SLR needs to be removed

[DamselInDistress]

<p>Ok so the initial discussion was a storm in a bottle and it turned out that the rumour was false.</p><p>The SLR cancer still needs to be dealt with. Can Piestro or another red name tell us if at least there is a plan for this to happen at some point ? Maybe use the in-game polls for this, even on the non-US servers .</p>

[Raknid]

<p><cite>DamselInDistress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok so the initial discussion was a storm in a bottle and it turned out that the rumour was false.</p><p>The SLR cancer still needs to be dealt with. Can Piestro or another red name tell us if at least there is a plan for this to happen at some point ? Maybe use the in-game polls for this, even on the non-US servers .</p></blockquote><p>ANOTHER thread on this. Didn't the mods just shut one down last week...or was it the week before? They happen so often now it is hard to remember. lol</p>

[Yimway]

<p>The lead designer commented in the thread and stated there was no plans or intention of changing loot mechanics.</p><p>That should be as definitive an answer as you need.</p><p>It really shouldn't bother you that others buy gear, you don't need to engage in it if you don't like it.  It doesn't impact your game play.  I personally don't like it and have a general rule I never buy loot off a mob I'm not already killing.  But thats just my view on it.</p>

[DamselInDistress]

<p><cite>Raknid wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>DamselInDistress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok so the initial discussion was a storm in a bottle and it turned out that the rumour was false.</p><p>The SLR cancer still needs to be dealt with. Can Piestro or another red name tell us if at least there is a plan for this to happen at some point ? Maybe use the in-game polls for this, even on the non-US servers .</p></blockquote><p>ANOTHER thread on this. Didn't the mods just shut one down last week...or was it the week before? They happen so often now it is hard to remember. lol</p></blockquote><p>Yup, a new, fresh thread and hopefully it will get a bit of attention now. The other thread is locked as it was a false rumour, this one is a simple question and suggestion.</p>

[DamselInDistress]

<p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The lead designer commented in the thread and stated there was no plans or intention of changing loot mechanics.</p><p>That should be as definitive an answer as you need.</p><p>It really shouldn't bother you that others buy gear, you don't need to engage in it if you don't like it.  It doesn't impact your game play.  I personally don't like it and have a general rule I never buy loot off a mob I'm not already killing.  But thats just my view on it.</p></blockquote><p>I still think it eserves a poll and if the majority decides it's not worth it then it can be dropped. We're not there yet though and weren't we told they'd use polls to gauge what people want ?</p>

[Raknid]

<p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=516284">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=516284</a></p><p>There it is.</p><p><table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" width="100%"><form action="/eq2/posts/doModeration.m" accept-charset="UNKNOWN" enctype="application/x-www-form-urlencoded" method="post"><tbody><tr><td rowspan="2" align="left" valign="top"><div><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/icons/moderator.gif" border="0" /> <span><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/profile.m?user_id=567876"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000; font-size: x-small;">SOE-MOD-04</span></strong></a></span> <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/icons/soe.gif" border="0" /></div><span style="font-size: xx-small;"><span><span style="color: #d2c5a9;">Community Moderator <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/avatar/EQ2/staff/avatar_community_relations.png" border="0" /> Joined: May 12, 2011Messages: 63</span><span><span style="color: #ff0000;">Offline </span></span></span></span></td><td valign="top"><span><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">Locking this one down. We have several topics on the subject already</span></p></span></td></tr></tbody></form></table></p><p>Soemtimes people just can't take the hint.</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>DamselInDistress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I still think it eserves a poll and if the majority decides it's not worth it then it can be dropped. We're not there yet though and weren't we told they'd use polls to gauge what people want ?</p></blockquote><p>I can see them using polls to find out what YOU want.</p><p>I don't not see them using polls to find out what you want taken away from OTHERS.</p>

[DamselInDistress]

<p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>DamselInDistress wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I still think it eserves a poll and if the majority decides it's not worth it then it can be dropped. We're not there yet though and weren't we told they'd use polls to gauge what people want ?</p></blockquote><p>I can see them using polls to find out what YOU want.</p><p>I don't not see them using polls to find out what you want taken away from OTHERS.</p></blockquote><p>That is becoming an old excuse.</p>

[Raknid]

<p>Doesn't matter. I have the feeling we won't be discussing this much longer. lol</p><p>It is funny how much people covet what other people have (can get).</p>

[Yimway]

<p>/leave_channel Auction</p><p>No more SLR in your game.</p>

[Onorem]

<p>If you want a new fresh thread, please provide some new fresh ideas.</p><p>Why is it a cancer?</p><p>How can they handle loot issues with raids that have to swap characters for specific scripts while preventing SLR, or do you not think that is a problem they should care about?</p><p>Will it be different when raid spots are sold instead of raid items?</p>

[DamselInDistress]

<p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you want a new fresh thread, please provide some new fresh ideas.</p><p>Why is it a cancer?</p><p>How can they handle loot issues with raids that have to swap characters for specific scripts while preventing SLR, or do you not think that is a problem they should care about?</p><p>Will it be different when raid spots are sold instead of raid items?</p></blockquote><p>Good point,</p><p>I'll do that once I get home a bit later</p>

[Yimway]

<p>The only issue I see with this is some of the trivial methods in which plat enters the game.</p><p>It is not reasonable to me that everything be valued in 'PR units'.  I don't think it was ever entended for the means of advanding your toons to be solo/duoing old raid content for plat to purchase gear.</p><p>I have no issues with SLR, but I do have issues in the lack of controls around the eq2 economy.</p><p>I wouldn't remove SLR, but tomorrow I would change chest coin loot to be a variable of how many people were present for the kill,  so PR would be 75g ea for the kills.  The result, you need to do content or things that net items/rewards that have value in the current economy in order to gain wealth, not repeat trivial things that yield no value to the marketplace.</p>

[Lempo]

<p><cite>Onorem wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you want a new fresh thread, please provide some new fresh ideas.</p><p><strong>Why is it a cancer?</strong></p><p>How can they handle loot issues with raids that have to swap characters for specific scripts while preventing SLR, or do you not think that is a problem they should care about?</p><p>Will it be different when raid spots are sold instead of raid items?</p></blockquote><p>Just because players with this mentality think if they toss in some inflammatory word/phrase like cancer, elitist, SLR mafia, price gouging that it makes thier point more valid when in fact it only make it look silly, and is met only with ridicule instead of an actual constructive process that might find a happy medium.</p>

[SOE-MOD-02]

<p>I am going to close this down now.  Please be sure to send in a /feedback in game about your ideas.  Thank you!</p>