Linked accounts please

[Davngr1]

<p> it's been quite a while since you offerd this as an option, please make it so.</p><p>  players with multiple accounts are making you more money and deserve the extra effort imo maybe even charge a one time fee or only offer it to gold members.</p>

[CoLD MeTaL]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> it's been quite a while since you offerd this as an option, please make it so.</p><p>  players with multiple accounts are making you more money and deserve the extra effort imo maybe even charge a one time fee or only offer it to gold members.</p></blockquote><p>I would love for them to link my accounts and let me log on 'any 2' of them or whatever.  Also connected to fix 'heirloom' stuff.</p><p>Since its free 2 play it shouldn't matter how many I log in and play at a time.</p>

[Cloudrat]

<p>This would be a wonderful idea<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Although, it would result is a need for a new character select screen I would think. I have a horrible time as it is scrolling through the multitude of characters on my list already hehe. Adding all the other toons from my second account gives me nightmares hehe.</p>

[Geothe]

<p>I doubt that they will ever get around to doing something like this sadly, but yes, it would be really nice.</p><p>I'd like to see multiple accounts changed into allowed simultanious characters logged in from a pooled character list.</p><p>ie. account A has 6 toons, account B as 8 toons.Change it to your account has 14 toons and you can log in any 2 of them at the same time.But I have a feeling that would take a log of back end codiing changes, and effort i highly doubt SoE would be willing to put into it.In addition, they would have to rather heavily restrict how accounts are linked, probably based on only subs payed with recurring billing from the same Credit Card or something like that to limit possible exploiting.</p>

[Davngr1]

<p>yea, i can see how linking 500 silver accounts would be bad so this would have to be gold only probably but tbh just being able to exchange heirloom with link accounts would be enough.   being able camp between them would be good as well but i'll settle for just being able to group on my healer and not have to put the group/raid on hold so i can log in my tank account and vise versa</p>

[Xianthia]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>yea, i can see how linking 500 silver accounts would be bad so this would have to be gold only probably but tbh <strong>just being able to exchange heirloom with link accounts would be enough</strong>.   being able camp between them would be good as well but i'll settle for just being able to group on my healer and not have to put the group/raid on hold so i can log in my tank account and vise versa</p></blockquote><p>Being able to trade among my own toons heirloom items would really go a long way for me.  It's long over due.  Anything else would be a bonus, but at the very least being able to trade items to alts would be super.</p>

[Katine]

<p>I would love this option for the ability to trade heirloom items between accounts.  Both of my accounts are very old, going back to EQ1.  </p><p>I don't mind so much the logging in times on the second account, since I usually do that while I'm doing something meanial on the first account (like flying around) but the trading of heirloom items - WOW!  I would LOVE that option.  It's definitely long overdue and would be a nice reward to those who pay the extra money to SoE with two accounts rather than just buying an extra character slot.</p>

[Yimway]

<p>I have already stopped paying / subbing for any of my additional accounts for the reason of the missing account linking.</p><p>The final nail was the faction issues resulting, I could get around everything else.</p>

[Zehl_Ice-Fire]

<p>I would also like to link my 3 accounts. Heirloom is a big frustrating joke to me since they are all on different accounts.</p>

[SpineDoc]

<p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have already stopped paying / subbing for any of my additional accounts for the reason of the missing account linking.</p><p>The final nail was the faction issues resulting, I could get around everything else.</p></blockquote><p>Yep, I only pay a single account and my others go unused as well.  I'd love to see account linking and doubt I'd ever reactivate my other accounts unless this was finally implemented.</p>

[Tigress]

<p><cite>Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I would also like to link my 3 accounts. Heirloom is a big frustrating joke to me since they are all on different accounts.</p></blockquote><p>i agree.  i'd love to be able to log in two characters on the same acct but that's more of a wishful desire.  the heirloom tag, i despise.  they need to link accts that belong to the same household so the heirloom stuff can be traded.</p>

[Avirodar]

<p>I am in full support of account linking.At the current time, I do not feel like searching through vast quantities of old posts, but we were told it is something on the cards. At this point in time, it is long overdue that SOE dealt such a card to paying (gold) customers who are maintaining more than 1 account.</p>

[Khurghan]

<p>Pretty sure a red name posted a while back that they won't link accounts because of the extra money gained for people paying to mule between their accounts.</p>

[gamecock0118]

<p><cite>Khurghan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Pretty sure a red name posted a while back that they won't link accounts because of the extra money gained for people paying to mule between their accounts.</p></blockquote><p>Here's an idea: Allow people to pay double for the ability to log in 2 characters on the same account.  It will let us get around the HEIRLOOM issue and everyone pays/makes the same amount of money.  SOE will even make more money with the character xfers that would follow.</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>Khurghan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Pretty sure a red name posted a while back that they won't link accounts because of the extra money gained for people paying to mule between their accounts.</p></blockquote><p>No, they never said that.  If they even felt that way, they never would say that.</p><p>They did say its something they want to do, but it involves integration and changes outside of the EQ2 team to get this done.  So they couldn't / wouldn't comment on when it would be feasible.</p><p>SoE absolutely recognizes the easier it is for you to play and enjoy multiple subs, the better it is for their bottom line.  They don't want to discourage players from doing this.</p><p>If you think about it, they've done nothing willfully to discourage it, just some of the features they've added (like hierloom) adds more benefit to having only one account.</p>

[Davngr1]

<p>i would gladly pay a premium if money is the problem so i doubt it's that.     this really needs some attention.  maybe a dev could give the community a heads up of where they stand on this right now?</p>

[gamecock0118]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>i would gladly pay a premium</p></blockquote><p>Agreed.  This is why I'm somewhat surprised that it isn't getting any attention.  It is one of the few things people would pay a premium for without a huge outcry.</p>

[feldon30]

<p><cite>Khurghan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Pretty sure a red name posted a while back that they won't link accounts because of the extra money gained for people paying to mule between their accounts.</p></blockquote><p>Please don't invent dev quotes.</p>

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[Levatino]

<p><cite>Tigress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zehl_Ice-Fire wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I would also like to link my 3 accounts. Heirloom is a big frustrating joke to me since they are all on different accounts.</p></blockquote><p>i agree.  i'd love to be able to log in two characters on the same acct but that's more of a wishful desire.  the heirloom tag, i despise.  they need to link accts that belong to the same household so the heirloom stuff can be traded.</p></blockquote><p>easiest solution? let them lose the heirloom and just make all items tradeable again</p>

[feldon30]

<p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p>

[gamecock0118]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p></blockquote><p>Definitely like the idea of trading HEIRLOOM for a fee.  I personally like attuning as it is now; it should be very expensive if you were allowed to unattune to sell.</p>

[Geothe]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p></blockquote><p>I'd rather it all be sellable on the broker with a mandatory, un-avoidable broker fee for the Heirloom items (like 15%).</p><p>It will make the broker actually useful again to find gear of all levels, as well as remove a TON of plat from the economy.</p>

[Hogatha]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p></blockquote><p>I think this is a great idea.  I also think that all no-trade mounts and LON items should be Heirloom.  There are many LON items that I no longer use on one character but would  love to transfer to another, alas the no-trade or already attuned tag makes them useless/stored in bank only.</p>

[akin99]

<p>Linked accounts would be awesome.</p><p>Even better if for an increased fee we could log in more than 1 charcter per account. I would happily pay the same amount I pay for 3 accounts if you would let me log into 3 toons on one account.</p><p>Sony gets the same money doesnt have to worry about linked accounts and I can still 3 box all I want.</p>

[kdmorse]

<p><cite>akin99 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Linked accounts would be awesome.</p><p>Even better if for an increased fee we could log in more than 1 charcter per account. I would happily pay the same amount I pay for 3 accounts if you would let me log into 3 toons on one account.</p><p>Sony gets the same money doesnt have to worry about linked accounts and I can still 3 box all I want.</p></blockquote><p>That would be great, but is far less likely to happen than even linked accounts.  It would be a nice initial money maker, as people spend to consolidate their toons on one account.  But it get's sticky at expansion time.  (moot if we never make it to another "expansion").</p><p>But more importantly, linked accounts only required an informational change at the platform team side.  They need to be able to figure out what accounts are linked, and pass that information to the game.</p><p>Multiple concurrent logins would require dramatic changes to the login, authentication, and session management functions on the platform side.  Some fundamental assumptions will have to be changed throughout both the platform code, and the game client.  No way are they going to start down this path, for this game, this late in it's life.</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Ynnek@Kithicor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>akin99 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Linked accounts would be awesome.</p><p>Even better if for an increased fee we could log in more than 1 charcter per account. I would happily pay the same amount I pay for 3 accounts if you would let me log into 3 toons on one account.</p><p>Sony gets the same money doesnt have to worry about linked accounts and I can still 3 box all I want.</p></blockquote><p>That would be great, but is far less likely to happen than even linked accounts.  It would be a nice initial money maker, as people spend to consolidate their toons on one account.  But it get's sticky at expansion time.  (moot if we never make it to another "expansion").</p><p>But more importantly, linked accounts only required an informational change at the platform team side.  They need to be able to figure out what accounts are linked, and pass that information to the game.</p><p>Multiple concurrent logins would require dramatic changes to the login, authentication, and session management functions on the platform side.  Some fundamental assumptions will have to be changed throughout both the platform code, and the game client.  No way are they going to start down this path, for this game, this late in it's life.</p></blockquote><p>probably easier then linked accounts considering accounts are universal across all of the SOE games - Vanguard, LON, EQ1 EQ2, Planet side, free realms.</p><p> The account platform team would have their work cut out for them. At one time multiple concurrent logons did work if you have station access - you could log on to multiple games at the same time - this was a error and it was corrected fairly quickly</p>

[Katz]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p></blockquote><p>That sounds like a reasonable plan.</p>

[gamecock0118]

<p><cite>akin99 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Even better if for an increased fee we could log in more than 1 charcter per account. I would happily pay the same amount I pay for 3 accounts if you would let me log into 3 toons on one account.</p><p>Sony gets the same money doesnt have to worry about linked accounts and I can still 3 box all I want.</p></blockquote><p>This.  There is no reason why they shouldn't do this if it is not impossible logistically.</p>

[Davngr]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p></blockquote><p>as always feldon comes up with all the "win" ideas  =p</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>Davngr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p></blockquote><p>as always feldon comes up with all the "win" ideas  =p</p></blockquote><p>I really wanted to like Feldon's idea here, but let me explain what would happen.</p><p>Some greedy raiding guild like Inner Circle on Unrest would create a web app that listed all of our current excess gear with extermely inflated plat prices.  You'd place an order on the web app, mail the loot officer your payment and within 12 hours you'd have your item.</p><p>A system like this just allows us to create our own marketplace and sell gear with a tax.  You might as well allow these items to just be placed on the broker with a higher commision amount that can't be bypassed.</p>

[Tigress]

<p><cite>Davngr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p></blockquote><p>as always feldon comes up with all the "win" ideas  =p</p></blockquote><p>i dont like this idea.  remember, not everybody has been playing for 8yrs and is sitting on 1,000 plat.  they just need to link accts that are in the same household OR remove the stupid heirloom tag and let items be traded/brokered.</p>

[Davngr]

<p>yea, linked accounts would be best but if they aren't willing to do that then this would be a good.</p><p> anyone with two+ accounts is going to have plat and if not..  well.. </p><p> as far as selling gear goes?  i really dun care what gets sold or not sold or anything else.    my days of righteousness over buying or earning videogame gear are way over.. i just want to log in my free time and do what i do, have fun and not deal with the stress of having to log toon in and out or telling people to wait and invite or having to buy something on my healer that i muted on my assassins account..  just stupid that we don't have this feature yet.</p>

[Tigress]

<p><cite>Davngr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>yea, linked accounts would be best but if they aren't willing to do that then this would be a good.</p><p> anyone with two+ accounts is going to have plat and if not..  well..</p></blockquote><p>that's not true.  not everybody has more than one acct bc they are powerlevelers who want to 2-box, 3-box, etc.  many ppl have more than one family member that plays the game.</p>

[Swipty]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> it's been quite a while since you offerd this as an option, please make it so.</p><p>  players with multiple accounts are making you more money and deserve the extra effort imo maybe even charge a one time fee or only offer it to gold members.</p></blockquote><p>odd....great ideas like this usually get deleted by moderators for coming up with ideas soe cant <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Avirodar]

<p><cite>Tigress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>yea, linked accounts would be best but if they aren't willing to do that then this would be a good.</p><p> anyone with two+ accounts is going to have plat and if not..  well..</p></blockquote><p>that's not true.  not everybody has more than one acct bc they are powerlevelers who want to 2-box, 3-box, etc.  many ppl have more than one family member that plays the game.</p></blockquote><p>Account linking should only apply for a single person who is the exclusive user of multiple accounts.I would have to confirm when I get home, but I do not believe account sharing is allowed as per the EULA? Regardless of which, my stance (making an example) is that account linking should benefit 1 person who is the exclusive owner of 3 accounts, not a family of 3 running 3 accounts.If the family of 3 was running 6 accounts, each family member having exclusive access to their own two accounts, then each person should be able to link their respective (two) accounts, but NOT link to the other family members.</p>

[Gravy]

<p>No linking of accounts. </p><p>You can't have the benefit of two boxing and the benefit of moving Heirloom around. </p><p>If you want you can move toons to your 'main' account by buying a slot and character tx token.  If you can't buy the token because your acct is non recurring contact support and tell them what you want to do. </p><p>You can even wait until a double cash promotion to make this easier on the wallet. </p>

[Avirodar]

<p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No linking of accounts. </p><p>You can't have the benefit of two boxing and the benefit of moving Heirloom around. </p><p>If you want you can move toons to your 'main' account by buying a slot and character tx token.  If you can't buy the token because your acct is non recurring contact support and tell them what you want to do. </p><p>You can even wait until a double cash promotion to make this easier on the wallet. </p></blockquote><p>Why not? They're paying for it.People with multiple accounts should be able to move heirloom items to any of their alts, regardless of which account their alt is on (so long as they own account, and are the exclusive account user). If anything, SOE should make a point of implementing a system to link accounts, ASAP. It may inspire more people to roll an extra account, which equates to more revenue for SOE.Yes SOE, you read right. An angle to make more $$$. Add an account linking function.</p>

[Filly67]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p></blockquote><p>This would be great. </p><p>I would also pay a small fee to link my accounts.  It would be game changing for us in a hugely positive way.</p>

[Filly67]

<p><cite>Tigress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about let any HEIRLOOM item be mailed to any other person at a fee of <strong>12g</strong> per level for <strong>LEGENDARY</strong> and <strong>24g</strong> per level for <strong>FABLED</strong>. That would make for a plat sink of <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>11p4g</strong></span> for level 92 Legendary and <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>22p8g</strong></span> for Level 92 Fabled. This would take thousands of plat out of the game economy. Also I'd allow items to be unattuned for <span style="color: #ff6600;"><strong>50p</strong></span>.</p></blockquote><p>as always feldon comes up with all the "win" ideas  =p</p></blockquote><p>i dont like this idea.  remember, not everybody has been playing for 8yrs and is sitting on 1,000 plat.  they just need to link accts that are in the same household OR remove the stupid heirloom tag and let items be traded/brokered.</p></blockquote><p>You're right some of us have only been playing for 2-3 years but plat is still relatively simple.  Yes I do raid but it is not where I have made the majority of my plat.  I still make money tradeskilling, selling rares, drops on broker, plat runs etc... It's there and it's pretty simple.  There is a lot of plat in this game and this would help resolve this. </p>

[Filly67]

<p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No linking of accounts. </p><p>You can't have the benefit of two boxing and the benefit of moving Heirloom around. </p><p>If you want you can move toons to your 'main' account by buying a slot and character tx token.  If you can't buy the token because your acct is non recurring contact support and tell them what you want to do. </p><p>You can even wait until a double cash promotion to make this easier on the wallet. </p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Please list why you would oppose this.  Stating this with no reasoning is baffling.  I am pretty sure that you are unaware of the amount of players that two, three, even four box this game.  Having all your toons on one box simply defeats the purpose of having mulitple toons for many players.  Can't imagine why this would bother/effect you so please take a moment or two to explain your position.  Thanks.</p>

[Hateeternal]

<p>Seriously, they should make an ingame poll for THIS</p><p>and not for some crappy pay2win items that nobody wants.</p><p>Like somebody said earlier, this would impact the game in a very positive way for very very many of us</p><p>(at least once,for a change... ;P).</p><p>Doubt they will listen, though <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Tigress]

<p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Tigress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>yea, linked accounts would be best but if they aren't willing to do that then this would be a good.</p><p> anyone with two+ accounts is going to have plat and if not..  well..</p></blockquote><p>that's not true.  not everybody has more than one acct bc they are powerlevelers who want to 2-box, 3-box, etc.  many ppl have more than one family member that plays the game.</p></blockquote><p>Account linking should only apply for a single person who is the exclusive user of multiple accounts.I would have to confirm when I get home, but I do not believe account sharing is allowed as per the EULA? Regardless of which, my stance (making an example) is that account linking should benefit 1 person who is the exclusive owner of 3 accounts, not a family of 3 running 3 accounts.If the family of 3 was running 6 accounts, each family member having exclusive access to their own two accounts, then each person should be able to link their respective (two) accounts, but NOT link to the other family members.</p></blockquote><p>you are not correct.  by family, im not thinking of adults that are roomies.  married couple or parent and child.  minor child of parent is allowed to use their account & thats in the ToS.  (i had to look it up over a year ago when someone else made the same statement as you.)  not sure about married couple but since marriage means all their assets are one, i would guess that is the case.</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If the family of 3 was running 6 accounts, each family member having exclusive access to their own two accounts, then each person should be able to link their respective (two) accounts, but NOT link to the other family members.</p></blockquote><p>First off, this forum just ignoring posts is getting really old.  I've had to repost this reply 3x....</p><p>All possible controls to verify unique ownership are going to identify all 3 players and all 6 accounts having the same ownership, so with linking they'll all be able to share rewards. </p><p>IP logs, billing address, billing data, are all going to converge and agree that these 6 accounts share the same ownership and should be linked.  And I think any linking system is going to need to consider all 3 items, and perhaps a keyfob as well.</p>

[Avirodar]

<p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If the family of 3 was running 6 accounts, each family member having exclusive access to their own two accounts, then each person should be able to link their respective (two) accounts, but NOT link to the other family members.</p></blockquote><p>First off, this forum just ignoring posts is getting really old.  I've had to repost this reply 3x....</p><p>All possible controls to verify unique ownership are going to identify all 3 players and all 6 accounts having the same ownership, so with linking they'll all be able to share rewards. </p><p>IP logs, billing address, billing data, are all going to converge and agree that these 6 accounts share the same ownership and should be linked.  And I think any linking system is going to need to consider all 3 items, and perhaps a keyfob as well.</p></blockquote><p>That makes sense.Even though I do not believe a family <em>"should"</em> have all accounts linked, I see how it would be impossible to check and regulate. So if it is a family, let them link. A slight perk for families who play EQ2, a bonus for them in the process of SOE giving single players with multiple accounts, what is long overdue.It might also encourage players of EQ2, to have family members try the game.</p>

[Citadelli]

<p>I think it would be cool if SOE put in a sort of sub login within the game client to do a 2 box effect, that worked like a merc, maybe balancing the OP aspect with like a 6 spell hot bar on it and having it behave as a pet (nice auto follow, markers on them in group etc). Win/Win for those that pay for 2 accounts, SOE gets double subscription and people are enticed to get them without the cpu drain and alt tabbing confusion during game play.</p><p>Just a random thought <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Cit</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>All possible controls to verify unique ownership are going to identify all 3 players and all 6 accounts having the same ownership, so with linking they'll all be able to share rewards. </p></blockquote><p>That makes sense.Even though I do not believe a family <em>"should"</em> have all accounts linked, I see how it would be impossible to check and regulate. So if it is a family, let them link.<strong> A slight perk for families who play EQ2</strong>, a bonus for them in the process of SOE giving single players with multiple accounts, what is long overdue.<strong>It might also encourage players of EQ2, to have family members try the game.</strong></p></blockquote><p>I agree, and I fully supoort this.  Lets face it, the easier we can make it for our spouses to play, the easier our personal lives become =)</p>

[akin99]

<p>I would buy a ingame plat item or a SC item to allow linking of my accounts it would make life so much easier</p>

[Davngr1]

<p>gonna keep this thread alive till we get at least some response,  it is possible to integrate into game.  many different ways to do it and well worth the effort!</p>

[Gravy]

<p><cite>Filly67 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No linking of accounts. </p><p>You can't have the benefit of two boxing and the benefit of moving Heirloom around. </p><p>If you want you can move toons to your 'main' account by buying a slot and character tx token.  If you can't buy the token because your acct is non recurring contact support and tell them what you want to do. </p><p>You can even wait until a double cash promotion to make this easier on the wallet. </p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Please list why you would oppose this.  Stating this with no reasoning is baffling.  I am pretty sure that you are unaware of the amount of players that two, three, even four box this game.  Having all your toons on one box simply defeats the purpose of having mulitple toons for many players.  Can't imagine why this would bother/effect you so please take a moment or two to explain your position.  Thanks.</p></blockquote><p>Because I currently have 1 account with 8 toons. I don't have the ability to split that into 4 accounts with 2 toons each unless I pay extra for character transfer tokens.</p><p>You want the best possible situation with no downside. If you get this, then I want to be able to split my one account to 4 accounts at no extra charge aside from the sub fee.</p>

[Te'ana]

<p>My husband and I have four accounts (down from a high of seven). We would love to link them all and trade stuff between alts. I raid on one account and have a ton of unused shards that the other account could use.</p>

[Ahlana]

I am for it as a Gold only perk though.

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I am for it as a Gold only perk though.</blockquote><p>Since accounts and logons are platform / game independant it should be a station access perk only.</p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Filly67 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No linking of accounts. </p><p>You can't have the benefit of two boxing and the benefit of moving Heirloom around. </p><p>If you want you can move toons to your 'main' account by buying a slot and character tx token.  If you can't buy the token because your acct is non recurring contact support and tell them what you want to do. </p><p>You can even wait until a double cash promotion to make this easier on the wallet. </p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Please list why you would oppose this.  Stating this with no reasoning is baffling.  I am pretty sure that you are unaware of the amount of players that two, three, even four box this game.  Having all your toons on one box simply defeats the purpose of having mulitple toons for many players.  Can't imagine why this would bother/effect you so please take a moment or two to explain your position.  Thanks.</p></blockquote><p>Because I currently have 1 account with 8 toons. I don't have the ability to split that into 4 accounts with 2 toons each unless I pay extra for character transfer tokens.</p><p>You want the best possible situation with no downside. If you get this, then I want to be able to split my one account to 4 accounts at no extra charge aside from the sub fee.</p></blockquote><p>so your reason for not having linked accounts is because you're going to cry if you don't get what you want first?</p><p>  lol </p><p>  please devs linked accounts or at the very least some work arounds like the ones suggested for station/gold/SC members or wahtever you want to use to charge for this extra perk.  </p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Filly67 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No linking of accounts. </p><p>You can't have the benefit of two boxing and the benefit of moving Heirloom around. </p><p>If you want you can move toons to your 'main' account by buying a slot and character tx token.  If you can't buy the token because your acct is non recurring contact support and tell them what you want to do. </p><p>You can even wait until a double cash promotion to make this easier on the wallet. </p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Please list why you would oppose this.  Stating this with no reasoning is baffling.  I am pretty sure that you are unaware of the amount of players that two, three, even four box this game.  Having all your toons on one box simply defeats the purpose of having mulitple toons for many players.  Can't imagine why this would bother/effect you so please take a moment or two to explain your position.  Thanks.</p></blockquote><p>Because I currently have 1 account with 8 toons. I don't have the ability to split that into 4 accounts with 2 toons each unless I pay extra for character transfer tokens.</p><p>You want the best possible situation with no downside. If you get this, then I want to be able to split my one account to 4 accounts at no extra charge aside from the sub fee.</p></blockquote><p>so your reason for not having linked accounts is because you're going to cry if you don't get what you want first?</p><p>  lol </p><p>  please devs linked accounts or at the very least some work arounds like the ones suggested for station/gold/SC members or wahtever you want to use to charge for this extra perk.  </p></blockquote><p>devs for eq2 have little to do with anything relating accounts and the coding. Accounts are universal across all games there is an account platform team that would have to do the work, not the eq2 devs</p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Filly67 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No linking of accounts. </p><p>You can't have the benefit of two boxing and the benefit of moving Heirloom around. </p><p>If you want you can move toons to your 'main' account by buying a slot and character tx token.  If you can't buy the token because your acct is non recurring contact support and tell them what you want to do. </p><p>You can even wait until a double cash promotion to make this easier on the wallet. </p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Please list why you would oppose this.  Stating this with no reasoning is baffling.  I am pretty sure that you are unaware of the amount of players that two, three, even four box this game.  Having all your toons on one box simply defeats the purpose of having mulitple toons for many players.  Can't imagine why this would bother/effect you so please take a moment or two to explain your position.  Thanks.</p></blockquote><p>Because I currently have 1 account with 8 toons. I don't have the ability to split that into 4 accounts with 2 toons each unless I pay extra for character transfer tokens.</p><p>You want the best possible situation with no downside. If you get this, then I want to be able to split my one account to 4 accounts at no extra charge aside from the sub fee.</p></blockquote><p>so your reason for not having linked accounts is because you're going to cry if you don't get what you want first?</p><p>  lol </p><p>  please devs linked accounts or at the very least some work arounds like the ones suggested for station/gold/SC members or wahtever you want to use to charge for this extra perk.  </p></blockquote><p>devs for eq2 have little to do with anything relating accounts and the coding. Accounts are universal across all games there is an account platform team that would have to do the work, not the eq2 devs</p></blockquote><p>that maybe so but there are still ways that this could be done.</p><p> for instance you can trade stuff between group members for 48 hours, right?</p><p>  so just have an extra charge/SC/gold perk be the ability to start a group and just flag the group members are being able to trade anything between them. </p><p>  it wouldn't be so hard to code it's all ready in the game.</p>

[sompet_eq2]

<p>Yes, allow transfering heirloom items between own accounts. Please!</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>that maybe so but there are still ways that this could be done.</p><p> for instance you can trade stuff between group members for 48 hours, right?</p><p>  so just have an extra charge/SC/gold perk be the ability to start a group and just flag the group members are being able to trade anything between them. </p><p>  it wouldn't be so hard to code it's all ready in the game.</p></blockquote><p>Platform team still has to do the code to flag the accounts as linked, then something needs to be done to verifiy the accounts are actually owned by the same person, not sure why you think that the this is already in game, can pretty well bet that there is absolutely no code in the came that can physically link the multiple accounts and to "flag" them to be able to share items.</p><p>Groups in no way shape or form equate out to accounts, there is no requirement to verify that that account that has a character in the group belong to the same person.</p><p>The account platform team needs to be the ones that drive this project</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Lateana@The Bazaar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My husband and I have four accounts (down from a high of seven). We would love to link them all and trade stuff between alts. I raid on one account and have a ton of unused shards that the other account could use.</p></blockquote><p>this is the perfect example - are all your accounts under the same name? If not then suspect that the only accounts that would be linked are the ones that are that have the same name / billing information associated with them. technically if you are playing an account that is registered under a different name it is a tos violation</p>

[Xianthia]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>that maybe so but there are still ways that this could be done.</p><p> for instance you can trade stuff between group members for 48 hours, right?</p><p>  so just have an extra charge/SC/gold perk be the ability to start a group and just flag the group members are being able to trade anything between them. </p><p>  it wouldn't be so hard to code it's all ready in the game.</p></blockquote><p>Platform team still has to do the code to flag the accounts as linked, then something needs to be done to verifiy the accounts are actually owned by the same person, not sure why you think that the this is already in game, can pretty well bet that there is absolutely no code in the came that can physically link the multiple accounts and to "flag" them to be able to share items.</p><p>Groups in no way shape or form equate out to accounts, there is no requirement to verify that that account that has a character in the group belong to the same person.</p><p>The account platform team needs to be the ones that drive this project</p></blockquote><p>Then they should be getting on with it :p</p><p>Frankly, I'm not sure why this isn't being addressed or at least communicated about (yes I know there was some communication long long ago) but it never went anywhere.</p><p>"hoping to get to this" and then years later nothing happening is not really ... well idk what word to use here ...</p>

[Gravy]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Filly67 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No linking of accounts. </p><p>You can't have the benefit of two boxing and the benefit of moving Heirloom around. </p><p>If you want you can move toons to your 'main' account by buying a slot and character tx token.  If you can't buy the token because your acct is non recurring contact support and tell them what you want to do. </p><p>You can even wait until a double cash promotion to make this easier on the wallet. </p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Please list why you would oppose this.  Stating this with no reasoning is baffling.  I am pretty sure that you are unaware of the amount of players that two, three, even four box this game.  Having all your toons on one box simply defeats the purpose of having mulitple toons for many players.  Can't imagine why this would bother/effect you so please take a moment or two to explain your position.  Thanks.</p></blockquote><p>Because I currently have 1 account with 8 toons. I don't have the ability to split that into 4 accounts with 2 toons each unless I pay extra for character transfer tokens.</p><p>You want the best possible situation with no downside. If you get this, then I want to be able to split my one account to 4 accounts at no extra charge aside from the sub fee.</p></blockquote><p>so your reason for not having linked accounts is because you're going to cry if you don't get what you want first?</p><p>  lol </p><p>  please devs linked accounts or at the very least some work arounds like the ones suggested for station/gold/SC members or wahtever you want to use to charge for this extra perk.  </p></blockquote><p>Not first, at the same time.</p><p>If you get the ability to link accounts to share Heirloom items, I want the ability to unlink my account so I can mulit-box with my level 90s.</p><p>Currently, both are already possible.</p><p>If you want to link your accounts to share Heirloom then you just have to tx all your toons to the same account. It's just a matter of money.</p><p>At the same time, it's possible for me to do what I want. I just create a new account and split up my toons accordingly.</p><p>But this isn't what you want is it?</p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>that maybe so but there are still ways that this could be done.</p><p> for instance you can trade stuff between group members for 48 hours, right?</p><p>  so just have an extra charge/SC/gold perk be the ability to start a group and just flag the group members are being able to trade anything between them. </p><p>  it wouldn't be so hard to code it's all ready in the game.</p></blockquote><p>Platform team still has to do the code to flag the accounts as linked, then something needs to be done to verifiy the accounts are actually owned by the same person, not sure why you think that the this is already in game, can pretty well bet that there is absolutely no code in the came that can physically link the multiple accounts and to "flag" them to be able to share items.</p><p>Groups in no way shape or form equate out to accounts, there is no requirement to verify that that account that has a character in the group belong to the same person.</p><p>The account platform team needs to be the ones that drive this project</p></blockquote><p>you're just over complicating the issue.</p><p> the code to get this done is all ready in game it just needs to be manipulated to work for this purpose.</p><p>  what exactly is the difference between a group swapping no-trade for 48 hours and what is being asked in this thread?   sure that won't answer the questions about faction and such but even that can be dealt with by adding and item to a character that has full faction and having that item grant full faction like the "tablet" from "speak as a dragon" quest.</p><p>  further more, i don't understand why you continue to make baseless excuses about this issue since every time you transfer a character from one account to another GM's VERIFY your information and MAKE SURE the account belongs to the same person ALL READY! </p><p>  so as i stated the mechanics to make this possible are IN GAME it's just that no one is pushing to implement them and they really should.   it is quite possible to circumvent this "evil' station launcher team that seems to be holding this change back.</p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Filly67 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Avirodar@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No linking of accounts. </p><p>You can't have the benefit of two boxing and the benefit of moving Heirloom around. </p><p>If you want you can move toons to your 'main' account by buying a slot and character tx token.  If you can't buy the token because your acct is non recurring contact support and tell them what you want to do. </p><p>You can even wait until a double cash promotion to make this easier on the wallet. </p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Please list why you would oppose this.  Stating this with no reasoning is baffling.  I am pretty sure that you are unaware of the amount of players that two, three, even four box this game.  Having all your toons on one box simply defeats the purpose of having mulitple toons for many players.  Can't imagine why this would bother/effect you so please take a moment or two to explain your position.  Thanks.</p></blockquote><p>Because I currently have 1 account with 8 toons. I don't have the ability to split that into 4 accounts with 2 toons each unless I pay extra for character transfer tokens.</p><p>You want the best possible situation with no downside. If you get this, then I want to be able to split my one account to 4 accounts at no extra charge aside from the sub fee.</p></blockquote><p>so your reason for not having linked accounts is because you're going to cry if you don't get what you want first?</p><p>  lol </p><p>  please devs linked accounts or at the very least some work arounds like the ones suggested for station/gold/SC members or wahtever you want to use to charge for this extra perk.  </p></blockquote><p>Not first, at the same time.</p><p>If you get the ability to link accounts to share Heirloom items, I want the ability to unlink my account so I can mulit-box with my level 90s.</p><p>Currently, both are already possible.</p><p>If you want to link your accounts to share Heirloom then you just have to tx all your toons to the same account. It's just a matter of money.</p><p>At the same time, it's possible for me to do what I want. I just create a new account and split up my toons accordingly.</p><p>But this isn't what you want is it?</p></blockquote><p> the difference between people asking for linked accounts and you is that we understand that this will cost an extra fee; you on the other hand are here demanding for free upgrades.</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>you're just over complicating the issue.</p><p> the code to get this done is all ready in game it just needs to be manipulated to work for this purpose.</p><p>  what exactly is the difference between a group swapping no-trade for 48 hours and what is being asked in this thread?   sure that won't answer the questions about faction and such but even that can be dealt with by adding and item to a character that has full faction and having that item grant full faction like the "tablet" from "speak as a dragon" quest.</p><p>  further more, i don't understand why you continue to make baseless excuses about this issue since every time you transfer a character from one account to another GM's VERIFY your information and MAKE SURE the account belongs to the same person ALL READY! </p><p>  so as i stated the mechanics to make this possible are IN GAME it's just that no one is pushing to implement them and they really should.   it is quite possible to circumvent this "evil' station launcher team that seems to be holding this change back.</p></blockquote><p>no, you are looking at it from the single entity reasoning and assuming that the code in game will work without interfacing to the top level platform of account management. Where do you expect them to put the link code to accounts that eq2 has no indication exist in the account data base and ther is no verification as to teh simple fact that the accounts that the play wants to link are actually owned and paid for the same user? This has to be done at the account level for security purposes and verification - the eq2 application code has no way of verifying that there is no attempt at bypassing the tos. Group is easy, it has nothing to do with verification that accounts actually belong to the same person</p><p>Sorry but don;t believe the "evil station launcher program team" deals with the account platform, that would be more of a database developers and not web api coding. I don;t let my web / application developers touch the oracle and sql databases directly, they want an interface for data or stored proceedures they are givenstored  call proceedures that are written and sandbox tested by the oracle / sql developers</p><p>Linking account will require action by the development team that handles the account databases, related calls and veirification of like ownership of all accounts, or are you just expecting to put the name of the other account as a answer to a query and not expect any account verification to apply?</p><p>By the way -</p><p>_____________________________</p><p>"what exactly is the difference between a group swapping no-trade for 48 hours and what is being asked in this thread?"</p><p>_____________________________</p><p> how the simplest and most relevant one - makeing sure that the accounts are actually owned by the same person and registered in theor name to prevent abuse of the ability? That would be the first and most critical one that comes to mind. that is only one, can come up with a lot more, think about the possibility of abuse is it is not done at the account level and you will comeup with the rest.</p><p>____________________</p><p>"i don't understand why you continue to make baseless excuses about this issue since every time you transfer a character from one account to another GM's VERIFY your information and MAKE SURE the account belongs to the same person ALL READY! "</p><p>____________________</p><p>GM's do not do account to account character transfers, customer service does. You need to fill out a manual form and send it to SOE for verification that the transfer from and transfer to accounts are owned by the same people, once you recieve a verfication email you purchase a transfer token and the team you sent the verification email to initiates the transfer</p><p><a href="http://help.station.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/19519/kw/everquest%202%20character%20transfer">http://help.station.sony.com/app/an...cter%20transfer</a></p><li>In order to <em>transfer</em> a <em>character</em> between accounts please contact <a href="https://help.station.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/28939"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0066cc;">Customer Support</span></span></a>. These <em>transfers</em> must be done manually.</li><p>really not "baseless" if you do the research before you assume something, it has been like this for years - over a decade if you count eq1 in the mix.</p>

[Xianthia]

<p>No matter who or which department does this.  It is still a valid request from multi account owners.</p><p>The rest are just details as to how to get it done.</p>

[Tigress]

<p><cite>Gravy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>so your reason for not having linked accounts is because you're going to cry if you don't get what you want first?</p><p>  lol </p><p>  please devs linked accounts or at the very least some work arounds like the ones suggested for station/gold/SC members or wahtever you want to use to charge for this extra perk.  </p></blockquote><p>Not first, at the same time.</p><p>If you get the ability to link accounts to share Heirloom items, I want the ability to unlink my account so I can mulit-box with my level 90s.</p><p>Currently, both are already possible.</p><p>If you want to link your accounts to share Heirloom then you just have to tx all your toons to the same account. It's just a matter of money.</p><p>At the same time, it's possible for me to do what I want. I just create a new account and split up my toons accordingly.</p><p>But this isn't what you want is it?</p></blockquote><p>as  i said before, not everybody has two accounts so they can PL their guys.  FAMILIES have more than one account.  that's, right FAMILIES.  you ignored that before....</p><p>if FAMILIES want to play together, they cannot have characters on the same account.  it's that simple.  my son, being a minor child, cannot pay for his own goods/services.  i must pay for them on his behalf.  as a minor, he cannot enter a contract and/or agree to any terms of service.  therefore, i own two accounts.</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>link the accounts already. thank you!</strong></span></p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>you're just over complicating the issue.</p><p> the code to get this done is all ready in game it just needs to be manipulated to work for this purpose.</p><p>  what exactly is the difference between a group swapping no-trade for 48 hours and what is being asked in this thread?   sure that won't answer the questions about faction and such but even that can be dealt with by adding and item to a character that has full faction and having that item grant full faction like the "tablet" from "speak as a dragon" quest.</p><p>  further more, i don't understand why you continue to make baseless excuses about this issue since every time you transfer a character from one account to another GM's VERIFY your information and MAKE SURE the account belongs to the same person ALL READY! </p><p>  so as i stated the mechanics to make this possible are IN GAME it's just that no one is pushing to implement them and they really should.   it is quite possible to circumvent this "evil' station launcher team that seems to be holding this change back.</p></blockquote><p>no, you are looking at it from the single entity reasoning and assuming that the code in game will work without interfacing to the top level platform of account management. Where do you expect them to put the link code to accounts that eq2 has no indication exist in the account data base and ther is no verification as to teh simple fact that the accounts that the play wants to link are actually owned and paid for the same user? This has to be done at the account level for security purposes and verification - the eq2 application code has no way of verifying that there is no attempt at bypassing the tos. Group is easy, it has nothing to do with verification that accounts actually belong to the same person</p><p>Sorry but don;t believe the "evil station launcher program team" deals with the account platform, that would be more of a database developers and not web api coding. I don;t let my web / application developers touch the oracle and sql databases directly, they want an interface for data or stored proceedures they are givenstored  call proceedures that are written and sandbox tested by the oracle / sql developers</p><p>Linking account will require action by the development team that handles the account databases, related calls and veirification of like ownership of all accounts, or are you just expecting to put the name of the other account as a answer to a query and not expect any account verification to apply?</p><p>By the way -</p><p>_____________________________</p><p>"what exactly is the difference between a group swapping no-trade for 48 hours and what is being asked in this thread?"</p><p>_____________________________</p><p> how the simplest and most relevant one - makeing sure that the accounts are actually owned by the same person and registered in theor name to prevent abuse of the ability? That would be the first and most critical one that comes to mind. that is only one, can come up with a lot more, think about the possibility of abuse is it is not done at the account level and you will comeup with the rest.</p><p>____________________</p><p>"i don't understand why you continue to make baseless excuses about this issue since every time you transfer a character from one account to another GM's VERIFY your information and MAKE SURE the account belongs to the same person ALL READY! "</p><p>____________________</p><p>GM's do not do account to account character transfers, customer service does. You need to fill out a manual form and send it to SOE for verification that the transfer from and transfer to accounts are owned by the same people, once you recieve a verfication email you purchase a transfer token and the team you sent the verification email to initiates the transfer</p><p><a href="http://help.station.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/19519/kw/everquest%202%20character%20transfer">http://help.station.sony.com/app/an...cter%20transfer</a></p><li>In order to <em>transfer</em> a <em>character</em> between accounts please contact <a href="https://help.station.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/28939"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: #0066cc;">Customer Support</span></span></a>. These <em>transfers</em> must be done manually.</li><p>really not "baseless" if you do the research before you assume something, it has been like this for years - over a decade if you count eq1 in the mix.</p></blockquote><p> as i said before and i'll say it again, you're over complicating the process. </p><p>  anytime you fill out a petition it goes thru GM's.  who they hand the information does not mean that they didn't handle it too and fact is that they do ask information to verify if you own both accounts.  the point you're trying to make is with out merit.    who cares if customer service or GM's or root account software is used to weed out undesirable RIF RAF?  at the end of the day it's just a game and as long as they give me back my stuff (and they can) in the unlikely chance that someone hacks into my accounts then i don't really care about who does what.</p><p>   they could easily open up the "trading" privilege to a set number or characters.   lets say 6 or less since that's a group but it could go all the way up to 24 since i can trade these items with raid members when items are looted.</p><p> instead of having the "kill" marker on the items make it be something else, anything.  talking to an NPC?  have that flag all "no-trade" items sans quest/attuned trade-able between those characters. </p><p> quite simple and very doable, not saying i could code it but it's pretty obvious that the mechanic is all ready in game it's just a mater of someone making it happen. </p><p> so, please make it happen people want this service and don't mind paying an extra tariff to get it.</p>

[Wingrider01]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> as i said before and i'll say it again, you're over complicating the process. </p><p>  anytime you fill out a petition it goes thru GM's.  who they hand the information does not mean that they didn't handle it too and fact is that they do ask information to verify if you own both accounts.  the point you're trying to make is with out merit.    who cares if customer service or GM's or root account software is used to weed out undesirable RIF RAF?  at the end of the day it's just a game and as long as they give me back my stuff (and they can) in the unlikely chance that someone hacks into my accounts then i don't really care about who does what.</p><p>   they could easily open up the "trading" privilege to a set number or characters.   lets say 6 or less since that's a group but it could go all the way up to 24 since i can trade these items with raid members when items are looted.</p><p> instead of having the "kill" marker on the items make it be something else, anything.  talking to an NPC?  have that flag all "no-trade" items sans quest/attuned trade-able between those characters. </p><p> quite simple and very doable, not saying i could code it but it's pretty obvious that the mechanic is all ready in game it's just a mater of someone making it happen. </p><p> so, please make it happen people want this service and don't mind paying an extra tariff to get it.</p></blockquote><p>what ever, so you just want to be able to pass no trade to anybody, no matter if the accounts are owned by the same people or not, you leave no way of verifiying that ownership is actullay vlaid or not.</p><p>GM's have access to a subset of the account data, same as TSR's here on the forums - if you take the time to research you will see that. They don;t need to see ownership of the account to assist you in a petition, where as link accounts require a way of validation that the accounts are owned by the same person.</p><p>You need to understand structure before you can claim something, if it was as simple as you claim it to be and you are willing to pay a premium for it then it probably would have been done already, after all EQ2 is a profit center and anyway that income can be generated for the parent company take priority.</p><p>"they could easily open up the "trading" privilege to a set number or characters.   lets say 6 or less since that's a group but it could go all the way up to 24 since i can trade these items with raid members when items are looted.they could easily open up the "trading" privilege to a set number or characters.   lets say 6 or less since that's a group but it could go all the way up to 24 since i can trade these items with raid members when items are looted."</p><p>How exactly are you assuming that the verification of the "trading" be verifieid that those characters actually belong to the same person? Or are you just proposing that they allow any tom, Richard or harry to trade with anyone in the game - /rofl the chance of massive abuse of the "privilege" is rampart in how you envision it.</p><p>This discususon is linking accounts that are <strong>owned</strong> by the same person, not accounts that not owned by the same person, what you describe in the above quote already exists if you where a member of the group / raid so what you want is already there.</p><p>Linking my 6 accounts that are under my name and billing and no one elses so that I can move items between characters on the 6 seperate accounts have to done at the account platform level not at the game level, then a flag is passed down to the game with a pointer to the other accounts that I own to allow me to transfer items between those accounts</p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> as i said before and i'll say it again, you're over complicating the process. </p><p>  anytime you fill out a petition it goes thru GM's.  who they hand the information does not mean that they didn't handle it too and fact is that they do ask information to verify if you own both accounts.  the point you're trying to make is with out merit.    who cares if customer service or GM's or root account software is used to weed out undesirable RIF RAF?  at the end of the day it's just a game and as long as they give me back my stuff (and they can) in the unlikely chance that someone hacks into my accounts then i don't really care about who does what.</p><p>   they could easily open up the "trading" privilege to a set number or characters.   lets say 6 or less since that's a group but it could go all the way up to 24 since i can trade these items with raid members when items are looted.</p><p> instead of having the "kill" marker on the items make it be something else, anything.  talking to an NPC?  have that flag all "no-trade" items sans quest/attuned trade-able between those characters. </p><p> quite simple and very doable, not saying i could code it but it's pretty obvious that the mechanic is all ready in game it's just a mater of someone making it happen. </p><p> so, please make it happen people want this service and don't mind paying an extra tariff to get it.</p></blockquote><p>what ever, so you just want to be able to pass no trade to anybody, no matter if the accounts are owned by the same people or not, you leave no way of verifiying that ownership is actullay vlaid or not.</p><p>GM's have access to a subset of the account data, same as TSR's here on the forums - if you take the time to research you will see that. They don;t need to see ownership of the account to assist you in a petition, where as link accounts require a way of validation that the accounts are owned by the same person.</p><p>You need to understand structure before you can claim something, if it was as simple as you claim it to be and you are willing to pay a premium for it then it probably would have been done already, after all EQ2 is a profit center and anyway that income can be generated for the parent company take priority.</p><p>"they could easily open up the "trading" privilege to a set number or characters.   lets say 6 or less since that's a group but it could go all the way up to 24 since i can trade these items with raid members when items are looted.they could easily open up the "trading" privilege to a set number or characters.   lets say 6 or less since that's a group but it could go all the way up to 24 since i can trade these items with raid members when items are looted."</p><p>How exactly are you assuming that the verification of the "trading" be verifieid that those characters actually belong to the same person? Or are you just proposing that they allow any tom, Richard or harry to trade with anyone in the game - /rofl the chance of massive abuse of the "privilege" is rampart in how you envision it.</p><p>This discususon is linking accounts that are <strong>owned</strong> by the same person, not accounts that not owned by the same person, what you describe in the above quote already exists if you where a member of the group / raid so what you want is already there.</p><p>Linking my 6 accounts that are under my name and billing and no one elses so that I can move items between characters on the 6 seperate accounts have to done at the account platform level not at the game level, then a flag is passed down to the game with a pointer to the other accounts that I own to allow me to transfer items between those accounts</p></blockquote><p>are you trolling at this point?</p><p> because you're just repeating the same thing over and over again.</p><p>  let me make this clear:</p><p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #33cccc;">  YOU CAN TRANSFER A CHARACTER OUT OF ONE ACCOUNT (YOU CAN PROVE TO HAVE OWNERSHIP OFF TO GM'S/CSR'S) AND PLACE HIM ON ANOTHER ACCOUNT, YOU OWN.</span></p><p>  so in fact you can trade heirloom, it's just cumbersome and making simpler to do would not change anything or cause any more "abuse" than there is right now!</p>