PVP gear worthless compaired to PvE raid gear with procs.

[Dalzhel]

<p>Title says it all, go to the battlegrounds and work hard and get enough tokens to buy a full set of PvP gear its 8175 tokens for everything at level 80 gear. just to have someone that went and killed raid mobs in munzoks, VP, and other t8 raid zones to get the gear from there to run into pvp and be easy mode because the gear tbh is far better than any of the level 80 pvp gear available.</p><p>I thought the point of buying the pvp gear was it was going to be far better than anything PvE had to offer. maybe a boost to the toughness and lethality bring back procs to PvP gear or remove all functionality of all procs on PvE gear in PvP.</p><p>I play on both 30 to 89 and 90 to 92 on 2 diffrent types of characters and tbh my Drunder/PoW raid geared healer stands up better than my fully geared scout with 100% PvP gear.</p>

[Shredderr]

<p>yep and some of the tier 3 pvp gear has lesser stats than the tier 2 to make matters worse, at least for monks that is</p>

[Balrok]

<p>Petition the procs you don't feel should be in PvP or are unfair for raiders.  They are addressing them (disabling them in PvP) top down.  So T8 has been pretty much ignored so far.</p><p>Or go get the items yourself.</p>

[Yimway]

<p>This is only an issue in the lower tier BGs.</p><p>I've not seen a single current tier PVE raid proc that actually works in pvp combat.</p><p>However, all of the older raid content does.  My 85 SK is kitted out in those older raid procs and they pretty much own.</p><p>There are so many of them out there, it would be considerable effort to reclass them all as to not work in pvp combat.  They almost need to flag ALL procs to non-pvp then exclusively create the ones just for pvp.</p><p>Beyond that issue, I think the valuation of toughness or its effectiveness is also set to low.</p>

[Jacquotte]

<p>gear without setbonuses / procs is boring</p><p>also toughness / lethaligy is so ineffective its worthless</p>

[Kimber]

<p>The best gear for T8 PvP is the TSO class sets that can be purchased at the Vintage wares merchant.  The cost is considerable compaired to the rest of the PvP gear avail to those at lv 80 but its the best there is.  It is also the gear that was only avail to players on PvP servers that were PvP'ing before BG's and cause a bit of a stink when BG's came out due to it being not avai to those not on PvP servers.</p>

[Daalilama]

<p><cite>Upib@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Title says it all, go to the battlegrounds and work hard and get enough tokens to buy a full set of PvP gear its 8175 tokens for everything at level 80 gear. just to have someone that went and killed raid mobs in munzoks, VP, and other t8 raid zones to get the gear from there to run into pvp and be easy mode because the gear tbh is far better than any of the level 80 pvp gear available.</p><p><strong>I thought the point of buying the pvp gear was it was going to be far better than anything PvE had to offer. maybe a boost to the toughness and lethality bring back procs to PvP gear or remove all functionality of all procs on PvE gear in PvP.</strong></p><p>I play on both 30 to 89 and 90 to 92 on 2 diffrent types of characters and tbh my Drunder/PoW raid geared healer stands up better than my fully geared scout with 100% PvP gear.</p></blockquote><p>Procs have never and will never be a problem in pvp this is plain ole smoke and mirrors its was the inflaited stats/unchecked set bonus stats etc.</p>