View Full Version : Prestige Talent Row 5 Feedback
Mythal_EQ2
03-16-2012, 06:27 PM
<p><cite>Xelgad wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><span><strong>I'm very impressed with the quality feedback we've gotten on these already, and it's going to make improving them much easier. Thanks!</strong><p><strong>So far, we've been busy with row 5, which you guys should see on test next week. Instead of a traditional endline like many of you are expecting, Row 5 will grant a bonus from stacking a certain stat. For example, a melee priest DPS line might give a potency bonus from stacking multi-attack. We plan to expand the tree in the future so at that time, row 5 will likely become more of a starting point than an endline.</strong></p><p><strong>Lastly, I wanted to reiterate that we do not intend this tree, in its Game Update #63 state, to be as much as a power increase as the Heroic tree. Generally speaking, you can expect us to adjust the talents that are most powerful now before we're ready for live.</strong></p></span></blockquote><p>It's an interesting twist, and one that I have to say I am looking forward to seeing on Test... As long as these "bonuses" actually make sense.</p><p>For example, in your example of the melee priest, having the DPS line give a bonus to Potency for stacking Multiattack is... kind of useless (for a melee dps priest). Having it give Crit Bonus would make more sense.</p><p>The bonuses should also be significant... No more of the "0.1% spell-multiattack chance per 100% casting speed" crap. That's just insulting.</p><p>Another thing I have to say here... Please, please, PLEASE... do not make any of these endlines affect Spell-Weapon stats. Spell-weapons have been a rather useless, underpowered, and mostly annoying addition and wasting an endline on such will be more than a let-down.</p><p>D.</p>
Geothe
03-16-2012, 06:29 PM
<p><cite>Daervon@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>For example, in your example of the melee priest, having the DPS line give a bonus to Potency for stacking Multiattack is... kind of useless (for a melee dps priest). Having it give Crit Bonus would make more sense.</p></blockquote><p>Its not kind of useless at all. Its very logical. It is taking a stat that normaly has ZERO impact on healing, and allowing it to affect your healing ability as well.Crit bonus already impacts healing, converting CB to a potency bonus as well is double dipping the stat and just plain OP (especially since CB/Potency is itemized on pretty much every piece of gear).</p>
Mythal_EQ2
03-16-2012, 06:40 PM
<p>While I understand what you're saying and, to some extent, agree with you, my point is the following:</p><p>If I, as a melee priest, am going down the DPS line instead of the healing line... I expect the Endline to improve some aspect of my DPS -- NOT my healing.</p><p>Don't want it to be Crit bonus? Make it dps-mod. Auto-attack multiplier. Haste. Accuracy. Something that priests (since we're using that example) can't normally buff themselves.</p><p>D.</p>
<p><cite>Daervon@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xelgad wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><span><strong>I'm very impressed with the quality feedback we've gotten on these already, and it's going to make improving them much easier. Thanks!</strong><p><strong>So far, we've been busy with row 5, which you guys should see on test next week. Instead of a traditional endline like many of you are expecting, Row 5 will grant a bonus from stacking a certain stat. For example, a melee priest DPS line might give a potency bonus from stacking multi-attack. We plan to expand the tree in the future so at that time, row 5 will likely become more of a starting point than an endline.</strong></p><p><strong>Lastly, I wanted to reiterate that we do not intend this tree, in its Game Update #63 state, to be as much as a power increase as the Heroic tree. Generally speaking, you can expect us to adjust the talents that are most powerful now before we're ready for live.</strong></p></span></blockquote><p>It's an interesting twist, and one that I have to say I am looking forward to seeing on Test... As long as these "bonuses" actually make sense.</p><p>For example, in your example of the melee priest, having the DPS line give a bonus to Potency for stacking Multiattack is... kind of useless (for a melee dps priest). Having it give Crit Bonus would make more sense.</p><p>The bonuses should also be significant... No more of the "0.1% spell-multiattack chance per 100% casting speed" crap. That's just insulting.</p><p>Another thing I have to say here... Please, please, PLEASE... do not make any of these endlines affect Spell-Weapon stats. Spell-weapons have been a rather useless, underpowered, and mostly annoying addition and wasting an endline on such will be more than a let-down.</p><p>D.</p></blockquote><p>Where is a DPS Priest going to get enough MA to be consided a "stack"??? Certainly not from the gear we've seen to date, barring very small amounts thru the reforger.</p>
<p><cite>Nrgy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Where is a DPS Priest going to get enough MA to be consided a "stack"??? Certainly not from the gear we've seen to date, barring very small amounts thru the reforger.</p></blockquote><p>Have you tried? It's not nearly as hard as you make it sound... My Inq self buffed currently:</p><div>DPS Mod: 184</div> <div>Haste: 152.3</div> <div>Multi Attack:508.5</div> <div>AOE Auto Attack: 58.2%</div><div></div><div>mostly rare named drops, a few reactant pieces, couple pieces of eow gear, some raid gear, and quite a bit of reforging of course. I'm guessing scout-caliber MA values is probably sufficient to qualify for a "stack". The gear is out there, you just might have to be a little creative in how to get the results you want.</div>
Aneova
03-16-2012, 11:43 PM
<p>I don't mean to Derail... but instead of starting another prestige thread.</p><p>Will the prestige specs be saved via AA mirrors?, Will we be stuck to the end our days with our spec? Will we be able to reset our prestige tree at will unlike AA since these are seperate??</p>
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