Warden's Critical Debilitation 15% CritMit Buff now 2.5% HP = Pathetic

[crackers_87]

<p>Taking our 15% CritMit buff  & making it a 2.5% HP buff is a wast! 2.5% is not nearly enough! We need 10%+ to make it worth it. If you cant do that than scrap it & make it a Dps buff for my group! </p>

[flay_wind]

<p>I asked for something similar. And i think making it into a group wide 5% buff will work. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Talathion]

<p>The new warrior aa is awesome too! 2.5% HP for a short duration buff, totally worth 10 pts.</p>

[Mermut]

<p>+1Critical Debiltation is one of the bottom line warden abilities on the shadow tab.. currently it is something nobody else can do. Making it a 2.5% max health boost actually makes it give less health (for most toons) then the hitpoint component of Aspect of the Forest VII (a standard warden buff). My tooltip read 1,675 hp for the hitpoint portion Aspect of the Forest. For any character with less then 67,000, 2.5% max hit points would be a smaller buff then that.An AA that requires 5 points to gain an ability that is less then a single PART of one of a warden default abilty is a very, very poor exchange for something that was something only wardens could do in the past.</p><p>I would suggest that the developers rethink the whole idea that a tiny amount of hitpoints is a good 'exchange' for the removed crit mit (not just for the warden AA, but across the board). If they don't have the time to think of something more interesting or useful then a hit point bonus, I'd suggest that they think harder about the 'exchange rate'.</p>

[Talathion]

<p><cite>Mermut wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>+1Critical Debiltation is one of the bottom line warden abilities on the shadow tab.. currently it is something nobody else can do. Making it a 2.5% max health boost actually makes it give less health (for most toons) then the hitpoint component of Aspect of the Forest VII (a standard warden buff). My tooltip read 1,675 hp for the hitpoint portion Aspect of the Forest. For any character with less then 67,000, 2.5% max hit points would be a smaller buff then that.An AA that requires 5 points to gain an ability that is less then a single PART of one of a warden default abilty is a very, very poor exchange for something that was something only wardens could do in the past.</p><p>I would suggest that the developers rethink the whole idea that a tiny amount of hitpoints is a good 'exchange' for the removed crit mit (not just for the warden AA, but across the board). If they don't have the time to think of something more interesting or useful then a hit point bonus, I'd suggest that they think harder about the 'exchange rate'.</p></blockquote><p>to be honest it should be 10-15% Damage Reduction, all of them should be Damage Reduction.</p>

[Tekadeo]

<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>to be honest it should be 10-15% Damage Reduction, all of them should be Damage Reduction.</p></blockquote><p>Wait.............................Did Tala just say something halfway smart?  Tbh tho if they did do that it'd be something like 2.5% damage reduction.  Whoopty freakin doo.</p>

[Felshades]

<p><cite>Tekadeo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>to be honest it should be 10-15% Damage Reduction, all of them should be Damage Reduction.</p></blockquote><p>Wait.............................Did Tala just say something halfway smart?  Tbh tho if they did do that it'd be something like 2.5% damage reduction.  Whoopty freakin doo.</p></blockquote><p>Or *laughs* Mitigation increase.</p>

[KNINE]

<p>lol 2.5 % health to bolster.. 5 points i can put somewhere else now rofl /shrug happens</p>

[ChrissyFaey]

<p>+1Would be better as a damage reduction to fit the other warden lines that do similar.</p>

[Felshades]

<p><cite>Tekadeo wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>to be honest it should be 10-15% Damage Reduction, all of them should be Damage Reduction.</p></blockquote><p>Wait.............................Did Tala just say something halfway smart?  Tbh tho if they did do that it'd be something like 2.5% damage reduction.  Whoopty freakin doo.</p></blockquote><p>Well the beastlord ability is like 4%, and its a proc/temp buff type deal, so yeah 2.5% for a consistent buff sounds about right.</p>

[Gungo]

<p>The warden single target buff should be a small damage reduction but honestly you cant change everything to damage reduction because it has a low cap of 50%.</p>

[Illmarr]

<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><em><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: medium; color: #00ccff;">Warden</span></span></span></em></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: medium; color: #00ccff;">Aura of Health is now 5% max health and can be cast on any player in the raid.</span></span></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> </p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> </p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small; color: #c0c0c0;">That doesn't read like it's a group spell anymore to me so congrats, you traded 2.5% for your group for 5% to one raid member. </span></span></p>

[ChrissyFaey]

<p><cite>Cisteros@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><em><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: medium; color: #00ccff;">Warden</span></span></span></em></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: medium; color: #00ccff;">Aura of Health is now 5% max health and can be cast on any player in the raid.</span></span></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> </p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> </p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small; color: #c0c0c0;">That doesn't read like it's a group spell anymore to me so congrats, you traded 2.5% for your group for 5% to one raid member. </span></span></p></blockquote><p>...It was single target before, too.</p>

[Illmarr]

<p><cite>ChrissyFaey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cisteros@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><em><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: medium; color: #00ccff;">Warden</span></span></span></em></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: medium; color: #00ccff;">Aura of Health is now 5% max health and can be cast on any player in the raid.</span></span></span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> </p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"> </p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small; color: #c0c0c0;">That doesn't read like it's a group spell anymore to me so congrats, you traded 2.5% for your group for 5% to one raid member. </span></span></p></blockquote><p>...It was single target before, too.</p></blockquote><p>Edit: I was laboring under a false assumption. Ignore the man behind the curtain</p>

[Mermut]

<p>*sigh* Give slightly more health and let you put it on anybody in the raid instead of just a group member... a small token amount of health is just a small token amount of health. Giving the warden the ability to put it on anybody in the raid is does not make it appreciably better. The increase means that instead of 67k hp being the 'parity' with the health component of aspect of the forest, 33.5k is the hp of parity. Given that Aspect of the Forest has 2 other components, 5 AA still gives you a buff that isn't as good as a default spell.</p>

[crackers_87]

<p>I got to say i would still like to see + 10% but I am satisfied with the + 5% Now that i can put it on anybody i want. Thank you! </p>

[Draco the Grey]

<p><cite>Crankers@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I got to say i would still like to see + 10% but I am satisfied with the + 5% Now that i can put it on anybody i want. Thank you! </p></blockquote><p>And by "anybody you want" you mean the Conjuror's pet, right? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Mermut]

<p><cite>Katryna@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Crankers@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I got to say i would still like to see + 10% but I am satisfied with the + 5% Now that i can put it on anybody i want. Thank you! </p></blockquote><p>And by "anybody you want" you mean the Conjuror's pet, right? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>It would be as worth the 5 AAs to put it on the conjy pet as anybody else <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Gungo@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The warden single target buff should be a small damage reduction but honestly you cant change everything to damage reduction because it has a low cap of 50%.</p></blockquote><p>  was this changed?   because i remember damage reduction use to be 100%.</p>

[Daalilama]

<p><cite>Mermut wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Katryna@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Crankers@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I got to say i would still like to see + 10% but I am satisfied with the + 5% Now that i can put it on anybody i want. Thank you! </p></blockquote><p>And by "anybody you want" you mean the Conjuror's pet, right? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>It would be as worth the 5 AAs to put it on the conjy pet as anybody else <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>SOE will probably only allow it to be cast upon a player and not their pet</p>

[Bacci]

<p>Health is not an adequate replacement for a protection buff.</p><p>I would rather like to see an uncontested avoidance buff.</p>

[Beko]

<p><cite>Bacci@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Health is not an adequate replacement for a protection buff.</p><p>I would rather like to see an uncontested avoidance buff.</p></blockquote><p>That would benefit brawlers more then it would the other tanks.</p>

[Odys]

<p>Warden being a defensive priest, and defensive priests being quite the underdog this expansion (templars, wardens, defilers) they should be given significative damage reduction.</p>

[Fitz]

Maybe a two per minute refreshing stoneskin on any target in the raid? That would be nice in some fights, and slightly more interesting than just hp.

[Yimway]

<p>I'd prefer this as a damage reduction (non-fighter) target.</p>