View Full Version : Efficient Healing.....??
Nicandrea
12-21-2011, 10:54 AM
<p>First of all this is not a rant, complaint, or a WOW is "better" thread. Just want to make sure I can heal as efficient as possible.</p><p>I am really enjoying the game. I will start by saying that. I really like the style of play, content, the look and everything about the game. I am concerned that I wont be as efficient as the group healer as I was in WOW. Wow had Add-ons like Vuhdoo and Grid that mouse over frames which you could customize however you wanted. Basically you had your mouse set up to do certain heals and cures by mousing over the players frame. You would never have to switch your target and could quickly deal with any situation that might come up. I am only lvl 24 and dont have a lot of healing experience yet. But is seems like a lot of "whack a mole" type healing. A lot of switching targets and healing whoever needs it. Other than keeping your reactives up at all times, I think I am really slow at dealing with single target heals, (myself or a group member) and not making things happen as fast as they should. I want to be the best healer I can be and any help from you fellow healers would be greatly appeciated. </p><p>Thanks in advance! </p><p>Nic</p>
Daalilama
12-21-2011, 12:07 PM
<p><cite>Nicandrea wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>First of all this is not a rant, complaint, or a WOW is "better" thread. Just want to make sure I can heal as efficient as possible.</p><p>I am really enjoying the game. I will start by saying that. I really like the style of play, content, the look and everything about the game. I am concerned that I wont be as efficient as the group healer as I was in WOW. Wow had Add-ons like Vuhdoo and Grid that mouse over frames which you could customize however you wanted. Basically you had your mouse set up to do certain heals and cures by mousing over the players frame. You would never have to switch your target and could quickly deal with any situation that might come up. I am only lvl 24 and dont have a lot of healing experience yet. But is seems like a lot of "whack a mole" type healing. A lot of switching targets and healing whoever needs it. Other than keeping your reactives up at all times, I think I am really slow at dealing with single target heals, (myself or a group member) and not making things happen as fast as they should. I want to be the best healer I can be and any help from you fellow healers would be greatly appeciated. </p><p>Thanks in advance! </p><p>Nic</p></blockquote><p>Hmmm first off how well are you geared? Second, what type of situation are you finding it difficult to heal a single target, raid/group zone? Thirdly, there really isnt "whack-a-mole" healing but there is on cures...so more info on the specific issues your having problems at would help</p>
Nicandrea
12-21-2011, 12:21 PM
<p><cite>Daalilama@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hmmm first off how well are you geared? Second, what type of situation are you finding it difficult to heal a single target, raid/group zone? Thirdly, there really isnt "whack-a-mole" healing but there is on cures...so more info on the specific issues your having problems at would help</p></blockquote><p>Mainly whats the quickest way to switch targets and fire off the heals and that sort of thing. </p><p>1. Do you put all your heal spells on your main hotbar and use 1,2,3,4, ect to fire them instead of mousing all over the place?</p><p>2. Is the quickest way to switch targets if a dps or yourself gets aggro to use the F keys, then switching back to tank with the appropriate F key?</p><p>Basically I want advice on how to do things faster and more efficiently. Mousing all over the screen to switch targets and cast heals seems way to hectic and SLOW! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Thanks again for any help!!</p>
Laenai
12-21-2011, 12:39 PM
<p>For me, the quickest way is to use a custom UI design like Profit or Drums and establish my quick raid buttons in order to maximize my efficiency <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Otherwise, I have an /assist macro and target through whatever mob the tank is targetting through, not through the tank. If a random DPS or myself winds up with aggro, I'm targetting that person for direct heals...although usually tossing out a group heal or two does just as well.</p>
SpineDoc
12-22-2011, 10:06 AM
<p><cite>Nicandrea wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Daalilama@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hmmm first off how well are you geared? Second, what type of situation are you finding it difficult to heal a single target, raid/group zone? Thirdly, there really isnt "whack-a-mole" healing but there is on cures...so more info on the specific issues your having problems at would help</p></blockquote><p>Mainly whats the quickest way to switch targets and fire off the heals and that sort of thing. </p><p>1. Do you put all your heal spells on your main hotbar and use 1,2,3,4, ect to fire them instead of mousing all over the place?</p><p>2. Is the quickest way to switch targets if a dps or yourself gets aggro to use the F keys, then switching back to tank with the appropriate F key?</p><p>Basically I want advice on how to do things faster and more efficiently. Mousing all over the screen to switch targets and cast heals seems way to hectic and SLOW! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Thanks again for any help!!</p></blockquote><p>If as a Templar you are single target healing the majority of your time you are doing it wrong IMO. You should always be casting a group spell to keep up your ward (and other) procs, by constantly rotating your group heal/group reactive for example you can usually keep your group up in the green, and by keeping repent and single target reactive on your tank you can keep them in the green, although we have a ton of tools available on top of this over and above single target heals as well. </p><p>What I do personally is I have 2 hotbars set up, I stretch them out so I can put a single target cure and a single target small heal on EVERY group member including myself, thats 2 hotbars set up 6x1 right under each group member name. In each single cure/single heal I set up a macro to target the group member, cure/heal them, then target my previous target, it makes for instant cures or small heals without taking my eyes off the tank if a particular group member needs a cure or a small heal.</p><p>For raids I use a UI mod to give me cure/heal icons right next to the raid members name so I can just click that. Drums UI is very good. I don't use a UI mod on my group window because they are all way too tiny and I like having adjustable hotbars. So in addition to the UI mods and setting up your own hotbars don't forget macros.</p>
luinnil
12-22-2011, 02:25 PM
<p>At level 24 somebody is unlikely to have ward (or any) procs.</p><p>Mainly I suggest taking advantage of EQ2's implied targeting. Target the enemy you're fighting, not the tank, and heal through that. If you're fighting a lot of enemies and people are getting a lot of aggro, I personally use a combination of keyboard and mouse to click and heal in raids, or simply hit the F-key for the group number and heal in groups.</p><p>There are a lot of UI mods that set up extra buttons but EQ2 keeps the interface locked down a little more than WoW does, so you won't ever be able to quite do the same things.</p>
Arielle Nightshade
12-22-2011, 11:49 PM
<p>Also, if you are expecting that a Templar 'translates' from WoW as a Holydin, you are going to be surprised with the way and amounts you heal. (I play both - they are similar in idea, but not in action).</p><p>If you are low level (meaning under about level 60), you dont have much in the way of gear or AA to add 'haste' to your casting speed. The 'flavor' of the Templar is slow, big heals. You don't get much in the way of insta-cast heals till later.</p><p>I am personally glad this game doesn't have Grid and Vuhdoo. Yeah, sure it's efficient, but it always felt to me like it was playing the game FOR me. Just my 2 on that, I know others don't agree. Mouseover curing was efficient too, but encounters run a little differently there than here.</p><p>As a previous poster said, there is a raid window that is helpful for targeting to heal and cure, but as a level 24ish healer you are probably not going to be on many raids. </p><p>Check out <a href="http://www.eq2interface.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.eq2interface.com</a> for the UI mods that are available to this game. We don't have 404858754 like WoW does, but IMO we don't need them, either. You'll get the hang of healing in this game in not too long. WoW always felt to me like I was fighting the UI, and I kept trying to find mods that would let me target like you can in this game.</p><p> The EQ2 UI is a lot easier to manage and you can imply target your tank (meaning you can target him to heal, and then damage whatever it is he's damaging while still targeting him). That lets you single target the tank for healing and the group gets healed with your group reactive and group heal. You shouldn't have to be bouncing around single targets to heal them - they should be watching their aggro. If they aren't, it's the EQ2 equivalent of them standing in The Fire, and after a few encounters like that ../shrug. You shouldn't have to be bouncing around from target to target to cure, either. You have a single target and group cures. Just use the group cure if more than one person gets a detriment so you don't have to leave your main target.</p><p>There is also a lot of good Templar advice on <a href="http://www.eq2flames.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.eq2flames.com</a> in that class section. </p><p>Hope this helps! Welcome to Templaring.</p>
Khiah
12-23-2011, 12:07 AM
<p>Ditto that on the bouncing around to heal everyone.. for simple grp setups you should only have to target thru the mt, if its a mob that likes to memwipe alot you can target thru mob and heal, your grp heals should be more than enouph to keep the grp up never leaving the tank as target, same goes for cures you dont have to have a different UI either you can click the det icon by their name to cure it while never untargeting the tank and they are pretty insta-cures, it will use your single target cure which is faster rather than the longer casting grp cure. I usually save my grp cures when the whole grp actually needs cured or I know a det is being cast so my grp cure hits as soon as the det does. (mobs have a bar that shows whats being cast so you know its coming as you play the game you will also just know when they are going to hit anyway alot of the time). Same notion applies if your raid healing just make sure you open the raid window up by right clicking on top of the raid window itself to show the intire raids detriments/curses) just single click in that window what needs cured it goes pretty darn fast that way. And alas grab a good tank to play with alot. practice makes perfect as they say. When your playing w the same tank alot you know what they can handle and what they cant and you both can push your limits without a bunch of rage quitters. I have a very select few tanks I love to heal for and after mos of raiding w them I will run any zone or try any content w them just cause after so long its a great team. As for those rangers that you see going splat .. dont worry it wasnt your healing its just their job to splat.</p><p>ANd ya flames has some good stuff but gl sifting thru the garbage to find the good stuff..</p><p>Ignore the ppl that tell you only certain classes can heal great and others arent needed. Inquis is better w the cures but temps are still great healers. How well you learn your class and they ppl you play with most is what will make you 'uber' or not. Along w aa and gear.. have your guildees take you on some aa runs and keeping your gear up. Temps dont have great dps ability. I lvld as inquis (and ended up betraying back to inquis) just for the dps but wouldnt suggest that to someone learning the game and classes.</p>
SpineDoc
12-23-2011, 11:15 AM
<p><cite>Callur@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>At level 24 somebody is unlikely to have ward (or any) procs.</p><p>Mainly I suggest taking advantage of EQ2's implied targeting. Target the enemy you're fighting, not the tank, and heal through that. If you're fighting a lot of enemies and people are getting a lot of aggro, I personally use a combination of keyboard and mouse to click and heal in raids, or simply hit the F-key for the group number and heal in groups.</p><p>There are a lot of UI mods that set up extra buttons but EQ2 keeps the interface locked down a little more than WoW does, so you won't ever be able to quite do the same things.</p></blockquote><p>You are right, I didn't read closely enough to see they were only 24. Still IMO you should get into the habit of making sure your group spells are always up. Your group reactive should always be up, but maybe at your level you don't quite need to spam your group heal just yet until you get ward procs later on. If you have halfway decent gear for your level, IMO quest drops will suffice, you should have no problem almost never having to target anyone but the main tank, your group reactive and group heal should take care of that, the only time you ever have to focus on someone is if a dps pulled aggro and is getting hit hard.</p><p>Also don't forget your lotto spells, they can be very useful. Put Glory on the fastest melee so they proc it the most. Involuntary cure is great for harder mobs. Healing fate is quite awesome for group mobs as well, especially if they aoe a lot.</p>
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