Balancing PvP vs Battlegrounds

[Souse]

<p>Because in openworld PvP, there can be many obstructions toward taking data in order to process a balance from such data, I would like to propose toward the developers to look into balancing Battlegrounds by looking at parses from the matches.</p>

[Najen]

<p>Here is an idea: Completely remove BGs from the PVP server. Why? Because BGs takes people away from open world pvp. BGs are one of the major problems with the Nagafen server.</p>

[Yimway]

<p>Sadly, I do not see that the eq2 team is large enough to support PVP or BGs.</p><p>They should probably both be droped at this point to have enough resources to produce core PVE content.</p>

[Delethen]

<p><cite>Najen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Here is an idea: Completely remove BGs from the PVP server. Why? Because BGs takes people away from open world pvp. BGs are one of the major problems with the Nagafen server.</p></blockquote><p>I don't really believe this is true to be honest.  Bottom line is probably just that the population on Nagafen is tanking big time.  The only battlegrounds tier that has had anything in it for about 2 weeks now is T4, and even that is only like the same 20 fairly dedicated people from what I can tell.  Not to mention that probably only 12 tops are from Nagafen.</p>

[Applo]

<p><cite>Delethen@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Najen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Here is an idea: Completely remove BGs from the PVP server. Why? Because BGs takes people away from open world pvp. BGs are one of the major problems with the Nagafen server.</p></blockquote><p>I don't really believe this is true to be honest.  Bottom line is probably just that the population on Nagafen is tanking big time.  The only battlegrounds tier that has had anything in it for about 2 weeks now is T4, and even that is only like the same 20 fairly dedicated people from what I can tell.  Not to mention that probably only 12 tops are from Nagafen.</p></blockquote><p>I agree.  People have been making this claim forever, yet as BGs continue to wax and wane, open world PvP is constantly dead.   Like stone dead.  New open world content that literally forces people out and what do people do?  They mentor to 90 so people won't get credit for killing them assuming the small chance they can't run, fly or leap away from a fight.  Just taking an educated guess, I'd say that 90% of the current active players on Nagafen couldn't care less if the server turned blue and a significant number probably wish it would.</p><p>I say merge Nagafen with a low population blue server, focus on BGs and if there's enough of an outcry and resources, then create a new progressive pvp server with RoK/EoF rules and give the worldwide population free transfer tokens to that new server only.  Or heck, no transfers at all and people would probably still be stoked.  PvP has been neglected for YEARS, seriously, absurdly, way over the top neglect and unbelievable mismanagement.  I highly doubt any efforts will ever go into it again and if it did, then they should do it right.  Until that far, far away day in the future, they should cater to the PvE and 'PvP-lite' audience they currently have subscribed.</p><p>P.S.  The original post is ridiculous.</p>

[Rahatmattata]

<p>Open world pvp has gotten so bad, I actually build my chars now for mentored level 30 BGs.</p><p>The only T4 pvp ever is wf, and wf is dumb and a waste of time. Yay for pvp gear, too bad there's no pvp what's the point?</p>

[Twinbladed]

<p>I find people to kill all day long, it's not near as high as it used to be but they are still out there, the main issue I have is people run from everything, I don't like bg's for naggy either, but right now hardly anyone even does them. You can't say pvp isn't appealing either, ven, naggy, and vox alll had strong points for awhile until the system got so out of control people could not stand it, plus look at the mind set of the people who play now. Even inside bg's people just quit, open world is no different. </p>

[Talathion]

<p>There will never be class balance in PvP.</p>

[Delethen]

<p><cite>Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>There will never be class balance in PvP.</p></blockquote><p>If you must troll threads 24/7 at least try harder.</p>

[Tantrasil]

<p>The only way people would participate more in PVP/Battlegrounds is to let BG/PVP armor be usable like it was in the beginning for PVE.</p><p>Right now there's nothing to work towards in term of character progression.  Yes the PVP/BG armor and weaps are nice but why waste all of that time when you can just raid for better gear?  They just need to revert it back to the way it was and more people would do it.  I for one would renew my sub if they did.</p>