes they are in the lead by nearly 20 votes...Now i don't know what's going on, but it seems very strange, especially when I have witnessed it 2 times where it would have been very early in the morning in Denver...Like between 5:30 and 7 AM when most people who play would be asleep or going to work...I don't want to sound like I am sounding a conspiracy alarm, I just want this to be a FAIR poll..maybe the guy who said this poll wasn't a good idea was right..

[Crolack]

<p>I actually care less where it is, I do care when it is MARCH = BAD.</p><p>Please give us better dates. June is good for me, that's why I voted for Vegas.</p><p>April was perfect.</p>

[mattador]

i just talked to everyone in the world and they said we want to go to las vegas.  Vote for vegas its where your best friends are planning on going!  And ill be there, and ill say hi to you.

[Raki]

<p>I'm to stoopid to do quotes so here comes a ghetto quote.</p><p>"It just strikes me odd, and I know I am not the only one who has seen this, Denver would be trailing by upward of 80 votes and in a matter of 15-20 minutes they are in the lead by nearly 20 votes...Now i don't know what's going on, but it seems very strange, especially when I have witnessed it 2 times where it would have been very early in the morning in Denver...Like between 5:30 and 7 AM when most people who play would be asleep or going to work...I don't want to sound like I am sounding a conspiracy alarm, I just want this to be a FAIR poll..maybe the guy who said this poll wasn't a good idea was right.."</p><p>I think the poll was fine how it was originally. I think they change screwed alot of things up, therefor causing people to complain (like me. I feel nerfed). I guess I did'nt see the point of running a poll, then changing the poll after like one thousand people had voted. You cant expect everyone to know the poll was changed so you lose a ton of votes.</p><p>My suggestion would be to have 2 fan faires. One on the east coast for the east coasters, and one on the west coast for the west coasters. Its hard for people to get to one side of the country to another. Also to my knowledge a majority (like 90%? Correct me if I am wrong) of the Fan Faires have been west coast or closer to the west coast. </p>

[Bunda]

<cite>Raki wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I'm to stoopid to do quotes so here comes a ghetto quote.</p><p>"It just strikes me odd, and I know I am not the only one who has seen this, Denver would be trailing by upward of 80 votes and in a matter of 15-20 minutes they are in the lead by nearly 20 votes...Now i don't know what's going on, but it seems very strange, especially when I have witnessed it 2 times where it would have been very early in the morning in Denver...Like between 5:30 and 7 AM when most people who play would be asleep or going to work...I don't want to sound like I am sounding a conspiracy alarm, I just want this to be a FAIR poll..maybe the guy who said this poll wasn't a good idea was right.."</p><p>I think the poll was fine how it was originally. I think they change screwed alot of things up, therefor causing people to complain (like me. I feel nerfed). I guess I did'nt see the point of running a poll, then changing the poll after like one thousand people had voted. You cant expect everyone to know the poll was changed so you lose a ton of votes.</p><p>My suggestion would be to have 2 fan faires. One on the east coast for the east coasters, and one on the west coast for the west coasters. Its hard for people to get to one side of the country to another. Also to my knowledge a majority (like 90%? Correct me if I am wrong) of the Fan Faires have been west coast or closer to the west coast. </p></blockquote>You are quite right actually. Before 2005 SOE did indeed hold 2 fan faires per year, one in the spring and one in the fall, generally the spring was west coast and the the fall was in the east. I can see why everyone here appears so desperate to hold the Fan Faire in their city sonce there is now only one per year and it costs a lot of money to travel anywhere...SOE Should bring back 2 shows a year, it would help to eliminate the bickering and they would still have plenty of people to attend. No, actually the events have been about 50/50 east/west but you have to remember that they use the Mississippi river as the dividing point, not the coast lines..SO shows in teh midwest were considered east coast. How about it Ashlanne, could we go back to 2 shows a year??

[Jad]

<p>How many of you that prefer Denver and Orlando would still go to FF if it is in Vegas? I prefer Vegas and will only go if it is in Vegas. I like the fan faire activities, but not all of them. </p><p> The idea I get to catch a show, gamble, see the rest of the sites and play in Vegas with my guild mates across the globe is what sells me on going. Also there is no substitute for a 24 hour city. Denver and Orlando I would have to pass.</p>

[Ber]

Raki wrote: <blockquote><p>I think the poll was fine how it was originally. I think they change screwed alot of things up, therefor causing people to complain (like me. I feel nerfed). I guess I did'nt see the point of running a poll, then changing the poll after like one thousand people had voted. You cant expect everyone to know the poll was changed so you lose a ton of votes.</p><p>My suggestion would be to have 2 fan faires. One on the east coast for the east coasters, and one on the west coast for the west coasters. Its hard for people to get to one side of the country to another. Also to my knowledge a majority (like 90%? Correct me if I am wrong) of the Fan Faires have been west coast or closer to the west coast. </p></blockquote><p>You speak good words /notworthy</p><p><img src="/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

[Dibbl]

<cite>Jaden wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>How many of you that prefer Denver and Orlando would still go to FF if it is in Vegas? I prefer Vegas and will only go if it is in Vegas. I like the fan faire activities, but not all of them. </p><p> The idea I get to catch a show, gamble, see the rest of the sites and play in Vegas with my guild mates across the globe is what sells me on going. Also there is no substitute for a 24 hour city. Denver and Orlando I would have to pass.</p></blockquote><p> Orlando is the only place that will get me this year. I have done 3 that I either had to drive across multiple states or fly to (including Vegas) and it is just not worth it this year. Vegas is okay to do, but having seen all the shows I want to see I am done with Vegas for a few years.</p><p>/mourn. Will miss seeing the Fan Faire folks.</p><p>- Dibbler</p>

[Bunda]

What the heck is up with the vote count? There is NO way that 500 more votes were cast for each side in just a matter of 2 hours or so.....I am calling shenanigans...

[Vita_Asham]

<p>Obviously, this poll has become a joke.  1,000 votes cast in a little more than an hour?  and teh voting is within "3" votes?  impossible odds.  I for one think that this is a been made into a game.  Orlando is the only place i will go for Fan Faire, or perhaps Vegas, but this voting is just a freaking joke.</p>

[EqTinker]

What I have noticed is that as long as I keep my browser open and hit refresh, it doesnt refresh the vote counts correctly.  If I close it and then reopen the browser then it appears to show the correct updated totals.  Not sure if it is only on my browser not refreshing properly or just a bug. 

[Bunda]

I have my browser set up to refresh this page every 5 minutes, its not a refresh issue...it looks like someone has found a voting exploit....even creating "ghost" accounts cant make up that many votes that quickly...

[Killinga]

Ok, I give up. This has gotten ridiculous. Just end the poll and draw straws, throw a dart at a map while blindfolded or something but I'm calling foul on these Denver & Vegas votes lately. People keep talking about where Denver votes come from suddenly to keep it withing 10 votes but if Dener is ahead then Vegas gets votes to withing 10. Then suddenly both get over 500 votes and again withing 10 seperate the 2??? BTW What was wrong with the original poll?

[Bunda]

the same thing was going on with the original poll too, just not so pronounced because there were many more choices..I beleive there is a post here poiting out the pitfalls of chosing the location via poll. I think the selection has really become cut throat since SOE started having only one fan faire a year....I know I won't go to Denver because it's in March and I am not using my vacation to go from one cold climate to another...PLUS Vegas is much less expensive overall..