Why do I get marks

[KodRM]

<p>As title says:I don't currently have the AoD expansion, I still play dungeons cause I enjoy exploring new enviroments and try out other peoples creations. I do get rewarded with dungeon marks for playing the dungeons BUT, as I do not have the expansion I can't buy anything with my marks I've earned.</p><p>So, is this the way it's supposed to be or is there a bug somewhere? </p><p>Why reward someone with marks they can't use, unless you buy the expansion?</p><p>I really can't see the point in earning marks or even be able to play the playermade dungeons if you can't use the rewards from it.</p><p>I'd love to see a change in the system, even if it makes me unable to play the dungeons or not. </p>

[Lempo]

<p>I guess the positive way to look at that is *if* you decide to buy the expansion in the future you will have marks to spend, you still get experience. If 4 abilities gives you enough immersion to be able to enjoy that is it not enough alone?</p><p>My Arari 2600 (which actually still works) had games that were more immersive that that tripe imo.</p>

[KodRM]

<p>True, but imo there shouldn't be an *If you buy* at all, to me it seems they kinda missed the goal on this one. </p><p>It's like "having the cake and not be able to eat it" situation, which stinks tbfh.</p><p>Maybe I'm alone to think like this but I can't help getting so annoyed over it after saving a bunch of tokens to buy different things only to find out, -"Hey, get the frikkin expansion first or you won't get da stuff"</p><p>/rant off</p>

[Cyliena]

<p><cite>KodRM wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Why reward someone with marks they can't use, unless you buy the expansion?</p></blockquote><p>To entice you to purchase the expansion.</p>

[retro_guy]

<p>Since there are no other rewards for dungeons except XP, it would be a bit mean not to award you the marks.</p><p>Just save them up until you're able to spend the marks.</p><p>Eventually AoD will be free or included in an expansion or so cheap it's worth buying</p>

[feldon30]

<p><cite>KodRM wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>True, but imo there shouldn't be an *If you buy* at all, to me it seems they kinda missed the goal on this one.</p></blockquote><p>Many goals were missed on Age of Discovery. But SmokeJumper said several times it's an <em>optional</em> expansion. If you like the features it contains, buy them. The days of automatically buying an expansion seem to be over.</p>

[mavetwhomavet]

<p><cite>KodRM wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>As title says:I don't currently have the AoD expansion, I still play dungeons cause I enjoy exploring new enviroments and try out other peoples creations. I do get rewarded with dungeon marks for playing the dungeons BUT, as I do not have the expansion I can't buy anything with my marks I've earned.</p><p>So, is this the way it's supposed to be or is there a bug somewhere? </p><p>Why reward someone with marks they can't use, unless you buy the expansion?</p><p>I really can't see the point in earning marks or even be able to play the playermade dungeons if you can't use the rewards from it.</p><p>I'd love to see a change in the system, even if it makes me unable to play the dungeons or not. </p></blockquote><p>Dude, this is Sony - big corporation. They're here to MAKE MONEY OFF OF YOU. F2P is an illusion to hook you in. There is NO SUCH THING AS F2P L M M F A O! Sure you can "play" the game but you don't get jack sh*t. Just the nature of the beast.</p>

[7foggynites]

<p>Is true. Even in DDO, something a lot of people hold on a pedastal as the king of F2P, rewards you very very little for doing things on the F2P plan and limits races and classes and places you can go and things you can do. It's ok in the first 10 levels, but after that it dramatically falls away. It's softer than a hard limit, sure, but for 90% of people playing it it may as well be hard because you gain turbine points so slowly. You have to grind like a 3rd wolder in a sweatshop.</p><p>I've played DDO. It's a nice little game, but there're no houses and only a couple open-zone areas for players. Virtually the whole thing is an instance. It feels a lot more generic because there're no racial cities. The quests are done fairly well, though. But I haven't played Eq2 yet (still downloading), so haven't been able to compare. DDO has a lot of replay value, I guess. Being able to mix classes and even rerolling your character from lvl 20 to 1. The worst thing I encountered in DDO was the grouping. They rush through everything and it's just not fun at all like that. Soloing was good.</p><p>Anyway... I think the Dungeon Maker thing is cool, but it has so much unseen potential.</p><p>Alas, EQ2 can't do everything. So you have to be grateful.</p>

[Zorvan]

<p><cite>7foggynites wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Is true. Even in DDO, something a lot of people hold on a pedastal as the king of F2P, rewards you very very little for doing things on the F2P plan and limits races and classes and places you can go and things you can do. It's ok in the first 10 levels, but after that it dramatically falls away. It's softer than a hard limit, sure, but for 90% of people playing it it may as well be hard because you gain turbine points so slowly. You have to grind like a 3rd wolder in a sweatshop.</p><p>I've played DDO. It's a nice little game, but there're no houses and only a couple open-zone areas for players. Virtually the whole thing is an instance. It feels a lot more generic because there're no racial cities. The quests are done fairly well, though. But I haven't played Eq2 yet (still downloading), so haven't been able to compare. DDO has a lot of replay value, I guess. Being able to mix classes and even rerolling your character from lvl 20 to 1. The worst thing I encountered in DDO was the grouping. They rush through everything and it's just not fun at all like that. Soloing was good.</p><p>Anyway... I think the Dungeon Maker thing is cool, but it has so much unseen potential.</p><p>Alas, EQ2 can't do everything. So you have to be grateful.</p></blockquote><p>Actually LotRO is the one most put on the "F2P pedestal" because, well, it deserves it. Think of DDO as the F2P prototype and LotRO as the F2P final product. SOE's biggest F2P mistake with their games has been their insistence on once again re-inventing a wheel that needs no re-inventing when a perfectly solid and successful model was right there for them to copy.</p>