Shades of Drinal: Puzzle Pieces [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

Cronyn

11-01-2012, 04:16 PM

K, I believe I know what the issue is.I suspect you don't have Unexpected Consequences completed. Since the bauble bug caused a lot of people to skip over that quest for beta, he's probably invisible to a lot of people.The problem is that a few NPC's on this line share that predicate, so there's going to be other places that you get stuck. If you can, I'd recommend completing Unexpected Consequences so that you don't run into the issue again. Note that on Live, this shouldn't be an issue - the quest will require that you complete Unexpected Consequences before you even get the Shades of Drinal line, so you should be okay there.If you do have it completed already though, let me know. I'll proceed to slam my head on my desk for 20 minutes then I'll figure out why computer logic hates me.

Silmeria

11-01-2012, 08:38 PM

I completed Unexpected Consequences.

Cronyn

11-01-2012, 08:54 PM

Please imagine 20 minutes of *headdesk* here.After that, I'll let you know what I found out.

Irgun

11-02-2012, 07:29 AM

After the step of Wurmbone Crag/End you gotta go to "Chelsith: The Lost Vault" , but there is only a "Chelsith: The Ancient Vault" - no updates in/around there.....so.....stuck!

Reptilgubben

11-02-2012, 07:35 AM

also completed unexpected consequensescan only see the normal npc's and ravinus in the ferrott camp .

Cronyn

11-02-2012, 03:07 PM

Ugh - I'm stumped. I've looked at it, I've had QA look at it, we're not able to reproduce this. We can see him once we've completed Unexpected Consequences.Can one of you PM the character name you're seeing this on? I'd like to get a copy of the character and see if I can figure out how you got into this state so I can fix it. I don't want players on Live getting in this state.

Cronyn

11-02-2012, 03:09 PM

<cite>Irgin@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote>After the step of Wurmbone Crag/End you gotta go to "Chelsith: The Lost Vault" , but there is only a "Chelsith: The Ancient Vault" - no updates in/around there.....so.....stuck!</blockquote>Oh heh, that's a text bug. I'll fix it - sometimes names on things are temporary during development. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />So yes, Ancient Vault is where you want to go. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Reptilgubben

11-02-2012, 03:31 PM

charname is reptilgubbenx.completed unexpected consequences on live ages ago

Irgun

11-02-2012, 04:27 PM

<cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Irgin@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote>After the step of Wurmbone Crag/End you gotta go to "Chelsith: The Lost Vault" , but there is only a "Chelsith: The Ancient Vault" - no updates in/around there.....so.....stuck!</blockquote>Oh heh, that's a text bug. I'll fix it - sometimes names on things are temporary during development. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />So yes, Ancient Vault is where you want to go. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Well, nevertheless theres no update on the step where you have to find Ancient Vault, theres the POI missing to update it I guess.Offtopic: same on POI of Harrow`s End, there is none, which means you cant complete the exploration Obol plains achievement since you dont get a pling. (pls let Gninja know, thx) <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Arweena69

11-02-2012, 06:45 PM

So in reading the text for this there's a part that's a little confusing.Copy from my logDrinal's Steward<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />rinal's Steward/a says to you, "When the other gods left Norrath, they closed off their planes of existence to mortals. The beings of Norrath continued to perish, but their spirits had final resting place... except Ethernere."I think it's supposed to be:Drinal's Steward<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />rinal's Steward/a says to you, "When the other gods left Norrath, they closed off their planes of existence to mortals. The beings of Norrath continued to perish, but their spirits had no final resting place... except Ethernere."

Nebbeny

11-02-2012, 07:12 PM

I ran through Ancient Vault whilst on this step, after spending ages running around trying to find another zone near the old chelsith, didn't get an update. Any ETA on when the fix for this will be in so we can carry on doing the quest?

Arweena69

11-02-2012, 07:36 PM

So I have not completed 'Unexpected Consequences' on live so I just did it real fast and I was able to update my quest with no problems.

Cronyn

11-02-2012, 07:58 PM

OKAY!!! After much pain and suffering and more pain and more suffering (with some pain and suffering thrown in), I believe we figured it out.On the characters we copied and looked at, they each had completed the quest Shades of Drinal: Fate's Crusade - that's the last quest in the sig line. Rikantus, Erus, and The Duality (when he's put proper - his predicate is gone right now) all disappear when that quest is completed.It looks like these characters have already run through the Obol Plains signature line, which will break the progression for Puzzle Pieces.However, this is not a problem you should run into on Live. The quest should naturally progress lineraly, which means you can't pick up Shades of Drinal: Cardin Protection until you've completed Shades of Drinal: Puzzle Pieces.So, if you HAVEN'T finished Fate's Crusade, and you HAVE finished Unexpected Consequences and you STILL can't see Rikantus when you're supposed to, let me know. Then the pain and suffering can resume over here. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Now I think I am going to collapse and drool on my desk for a while.

Cronyn

11-02-2012, 08:03 PM

<cite>Nebbeny wrote:</cite><blockquote>I ran through Ancient Vault whilst on this step, after spending ages running around trying to find another zone near the old chelsith, didn't get an update. Any ETA on when the fix for this will be in so we can carry on doing the quest?</blockquote>Actually, I put a pointer in for this today. BUT, you can get to where you need to go if you talk to Clessi Hergravis on the ship where you find Erus Dal'viv. She can port you right outside the Ancient Vault. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Cronyn

11-02-2012, 08:13 PM

<cite>Arweena@Unrest_old wrote:</cite><blockquote>So in reading the text for this there's a part that's a little confusing.Copy from my logDrinal's Steward<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />rinal's Steward/a says to you, "When the other gods left Norrath, they closed off their planes of existence to mortals. The beings of Norrath continued to perish, but their spirits had final resting place... except Ethernere."I think it's supposed to be:Drinal's Steward<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />rinal's Steward/a says to you, "When the other gods left Norrath, they closed off their planes of existence to mortals. The beings of Norrath continued to perish, but their spirits had no final resting place... except Ethernere."</blockquote>You are correct! I will fix this. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Thank you!

Nebbeny

11-02-2012, 09:44 PM

<cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Nebbeny wrote:</cite><blockquote>I ran through Ancient Vault whilst on this step, after spending ages running around trying to find another zone near the old chelsith, didn't get an update. Any ETA on when the fix for this will be in so we can carry on doing the quest?</blockquote>Actually, I put a pointer in for this today. BUT, you can get to where you need to go if you talk to Clessi Hergravis on the ship where you find Erus Dal'viv. She can port you right outside the Ancient Vault. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I went to the zone in prior to posting and ran through the zone hoping to get an update somewhere in there but no such luck. After seeing this post and using the teleport, quest dinged whilst swimming between port point and the zone. Unless you fixed this recently then the update area must be pretty small since I missed it the first time <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />However, rest of the quest updated just fine and I got the disco on the reward, so first I guess <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Arweena69

11-03-2012, 08:52 PM

So where in JW are we supposed to find the Deepwater Circle people? I can't seem to find them, hoping I didn't bug myself by finishing the Obol quest line before this one

Meare

11-03-2012, 10:07 PM

There is a boat in the water SE of the dock. That where I saw the deepwater NPC

shannontroester

11-03-2012, 10:38 PM

hmm, so anyone find the map and 2 halves? they must not glow or anything cause I ran through the whole zone without finding one <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Arweena69

11-03-2012, 11:11 PM

the 2 pieces are little dragon statues in the back of the room with fire and ice guys, the map is on the ground under the statue in the last named room of the solo instance of ST

Reptilgubben

11-04-2012, 03:29 AM

i have finnished unexpected consequenses and fate's crusadeand i can't see rikantus in feerrott camp

Gaarysal

11-04-2012, 09:01 PM

Is it possible to fix the Rikantus step on beta? or are we SOL till live? If it's too hard to fix would it be possible to permaspawn the npc visible to all on beta? The only reason I did Obol first is because the weapon racks were broken <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'd hate to have spent 3+ hours on this questline just to get gated at the end here.

Arweena69

11-05-2012, 01:23 AM

Looks like I've managed to bug my Templar on the step where she needs to talk to Erus Dal'viv in JW <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />My monk who has not completed the Obol quest lines can seem him fine but the Templar who has can't see him.

aphf1d

11-05-2012, 07:30 AM

yeah, echoing others, it would be nice to see Rikantus and to be able to continue.I've just spent 12 hours on my day off doing the solo quest line so I could see what happens at the end and am stopped at Rikantus. On Obol plains I'm stopped on the "Out of the fire"step.I know it's beta and all, and the problem is occuring coz i didn't finish unintended consequences before I copied over...but you guys made the starter available knowing this. Kinda bad form to block us now.Xpac is looking aweseome by the way<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

RogueSpideyChick

11-05-2012, 10:28 AM

<cite>Arweena@Unrest_old wrote:</cite><blockquote>Looks like I've managed to bug my Templar on the step where she needs to talk to Erus Dal'viv in JW <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />My monk who has not completed the Obol quest lines can seem him fine but the Templar who has can't see him.</blockquote>i was bugged yesterday, deleted the drinal quests for odol plains that i had just started while i'd been waiting for the other quests in eidolon to be fixed, relogged & he was there. it was weird because the map showed he was there with the ?, tracking showed he was there, but i just couldn't see him. i relogged without deleting the quest, still a no show, deleted the quest, relogged again, poof, he was there.

Arweena69

11-05-2012, 02:27 PM

<cite>Arica@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Arweena@Unrest_old wrote:</cite><blockquote>Looks like I've managed to bug my Templar on the step where she needs to talk to Erus Dal'viv in JW <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />My monk who has not completed the Obol quest lines can seem him fine but the Templar who has can't see him.</blockquote>i was bugged yesterday, deleted the drinal quests for odol plains that i had just started while i'd been waiting for the other quests in eidolon to be fixed, relogged & he was there. it was weird because the map showed he was there with the ?, tracking showed he was there, but i just couldn't see him. i relogged without deleting the quest, still a no show, deleted the quest, relogged again, poof, he was there.</blockquote>Unfortunately deleteing the Obol quests is not an option for me as they are all completed <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Irgun

11-05-2012, 03:15 PM

Same here, completed Unexpected Consequences plus the Obol signature line, and cant see Erus in JW after the Chelsith: Ancient Vault-step.

Reptilgubben

11-05-2012, 07:04 PM

is it possible to get some sort of fix on this? have nothing to do or test now on beta <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Eshaac

11-06-2012, 11:45 AM

Ok, I'm stuck...Here are 2 pics of what I see on my puter screen.Quest says I must get map and the 2 keys from sleepers tomb. but I do not see the name of the zone the quest says to go to and I'm solo'n it.. nothing but heroic 3^'s and raid..<img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o91/Heppyeq2/Journal.jpg" width="715" height="547" />Says "contested"<img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o91/Heppyeq2/sleeperzoneentrance.jpg" width="356" height="233" />You can see nothing here about "contested" not that I think it is where a solo'r should be going anyway.. hahahahaEshaacOk, edit... have found two problems... one is the dragon that you are to speak to is really parked at the wrong zone portal, instead of being at the top portal, she should really be at the bottom one in the pit as that is the door with the "contested" choice on it. Also "contested is way, way to hard for a solo'r, I mean come on. lvl 101 3^'s? really? for a solo'r doing this quest? There are no other selections unless it is the forgotten catacombs advanced solo that is supposed to be the selection..<img src="http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o91/Heppyeq2/lowerlvlselection.jpg" width="431" height="236" />EshaacAlso note that I started this at almost lvl 93, though I'm am now lvl 93 and I can "not" kill the pyre; keep of flames mob. I've now tried more ways than I can count and at my current lvl of 93 it is a no go.. hahahaha.. ggrrr

Arweena69

11-06-2012, 11:51 AM

<cite>Eshaac wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, I'm stuck...Here are 2 pics of what I see on my puter screen.Quest says I must get map and the 2 keys from sleepers tomb. but I do not see the name of the zone the quest says to go to and I'm solo'n it.. nothing but heroic 3^'s and raid..Says "contested"You can see nothing here about "contested" not that I think it is where a solo'r should be going anyway.. hahahahaEshaac</blockquote>Pictures deleted so the post isn't terribly long.Your problem is a simple one ... your not clicking on the door to ST ... go into the pit, there is a short tunnel with a door at the end, click on said door.The option you want is not the contested zone it's the solo one.

Arweena69

11-06-2012, 05:15 PM

So I just ran Wurmbone's End and I was able to find the second Monolith but I can't seem to find the first Monolith <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Did it just miss it somewhere or is it supposed to be an update when killing something like the second?

Chalysa

11-07-2012, 05:21 PM

<cite>Arweena@Unrest_old wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eshaac wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, I'm stuck...Here are 2 pics of what I see on my puter screen.Quest says I must get map and the 2 keys from sleepers tomb. but I do not see the name of the zone the quest says to go to and I'm solo'n it.. nothing but heroic 3^'s and raid..Says "contested"You can see nothing here about "contested" not that I think it is where a solo'r should be going anyway.. hahahahaEshaac</blockquote>Pictures deleted so the post isn't terribly long.Your problem is a simple one ... your not clicking on the door to ST ... go into the pit, there is a short tunnel with a door at the end, click on said door.The option you want is not the contested zone it's the solo one.</blockquote>this need`s to be put in the quest journal, if it goes live saying that you need to go into the contested ST, people will either refuse to run it, or go in groups, be unable to find the updates and get po`d. please fix the journal so it has the proper zone info.

Queenelizabeth

11-07-2012, 06:48 PM

Same here, I cannot find the first monolith in Wurmbone's End. I do notice the quest says to search for the first piece, and I see an upper area with a "glowy thingie" (technical terms are my strong suit) but I cannot find a way up there to search and I've searched the rest of the zone.

Whilhelmina

11-07-2012, 07:06 PM

I don't suppose you could find a way to allow us who already did the Obol timeline to skip the duality step in Feerrott?Something else: I found it nice to be able to do the OP timeline without having to do the EJ timeline first. I don't like linear stuff and all, so it annoys me to be forced into a single questing line. I assume from what was said above that we'll have to run the whole EJ timeline first? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Arweena69

11-07-2012, 08:26 PM

The 1st peice in Wurmbone's end is near the Necromonger guy, kinda have to look around for it but it is there.Yes it appears we'll be forced to complete all of the EJ line before we'll even be able to zone into Obol so oh joy oh joy...Edit: My monk is stuck on the Chelsith part now, says something about looking around for additional useful stuff but I can't get the 3rd named to pop cause there is no crystal to click on when I do the zone. I may recopy my Templar and start the questline over since we can beta buff to 95 now but not really looking forward to the idea of having to go solo all this stuff again on a class that can barely solo her big toe ...

Misia

11-07-2012, 10:18 PM

I had ended up stuck on this part of the time line (posted about it before), and that got fixed. However, I went ahead without completing this segment. Now I need to talk with the Duality and can't because he's no longer there.Can you push my quest forward?

Dobrznah

11-08-2012, 02:04 AM

<blockquote>I had ended up stuck on this part of the time line (posted about it before), and that got fixed. However, I went ahead without completing this segment. Now I need to talk with the Duality and can't because he's no longer there.Can you push my quest forward?</blockquote>+1 now it is quest not to execute on test??<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />

Meare

11-08-2012, 03:23 PM

Ok, there is a simple fix to this for those that completed the OP timeline, but it will take time...First, recopy the toon from live to reset the toon to 92, then use mail item (which I got one today) to go to 95, and then go do the questline again from start to finish...Or take the advice of someone doing the quest, first go to Sleeper tomb and clean the zone out, then go to Wurmbone Crag and clear the zone, then go to Wurmbone's End and clear zone, then hit chelsith. Seems that is the quest steps, and if you want info on those steps feel free to look it up on those related topics.

Cronyn

11-08-2012, 04:38 PM

Sorry folks - I didn't mean to vanish for so long here. It's been kind of a mad sprint to get things polished and ready for release, but I think I've gotten to pretty much all you guys have reported here and through the feedback channels. Thank you!So yeah, unfortunately, there was no way for me to fix those on beta who were in the bugged state - we were too close to pulling the data for Live, and providing a beta fix would have busted it on Live. There wasn't a way around that, and I'm sorry about that.However, I may be jumping on beta over the next couple of days when I can, so if you see me, just ping me and I'll see if I can advance your quest past that point. Bear in mind, however, that you'll still be broken in other areas, since this same predicate exists across NPCs throughout the series. Again, this shouldn't be an issue on Live, but because we opened up both the Eidolon and Obol lines to get enough testing, this situation was made possible.But again, thanks for all of your feedback and reports! You guys helped out a ton! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Meare

11-08-2012, 05:52 PM

Thanks Cronyn for all your hard work. Finally did all the solo zones for Puzzle Pieces, though the heroic mobs in Wurmbone were quite nasty...Now it says to Return to Drinal's Steward in Obol Plains, but he not there anymore. Remembered before the linear set was enforced, a special quest was given in EJ to start the OP timeline. Must not of been fixed/switched over yet.

Cronyn

11-08-2012, 07:03 PM

Yeeeaaahhh... so that was me not properly communicating to Kaitheel that the Steward in Obol Plains needed a new view predicate on him. Rest assured that he came into this office full of rage and fury. I don't remember what happened after that - I just remember the terror.In any case, it's fixed now. And if any of you see Kaitheel, be sure and thank him for catching it - but don't tell him where you saw me.*hides*

Eshaac

11-09-2012, 06:25 AM

Ok, I'm at the part that tells me "return to Drinal's Steward in obol plains" however I can not see him. Some seem to be able to, but I'm not one of the lucky ones.. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I can go back to eidolon jungle through the poral and he is there, but does not respond to hails. Help!!! lolEshaac

Illmarr

11-09-2012, 11:31 AM

I am also stuck at the same point, having done the live pre-requisite before copying. If I understood correctly, Cronyn's post two posts back concerns it and they are working on a fix

Whilhelmina

11-09-2012, 08:14 PM

<cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeeeaaahhh... so that was me not properly communicating to Kaitheel that the Steward in Obol Plains needed a new view predicate on him. Rest assured that he came into this office full of rage and fury. I don't remember what happened after that - I just remember the terror.In any case, it's fixed now. And if any of you see Kaitheel, be sure and thank him for catching it - but don't tell him where you saw me.*hides*</blockquote>/hands out a nice beer barrel (located above a fire) for Cronyn to hide in

Cyliena

11-10-2012, 04:02 PM

Currently stuck on the Wurmbone Crag step because the King's adds are 95^^^ in the advanced solo zone. Had another player offer to help but it told them they couldn't join me because they don't meet entrance requirements. My merc (Perrin) got chewed up and spit out by the adds.edit: I managed to finish this step with the help of a level 95 partially raid-geared ranger.. even then it was close! The adds definitely need fixed.

Cyliena

11-10-2012, 05:56 PM

Find Chelsith: the update spot for this is far too small. I swam straight to the entrance and didn't update. I zoned in, out, back in, still no update. I camped out sitting on top of the entrance and logged back in, no update. Finally swam all crazy around it and got an update for finding it at /way -823.21, -56.22, 1215.16 ... which is off to the right of the entrance.

Cyliena

11-10-2012, 10:49 PM

Finally finished this quest a couple of hours ago. I have to admit this is my least favorite one so far. Nice story but four dungeons back-to-back, three of which you have to do in full, really is wearing.

Whilhelmina

11-11-2012, 08:10 AM

<cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote>edit: I managed to finish this step with the help of a level 95 partially raid-geared ranger.. even then it was close! The adds definitely need fixed.</blockquote>Honestly, it's worse than that. Llogwey was a fully mastered 95 ranger geared in a mix of easy and hard mode (skyshrine/drunder). You can check the <a href="http://u.eq2wire.com/soe/character_detail/1297080462134" target="_blank">EQ2U char</a>. If it's a close call with this kind of gear, then there's no way a regular char can run the zone.

tantric

11-11-2012, 03:50 PM

<cite>Whilhelmina@Storms wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeeeaaahhh... so that was me not properly communicating to Kaitheel that the Steward in Obol Plains needed a new view predicate on him. Rest assured that he came into this office full of rage and fury. I don't remember what happened after that - I just remember the terror.In any case, it's fixed now. And if any of you see Kaitheel, be sure and thank him for catching it - but don't tell him where you saw me.*hides*</blockquote>/hands out a nice beer barrel (located above a fire) for Cronyn to hide in</blockquote>Still can't see the steward