View Full Version : Selecting a Fan Faire location via poll???
Olavf_of_Guk
08-05-2006, 10:32 AM
The typical Fan Faire attendance is roughly 2-3000 right? SO why make a poll and give every account one vote? People with multiple accounts will be able to vote more than one time, People will go to their guilds and encourage them to go to the poll and vote for a location, even though they have no interest in attending. Eventually you are going to end up with 2-3 times the number of votes than you will have attendees... This isn't the right way to do this. this should be done via EMAIL and only those who have attended a fan faire in the past should recieve the mail. That way most people will only get one vote and it will be impossible for entire guilds to help "fix" the poll if they have never attended....
Sassums
08-05-2006, 04:09 PM
<p>With that, you run into some problems. Many people use different email address for each account they have, so by doing it by email, would still give you the same problem, the same person voting more then once.</p><p>Also, by only sending folks who have gone to a Fan Faire in the past an email, you leave out those who just havent been able to get to one, like myself. That speaks for itself really, just unfair.</p>
Olavf_of_Guk
08-05-2006, 07:17 PM
No, when you register for fan faire you only use one account. Unless someone has been to mutiple Fan Faires AND used multiple accounts to register you would only ever recieve one email. SO you would only get one vote.. As far as never been to fan faire so you wouldn't get to vote...Once you have been to a few (I have been to 6) you will see it's MOSTLY the same old faces in the crown who attend..Sure, you wouldn't get to vote for the first one you attended, but it much more fair to do it that way than to have a 200 member guild flood the poll with votes to wherever when only 6 of their members plan to attend...Sometimes life isn't fair...you just have to do your best.
Sassums
08-05-2006, 09:36 PM
To be honest, I fail to see your point, other then you dont think its fair how these locations are chosen. Ashlanne has posted what they are looking for when they choose a location. Also, none of these locations are even within 1000miles of me, sure Im a bit upset, but thats life. The way they choose is as simple as it gets, nothing wrong with that.
Olavf_of_Guk
08-06-2006, 02:05 AM
You can't see how giving people more than one vote or asking an entire guild to vote for your selection is unfair? It's as clear as the nose on your face. By giving people more than one vote or accepting votes from people with no intention to go you are skewing the selection... What if they were having the Fan Faire in your state but several guilds joined together to vote for another location even though they have no intention of attending? (No my state isn't listed, the closest on to me is 1000+ miles away) If you can't see how unfair this poll is you must be a democrat..
Roethg
08-06-2006, 04:44 AM
<p>And who would be the one to decide who is REALLY planning to attend and who is not and only voting?... Any vote can only be a fair and impartial vote if ALL involved are allowed to vote should they so choose to do so. Telling someone you can't vote on Fan Fair location because you have never been to one would be like sayiong you can't vote on the American Presidency because i don't think you really care about politics....</p><p>In short, if someone is paying a monthly fee to play EQ, then thier opinion should count, no matter why they choose to vote the way they do... thier voice has a right to be geard</p>
Olavf_of_Guk
08-06-2006, 02:45 PM
I didn't say it was fair, I said it was MORE fair than allowing people to bribe or buy votes from guild members and friends that have no intention of going. And as far as voting for the president, yes I believe that people SHOULD have to pass a test to prove they know what's going on in the world around them before they vote...I think people should use their HEAD when voting not their emotions...
Olavf_of_Guk
08-06-2006, 02:51 PM
OK let me put this another way, I belong to a guild with branches in nearly every SOE game currently online We have about 2300 accounts between us...when the current poll gets close to being over, I am going to go to our game forums and ask our members to vote for where I want to go for Fan Faire... So How does that strike you? All of the sudden the poll doesn't look so fair now does it?
Sassums
08-06-2006, 06:56 PM
<p>Okay I am going to jump in on all the latest commends, if I can remember them. Also please knock the name calling off, you dont need nor want to be the first person banned on these forums over such a silly issue. </p><p>Every account that votes is paying $15 a month, like everyone else. Therefor, no matter how/why they vote matters. Even if a whole guild is going to vote for a location that none of them are going to, and to be honest, I voted for the closest/coolest location on the poll and really I dont have an intention of going, but then again it is next year and things might change. </p><p>You are only stating your opinion, as am I, and you think it is unfair, others disagree. </p><p>Also a discussion on Politics, last time I checked, is against the rules, so Im not going to comment on that stupid remark. But in short, people can vote how they please, whether it be emotions or inteligence, thats why America is such a cool country (No dis intended for others). Thus the reason we are "free" so to speak.</p><p>Finally, good for you, you and your guild of 2300 people, somehow i find that hard to beleive, are going to go vote for some location, even though many of them do not want to attend. Thus you are doing exacty what you are standing up against. You say it is unfair, yet you do it anyway. Thus this whole discussion has been a waste of time. And no, it doesnt strike me as unfair, it strikes me as your very rude to do something of that sort, but people can vote how they please, regardless of who tells them to vote where.</p>
Olavf_of_Guk
08-06-2006, 10:11 PM
We have guild branches in every game SOE makes. 700 SOE members with 900+ accounts. We also have branches in WoW EVE online and few other non SOE games. I know that those people can't vote here, that's why I said 700..Yep, you're right it would be rude, just as rude as others doing the same thing...Jut as rude as if a very large guild decided to come here and vote for the place with the least amount of votes and Fan Faire were to be held in a very unpolular location...that is EXACTLY why polling to find a Fan Faire location has serious flaws..thank you for making my case for me. I don't care where FF is held. If it's someplace that I personally don't find appealing I won't attend. Would I like it to be someplace that I voted for or at least someplace I would like to visit, sure...But to allow anyone to come here and cast a vote (or mulitple votes) knowing that they have no intention of going cheapens the votes of those who WILL attend and leaves open every posiibility that Fan Faire will be someplace very few of us would go... If Fan Faire atttendance drops off, SOE will stop holding them... Just for the record, my 5 accounts voted all for the same place...See isn't that fair?? OH and 3 of those are inactive..
Sassums
08-07-2006, 02:18 AM
Sony is not going to stop them, sure if they have 10 people show up, then they might second guess the idea. But from the 2k votes we have so far, I dont think that will happen. This who discussion is getting out of hand, you flame or argue with anyone that disagrees with your statement.
Ashlanne
08-07-2006, 06:15 PM
<p>People are welcome to ask there guilds to vote I posted to my guilds web site asking them to vote, I didn't tell them which city to vote for though and even if someone did that they aren't breaking the rules. We can't send these polls out to only people who have been to Fan Faire. Many people have never been because the location wasn't easy for them for them to get to. So we make it public so those folks can vote for a location they can get to easily.</p><p>Stop the bickering and conspiracy theories.</p>
Chica2
08-09-2006, 12:13 PM
<p>Please refrain from personal attacks</p>
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