Laucher Update??

[Seesons]

<p>When will the new launcher go live today?</p>

[Dawkitty]

<p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=11500033870#11500239684" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/stat...870#11500239684</a></p><p>Looks like 10 am pacific, possibly.</p>

[Thunderthyze]

<p><cite>Dawkitty wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=11500033870#11500239684" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/stat...870#11500239684</a></p><p>Looks like 10 am pacific, possibly.</p></blockquote><p>That would be 6pm GMT....</p><p>Let's call it tomorrow then</p>

[4evrnyt]

<p>10:48 am p.s.t    No update.  Fail timer is at 48 minutes and counting.</p>

[Seesons]

<p>10am pst has come and gone.  </p><p>Looks like LP4 looks exactly like LP3.... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Isard]

<p>And LP1...</p>

[Alenna]

<p><cite>Malificant@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>And LP1...</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=509858" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=509858</a></p><p>12pm pst now</p>

[Beagley]

<p>Its 12:00 PM PST according to the official news section for US and international servers.  A little vague stating anyone on LP1 or Station Launcher "by 6th Dec"?</p><p>edit - misread the post on international servers</p>

[Mookachooka]

<p>12pm PST has been and gone now too... still dont see any update...</p>

[Phaedrella]

<p>Ugh, this game is like that friend or relative who's <em>almost always</em> late.</p>

[Nerolathe]

<p><cite>Phaedrella wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ugh, this game is like that friend or relative who's <em><span style="text-decoration: line-through;">almost</span> always</em> late.</p></blockquote><p>fixed</p><p>Seriously tho, where are you hiding Mr.NewLaunchPad?</p>

[Lempo]

<p>What difference does it make if it is late or not, the only thing that is going to happen when it does get here are that you are going to lose some features, and get a butt ugly UI to launch the game. The probably found a lot of bugs and issues with the "1 day" (lol) beta test of it.</p>

[Phaedrella]

<p>I was hoping to do a fresh install.</p>

[4evrnyt]

<p>12:37 pst  If they have this much trouble just getting the launch pad to update I can only imagine how much fun the AoD update will be.</p>

[Phaedrella]

<p>Beastlords ran off with the hamsters.</p>

[Oceku]

<p><cite>Phaedrella wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ugh, this game is like that friend or relative who's <em>almost always</em> late.</p></blockquote><p>They aren't always late, look at when the servers go down!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

[sundrop]

<p><cite>4evrnyt wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>12:37 pst  If they have this much trouble just getting the launch pad to update I can only imagine how much fun the AoD update will be.</p></blockquote><p>Launchpad was done by a different department.</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/station/forums/show.m?forum_id=200">http://forums.station.sony.com/stat....m?forum_id=200</a></p><p>*Something tells me this is NOT the launchpad department's fault. </p>

[millie]

<p>Hmm, 5pm US EST, no new launcher no comment I can see from SOE. </p><p>Not very impressive.</p>

[Wirewhisker]

<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=509866�" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...66�</a></p><p>I suspect that's what's holding up the game for many folks, including myself until I was enlightened.</p>

[Lempo]

<p><cite>millie wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hmm, 5pm US EST, no new launcher no comment I can see from SOE. </p><p>Not very impressive.</p></blockquote><p>I don't know what you are doing, maybe you have the old original station launcher but if you had a better level of reading comprehension (or perhaps were a bit more diligent) you would know that the old station launcher doesn't work yet.</p><p>If you are using the new Launchpad and close it and reopen mine auto updated, I am verifying files but so far it has been seamless as far as the upgrade goes.</p><p>The color scheme is ugly, and there is no way to access test server from it (of course this comes as no surprise all things considered) but it is there and was at 5:08 EST for me.</p>

[SisterTheresa]

<p><cite>Lempo@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>millie wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hmm, 5pm US EST, no new launcher no comment I can see from SOE. </p><p>Not very impressive.</p></blockquote><p>I don't know what you are doing, maybe you have the old original station launcher but if you had a better level of reading comprehension (or perhaps were a bit more diligent) you would know that the old station launcher doesn't work yet.</p><p>If you are using the new Launchpad and close it and reopen mine auto updated, I am verifying files but so far it has been seamless as far as the upgrade goes.</p><p>The color scheme is ugly, and there is no way to access test server from it (of course this comes as no surprise all things considered) but it is there and was at 5:08 EST for me.</p></blockquote><p>Indeed let's insult people, that's the BEST way to get things done! ... /sarcasm.</p><p>For those who don't have the new launcher in any form (like me off old CDs) you can wait til the 6th when SoE said you will be updated OR you can go here:  <a href="http://launch.soe.com/eq2/">http://launch.soe.com/eq2/</a> and download the launcher which will auto update once installed.</p>

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[millie]

<p>Found it thanks. (trolls excluded).</p><p>Yep its ugly and keeps chewing resources to show continuous adds even when I have logged into the game.  It also forgets what screen it should launch on.</p><p>Also I can not now launch the game from the .exe gives some sort of mythical error about not finding game resources on a non-existant G: drive. </p><p>Anyone know how to fix that?</p>

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[Ilovecows]

<p>They need to go back to the old launch pad where you selected your game and then could click what player you want to play on.  It is annyong having to go to the login screen when I know what toon I want to play :/</p>

[kahonen]

<p>Well I just updated manually using the link given and it installed fine.  Just make sure you install into the current directory and ignore references to it displaying AoD graphics, when it starts it displays DoV graphics for the first couple of screens.</p><p>I did a 100% check of the installation and it was much faster than the original (very old) one.  The few files it needed to download seemed to be very quick as well.</p><p>What really worried me was any effect it would have on ProfitUI but I've just spent half an hour in-game and couldn't see any problems.</p><p>I could select EU region no probs and there is a link to test server on mine (in the same drop down menu).</p><p>So far, I'm impressed - for the time it's on screen I couldn't give a monkeys about the colour scheme or the scrolling adverts.  OK, it will be an improvement when they add character select to it but the real test is did it get me into the game, and yes it did.</p><p>As far as losing chat goes, if you want to be able to chat to people outside of the game, Skype is free to download, so is Ventrilo and Team Speak. It doesn't really surprise me that SOE removed this functionality as it appears widely open to abuse.</p><p>I wasn't happy about the launcher changing but credit where it's due, it installed easily and did the job.</p>

[Labe]

<p>Everyhting worked perfectly well until...this new launcher.</p><p>Nice work guys, I've got the automatic upgrade and...now as soon as I start my launcher...I've got a beautiful crash.</p><p>/clap</p>

[millie]

<p><cite>kahonen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well I just updated manually using the link given and it installed fine.  Just make sure you install into the current directory and ignore references to it displaying AoD graphics, when it starts it displays DoV graphics for the first couple of screens.</p><p>I did a 100% check of the installation and it was much faster than the original (very old) one.  The few files it needed to download seemed to be very quick as well.</p><p>What really worried me was any effect it would have on ProfitUI but I've just spent half an hour in-game and couldn't see any problems.</p><p>I could select EU region no probs and there is a link to test server on mine (in the same drop down menu).</p><p>So far, I'm impressed - for the time it's on screen I couldn't give a monkeys about the colour scheme or the scrolling adverts.  OK, it will be an improvement when they add character select to it but the real test is did it get me into the game, and yes it did.</p><p>As far as losing chat goes, if you want to be able to chat to people outside of the game, Skype is free to download, so is Ventrilo and Team Speak. It doesn't really surprise me that SOE removed this functionality as it appears widely open to abuse.</p><p>I wasn't happy about the launcher changing but credit where it's due, it installed easily and did the job.</p></blockquote><p>Unless you are explicitly minimising it to the task bar it will be imposing a load on your computer loading and scrolling those adds.  On my system its using 40% of one cores capacity doing it.  Minimising it drops that to near zero.</p>

[Atini]

<p>I must be using an old launcher, because mine didn't update. I clicked on the link provided, and it downloaded a new streaming client in a completely different place than my EQ is located at.. I don't want to wait for all of those zones to reload again, and I don't want to wait for EQ to redownload the entire game either. I guess I will wait until the 6th for the update.</p><p>edit.. clicking check for updates on the launcher itself claims I am currently using the most recent.. obviously, that isn't true.</p>

[kahonen]

<p><cite>millie wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>kahonen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well I just updated manually using the link given and it installed fine.  Just make sure you install into the current directory and ignore references to it displaying AoD graphics, when it starts it displays DoV graphics for the first couple of screens.</p><p>I did a 100% check of the installation and it was much faster than the original (very old) one.  The few files it needed to download seemed to be very quick as well.</p><p>What really worried me was any effect it would have on ProfitUI but I've just spent half an hour in-game and couldn't see any problems.</p><p>I could select EU region no probs and there is a link to test server on mine (in the same drop down menu).</p><p>So far, I'm impressed - for the time it's on screen I couldn't give a monkeys about the colour scheme or the scrolling adverts.  OK, it will be an improvement when they add character select to it but the real test is did it get me into the game, and yes it did.</p><p>As far as losing chat goes, if you want to be able to chat to people outside of the game, Skype is free to download, so is Ventrilo and Team Speak. It doesn't really surprise me that SOE removed this functionality as it appears widely open to abuse.</p><p>I wasn't happy about the launcher changing but credit where it's due, it installed easily and did the job.</p></blockquote><p>Unless you are explicitly minimising it to the task bar it will be imposing a load on your computer loading and scrolling those adds.  On my system its using 40% of one cores capacity doing it.  Minimising it drops that to near zero.</p></blockquote><p>Why would you leave the launcher open After EQ2 has loaded?  That seems to be a problem with the way you use your PC as opposed to the way the launcher has been implemented.</p>

[millie]

<p><cite>kahonen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>millie wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>kahonen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Well I just updated manually using the link given and it installed fine.  Just make sure you install into the current directory and ignore references to it displaying AoD graphics, when it starts it displays DoV graphics for the first couple of screens.</p><p>I did a 100% check of the installation and it was much faster than the original (very old) one.  The few files it needed to download seemed to be very quick as well.</p><p>What really worried me was any effect it would have on ProfitUI but I've just spent half an hour in-game and couldn't see any problems.</p><p>I could select EU region no probs and there is a link to test server on mine (in the same drop down menu).</p><p>So far, I'm impressed - for the time it's on screen I couldn't give a monkeys about the colour scheme or the scrolling adverts.  OK, it will be an improvement when they add character select to it but the real test is did it get me into the game, and yes it did.</p><p>As far as losing chat goes, if you want to be able to chat to people outside of the game, Skype is free to download, so is Ventrilo and Team Speak. It doesn't really surprise me that SOE removed this functionality as it appears widely open to abuse.</p><p>I wasn't happy about the launcher changing but credit where it's due, it installed easily and did the job.</p></blockquote><p>Unless you are explicitly minimising it to the task bar it will be imposing a load on your computer loading and scrolling those adds.  On my system its using 40% of one cores capacity doing it.  Minimising it drops that to near zero.</p></blockquote><p>Why would you leave the launcher open After EQ2 has loaded?  That seems to be a problem with the way you use your PC as opposed to the way the launcher has been implemented.</p></blockquote><p>Because it stays open?</p><p>So you either click the little "X" or the little "_" to make it go away!</p><p>By the way I tried a little experiment, I went into my control panel and uninstalled flash.  Restarted the computer and restarted the launcher.</p><p>Expected outcomes: Crash or reinstall of Flash.</p><p>Actual outcome LaunchPad CPU usage dropped by a facto of 4 (40% core load to 10% core load).</p><p>Also memory footprint dropped about 15k.</p>

[LoneGreyWolf20]

<p>Does anyone else's new Launchpad seem to download like 50 some MBs, then stop for like 5 minutes, then download 50 more MBs, then stop?</p><p>Mine is doing exactly that and it's not downloading the game client straight through, but rather this starting and stopping.</p>

[Mystfit]

<p>I"m not sure I like the fact it's running two differet taks...It makes another thing to tab through and what not when multi-tasking plus seems unneeded..every once in a blue moon I wsih I hadn't lcicked play and had checked out a link or two before losing that lanucher screen but not enough to want it up and open 100% of the time. I"d prefer an option that allows me to ave it close once i begin playing.</p>

[LoneGreyWolf20]

<p><cite>Mystfit wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I"m not sure I like the fact it's running two differet taks...It makes another thing to tab through and what not when multi-tasking plus seems unneeded..every once in a blue moon I wsih I hadn't lcicked play and had checked out a link or two before losing that lanucher screen but not enough to want it up and open 100% of the time. I"d prefer an option that allows me to ave it close once i begin playing.</p></blockquote><p>Not sure I like that either. I started playing Lineage II today and the launcher also stays up when playing the game.</p>

[Ilovecows]

<p>I'm a little confused as to why a new launcher was made.  It seems all they did to me was change the graphics and make it so that the launcher doesn't auto close when the game launches (which annoys me, there better be a way to disable that).  They could have added something new and useful, like they used to have, letting you go straight from the launcher to your character.  why did they get rid of this?  they had it before, they can put it back.</p>

[Arianah]

<p><cite>Atini wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I must be using an old launcher, because mine didn't update. I clicked on the link provided, and it downloaded a new streaming client in a completely different place than my EQ is located at.. I don't want to wait for all of those zones to reload again, and I don't want to wait for EQ to redownload the entire game either. I guess I will wait until the 6th for the update.</p><p>edit.. clicking check for updates on the launcher itself claims I am currently using the most recent.. obviously, that isn't true.</p></blockquote><p>Don't want to cross post, but I know there are a few threads going on about this and so it might get missed and I just want to help <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=180&topic_id=509773" target="_blank">Help with converting Station Launcher to New LaunchPad Manually</a></p>

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[kahonen]

<p><cite>Gaealiege@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">*edited to remove forum violation*</span></p></blockquote><p>Maybe the launcher stays open as an option to allow for streaming content.  Hard to see what is gonna do that if the launcher doesn't.</p><p>If you don't use the streaming option, you'll find a little <strong>x</strong> at the top corner of the screen, click that and apparently the launcher closes.</p><p>I've tried really hard but I can't see how this comes even close to a work-around.</p>

[Gaealiege]

<p>The workaround was installing the new launcher from the original one.</p><p>The launcher remaining open is still a blatant design flaw, regardless of your ability to close it.</p><p>It would be like having your trunk hood pop open each time you turn on your car.  Sure you can go close it, but it's certainly really da** annoying.</p>

[millie]

<p><cite>Gaealiege@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The workaround was installing the new launcher from the original one.</p><p>The launcher remaining open is still a blatant design flaw, regardless of your ability to close it.</p><p>It would be like having your trunk hood pop open each time you turn on your car.  Sure you can go close it, but it's certainly really da** annoying.</p></blockquote><p>It doesnt even need to close, just not consume CPU while its sitting idle.  It would be nice if it had an option to minimise to the taskbar on game launch, but just not consuming so many clock cycles would be OK.</p>

[Resstful]

<p><cite>Gaealiege@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #cae0e6; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;"><blockquote><p style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #ffcc00;">*edited to remove forum violation*</span></p><div><span style="color: #ffcc00;"></span></div></blockquote></span></p></blockquote><p>Station Launcher also remains open in the background and has always remained open in the background.</p><p>I've used Station Launcher since it was introduced as it was a perfect method to send messages to family in game from work.  I will miss that option but times change and one launcher instead of three is just one practical approach to cleaning up code.</p><p>What's wrong with hiring people straight from high school? They may be quite talented and show an interest in working unlike many people in this world.</p>

[Dreyco]

<p><cite>Resstful wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gaealiege@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #cae0e6; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;"><blockquote><p style="font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="color: #ffcc00;">*edited to remove forum violation*</span></p><div><span style="color: #ffcc00;"></span></div></blockquote></span></p></blockquote><p>Station Launcher also remains open in the background and has always remained open in the background.</p><p>I've used Station Launcher since it was introduced as it was a perfect method to send messages to family in game from work.  I will miss that option but times change and one launcher instead of three is just one practical approach to cleaning up code.</p><p>What's wrong with hiring people straight from high school? They may be quite talented and show an interest in working unlike many people in this world.</p></blockquote><p>There is nothing wrong with the launcher remaining open at all, so long as it doesn't devour your CPU alive while it's open.  LP4 does.  DanKinney recognizes this though it looks like.  Hopefully he gets it fixed. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

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[feldon30]

<p><cite>Gaealiege@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">*edited to remove forum violation*</span></p></blockquote><p>A lot of people used Station Launcher because it kept their game up-to-date while they were at work so when they came home, it's ready to play instead of needing to patch first.</p><p>Also Station Launcher gives you access to US Live, EU Live, and Test on 1 patcher.</p><p>Also Station Launcher has in-game voice and in-game text chat even if you have been booted from the game or just can't login right now.</p> <p><cite>Gaealiege@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">*edited to remove forum violation*</span></p></blockquote><p>There are plenty of things to be mad about, but good God people do you have to be a total nasty human being? The reason why the launcher stays open is because many people multi-box or play in different regions. I'm sure they will add a checkbox to close the launcher after starting EQ2.</p>

[Gaealiege]

<p>I can't imagine when download times are ever a problem.  I've never seen a download for EQ2 take more than 5 minutes.  If you need to run your launcher while at work to shore up a download, you might want to reconsider your connection speed.</p><p>Talking to people in-game out of game is useless.  I'm sure people love the idea of EQ2 Instant Messenger though.</p><p>I don't know what to say for the ability to switch between US, EU, and test.  Never met a player that switches between anything but live servers that are English-based.</p><p>And yes, I reserve the right to be nasty.  It's part of the agreement SOE signs each time they accept a dollar from me.</p>

[Felynx]

<p>You seem to forget that there are other folks who play this game besides you. Some of these folks may even place some value on the things you describe as useless.</p>

[Gaealiege]

<p>You mean similar to how raiders value raiding, but instead they wasted development time creating a new useless launcher rather than fixing multi-month old bugs.  Instead they fixed an un-bugged, perfectly working launcher and ignored many other glaring issues.</p><p>You mean those type of issues that affect "other folks?"</p>

[Matia]

<p>The launcher is done by folks other than the game devs, or you might have a valid stance. So the change to the launcher had no impact on time spent for raids, dungeons, etc, etc.</p>

[Gaealiege]

<p>Ah, it's done by a launcher only team.  I see. </p>

[Felynx]

<p>Useless launcher? Well, that is your opinion. It works fine for me. This game had what... five different launchers? Seems to make perfect sense that they would consolidate. There seems to be a resource issue with the launcher remaining open whilst in game, but it looks as if that is being remedied. In any case, that wasn't a problem for me at least. My system seems to be able to handle the additional load.</p><p>The "other folks" I referred to may very well place value upon the new launcher. They may also place value on the new release tomorrow. My point is, there are differing viewpoints and it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to <strong>rudely</strong> insult folks who don't share your opinions. It is also considered poor form to <strong>rudely</strong> insult the developers who deliver this game to you. </p><p>Constructive criticism is a wonderful thing:</p><p><a href="http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/comm440-540/criticism.htm">http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/com...0/criticism.htm</a></p><p>Emotional Intelligence is another gem:</p><p><a href="http://psychology.about.com/od/personalitydevelopment/a/emotionalintell.htm">http://psychology.about.com/od/pers...ionalintell.htm</a></p>

[Jrral]

<p><cite>Gaealiege@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ah, it's done by a launcher only team.  I see. </p></blockquote><p>Actually it's done by the Platform team, who're also responsible for things like the Web site, the account management system and so on. And Platform handles those things across all games, not just EQ2. So the new launchpad may be a side-effect of adding things that'll be needed for other games, and EQ2 got it not because it was needed for EQ2 but because the Platform team's trying to keep one launchpad across all games instead of maintaining half-a-dozen different launcher programs.</p>