Unexpected Consequences

[Hordolin Awanagin]

<p>Erus Dal'viv quest dialog:</p><p><p>No just yet, no. However, <NPC NAME REMOVED FOR SPOILER> has taken quite an interest in the calendar mentioned within the notes as of late.</p><p>No just yet, no. should read Not just yet, no.</p><p>After you talk to Taith you are supposed to return to a nearby NPC but no POI on map.</p><p>The raven in Freeport drops under the world and is unfollowable past that point. It even disappears from track.</p><p>No POI for Ghostclaw in Thundering Steppes.</p><p>Behind Ghostclaw: That zone is currently unavailable.</p></p>

[Lylah]

<p>Same thing happened for me  - raven falls under the world after hailing.  Journal says to follow it and seconds later you get a journal update anyway and the map updates for next NPC to advance the quest. </p><p>Same issues with map/feather/book icons and zone unavailable.</p>

[Hordolin Awanagin]

<p>No quest bauble button for Ghostclaw's Talisman.</p><p>Still waiting for zone to be available <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Cronyn]

<p>Heya! So, sorry about the not-being-able-to-zone thing. However, that's intentional.</p><p>So, our art department was awesome enough to make a tailored zone for me for that step of the quest. It looks awesome!! Also, it has no floor right now. Unfortunately, if I let you in there now, this would happen:</p><p><img src="http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j442/cronyn2/omgnofloor.jpg" width="996" height="346" /></p><p>You can see how this might be "bad".</p><p>The art is fixed for me now, though - so it should be up the next time art gets pushed up to you guys (which I am told should be tomorrow).  This will make your adventure much less... fall-y.</p><p>Anyway, if you have any other feedback, let me know!  And thanks for checking out the quest!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Gninja]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Heya! So, sorry about the not-being-able-to-zone thing. However, that's intentional.</p><p>So, our art department was awesome enough to make a tailored zone for me for that step of the quest. It looks awesome!! Also, it has no floor right now. Unfortunately, if I let you in there now, this would happen:</p><p><img src="http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j442/cronyn2/omgnofloor.jpg" width="996" height="346" /></p><p>You can see how this might be "bad".</p><p>The art is fixed for me now, though - so it should be up the next time art gets pushed up to you guys (which I am told should be tomorrow).  This will make your adventure much less... fall-y.</p><p>Anyway, if you have any other feedback, let me know!  And thanks for checking out the quest!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Bravo...</p>

[Soresha]

<p><strong>Unexpected Consequences</strong></p><p>1. Another typo in dialog on Erus before quest - "and the notes he has seems to explicitly" - should just be "seem".</p><p>2. It seems a bit odd having 2 dialogs with you asking the same question twice in a row. First you ask (and I'm paraphasing) "is he looking to take possession of the object?" and you're told "not just yet" and you immediately ask again "are you planning to take it?" My toon isn't that low on intelligence! I understood the first time. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>3. No map POI for Taith McJarun - and I don't know where the location described is!</p><p>4. No map POI for Rikantus.</p><p>5. No quest book/feather returning to NPC after Rikantus. Or map POI.</p><p>6. When she goes a bit possessed and talks about the raven, I see the NPC fall down., Then stand up again and there's dialogue, then she falls down again.</p><p>7. Also in the stuff for 6. above, you don't get time to read and click on the dialogue between death states. It continues straight through.</p><p>8. First quest step when completed has name given without apostrophe as Erus Dalviv instead of Dal'viv.</p><p>9. (Qeynos) At the point Erus says he sees a bird behind you, well I don't see one. Which is rather confusing. It doesn't appear until you click a later dialogue step.</p><p>10. Raven step is cool and fun. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> In Qeynos it works fine. Only thing I noticed, at first it pauses frequently, Then going along the road between the houses it doesn't pause for a long time, maybe should have a couple stops added in there?</p><p>11. No map POI for Ghostclaw in Thundering Steppes.</p><p>I'm a fae, I can fly! Let me into the arty awesomeness! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Calthine]

<p>My level 90 character copied to Beta has not received the mail to start the Prelude.  Checking on some toons on Test.</p>

[Soresha]

<p>I think maybe something is wrong with sending out the mails to start this quest. Is it requiring level 92? Shouldn't it be for everyone?</p><p>I'm hearing multiple people saying "it's not on Test yet" or "it's not on Beta". And they're assuming it's just not there because they don't have the mail.</p><p>My two different level 92 toons (one good, one evil) both have the mail. One is on Test, the other on Beta. But my level 35 alt on Beta didn't get it. Calthine said she has a level 90 on Beta and that toon didn't get the mail either.</p>

[Hordolin Awanagin]

<p>I Was trying to figure out the pre-req's last night. Can't decide if it's 92 or if it's AA or if it's certain quests completed. (EDIT: I have it on 1 character out of 9. and it happens to be the 92/92/maxAA)</p><p>Cronyn: AWESOMESAUCE!! I'll take two of those in 14x10 glossy framed with the bones of gno...erm exquisite wood.</p>

[Cronyn]

<p>Requirement right now is just level 92.  As long as you've hit that level, you should get the message and be able to see Erus (who will hand you the quest whether you have the mail message or not, as long as you are 92).</p>

[ChrisMarchant]

<p>Since all other prelude events scaled to level, even if the expansion was at the cap at the time, a lot of players will be extremely disappointed if this was locked at cap.</p><p>AOD, DOV, SF, TSO all scaled to level, and those are just the ones I've done. </p><p>It seems to be the norm that the prelude events scaled, and I have been looking forward to testing this. </p>

[Calthine]

<p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I think maybe something is wrong with sending out the mails to start this quest. Is it requiring level 92? Shouldn't it be for everyone?</p><p>I'm hearing multiple people saying "it's not on Test yet" or "it's not on Beta". And they're assuming it's just not there because they don't have the mail.</p><p>My two different level 92 toons (one good, one evil) both have the mail. One is on Test, the other on Beta. But my level 35 alt on Beta didn't get it. Calthine said she has a level 90 on Beta and that toon didn't get the mail either.</p></blockquote><p>My level 20 on Test didn't get it.</p>

[Soresha]

<p><cite>ChrisMarchant wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Since all other prelude events scaled to level, even if the expansion was at the cap at the time, a lot of players will be extremely disappointed if this was locked at cap.</p><p>AOD, DOV, SF, TSO all scaled to level, and those are just the ones I've done. </p><p>It seems to be the norm that the prelude events scaled, and I have been looking forward to testing this. </p></blockquote><p>/agree most loudly!</p><p>It's a prelude quest for everyone, isn't it? Well it should be!</p><p>The Sleeper's Tomb stuff is 92 heroic, following on from Jorlak's stuff in Skyshrine. That's high end restricted for obvious reasons. But this prelude stuff is in Antonica! It should be for all the low level guys and soloers too.</p><p>Ugh... but I suppose this story follows on from all the Velious stuff though, right? <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Calthine]

<p><cite>ChrisMarchant wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Since all other prelude events scaled to level, even if the expansion was at the cap at the time, a lot of players will be extremely disappointed if this was locked at cap.</p><p>AOD, DOV, SF, TSO all scaled to level, and those are just the ones I've done. </p><p>It seems to be the norm that the prelude events scaled, and I have been looking forward to testing this. </p></blockquote><p>I agree. I cannot believe you'd make an event exclusionary.  Even if we cannot do the content, we should be able to enjoy the teaser and advancement of the story.</p>

[Cronyn]

<p>Okay so, I see the confusion, and I'm sorry about this!</p><p>So, this isn't intended to be a "prelude" in the vein of past prelude events - this is actually step one of the signature line for the expansion.  We're releasing it early to give you guys a lead in to the expansion, but it is actually intended to be part of the live content - in other words, it will remain once the expansion goes live (and will be part of that story).  It's similar to the Sleeper's content, intended for the appropriate levels.</p><p>Again, this will remain live once the expansion goes up, so you'll always have access to it - that's the way I always wanted it to be, which is why it can't scale - otherwise, a new level one player would have to wait a LOOOOOONG time to find out why (COMPLETELY RETRACTED THANKS GNINJA FOR POINTING OUT MY FLAWS).  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Sorry folks!  I didn't mean to throw you a curveball on this!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Matia]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Heya! So, sorry about the not-being-able-to-zone thing. However, that's intentional.</p><p>So, our art department was awesome enough to make a tailored zone for me for that step of the quest. It looks awesome!! Also, it has no floor right now. Unfortunately, if I let you in there now, this would happen:</p><p><img src="http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j442/cronyn2/omgnofloor.jpg" width="996" height="346" /></p><p>You can see how this might be "bad".</p><p>The art is fixed for me now, though - so it should be up the next time art gets pushed up to you guys (which I am told should be tomorrow).  This will make your adventure much less... fall-y.</p><p>Anyway, if you have any other feedback, let me know!  And thanks for checking out the quest!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Pfft. that happens to me every time I enter the Sebilis part of Kunzar. Bring it on!!! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Hordolin Awanagin]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Okay so, I see the confusion, and I'm sorry about this!</p><p>So, this isn't intended to be a "prelude" in the vein of past prelude events - this is actually step one of the signature line for the expansion.  We're releasing it early to give you guys a lead in to the expansion, but it is actually intended to be part of the live content - in other words, it will remain once the expansion goes live (and will be part of that story).  It's similar to the Sleeper's content, intended for the appropriate levels.</p><p>Again, this will remain live once the expansion goes up, so you'll always have access to it - that's the way I always wanted it to be, which is why it can't scale - otherwise, a new level one player would have to wait a LOOOOOONG time to find out why (COMPLETELY RETRACTED THANKS GNINJA FOR POINTING OUT MY FLAWS).  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Sorry folks!  I didn't mean to throw you a curveball on this!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Lol. Nice edit. We were trying to not say anything about that. Love the story so far.</p>

[Cronyn]

<p>I know, right?  I'm my own spoiler-er.  Yeesh!</p><p>Well, here's the fixes I put in for the line based on feedback!<span ></span></p><ul><li>No just yet, no. should read Not just yet, no.</li></ul><p>Fixed this!</p><ul><li>After you talk to Taith you are supposed to return to a nearby NPC but no POI on map.</li></ul><p>Done, added the POI here.</p><ul><li>The raven in Freeport drops under the world and is unfollowable past that point. It even disappears from track.</li></ul><p>Err, I wasn't able to reproduce this one.  I'll take another look at it when I get a chance.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><ul><li>No POI for Ghostclaw in Thundering Steppes.</li></ul><p>Fixed, added POI here.</p><ul><li>No quest bauble button for Ghostclaw's Talisman.</li></ul><p>Added!  It should be there now.</p><ul><li>Another typo in dialog on Erus before quest - "and the notes he has seems to explicitly" - should just be "seem".</li></ul><p>Fixed!</p><ul><li>It seems a bit odd having 2 dialogs with you asking the same question twice in a row. First you ask (and I'm paraphasing) "is he looking to take possession of the object?" and you're told "not just yet" and you immediately ask again "are you planning to take it?" My toon isn't that low on intelligence! I understood the first time. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></li></ul><p>Fixed - I changed the first response to a different question rather than asking the same thing twice.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><ul><li>No map POI for Taith McJarun - and I don't know where the location described is!</li></ul><p>Fixed.</p><ul><li>No map POI for Rikantus.</li></ul><p>Fixed.</p><ul><li>No quest book/feather returning to NPC after Rikantus. Or map POI.</li></ul><p>Fixed and fixed.</p><ul><li>When she goes a bit possessed and talks about the raven, I see the NPC fall down., Then stand up again and there's dialogue, then she falls down again.</li><li>Also in the stuff for 6. above, you don't get time to read and click on the dialogue between death states. It continues straight through.</li></ul><p>Ugh, I'll need to look at that.  It might take some doing to fix.</p><ul><li>First quest step when completed has name given without apostrophe as Erus Dalviv instead of Dal'viv.</li></ul><p>Fixed!</p><ul><li>(Qeynos) At the point Erus says he sees a bird behind you, well I don't see one. Which is rather confusing. It doesn't appear until you click a later dialogue step.</li></ul><p>It's because of how the bird is spawned.  I'd rather not spawn him too early, but I might have the node before pop him in.</p><p>I also added a blue sparkly in front of the entrance to the Ring, so it's more obvious where you need to go after talking to Ghostclaw.</p><p>Thanks for all the feedback, and I hope you guys are enjoying the quest!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Hordolin Awanagin]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><ul><li>The raven in Freeport drops under the world and is unfollowable past that point. It even disappears from track.</li></ul><p>Err, I wasn't able to reproduce this one.  I'll take another look at it when I get a chance.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>At the point where it starts going downhill, both Breu and I saw this. It just suddenly dives straight down under terrain and despawned. Might be fixed now but I don't have another toon yet to test with. buffer on beta pls?</p>

[Kinya]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><ul><li>(Qeynos) At the point Erus says he sees a bird behind you, well I don't see one. Which is rather confusing. It doesn't appear until you click a later dialogue step.</li></ul><p>It's because of how the bird is spawned.  I'd rather not spawn him too early, but I might have the node before pop him in.</p></blockquote><p>Not sure if those changes went to Beta already, but I am not able to see raven. I run around, jump, hail everyone, inspected trees and I even /dance and still... I can't see Raven <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Cronyn]

<p><cite>Kinya@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><ul><li>(Qeynos) At the point Erus says he sees a bird behind you, well I don't see one. Which is rather confusing. It doesn't appear until you click a later dialogue step.</li></ul><p>It's because of how the bird is spawned.  I'd rather not spawn him too early, but I might have the node before pop him in.</p></blockquote><p>Not sure if those changes went to Beta already, but I am not able to see raven. I run around, jump, hail everyone, inspected trees and I even /dance and still... I can't see Raven <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Okay, trying to post again, since the forums were all like, "LOLNO" when I just tried to post a response.</p><p>So, I don't know if the changes will be up today.  I *think* they will, but I don't know if the fixes made the test build.  I'll verify in a bit and let you guys know.</p><p>And were you in Freeport when the raven went AWOL?  Because it seems like the raven doesn't like Freeport much.  I'm going to take a look at him today and see if I can figure out what his major malfunction is.</p>

[ttobey]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Heya! So, sorry about the not-being-able-to-zone thing. However, that's intentional.</p><p>So, our art department was awesome enough to make a tailored zone for me for that step of the quest. It looks awesome!! Also, it has no floor right now. Unfortunately, if I let you in there now, this would happen:</p><p><img src="http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j442/cronyn2/omgnofloor.jpg" width="996" height="346" /></p><p>You can see how this might be "bad".</p><p>The art is fixed for me now, though - so it should be up the next time art gets pushed up to you guys (which I am told should be tomorrow).  This will make your adventure much less... fall-y.</p><p>Anyway, if you have any other feedback, let me know!  And thanks for checking out the quest!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Is that a slice of pizza stuck to his face?</p>

[Cronyn]

<p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Is that a slice of pizza stuck to his face?</p></blockquote><p>OMG NO.</p><p>But now I can't see anything else.</p><p><img src="http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j442/cronyn2/dwarveslovepizza.jpg" width="347" height="344" /></p>

[Kaitheel]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Is that a slice of pizza stuck to his face?</p></blockquote><p>OMG NO.</p><p>But now I can't see anything else.</p><p><img src="http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j442/cronyn2/dwarveslovepizza.jpg" width="347" height="344" /></p></blockquote><p>Really?  You're going to trust pizza made by goblins?!</p><p>"The live hornets make the crust extra fizzy!"</p><p>~Kaitheel</p>

[Kinya]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kinya@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><ul><li>(Qeynos) At the point Erus says he sees a bird behind you, well I don't see one. Which is rather confusing. It doesn't appear until you click a later dialogue step.</li></ul><p>It's because of how the bird is spawned.  I'd rather not spawn him too early, but I might have the node before pop him in.</p></blockquote><p>Not sure if those changes went to Beta already, but I am not able to see raven. I run around, jump, hail everyone, inspected trees and I even /dance and still... I can't see Raven <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Okay, trying to post again, since the forums were all like, "LOLNO" when I just tried to post a response.</p><p>So, I don't know if the changes will be up today.  I *think* they will, but I don't know if the fixes made the test build.  I'll verify in a bit and let you guys know.</p><p>And were you in Freeport when the raven went AWOL?  Because it seems like the raven doesn't like Freeport much.  I'm going to take a look at him today and see if I can figure out what his major malfunction is.</p></blockquote><p>Sorry, I forgot to write that I was in Qeynos. I will try once again to find this raven tomorrow.</p>

[Kuulei]

<p>I was unable to zone into the Karana Ring instance, I kept getting 'zone unavailable'</p><p>I take it that its not 'in' yet until the fixes are done for the previous steps?</p>

[Cronyn]

<p><cite>Kuulei wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was unable to zone into the Karana Ring instance, I kept getting 'zone unavailable'</p><p>I take it that its not 'in' yet until the fixes are done for the previous steps?</p></blockquote><p>Aye, I just checked, and Test isn't updated yet with my changes.  I believe it's actually coming down tonight for the update.</p>

[Cronyn]

<p><cite>Hordolin Awanagin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The raven in Freeport drops under the world and is unfollowable past that point. It even disappears from track.</p><p></p></blockquote><p>Hordolin!  Good news!  I was able to verify this on our internal play server!</p><p>Hordolin!  Bad news!  I was able to verify this on our internal play server!</p><p>Well, at least I can start taking a look at it.  Thanks for the heads up.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Lizabethan]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Is that a slice of pizza stuck to his face?</p></blockquote><p>OMG NO.</p><p>But now I can't see anything else.</p><p><img src="http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j442/cronyn2/dwarveslovepizza.jpg" width="347" height="344" /></p></blockquote><p>Requesting a stickied thread for all of Cronyn's MS Paint doodles.</p>

[ttobey]

<p>You guys are missing the clues he is giving you in his clouds.</p>

[Eshaac]

<p><cite>Kuulei wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I was unable to zone into the Karana Ring instance, I kept getting 'zone unavailable'</p><p>I take it that its not 'in' yet until the fixes are done for the previous steps?</p></blockquote><p>yep, is unavail to me as well,..</p><p>Eshaac</p>

[Hordolin Awanagin]

<p><cite>ttobey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You guys are missing the clues he is giving you in his clouds.</p></blockquote><p>AHA! I found it! If you take every 4th and 9th pixel and xor them then convert it to ascii there is a hidden message in each cloud!!</p><p>The hidden message is: Every 5th Pizza free!</p>

[Hordolin Awanagin]

<p>Erm. Hate to pick nits but... the buffer on beta only goes to 90. Can't test prelude unless he goes to 92.</p>

[Cronyn]

<p><cite>Hordolin Awanagin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Erm. Hate to pick nits but... the buffer on beta only goes to 90. Can't test prelude unless he goes to 92.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, no, you're right.  We discussed this just today.</p><p>So yeah, we need to buff the buffer.  Thanks for the heads up, though!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[BigSting23]

<p>Impossible to collect the 6 essences since the mob has to be under 50% to use the item, and I am 1 shotting everything in there. need to bump the HP up. Hitting for 20k and killing it.</p>

[BigSting23]

<p>Ok, not Impossible, but I had to pull out a level 1 dmg spell to pull it off.</p>

[Eshaac]

<p>Not impossible at all.  I did it easily by unequipping my weapons on my 92 brig.</p><p>Now I'm just waiting to be contacted by "the Duality himself.  Erus Dal'viv/a says to you, "Wait for his summons.  I doubt it will be too long, as we will need to work quickly.".</p><p>Eshaac</p>

[BigSting23]

<p>Yea, thats why I posted the 2nd comment about using a level 1 spell. Still buggy.</p>

[Cronyn]

<p>I'll bump up their HPs a bit, but honestly, some of you are still going to faceroll them.  I mean, there's no accounting for player AWESOME.</p><p>Anyway, they are tougher now.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Soresha]

<p>Finishing the quest...</p><p>1. The zone artwork is COOL! Ok sure it's the same zone reused but it's got some "oh wow" factor when you see this one. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p> <p>2. The strange spirit doesn't make any sound when it spawns. This seemed a bit odd. I've got combat sounds etc and this awesome setting, and this named spirit appears on me... but he's silent.</p> <p>3. The named spirit is also too low HP I think - this fury has Withered Lands quested gear and he was nearly one-shotted. Not a very rewarding fight, in the sense of having achieved something.</p> <p>4. The spirit did something strange. He was almost at zero HP (I think maybe 2-3% above?), he fell down and I thought he was dead. Then he got back up and continued. One more hit and he died properly. It was like: "huh? what happened?"</p> <p>5. I looked at the amulet item before returning to Ghostclaw. Under effects it says "This essence is already being absorbed".  This doesn't make any sense to me, don't know what it's supposed to mean.</p> <p>6. Typo in dialogue with Ghostclaw - "Although the votrex pulls energy in" - should be "vortex".</p> <p>7. The raven is still spawning on top of the player at this point.</p> <p>8. Yay ghost bird returns! Typos in dialogue with Ravinus though:"at an ever encreasing rate"twice it says "Druid rings" - not sure if that should be capitalised?"You will need to go To Ethernere"</p> <p>9. Ravinus despawned as I clicked the penultimate dialogue option. I didn't get a chance to read the last node or click the last response.</p> <p>10. Can you please add to the last quest step to return to Erus "in Qeynos at the Concordium Tower"? I'm assuming here's there, but the guy does move around Norrath quite a bit!</p> <p>11. And no POI for returning to Erus either.</p> <p>12. This is good stuff! I enjoyed it. I'm not really familiar with the Ethernere but I picked up enough to figure out it's EQ2 heaven/crossing over/place for dead people.</p> <p>13. I'm assuming Grey Wastes is just another name for the Ethernere? That's not explained but the term is used a few times,</p> <p>14. Erus despawns too early, when I click on "What should I do in the meantime?" You don't see him say his final response. Actually why should he despawn at all? He's only visible at this location if you're on this specific quest then?</p> <p>15. Quest summary at the end says "spirits from Norrath were being pulled .." Shouldn't that be "are" since it's still ongoing? The rest of it is in present tense.</p> <p>16. The Ghostclaw's Talisman isn't removed when you return to Ghostclaw and I still have it after completing the quest.</p> <p>Time to run the evil fury through the Freeport side now... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[shadowscale]

<p>few issues i see.</p><p>1. the chelsith stone is mentioned, but nothing about how i currently have it hanging on a wall in my house, everyone acts as if its missing still.</p><p>2 <span >had met <span >Ravinus during the beastlord intro event, yet cant claim to reconise him as being second meating.</span></span></p>

[Eshaac]

<p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Finishing the quest...</p><p>1. The zone artwork is COOL! Ok sure it's the same zone reused but it's got some "oh wow" factor when you see this one. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p><p>2. The strange spirit doesn't make any sound when it spawns. This seemed a bit odd. I've got combat sounds etc and this awesome setting, and this named spirit appears on me... but he's silent.</p><p>3. The named spirit is also too low HP I think - this fury has Withered Lands quested gear and he was nearly one-shotted. Not a very rewarding fight, in the sense of having achieved something.</p><p>4. The spirit did something strange. He was almost at zero HP (I think maybe 2-3% above?), he fell down and I thought he was dead. Then he got back up and continued. One more hit and he died properly. It was like: "huh? what happened?"</p><p>5. I looked at the amulet item before returning to Ghostclaw. Under effects it says "This essence is already being absorbed".  This doesn't make any sense to me, don't know what it's supposed to mean.</p><p>6. Typo in dialogue with Ghostclaw - "Although the votrex pulls energy in" - should be "vortex".</p><p>7. The raven is still spawning on top of the player at this point.</p><p>8. Yay ghost bird returns! Typos in dialogue with Ravinus though:"at an ever encreasing rate"twice it says "Druid rings" - not sure if that should be capitalised?"You will need to go To Ethernere"</p><p>9. Ravinus despawned as I clicked the penultimate dialogue option. I didn't get a chance to read the last node or click the last response.</p><p>10. Can you please add to the last quest step to return to Erus "in Qeynos at the Concordium Tower"? I'm assuming here's there, but the guy does move around Norrath quite a bit!</p><p>11. And no POI for returning to Erus either.</p><p>12. This is good stuff! I enjoyed it. I'm not really familiar with the Ethernere but I picked up enough to figure out it's EQ2 heaven/crossing over/place for dead people.</p><p>13. I'm assuming Grey Wastes is just another name for the Ethernere? That's not explained but the term is used a few times,</p><p>14. Erus despawns too early, when I click on "What should I do in the meantime?" You don't see him say his final response. Actually why should he despawn at all? He's only visible at this location if you're on this specific quest then?</p><p>15. Quest summary at the end says "spirits from Norrath were being pulled .." Shouldn't that be "are" since it's still ongoing? The rest of it is in present tense.</p><p>16. The Ghostclaw's Talisman isn't removed when you return to Ghostclaw and I still have it after completing the quest.</p><p>Time to run the evil fury through the Freeport side now... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>4. He did not do this for me.  I just killed him and he despawned poof no trace at all.</p><p>5.  "This essence is already being absorbed"  for me this was actually on the amulet from the git-go.  I hovered over it as soon as I got it and that is what it said.</p><p>7. yep same for me..</p><p>9.  Yes found it way to fast as was unable to read it, however I did read it as it was there in my chat window.  But He does despawn way to fast.</p><p> I did find this quest to be very easy to do though it was nice.  Can't wait for summons from the "Duality" to come.</p><p>Eshaac</p>

[Soresha]

<p><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>2 <span>had met <span>Ravinus during the beastlord intro event, yet cant claim to reconise him as being second meating.</span></span></p></blockquote><p>I thought this initially when I read it too, but it depends if you're good or evil. If I've got it the right way around, the evils met Ravinus whilst the goodies met Ilfanul.</p><p>Also because the beastlord prelude was only ingame for a short period of time, going forwards a lot of people hitting this sig line won't have done that piece of content, and will need the explanation on who this ghost bird NPC is.</p><p>That was my thinking anyway.</p>

[Hordolin Awanagin]

<div><p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>3. The named spirit is also too low HP I think - this fury has Withered Lands quested gear and he was nearly one-shotted. Not a very rewarding fight, in the sense of having achieved something.</p><p>4. The spirit did something strange. He was almost at zero HP (I think maybe 2-3% above?), he fell down and I thought he was dead. Then he got back up and continued. One more hit and he died properly. It was like: "huh? what happened?"</p><p>7. The raven is still spawning on top of the player at this point.</p><p>9. Ravinus despawned as I clicked the penultimate dialogue option. I didn't get a chance to read the last node or click the last response.</p><p>14. Erus despawns too early, when I click on "What should I do in the meantime?" You don't see him say his final response. Actually why should he despawn at all? He's only visible at this location if you're on this specific quest then?</p><p>16. The Ghostclaw's Talisman isn't removed when you return to Ghostclaw and I still have it after completing the quest.</p></blockquote></div><div></div><div>Freeport:</div><div>3. Agree. one hit took him to nothing</div><div>4. Yep. Saw this too</div><div>7.9.14. - Yep. minor annoying points.</div><div>16. The dialogue tells you the talisman can protect you. Keep yours. This is why you get to keep it.</div><div>EDIT:Just did it again and-</div><div>9 and 14. It doesn't wait for you to click. It just closes the dialogue. That's why it goes by so quick. It presents the text and a bubble for you to click but you never get to click it.</div>

[Cronyn]

<p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>2 <span>had met <span>Ravinus during the beastlord intro event, yet cant claim to reconise him as being second meating.</span></span></p></blockquote><p>I thought this initially when I read it too, but it depends if you're good or evil. If I've got it the right way around, the evils met Ravinus whilst the goodies met Ilfanul.</p><p>Also because the beastlord prelude was only ingame for a short period of time, going forwards a lot of people hitting this sig line won't have done that piece of content, and will need the explanation on who this ghost bird NPC is.</p><p>That was my thinking anyway.</p></blockquote><p>Ummm actually...</p><p>If you're evil and did the Prelude, he should recognize you.  And in fact, there's dialog in place to mention that fact.</p><p>If anyone is evil and remembers doing the Beastlord prelude, can you verify that Ravinus doesn't have to explain who he is?  It's working for me here, so I want to make sure you guys can see it.</p>

[shadowscale]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>2 <span>had met <span>Ravinus during the beastlord intro event, yet cant claim to reconise him as being second meating.</span></span></p></blockquote><p>I thought this initially when I read it too, but it depends if you're good or evil. If I've got it the right way around, the evils met Ravinus whilst the goodies met Ilfanul.</p><p>Also because the beastlord prelude was only ingame for a short period of time, going forwards a lot of people hitting this sig line won't have done that piece of content, and will need the explanation on who this ghost bird NPC is.</p><p>That was my thinking anyway.</p></blockquote><p>Ummm actually...</p><p>If you're evil and did the Prelude, he should recognize you.  And in fact, there's dialog in place to mention that fact.</p><p>If anyone is evil and remembers doing the Beastlord prelude, can you verify that Ravinus doesn't have to explain who he is?  It's working for me here, so I want to make sure you guys can see it.</p></blockquote><p>hm.. perhaps im the one who missed something this time, but i swear i saw some dialog choice as if dident know who it was. any plans for the chelsith stone hanging on my wall by the way?</p>

[Cronyn]

<p><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><p>hm.. perhaps im the one who missed something this time, but i swear i saw some dialog choice as if dident know who it was. any plans for the chelsith stone hanging on my wall by the way?</p></blockquote><p>Actually nope!  Not your fault.  After your post I looked and found out why I can see it and you can't.  I've submitted the fix, so he'll recognize you properly on Live.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>And for the stone - they aren't looking for the Stone... they're looking for a piece of the stone they suspect is missing.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Cuora]

<p><strong>I did the Beastlord prelude with Chiloh (evil) and Ravinus did recognize me after I spoke with Ghostclaw.  The Raven spawned normally and lead me to Ravinus in TS without getting lost.  I could not remember where Erus was so I first went to Antonica near Rikantus and he was not there and remembered Freeport and he was outside of the Academy of Arcane Sciences in N. Freeport.  Finished the quest and waiting for the next contact <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.  I enjoyed this one.</strong></p>

[shadowscale]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><p>hm.. perhaps im the one who missed something this time, but i swear i saw some dialog choice as if dident know who it was. any plans for the chelsith stone hanging on my wall by the way?</p></blockquote><p>Actually nope!  Not your fault.  After your post I looked and found out why I can see it and you can't.  I've submitted the fix, so he'll recognize you properly on Live.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>And for the stone - they aren't looking for the Stone... they're looking for a piece of the stone they suspect is missing.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>ah ok, just have to remember that some people have the rest of the stone when the missing peice is found when putting them together. if i remember corectly the chelsith stone does fit into a slot of the calander itself.</p><p>and just to bring it up again... will the duality ever remember the parts of dartain's memory of working on the necro mythical?</p>

[NiamiDenMother]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'll bump up their HPs a bit, but honestly, some of you are still going to faceroll them.  I mean, there's no accounting for player AWESOME.</p><p>Anyway, they are tougher now.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Heh, yeah, I had to kill off my warder and unequip both weapons on my beastlord, and still managed to kill enough off that I had to zone out and back in to collect from enough mobs.  Rawr!</p>

[NiamiDenMother]

<p>Typo:  After trapping essences in the amulet and zoning back into TS to speak with Ghostclaw, he says:  "This is not unexpected. Although the votrex pulls energy in ..."    </p><p>votrex should be vortex</p><p>Typo: When speaking to Ravinus, at one point he/she says: "No. If you were to attempt to use that Druid rings to cross into the Ethernere ..."</p><p>"that Druid rings" should either be "that Druid ring" (singular) or "those druid rings" (plural), not half and half.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[ArtemisClyde]

<p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>5. I looked at the amulet item before returning to Ghostclaw. Under effects it says "This essence is already being absorbed".  This doesn't make any sense to me, don't know what it's supposed to mean.</p><p>6. Typo in dialogue with Ghostclaw - "Although the votrex pulls energy in" - should be "vortex".</p><p>7. The raven is still spawning on top of the player at this point.</p><p>8. Yay ghost bird returns! Typos in dialogue with Ravinus though:"at an ever encreasing rate"twice it says "Druid rings" - not sure if that should be capitalised?"You will need to go To Ethernere"</p><p>9. Ravinus despawned as I clicked the penultimate dialogue option. I didn't get a chance to read the last node or click the last response.</p><p>10. Can you please add to the last quest step to return to Erus "in Qeynos at the Concordium Tower"? I'm assuming here's there, but the guy does move around Norrath quite a bit!</p><p>11. And no POI for returning to Erus either.</p><p>12. This is good stuff! I enjoyed it. I'm not really familiar with the Ethernere but I picked up enough to figure out it's EQ2 heaven/crossing over/place for dead people.</p><p>13. I'm assuming Grey Wastes is just another name for the Ethernere? That's not explained but the term is used a few times,</p><p>14. Erus despawns too early, when I click on "What should I do in the meantime?" You don't see him say his final response. Actually why should he despawn at all? He's only visible at this location if you're on this specific quest then?</p><p>15. Quest summary at the end says "spirits from Norrath were being pulled .." Shouldn't that be "are" since it's still ongoing? The rest of it is in present tense.</p><p>16. The Ghostclaw's Talisman isn't removed when you return to Ghostclaw and I still have it after completing the quest.</p><p>Time to run the evil fury through the Freeport side now... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>5- agree, this description don't make much sense and might mislead people</p><p>6- yes, i caught this typo as well, should be vortex, not votrex(dialogue with ghostclaw after finishing instance)</p><p>8- yes, should be increasing, not "encreasing" (ravinus)   ADD: further in dialogue with Ravinus, "began" would sound better then "begun" "I do not know, but I know that the spiritual collapse that has befallen your world begun there."</p><p>16- oh and PLEASE do remove the quest talisman from inventory, the reward talisman is the actual gear representation of it, no need for it anymore! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Also, i agree with niami, it needs to be "If you were to attempt to use that Druid Rings" just drop the S.  Druid Ring. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p><p>And i came to the same conclusion everyone else did: the souls need a major bump up. I was freshly buffed in tofs x2 gear, and most players that will play this, i think will be in Skyshrine faction gear or better. Yet i still had to take off both my weapons, and i still one shotted half the mobs with bare fists. They need to be maybe double the hp they have now, at least.  and maybe normal strength instead of 1 down arrow. Make them as tough as a normal dov iceclad crab or something...these pour weak souls! *sniffle*</p><p>And i had to exit and reenter the zone 2-3 times to get enough souls, even with merc and bl pet backed off and no weapons on me. theres tons of empty area in this instance, maybe you could double the number of souls? =)</p>

[Soresha]

<p>Ok I just ran the evil side on beta server.</p><p>1. I like the change in initial dialogue on Erus, conversation flows nicelys now.</p><p>2. I never said before, THANK YOU for not sending us off to search a library again, but coming up with an alternative route. And even making a bit of a  joke about it.</p><p>3. No POI for returning to Erus in Freeport.</p><p>4. Raven appears ok at Erus in Freeport and flies to Ghostclaw fine now.</p><p>5. I see the dialogue on Ghostclaw outside the zone-in varies for goodies and evils. And as an evil you say that you remember Ravinus - so yeah I've changed my mind on this one. Could you split the dialogue on Ravinus to greet him as if you know him and skip the explanation sentence of who he is?</p><p>6. I'm still having a REALLY hard time with the essences dying too easily. This fury is better geared, and even the weakest of my fury's spells will one-shot them. Even melee auto-attack can one-shot them. Or the 1st hit won't get below 50% then the 2nd hit kills them.</p><p>Please increase their hp more! This is just painful to do, failing on half the mobs and needing to zone out and back in to a 2nd instance. You can't do the quest unless you're 92 anyway so scaling isn't an issue.</p><p>7. The animations with the strange spirit dying look much better now.</p><p>8. The raven is still spawning on top of the player the 2nd time - maybe some fixes haven't been pushed out?</p><p>Ugh ok the typos as still there... so your fixes wenen't patched to beta last night. So I guess some of the above is maybe already fixed!</p>

[Hordolin Awanagin]

<p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>6. I'm still having a REALLY hard time with the essences dying too easily. This fury is better geared, and even the weakest of my fury's spells will one-shot them. Even melee auto-attack can one-shot them. Or the 1st hit won't get below 50% then the 2nd hit kills them.</p><p>Please increase their hp more! This is just painful to do, failing on half the mobs and needing to zone out and back in to a 2nd instance. You can't do the quest unless you're 92 anyway so scaling isn't an issue.</p></blockquote><p>Agree. I just did again on Qeynos side with my guardian. I ended up having to go buy a level 20 weapon to come back and do it. If it's 92 required to do it they should be level 92 mobs with comparable hit points.</p>

[Eshaac]

<p><cite>Hordolin Awanagin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Soresha wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>6. I'm still having a REALLY hard time with the essences dying too easily. This fury is better geared, and even the weakest of my fury's spells will one-shot them. Even melee auto-attack can one-shot them. Or the 1st hit won't get below 50% then the 2nd hit kills them.</p><p>Please increase their hp more! This is just painful to do, failing on half the mobs and needing to zone out and back in to a 2nd instance. You can't do the quest unless you're 92 anyway so scaling isn't an issue.</p></blockquote><p>Agree. I just did again on Qeynos side with my guardian. I ended up having to go buy a level 20 weapon to come back and do it. If it's 92 required to do it they should be level 92 mobs with comparable hit points.</p></blockquote><p>Yep, same here.  Did it with me Ranger with "no" weapons equipped and had to be very careful.  Even the end mob I killed with no weapons equipped..   They need lots of increasing HP's.</p><p>Eshaac</p>

[Aneova]

<p>Please more HP on the Wracked Souls, I was still killing them to fast with a level 1 master on my fury.</p><p>after i managed to get the souls, the update after needs more too.... that was... silly I'm not that awesome to look at a mob and have it die...and when i say it died, it was dead so fast it didn't turn into a corpse for nearly a 10 count just kept repeating it's run towards me and looped for a while.</p><p>Bauble from the quest is also not removed from your inventory on completion even though you give it to Ghostclaw.</p>

[Falandir]

I bugged this yesterday but thought would post here. After Talking to Ghost claw after doing the Ring thing the raven flashed and dissapeared. I still cant find him.

[Calthine]

<p><cite>NiamiDenMother wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'll bump up their HPs a bit, but honestly, some of you are still going to faceroll them.  I mean, there's no accounting for player AWESOME.</p><p>Anyway, they are tougher now.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Heh, yeah, I had to kill off my warder and unequip both weapons on my beastlord, and still managed to kill enough off that I had to zone out and back in to collect from enough mobs.  Rawr!</p></blockquote><p>I'm not sure when the next update is due, but as of 1:30pm Pacific on Saturday these are so easy that all my Necro has to do is look at them and they collapse.  I'm really not exagerating.  I had to use Tier 1 spells and dismiss all my help.</p><p>Edit: On the other hand, the raven worked perfectly.  About the only thing I could really pick with is the character who I ran this on never did any Nek Castle stuff <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  But that's awfuly nit-picky.</p>

[Cronyn]

<p>Yeah, I don't think there was an update yesterday at all, so you guys don't have the changes.  I bumped up the HPs on both the essences and the enforcer, so they should be able to take more hits, but reading some of the comments here, I don't think any of those changes are up yet (typos and such have been fixed for a couple of days now).</p><p>Thanks for the reports, though.  Hopefully you guys can see the fixes soon.</p>

[Calthine]

<p><cite>Cronyn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yeah, I don't think there was an update yesterday at all, so you guys don't have the changes.  I bumped up the HPs on both the essences and the enforcer, so they should be able to take more hits, but reading some of the comments here, I don't think any of those changes are up yet (typos and such have been fixed for a couple of days now).</p><p>Thanks for the reports, though.  Hopefully you guys can see the fixes soon.</p></blockquote><p>I was actually thinking that it was an interesting challenge to not do so much damage <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Calthine]

<p>Heh, okay, you can't blow the essences over any more.</p>

[Eshaac]

<p>Yeah, was actually able to fight these Essences and enforcer with weapons equiped and not one hit em... I even got to use me combat arts with my guardian on the enforcer..   The don't do much dmg to you, but now they don't die just by you looking at them. lol.</p><p>Eshaac</p>

[Calthine]

<p><cite>Eshaac wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yeah, was actually able to fight these Essences and enforcer with weapons equiped and not one hit em... I even got to use me combat arts with my guardian on the enforcer..   The don't do much dmg to you, but now they don't die just by you looking at them. lol.</p><p>Eshaac</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, before that patch my Necro's pet sneezed and they melted <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[ArtemisClyde]

looks much better. i was able to keep my weapons on, and even use a combat art or 2 :O , and the ^ guy after didn't fall over too easy neither, but both are easy enough to do even for the poorly geared, i would imagine. The only thing i noticed is i would still say it would sound better if Ravinus would say "began" instead of "begun", it doesn't seem like proper grammar the way he used it. Nice changes though! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Mynda]

<p>I was in a group when I zoned into the Rings of Karana today and we both entered (we expected this to be solo so didn't disband). Since we were already inside we went ahead and started hitting the essences thinking, once again that since we zoned-in as a group we would get a group update, but we didn't.</p><p>Wasn't a real big deal since one of us just zoned back out and we disbanded, but thought I'd post to let you know that this happens.</p>

[Cronyn]

<p>Ah, I know why.</p><p>I'll fix this too, since I'm already looking at an issue with the ravens.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Thanks much!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>