12 Days of Holidays!

[Domino]

<p>In EverQuest II, we are currently celebrating Frostfell; and for twelve days of Frostfell, we're picking one top selling item per day and putting it on sale at a huge discount for that one day only.  The items will change over around 10-11am (pacific time) each morning from now until the 24th of December.  Be sure to check in each day to see what's on sale.</p><p>And on the first day of Frostfell... pick up the beautiful original pegasus mount for only 600SC!</p><p><img src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/en/features/articles/marketplace/2011/062011/pegasus_white_th.jpg" width="450" height="350" /></p><p>Check out the "sale" tab in the marketplace to find it; only till tomorrow morning, so don't miss it!  Watch this forum or log in each day to see the new sale items.</p>

[Stormflint]

<p><--- Underwhelmed</p>

[Grycks]

<p>In the spirit of the holidays I would like to say I'm happy for the folks who waited to buy these items especially if previously they could not afford them and now can.</p>

[megaira13]

<p>I'm sorry, but while this:</p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">"<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; background-color: #020c15;">This could be a new item, a sale or a new feature, you'll need to login daily to find out what's happening in your game!"</span></span></p><p>does mentions sales...  it was not quite how I translated the entire "12 days" would go.</p><p>I'm not logging in every day just to see what is on sale for SC.  I will log in if there's a nifty item to claim.</p>

[Stormflint]

<p><cite>Ninibi@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but while this:</p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">"<span style="line-height: 21px; background-color: #020c15; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">This could be a new item, a sale or a new feature, you'll need to login daily to find out what's happening in your game!"</span></span></p><p>does mentions sales...  it was not quite how I translated the entire "12 days" would go.</p><p>I'm not logging in every day just to see what is on sale for SC.  I will log in if there's a nifty item to claim.</p></blockquote><p><--- pwn'd</p>

[wickedss99]

<p><cite>Ninibi@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but while this:</p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">"<span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; background-color: #020c15; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">This could be a new item, a sale or a new feature, you'll need to login daily to find out what's happening in your game!"</span></span></p><p>does mentions sales...  it was not quite how I translated the entire "12 days" would go.</p><p>I'm not logging in every day just to see what is on sale for SC.  I will log in if there's a nifty item to claim.</p></blockquote><p>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</p>

[SlawSlayer]

<p>Is this item an Heirloom?  Also where are the SC sales? </p>

[apwyork]

<p>This is not really what I envisioned as "12 days of frostfell"  I didn't really read the previous annoucements but I pictured more in lines of entering the game to find or do something, not station shop.</p><p>Besides, this mount was on sale day after thanksgiving for 450 so anyone who wanted it probably already has it.  I know I bought 3 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[shots01]

<p><cite>apwyork wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is not really what I envisioned as "12 days of frostfell"  I didn't really read the previous annoucements but I pictured more in lines of entering the game to find or do something, not station shop.</p><p>Besides, this mount was on sale day after thanksgiving for 450 so anyone who wanted it probably already has it.  I know I bought 3 <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Some of us dont have oodles of SC.  Some of us couldn't buy it then.  But can now and appreciate the discount, even if it isn't as big as the one at thanksgiving.  Its still a discount.</p>

[Arkast]

<p>If we're going to get 12 days of marketplace specials, I'd like to see what they all are in advance. I don't have oodles of SC to play around with either, so I'd hate to buy something only to see a more desired item go on sale the next day.</p><p>*Sitting on my cash*</p>

[Cloudrat]

<p>On the first day of Frostfell, SoE gave to me...</p><p>A slightly lower priced steed...<span style="font-size: medium;">♪♫</span></p>

[Mizlek]

<p>How about fixing one item from GU61 each of the 12 days? That would be fun and festive.</p><p>-Miz</p>

[megaira13]

<p><cite>Cloudrat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>On the first day of Frostfell, SoE gave to me...</p><p>A slightly lower priced steed...<span style="font-size: medium;">♪♫</span></p></blockquote><p>LOL </p>

[Arcturys]

<p><cite>Cloudrat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>On the first day of Frostfell, SoE gave to me...</p><p>A slightly lower priced steed...<span style="font-size: medium;">♪♫</span></p></blockquote><p>LOL! Have a cookie.</p><p><cite>Mizlek wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How about fixing one item from GU61 each of the 12 days? That would be fun and festive.</p><p>-Miz</p></blockquote><p>Agreed. It would also be nice to see something like they did for the last couple days of Nights of the Dead - mailing us a different item each day that we logged in.</p><p>I'm sorry Domino, but it just seems pretty cheesy to excitedly remind us to log in every day for the 12 Days of Frostfell when all it boils down to is logging in every day so that we can give SOE more money. I figured like others that it would be some free gift or, as I mentioned, something we'd get in the mailbox as we did for Nights of the Dead.</p>

[Valdaglerion]

<p>Remind yourselves of that the next time you walk by a store and they have a 30% off sale on selected items.</p><p>Its not for everyone, fine but there is just no pleasing some people at all it seems. </p>

[Ilovecows]

<p>IIRC for this or a similar thing last year, we actually got stuff... Is this year just going to be stuff on sale in the marketplace or are we going to be getting stuff?</p>

[Grycks]

<p>For those desiring free stuff that do not mind it being fluff, can go see Santa Glug daily in the Frostfell Village zone. For some folks, that might just be enough. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Raienya]

<p>Note to SOE:</p><p>Please change the name of this "event" to "The 12 SC Sale Days of Frostfell".</p><p>Seriously, calling this a gift event when the items are for sale on the SC store? Count me as completely underwhelmed.</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>okay so day 1 was a sale. there's 11 more days. geeze people get a grip.</p>

[msgnomer]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>okay so day 1 was a sale. there's 11 more days. geeze people get a grip.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, one of the announcements said that each day it was going to be another station cash item on sale.</p><p>I like Santa Glug. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Elorah]

<p>Just like the expansion, they can not please everyone and they would go crazy trying to.</p><p>Thanks for the event!  I am sure that some people will enjoy it <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Iad]

<p>Why not just put entire Marketplace categories on sale each day, and let people choose which item they want to purchase?</p>

[simianthief]

<p>Underwhelmed as well.  The initial announcement had me excited because I was looking forward to a nice shiney in the mail, maybe a sale item or two and some new stuff scattered about.  </p><p>Meh.  Press reset and let's try again.  Don't get me wrong pegasus is nice and all, but if I had wanted one I would have jumped on the Thanksgiving sale.  Then again many people are newly returned and missed it, so it's cool that it's there.  </p><p>Anxiously awaiting the second day's "gifts".</p>

[Creame]

Am I the only one that "Really" doesn't care about SC items for the 12 Days of Frostfell??? I mean come on!!! Not everyone has just tons on top of tons of SC to spend on these items. I know I don't. And Hello its Christmas time I'd bet a good many of us have better places to be spending our money then on SC, like our kids and family members. And its Frostfell ( aka Christmas ) so why do we have to " Pay " for a " Gift ". Shouldn't this stuff be free??? in the spirit of " Giving " How about Double XP or maybe some free stuff like yall did for NoTD??? And for waiting a day and a half for AOD and so far we have seen nothing to make up for this delay, why not make it up now in the 12 days of FF???

[Nrgy]

<p><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>In EverQuest II, we are currently celebrating Frostfell; and for twelve days of Frostfell, we're picking one top selling item per day and putting it on sale at a <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>huge </strong></span>discount for that one day only.  The items will change over around 10-11am (pacific time) each morning from now until the 24th of December.  Be sure to check in each day to see what's on sale.</p><p>And on the first day of Frostfell... pick up the beautiful original pegasus mount for only 600SC!</p><p>Check out the "sale" tab in the marketplace to find it; only till tomorrow morning, so don't miss it!  Watch this forum or log in each day to see the new sale items.</p></blockquote><p>Huge....  that made me LOL!  It is 350 sc off, when it was 450 sc off just two weeks ago.  How is 1/3 off in any way HUGE!  I suppose the black frieday sale must have been Colossal under those definitions.  Huge would imply more than 50%.  Someone needs to choose their words more carefully.  BTW, anyone at SOE care to share how many were bought?  My guess is the only people that would even have considered buying this slightly discounted SC item would be the returning veteran players which left after having already purchased DOV.  So, not that many.</p>

[Arianah]

<p>I agree with posts made by both sides of the argument. After last years 12 Days of Velious promotion I thought this would be similar to that and/or the few items we got in the mail for Nights of the Dead, and was excited to see what each day would be. To find out it was just a new sale each day was a little disappointing.</p><p>However, going back and reading both the general and the EverQuest II announcement, no where did they mention "gift," so I think some of us jumped the gun on that one with assumptions.</p><p>12 Days of Holidays isn't an innaccurate title, if what we gathered about this is that each day will be a new sale item, then it's still 12 Days of Holidays... each day will be a different item on sale for the holiday /shrug.</p><p>Having said that, I think this would have been the perfect opportunity to prove that the players who think SoE/EQII just want to take money from our pockets are wrong, by doing something similar to the 12 Days of Velious promotion or the Nights of the Dead mailed items. (And to clarify, no I'm not one of those players.)</p><p><cite>Thimdirran@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>In the spirit of the holidays I would like to say I'm happy for the folks who waited to buy these items especially if previously they could not afford them and now can.</p></blockquote><p>Ditto <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>I also agree a calendar of the items to go on sale would be nice. To prevent from overspending during the holiday season and still be able to get an item we'd really want (maybe the Uncanny Estate? *wink wink*), or to avoid waiting for a specific item to go on sale only for it not to, and miss all the previous opportunities.</p>

[Gorjuss]

<p>First I would like to say this...The Spirit of Christmas is giving and while SOE chose to lower the price of an item as a gift it's still a gift and the whining and complaining about it just shows the ungratefulness of folks. Yes, it's a for sale item that kinda sucks but SOE is also a business and I believe even Walmart is calling their Christmas sales something fancy and implying all kinds of things so stop acting whiny and surprised.</p><p> Second, I would LOVE to know what was going to be on sale next if it's about strictly sales in the market I have my eye on some of the kilts but I haven't much SC to spend lol</p><p>Third: Merry Christmas to all the folks at SOE</p>

[SlawSlayer]

<p>What's today sale item?</p>

[SOE-MOD-02]

<p><cite>SlawSlayer wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What's today sale item?</p></blockquote><p>Domino said in the OP....</p><p>"<span style="color: #d2c5a9; font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">The items will change over around 10-11am (pacific time) each morning from now until the 24th of December.  Be sure to check in each day to see what's on sale."</span></p><p>That still gives us a 90 minute wait.  Patience <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Domino]

<p><cite>Ninibi@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but while this:</p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">"<span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; background-color: #020c15; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">This could be a new item, a sale or a new feature, you'll need to login daily to find out what's happening in your game!"</span></span></p><p>does mentions sales...  it was not quite how I translated the entire "12 days" would go.</p></blockquote><p>The fact we're putting some items on sale does not preclude the possibility of anything else happening also.  We already have a TON of shiny new stuff out there from the expansion right now too (including an entire free revamp of Freeport) so I do hope there's plenty to keep folks entertained this Frostfell season whether or not they are interested by sales. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[urgthock]

<p><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The fact we're putting some items on sale does not preclude the possibility of anything else happening also.</p></blockquote><p>That would be a nice frostfell gift. Here's hoping!</p>

[Vinyard]

<p><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ninibi@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but while this:</p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">"<span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; background-color: #020c15; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">This could be a new item, a sale or a new feature, you'll need to login daily to find out what's happening in your game!"</span></span></p><p>does mentions sales...  it was not quite how I translated the entire "12 days" would go.</p></blockquote><p>The fact we're putting some items on sale does not preclude the possibility of anything else happening also.  We already have a TON of shiny new stuff out there from the expansion right now too (including an entire free revamp of Freeport) so I do hope there's plenty to keep folks entertained this Frostfell season whether or not they are interested by sales. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>But Domino...not all of us have access to the new Freeport because we hate that city, we hate its leader, and we hate the evil people!</p>

[Dumervolt]

<p>Mom - son, Happy Frostfell! Here's your GIFT...</p><p>Son - thanks MOM! Frostfell is my favorite time of year! Thank you thank you thank you. </p><p>Mom - ok son, that will be 800 station cash please. </p><p>Son - WHAT?? I have to pay for my gifts this year?</p><p>Mom - Yes! SOE laid Santa Glug off and they have to turn profits too!</p><p>Son - So being good all year long makes me pay in the end... While all be darned, kiss me funny and call me a troll!</p><p>Mom - with an attitude like that you can pay full price then!</p><p>Happy Frostfell everyone - take your money and donate to charity and those truly in need before you buy station cash. That way you prove a point and help those that really need it.</p>

[megaira13]

<p><cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ninibi@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm sorry, but while this:</p><p><span style="color: #ffffff;">"<span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 21px; background-color: #020c15; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">This could be a new item, a sale or a new feature, you'll need to login daily to find out what's happening in your game!"</span></span></p><p>does mentions sales...  it was not quite how I translated the entire "12 days" would go.</p></blockquote><p>The fact we're putting some items on sale does not preclude the possibility of anything else happening also.  We already have a TON of shiny new stuff out there from the expansion right now too (including an entire free revamp of Freeport) so I do hope there's plenty to keep folks entertained this Frostfell season whether or not they are interested by sales. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Thanks Domino, I appreciate your response.    I do feel though that some of the wording in these things might need a little fine tuning.  This is the second situation I've seen in a couple weeks with SOE where on one side it seems obvious that the wording does not indicate x or y, and to the player side the interpretation is quite different.    </p><p>One side has the context of knowing how the system is set up, and how it is meant to work, and what is intended.  The other side has the hope/expectation of goodies.    </p><p>A possible way to reword that update might have been:</p><p><em>" . . . when you log in to the participating games below, you will find special offers and deals.</em></p><p><em>Each day will have a different deal: it may be an existing item on sale, a new item, or a new feature.  Log in to find out what's happening in your game!"</em></p><p>Not that it helps, after the fact, but ah, if only I were psychic, it'd all be so obvious! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Duhikae]

<p>Poor Reimani.</p><p>Thought she was dumping points in to 'Psychic', but actually dumped them in to 'Psychotic'</p><p>Easy mistake to make.</p>

[Kynre]

<p>Would be nice if we were able to "gift" these items to those loved ones that do not have oodles of SC.  Too bad after 7 years paying and playing I still have to wait a month to be able to gift...</p>

[Aklira]

<p>Yes I know.. funny thing is I thought I'd already been subscribed a month yet I have to wait another month to gift?</p><p>I hd wanted to be able to a gift a friend silver status since I convinced her to try EQ2 and she's having a blast but starting to encounter the restrictions and at the moment can't afford even the $5 for the silver upgrade.</p>

[LadyMist]

<p><span style="color: #00ccff;">Ah the good ole days when there was 12 days of frostfell and no sc store yet.... If we could only travel in time..oh yeah glug was there then too on top of the 12 days! Bur wait theres more< new expansions came out in november then too! So lots of new stuff happened all along.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ccff;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #00ccff;">I guess thereis a excuse for everything, just like they dont have an excuse why they cant give us parental controls for station store, but who needs them right? I mean when you have 6250 station cash and walk away to tend the stove, in comes your sneaky kids and wow I just bought 4 character slots at 1000 a pop and soe is like LOL /point /laugh</span></p>

[ratbast]

I also had different expectations after reading about this program. When its a tv commercial I just chalk it up to intentional misleading to grab attention. at the end of the day, it drastically increases cynicism. if SOE wants to build different type of relationship with its customers, honesty & clarity in communication is a great way to build trust. I was pleasantly surprised to hear returning players would be grandfathered in and not require race/class paks to play their old toons. i think that is generous and made me feel like cutting SOE a break on other things. for the record, i have no intention of going f2p myself, and this decision likely wont ever directly impact me. i felt this program announcement was misleading. i dont mind SC ads as press releases, but be upfront about whats going on.

[Gorjuss]

<p><cite>Bladenkerst@Unrest_old wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Would be nice if we were able to "gift" these items to those loved ones that do not have oodles of SC.  Too bad after 7 years paying and playing I still have to wait a month to be able to gift...</p></blockquote><p>Now see, I wondered how all those people selling sc items for plat disappeared that explains a lot. A plat farmer isn't going to pay for 2 months so they can farm plat</p>

[Dale]

<p>I appreciate all the new stuff.</p><p>I'm in the same boat of wishing it was more than SC items for 12 days though.  Overall, there's a lot going on, but most of us vets bust through the holiday stuff pretty quickly and the new shard of love (that was pretty but nothign to do in there but gather) didn't take up any time at all.</p><p>I think most just wished for a little more creativity in the 12 days instead of just a sale. </p>

[Grycks]

<p>Wait...why are folks having to wait months to gift Station Cash items? Where was this announced? What are the details?</p>

[Dale]

<p><cite>Thimdirran@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Wait...why are folks having to wait months to gift Station Cash items? Where was this announced? What are the details?</p></blockquote><p>Gifting was cancelled and then they apparently brought it back, but I (who've had account since launch and subscribed the last 6 months without stopping) still cannot gift.  I assume it's broken.</p>

[megaira13]

<p><cite>Duhikae@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Poor Reimani.</p><p>Thought she was dumping points in to 'Psychic', but actually dumped them in to 'Psychotic'</p><p>Easy mistake to make.</p></blockquote><p>I should have known "psychic" wouldn't be a half elf or brigand option.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[SisterTheresa]

<p>Now that the event and the holidays (pretty much) are over, I just wanted to put my own feedback here.</p><p>First off, I wanted to say that the idea behind the 12 days of Frostfell is excellent.</p><p>But . . .</p><p>As you probably may have read, I think many players are disappointed in how you went about it.</p><p>Getting sales on things is great and all, triple SC days are good too, but you have to remember pidgeoning the entire event based on that (when you have a percentage of "whales" [people who spend uber amounts of money for anything to pretty much offset those who don't]) is a bad idea.  Many don't buy SC, don't get the cards near them, don't have a CC to buy it, etc.</p><p>You would have done better (IMHO) to have kept the nearest weekend a triple SC cash time, <strong>but</strong> the other days mix in double exp, free gifts in the mail (ala NoTD) and more guide events (I know you can make NPC guides to do them).</p><p>Thank you for the event though, and here's to seeing the next one!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Metaphysix]

<p>Ridolain, if that was the case, they wouldn't have went Free To Play.</p><p>It's always best to remember that just because <strong>you</strong> don't (or can't), doesn't mean others don't (or can't).</p><p>Why people try to make their biased opinions sound like facts on the internet is beyond me.</p><p><cite>Ridolain@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Many don't buy SC, don't get the cards near them, don't have a CC to buy it, etc.</p></blockquote>

[SisterTheresa]

<p><cite>Metaphysix wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ridolain, if that was the case, they wouldn't have went Free To Play.</p><p>It's always best to remember that just because <strong>you</strong> don't (or can't), doesn't mean others don't (or can't).</p><p>Why people try to make their biased opinions sound like facts on the internet is beyond me.</p><p><cite>Ridolain@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Many don't buy SC, don't get the cards near them, don't have a CC to buy it, etc.</p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Ah thanks for putting words into my mouth I didn't say.</p><p>I did NOT say I COULD NOT BUY THEM.  I was making a statement some could not (as for a time the guildmates in my guild from Euroupe COULD NOT as I BOUGHT the cards and messaged them the codes.  THAT IS A FACT).  Quote my original post and show me where I SPECIFICALLY say that I could not buy them.</p><p>Getting very tired of people on these forums doing this to me yet have NO WAY of backing it up.  Get off your high horses, really. </p><p>I can buy them easily enough.  So watch what you write, thanks.</p>