It is time to optomize things

[Zehl_Ice-Fire]

<p>It's time for devs of all online game to work on optomizing at least a little. I don't play any other MMOs to compare, but I mess around on Facebook games and I see the lack of caring how well most of those games run.</p><p>Yes of course it's preferable to have a brand new top of the line Win 7 computer to play on, my laptop is but that is my 2ndary comp. My Vista 64 desktop is not that old, dual core processor, maxed on Ram, high end graphics card. I built it maybe 3 years ago, at that time it was pretty amazing, I could 3 box in balanced, with a tiny lag, I could even 3 box higher than that with a little more lag but livable.</p><p>I should at least be able to play on extreme performance without excessive lag.</p><p>After DoV I really can't run 3 on this computer, 2 on extreme was laggy even, 1 on balanced was laggy. And now since AoD (which I don't even have) I can hardly run 2 on extreme performance. Even on the win 7 machine they just randomly crash to desktop with no error message, just poof gone.</p><p>I can run 3 on my laptop but I'm just not set up for that to be the main PC.</p><p>Yes I want to upgrade, but I just can't do it financially right now. (yeah poor me hehe)</p><p>Is there a posted current actual minimum requirements anywhere?</p>

[Leinna]

<p>Take a look at this post (its very large)...</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=444036" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=444036</a></p><p>This post talks about peoples system specs (old to new) and how they are perfoming.  One thing to always remember with EQ2 a single core CPU such as 3.6GHz is better then a quad core 2.0GHz.</p>

[Zehl_Ice-Fire]

<p>Ha, I'm basically seeing that the game runs poorly for most people, even with high end computers.</p><p>My dual core is 3.10GHz, instead of bothering to improve programming, devs just assume players can buy a new PC every other year and won't notice the horrid performance I guess. From launch to about year 5 you could have steady ok performance but it's getting exponentially worse now. I think it's reasonable to be able to run 2 EQIIs in extreme performance with zero lag, but it isn't happening.</p><p><cite>Aiyon@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Take a look at this post (its very large)...</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=444036" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=444036</a></p><p>This post talks about peoples system specs (old to new) and how they are perfoming.  One thing to always remember with EQ2 a single core CPU such as 3.6GHz is better then a quad core 2.0GHz.</p></blockquote>

[Alex66]

<p>I am 100% with the original poster. There is no excuse for this crappy and deteriorating performance after so many years from launch. Latest video drivers from nVidia make the game unplayable unless you enjoy slide-shows, you have to roll back to pre-october release to play EQ2 now. And its still single-core. What a mess.</p><p>Besides, I am also 3-boxing, although my setup is on two PCs (desktop PC for main char and decent gaming laptop for two slaves).  I do remember there was a time this year (I think in May-June) when EQ2 was running at 40-50 FPS on my main PC at excellent quality settings and I was very happy since I could play in stereo-3d mode for main character and still got around 30 FPS.  Since July it went down the hill very rapidly.</p><p>I do have to use latest nVidia drivers because they are optimized for Skyrim and Batman AC in stereo-3d, but they render EQ2 in 15 FPS non-3d  now, and circa 8-10 FPS in s3d. Quite a hit, huh? /Sigh</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p>Performance shouldn't be that affected with the expansion outside of increased memory usage (bigger game, more assets).</p><p>We need to identify where the performance issue is coming from and its not just the increase in assets, thats not how it works, and nothing has been fundamentally changed in the way the game works or how the engine renders.</p><p>The game does support multicore processors and I think you are misunderstanding what the previous poster meant by a faster single core is better than a slow dual core.  The point is simply you want the highest clock speeds you can get regardless of how many cores it has.</p><p>The latest Nvidia drivers also haven't caused any problems in my own testing but every setup is unique so feel free to post your DXDIAG and we may be able to make recommendations.</p>

[Morgania434]

<p>I refuse to give you my computer information since the game ran perfectly fine UNTIL gu62.</p><p>That tells me - it IS NOT my system. </p><p>It is SOE's Programming.</p><p>You can ban me or whatever.  I'm upset that everytime there is an issue after updates, it's always the Customers system.</p><p>Everyone's performance is affected. PERIOD.</p><p>I used to be able to use my computer at work to at least zone in and out of houseing and the guild hall to decorate. Now i log into 1 (YES ONE) fps. then oom 7 error screens pop up.</p><p>1 fps in my qeynos harbor house that has 133 items in it is just mind boggling.</p>

[TSR-JoshuaM]

<p><cite>Morgania434 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I refuse to give you my computer information since the game ran perfectly fine UNTIL gu62.</p><p>That tells me - it IS NOT my system. </p><p>It is SOE's Programming.</p><p>You can ban me or whatever.  I'm upset that everytime there is an issue after updates, it's always the Customers system.</p><p>Everyone's performance is affected. PERIOD.</p><p>I used to be able to use my computer at work to at least zone in and out of houseing and the guild hall to decorate. Now i log into 1 (YES ONE) fps. then oom 7 error screens pop up.</p><p>1 fps in my qeynos harbor house that has 133 items in it is just mind boggling.</p></blockquote><p>I am technical support representative, thats what I do, I offer troubleshooting steps and I need to be on the same page with you as far as your system is concerned in order to do that.</p><p>If you refuse to give me your information, if I requested it, then I will not support you at all.  You won't be banned, I'll just direct you to open a support ticket and not respond to your posts.  Have a good day.</p>

[Morgania434]

<p>I didn't ask for help for me specifically.</p><p>I stated a fact that since the gu62, everyones performance is affected in a negative manner.  Which logically means that it's on SOE's end of things and not ours since we all don't have the exact same set up.  Trying to pinpoint the problem through our dxdiag files is a slow tedious way of going about identifying the problem, although probably helpful in the long run.</p><p>I hope at the same time they are getting flooded with all these support tickets they are also looking at what exactly they programmed in that could be the ROOT cause of the issue.</p><p>Can you point us in the direction of any post anywhere that says the min sys req's have now changed to 64bit/ 4 gig to run this game?  That would be most helpful ( no i'm not being snarky here, i'm being serious.)  That way I can post the link in our guild forums to help out those who wish to try the game out to know what they need to run it.</p>

[Alex66]

<p>The performance of EQ2 sucks.  Period.</p>