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Calthine

11-10-2011, 03:25 PM

DON'T PANIC! It's really happening and it's not as bad as you might think. ZAM got to sit down with Dave Georgeson and get the details as SOE merges the two EQ2 services.<a href="eq2.zam.com/story.html?story=28211" target="_blank"><a href="http://eq2.zam.com/story.html?story=28211" target="_blank">Read all about it at ZAM!</a></a>Join us in ZAM IRC Chat if you'd like to talk about it! Instructions are <a href=" http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/IRC" target="_blank">here</a>, or you can use <a href="http://eq2wire.com/zamchat/" target="_blank">EQ2 Wire's web portal</a>.

Lodrelhai

11-10-2011, 04:55 PM

Only things I'm wondering:1) what about players of both EQ2 and EQ2X who have all their purchased character slots filled on both services? Are they going to have to whittle down their character #s/buy more slots, or will the available slots of both games be added to each other?2) will we now be allowed to move characters between Freeport server/Exchange servers and other EQ2 servers?

TalisX1

11-10-2011, 05:09 PM

<cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote>Only things I'm wondering:1) what about players of both EQ2 and EQ2X who have all their purchased character slots filled on both services? Are they going to have to whittle down their character #s/buy more slots, or will the available slots of both games be added to each other?2) will we now be allowed to move characters between Freeport server/Exchange servers and other EQ2 servers?</blockquote>1) Still no answer on this. They probably have not decided themselves yet.2) Yes.Silat

Ashlanne

11-10-2011, 05:15 PM

<cite>TalisX1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote>Only things I'm wondering:1) what about players of both EQ2 and EQ2X who have all their purchased character slots filled on both services? Are they going to have to whittle down their character #s/buy more slots, or will the available slots of both games be added to each other?2) will we now be allowed to move characters between Freeport server/Exchange servers and other EQ2 servers?</blockquote>1) Still no answer on this. They probably have not decided themselves yet.2) Yes.Silat</blockquote>Hi TalisX1,Smokejumper touched on this subject in this thread. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=509050#5655390" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...=509050#5655390</a>

TalisX1

11-10-2011, 05:18 PM

SJ from other thread:If you purchased character slots, you'll still have them. No worries.The only tricky bit is if you purchased character slots on *both* EQII Live and EQ2X servers (only a handful of people did this). In that case, you will still get all the slots you had purchased. Here's an example for clarity:<ul><li>You purchased four slots on AB. (7 + 4 = 11 total slots)</li><li>You then purchased five slots on Freeport. (7 + 5 = 12 total slots) </li><li>Then after the free-to-play conversion, you would have (7 + 4 + 5 = 16) slots available at your disposal when you log in.</li></ul>Me:Touched yes. Answered directly no.I take it to mean you are losing access to your characters but that was not stated directly.SilatEditted to add SJ's Comment.

Ashlanne

11-10-2011, 05:21 PM

<div>He answers your question right here in what I've bolded <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you purchased character slots, you'll still have them. No worries.The only tricky bit is if you purchased character slots on *both* EQII Live and EQ2X servers (only a handful of people did this). In that case, you will still get all the slots you had purchased. Here's an example for clarity:<ul><li>You purchased four slots on AB. (7 + 4 = 11 total slots)</li><li>You then purchased five slots on Freeport. (7 + 5 = 12 total slots)</li><li>Then after the free-to-play conversion, you would have (7 + 4 + 5 = 16) slots available at your disposal when you log in.</li></ul></blockquote></div>

TalisX1

11-10-2011, 05:23 PM

That does not quite answer it.Example:Currently I have 7 characters on live and 7 on extended. I purchased 0 extra slots on either.According to the above logic after the merge I will be unable to access 7 of my charaters.Since his math was 7 + purchased slots + purchased slots. Not 7 + 7 + purchased slots + purchased slots.Silat

Lodrelhai

11-10-2011, 05:26 PM

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote><div>He answers your question right here in what I've bolded <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /><cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you purchased character slots, you'll still have them. No worries.The only tricky bit is if you purchased character slots on *both* EQII Live and EQ2X servers (only a handful of people did this). In that case, you will still get all the slots you had purchased. Here's an example for clarity:<ul><li>You purchased four slots on AB. (7 + 4 = 11 total slots)</li><li>You then purchased five slots on Freeport. (7 + 5 = 12 total slots)</li><li>Then after the free-to-play conversion, you would have (7 + 4 + 5 = 16) slots available at your disposal when you log in.</li></ul></blockquote></div></blockquote>Of course, if you filled those 11 slots on AB and those 12 on Freeport, you'll have 16 slots for 23 characters. Which is what I was asking. Time to calculate how many free slots I actually have.

Ashlanne

11-10-2011, 05:37 PM

Gold Members Get 7 Charcters slotsSilver get 4Free Get 2If you have more then these here are your options when the merges happen...<ul><li>Log in as your favorite characters right before the server merges so that they are at the top of your character queue list. </li><li>If you want more character slots, you will need to purchase them in the Marketplace. </li></ul>And again if you purchased character slots to make to so you are above the numbers I listed you get to keep those slots.Thank you.

TalisX1

11-10-2011, 05:41 PM

agentsix

11-10-2011, 05:44 PM

Calthine

11-10-2011, 05:50 PM

Here's my outstanding question:Will former Extended Players get Veteran's Rewards now that they will be, essentially, Live players instead?

TalisX1

11-10-2011, 05:51 PM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>Here's my outstanding question:Will former Extended Players get Veteran's Rewards now that they will be, essentially, Live players instead?</blockquote>Already answered. Yes.Silat

Crickett

11-10-2011, 05:54 PM

Interesting, I'll say that.As far as I know, this is the first time since 1999 that SOE actually spoke about a "possible" game-changer "before" an expansion came out. (anyway, that I am aware of)I have a wait and see attitude, but I give Smokejumper and SOE credit for honesty and consideration given in this communication in a timely manner.I'm more pleased about that^ then any changes that may or may not occur ingame.'Course I'm older than dirt and these things matter to me.

thewarriorpoet

11-10-2011, 05:55 PM

I would have switched to EQ2X had it not meant leaving my guildies and friends, so I never woried about this before. Since I am Live now, I will be Gold later. If I elaspe and drop to Silver what happens to my more then 4 characters? Do I loose access to them? Do they get deleted? Are they escentially grandfathered or treated as though I had purchased additional slots or something?Also the veteran question goes the other way too, will we loose vet rewards now? I can't image we would because effort was spent to add 8yr stuff but this IS soe and they've done nuttier stuff.Over all I think this merge is a grand idea.

TalisX1

11-10-2011, 05:57 PM

<cite>thewarriorpoet wrote:</cite><blockquote>I would have switched to EQ2X had it not meant leaving my guildies and friends, so I never woried about this before. Since I am Live now, I will be Gold later. If I elaspe and drop to Silver what happens to my more then 4 characters? Do I loose access to them? Do they get deleted? Are they escentially grandfathered or treated as though I had purchased additional slots or something?Also the veteran question goes the other way too, will we loose vet rewards now? I can't image we would because effort was spent to add 8yr stuff but this IS soe and they've done nuttier stuff.Over all I think this merge is a grand idea.</blockquote>You LOSE nothing when dropping from gold to bronze/silver. You do lose access to characters though based on allowed slots.Silat

Calthine

11-10-2011, 06:11 PM

<cite>TalisX1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>Here's my outstanding question:Will former Extended Players get Veteran's Rewards now that they will be, essentially, Live players instead?</blockquote>Already answered. Yes.Silat</blockquote>link? I like citations <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Ashlanne

11-10-2011, 06:11 PM

You lose access to the characters but they aren't gone...If you decide to upgrade the access to them comes back.

Calthine

11-10-2011, 06:12 PM

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote>You lose access to the characters but they aren't gone...If you decide to upgrade the access to them comes back.</blockquote>Or buy extra character slots. SOE hardly ever deletes any character info <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Cyliena

11-10-2011, 06:12 PM

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote>You lose access to the characters but they aren't gone...If you decide to upgrade the access to them comes back.</blockquote>Or you can purchase character slots to have access to them if you want to remain at Silver.edit: Srsly Calthine, get OUT OF MY HEAD! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Calthine

11-10-2011, 06:16 PM

<cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote>edit: Srsly Calthine, get OUT OF MY HEAD! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>JINX

Ashlanne

11-10-2011, 06:16 PM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote>edit: Srsly Calthine, get OUT OF MY HEAD! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>JINX</blockquote>You owe her a Coke <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Cyliena

11-10-2011, 06:18 PM

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote>edit: Srsly Calthine, get OUT OF MY HEAD! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>JINX</blockquote>You owe her a Coke <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I'll take a Pepsi or coffee, thanks! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" />

thewarriorpoet

11-10-2011, 06:20 PM

Thank you all for the quick responce. Which toons get locked down? Do I get to choose or is it random or in some order?Also, going from Gold to Silver loses bag slots, do those items get locked or go they go into overflow?

Cyliena

11-10-2011, 06:21 PM

<cite>thewarriorpoet wrote:</cite><blockquote>Thank you all for the quick responce. Which toons get locked down? Do I get to choose or is it random or in some order?Also, going from Gold to Silver loses bag slots, do those items get locked or go they go into overflow?</blockquote>Your most recently played toons will be the ones available. So if you have 10 slots but 12 toons then the last 10 toons you played will show up. (and if you wanted 12 then you could just buy 2 char slots)From my understanding you'll be able to pull the items out of locked bag/bank slots but not be able to put anything back in.

Calthine

11-10-2011, 06:21 PM

Cyliena

11-10-2011, 06:22 PM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>Traditionally the toons most recently logged into will show up. So log into your seven favorite toons, so they're on top.</blockquote>STOP THAT!/wanders off to a different forum <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Calthine

11-10-2011, 06:23 PM

<cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>Traditionally the toons most recently logged into will show up. So log into your seven favorite toons, so they're on top.</blockquote>STOP THAT!/wanders off to a different forum <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>I'm going, I'm going!

Nrgy

11-10-2011, 06:23 PM

<cite>Shouter@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote>Gold Members Get 7 Charcters slotsSilver get 4Free Get 2If you have more then these here are your options when the merges happen...<ul><li>Log in as your favorite characters right before the server merges so that they are at the top of your character queue list. </li><li>If you want more character slots, you will need to purchase them in the Marketplace. </li></ul>And again if you purchased character slots to make to so you are above the numbers I listed you get to keep those slots.Thank you.</blockquote>So you are going to force me to buy slots to be able to access my toons?First you tell me they are 2 different games.Now you make them 1 game.And I have to pay?</blockquote>^^ Thus the F2P model ... any questions?

thewarriorpoet

11-10-2011, 06:24 PM

Danke!<div><cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>Traditionally the toons most recently logged into will show up. So log into your seven favorite toons, so they're on top.</blockquote>STOP THAT!/wanders off to a different forum <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /><div></div></blockquote></div>LOL!

vexrm

11-10-2011, 06:28 PM

I pay for EQ2 by the year. It's cheaper. What happens to this subscription option?

Calthine

11-10-2011, 06:35 PM

There's some corrected fine print running around. Can anyone confirm that Age of Discovery will NOT include all previous content including Destiny of Velious?

Lodrelhai

11-10-2011, 06:37 PM

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote>Gold Members Get 7 Charcters slotsSilver get 4Free Get 2If you have more then these here are your options when the merges happen...<ul><li>Log in as your favorite characters right before the server merges so that they are at the top of your character queue list. </li><li>If you want more character slots, you will need to purchase them in the Marketplace. </li></ul>And again if you purchased character slots to make to so you are above the numbers I listed you get to keep those slots.Thank you.</blockquote>You know, a severe sale (I mean 50% or more) or limited number of free character slots would make this much easier to deal with. I'm not too bad off - I only have 4 characters on freeq, and I have a couple free slots on live. But my guild leader has 2 accounts, plus her partner's 1, and they've filled all slots in both live and freeq. That's going to be expensive as hell to merge without losing some alts.I also wouldn't mind discount server transfers - no sense having guilds on two servers if everyone can play together. But that's less urgent to me, since I'll still have access to the ones on the other server.

Cyliena

11-10-2011, 06:45 PM

<cite>vexrm wrote:</cite><blockquote>I pay for EQ2 by the year. It's cheaper. What happens to this subscription option?</blockquote>One of the things released said that Gold will be available in 1, 3, 6 and 12 month sub options, recurring or non-recurring. Bonus for recurring is 500 SC/month. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />

vexrm

11-10-2011, 06:47 PM

<cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>vexrm wrote:</cite><blockquote>I pay for EQ2 by the year. It's cheaper. What happens to this subscription option?</blockquote>One of the things released said that Gold will be available in 1, 3, 6 and 12 month sub options, recurring or non-recurring. Bonus for recurring is 500 SC/month. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Do you have a link? I'm honestly not seeing it and I could easily be blinded by the tsunami of information. (YAY! We have information now)

Cyliena

11-10-2011, 06:50 PM

<cite>vexrm wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>vexrm wrote:</cite><blockquote>I pay for EQ2 by the year. It's cheaper. What happens to this subscription option?</blockquote>One of the things released said that Gold will be available in 1, 3, 6 and 12 month sub options, recurring or non-recurring. Bonus for recurring is 500 SC/month. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Do you have a link? I'm honestly not seeing it and I could easily be blinded by the tsunami of information. (YAY! We have information now)</blockquote><a href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5028" target="_blank">Producer's Letter</a>, near the end of "Membership and Pricing Changes" section:<blockquote>Additionally, Gold memberships are no longer required to recur each month. We will have non-recurring memberships that you can purchase with Station Cash or real-world currency. Recurring and non-recurring Gold memberships will be available for 1, 3, 6, and 12-month durations. Recurring memberships are still available for those of us who don't like having to remember to pay each month, and recurring memberships also get the perk of a Station Cash bonus grant each month.</blockquote>Ok it doesn't mention the amount per month, I think I got confused by the 500SC change for Silver members. Either way, perk is a perk! Maybe a red name knows how much of a perk? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

vexrm

11-10-2011, 06:54 PM

Thank you! Another good question is if I had just gotten a year subscription (I have) will I get the bonus per month starting in december? I should go find the webcast thread and post there. Off to do that.

Cyliena

11-10-2011, 06:56 PM

Followup on the previous: found it, SJ said it is 500 SC/month: <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=90&topic_id=509050#5655352" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...=509050#5655352</a><cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vellandra wrote:</cite><blockquote>In the 'Producers Letter', it states:Recurring memberships are still available for those of us who don't like having to remember to pay each month, and recurring memberships also get the perk of a Station Cash bonus grant each month.However, this is not referenced on any of the other pages, such as the comparison between subscription types. Could we get some more information please? Is this intended or not?</blockquote>Yes. Recurring memberships get the bonus perk of a free 500SC grant each month.</blockquote><cite>vexrm wrote:</cite><blockquote>Thank you! Another good question is if I had just gotten a year subscription (I have) will I get the bonus per month starting in december? I should go find the webcast thread and post there. Off to do that.</blockquote>Yeah I'm not sure about that, hopefully they'll answer it in the web cast. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Lodrelhai

11-10-2011, 06:59 PM

<a href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Membership_Matrix_%28EQ2%29" target="_blank">Pricing Matrix</a>. At the bottom it shows station cash access, and says reoccurring Gold memberships will get 500 a month.More feedback from the guildies, though I doubt we'll get anything for this. Many of us copied characters to freeq to help friends get started there. Copying was more expensive than moving, with less stuff coming with. Is there going to be any sort of compensation for this, as that expense is now worthless? (Like I said, I'm not expecting anything, under the argument that "We did get the copy and over a year to use it and those characters will still be available on freeport server." But official word to bring back would be helpful.)

TalisX1

11-10-2011, 07:00 PM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>TalisX1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>Here's my outstanding question:Will former Extended Players get Veteran's Rewards now that they will be, essentially, Live players instead?</blockquote>Already answered. Yes.Silat</blockquote>link? I like citations <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><cite>SmokeJumper wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Marnus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I currently play on the freeport server(eq2x) and the AB server on live. I have copied several of my characters to eq2x , one of them just this past weekend. Had i known this announcement was going to happen, i wouldnt have spent the sc on the copy token-but more importantly, what will this mean for me when the 2 versions merge? will i have duplicate characters on the same server? Will the ones i have on eq2x be allowed the choice of which server to move to? I think this is a good idea to merge the two game types-one of the reason i copied characters to eq2x was to be able to play with a larger group of people, and not have to solo constantly-but i also dont want to log in on the day this happens and have my live characters be replaced by the extended characters, or vice/versa. Also, once they do merge, will the characters from eq2x get the veteran rewards tied into my eq2live account?</blockquote>Answers:<ul><li>As of today, the copy token has been removed from the marketplace. The good news is that the copy you just made will continue to exist on Freeport, so you have that character on AB *and* Freeport now.</li><li>Freeport will still exist after the free-to-play conversion. There's no merge for anyone unless you're currently playing on Vox or The Bazaar (Live Gamer servers).</li><li>Yes, Freeport characters now get veteran rewards, just like everyone else.</li></ul></blockquote>from<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=40&topic_id=509050�">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...509050�</a>Silat

yagsfan

11-10-2011, 07:37 PM

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote>Gold Members Get 7 Charcters slots<ul><li>If you want more character slots, you will need to purchase them in the Marketplace. </li></ul></blockquote>Ah...you answered my question...Was just wondering if extra character slots would still be available for purchase in the marketplace after all this takes place.I have a LOT of alter-egos...and I'm always adding more... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" />

Arrg

11-10-2011, 07:42 PM

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>There's some corrected fine print running around. Can anyone confirm that Age of Discovery will NOT include all previous content including Destiny of Velious? </blockquote>It will include up to SF, it will not include DOV. Those holding out hoping to get both, just got hammered.<a rel="nofollow" href="http://everquest2.com/get_the_game/buy_now" target="_blank">http://everquest2.com/get_the_game/buy_now</a>EverQuest II will transition to a "Free to Play" model concurrently with the launch of the Age of Discovery expansion pack. This means that all players will have access to EverQuest II through free and optional paid membership levels. All membership levels will provide players with access to game world content through the EverQuest II Sentinel's Fate expansion. Platinum-level subscribers will also have access to the EverQuest II Destiny of Velious expansion. For all other players, the EverQuest II Destiny of Velious and EverQuest II Age of Discovery expansions may be purchased separately.

Vinseth

11-10-2011, 08:16 PM

So I had copied a few toons to freeport which is now my home and was about to copy the rest. Will we be able to transfer to Freeport or off of Freeport and if so when?

Cyliena

11-10-2011, 08:26 PM

<cite>Vindorek@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>So I had copied a few toons to freeport which is now my home and was about to copy the rest. Will we be able to transfer to Freeport or off of Freeport and if so when?</blockquote>"When asked about server transfers, Dave said that "all shackles are off!" "<a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.zam.com/story.html?story=28211&storypage=2" target="_blank">http://eq2.zam.com/story.html?story...amp;storypage=2</a>

Mienecrot

11-10-2011, 08:38 PM

<cite>Shouter@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>So you are going to force me to buy slots to be able to access my toons?First you tell me they are 2 different games.Now you make them 1 game.And I have to pay?</blockquote>If it works like it has in the past, all of your characters are still there. To access any of them, you will need to know the exact spelling of their name.You would not be able to add any additional characters until you either bought enough slots to cover your existing characters plus 1 extra, OR, deleted a number of characters to free up one available open slot.Examples:1. To access a toon: You have 10 toons, but only 7 current available slots. You can access any of the 10 toons by camping to the specific character you want, but only the 7 most recently played show up on the selection menu. i.e. "/camp [character name] ".2. To add a toon: You have 10 toons, but only 7 current available slots, you can:<ul><li>Purchase 4 character slots - to give you 11 available slots -- 10 current toons + 1 free slot, or</li><li>Deleting 4 current characters - maintaining 7 character slots -- 6 current toons + 1 free slot, or</li><li>Some combination of purchase / delete to "free up" one slot.</li></ul>Obviously, it's been awhile since I've tried this -- so I've 'lined' out the above information as it is incorrect. Apologies for the bad info. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Cloudrat

11-10-2011, 08:41 PM

Something is wrong here, sounds like a math trick to me lol If I paid 35 bucks a piece to copy 4 toons to freeport and as long as I kept my live account active they were considered gold toons on freeport, even though the account was bronze. Now we are merging those toons with the bazaar, but in order to play them I now have to buy 4 slots?I am not sure you can spin this to make me think it is fair.

Cyliena

11-10-2011, 08:45 PM

<cite>Mienecrot@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>If it works like it has in the past, all of your characters are still there. To access any of them, you will need to know the exact spelling of their name.You would not be able to add any additional characters until you either bought enough slots to cover your existing characters plus 1 extra, OR, deleted a number of characters to free up one available open slot.Examples:1. To access a toon: You have 10 toons, but only 7 current available slots. You can access any of the 10 toons by camping to the specific character you want, but only the 7 most recently played show up on the selection menu. i.e. "/camp [character name] ".</blockquote>You haven't been able to do this since the inception of Extended.

Calthine

11-10-2011, 08:49 PM

<cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mienecrot@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>If it works like it has in the past, all of your characters are still there. To access any of them, you will need to know the exact spelling of their name.You would not be able to add any additional characters until you either bought enough slots to cover your existing characters plus 1 extra, OR, deleted a number of characters to free up one available open slot.Examples:1. To access a toon: You have 10 toons, but only 7 current available slots. You can access any of the 10 toons by camping to the specific character you want, but only the 7 most recently played show up on the selection menu. i.e. "/camp [character name] ".</blockquote>You haven't been able to do this since the inception of Extended.</blockquote>Right. When they put Character Slots on the Marketplace they closed that unintended feature.

screenid

11-10-2011, 08:50 PM

<cite>Cloudrat wrote:</cite><blockquote>Something is wrong here, sounds like a math trick to me lol If I paid 35 bucks a piece to copy 4 toons to freeport and as long as I kept my live account active they were considered gold toons on freeport, even though the account was bronze. Now we are merging those toons with the bazaar, but in order to play them I now have to buy 4 slots?I am not sure you can spin this to make me think it is fair.</blockquote> -- I paid to copy 5 toons over to Freeport at the very least that should equate to 5 additional slots if not 10 since it cost me more than double the amount of an additional toon slot.

Te'ana

11-10-2011, 10:55 PM

<cite>screenid wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cloudrat wrote:</cite><blockquote>Something is wrong here, sounds like a math trick to me lol If I paid 35 bucks a piece to copy 4 toons to freeport and as long as I kept my live account active they were considered gold toons on freeport, even though the account was bronze. Now we are merging those toons with the bazaar, but in order to play them I now have to buy 4 slots?I am not sure you can spin this to make me think it is fair.</blockquote> -- I paid to copy 5 toons over to Freeport at the very least that should equate to 5 additional slots if not 10 since it cost me more than double the amount of an additional toon slot. </blockquote>I agree and i don't have any toons on Freeport.

Katz

11-10-2011, 11:02 PM

That sounds fair to me. Equate the toon copy to a new slot having been purchased. I didn't copy a toon over but if I had of done so, I would want this to happen.

sirmoosealot

11-11-2011, 02:47 AM

ok i have one question that really isnt specified, i am a current subscriber and i purchased Destiny of Velious, so its saying for free members you only have free access to all expansions up to setinals fate. so what if im unable to stay a gold member because i cant afford it. so does that mean i lose access to the expansion destiny of velious that i payed for?

Crickett

11-11-2011, 02:56 AM

^ I'm thinking you'd be ok with that, I just started a F2P and my freeblood was already unlocked on it (so what I have I keep). You "might" have to unlock specific classes and such though. I wouldn't worry too much until the fat lady sings and we light the cigar though.My question is this:I've a few friends that cannot play due to financial constraints. They'd have access to play on their old servers (with free constraints)?and, New F2P'ers would have access to start characters on any server?Thanks

Calthine

11-11-2011, 03:17 AM

<cite>Nakitar@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>ok i have one question that really isnt specified, i am a current subscriber and i purchased Destiny of Velious, so its saying for free members you only have free access to all expansions up to setinals fate. so what if im unable to stay a gold member because i cant afford it. so does that mean i lose access to the expansion destiny of velious that i payed for?</blockquote>It's been stated that if you've already bought it, you keep it, regardless of Membership level. Destiny of Velious, Character Slots, Freeblood, or rez scrolls on Freeport (at least until you use them up).Smokejumper quotes, let's see:<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=509050&post_id=5656130" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...post_id=5656130</a><blockquote>once you purchase something, we're not taking it back. She'll definitely still have the freeblood available.</blockquote><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=509050&post_id=5656127" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...post_id=5656127</a><blockquote>You bought it, you keep it. We're not taking anything away.</blockquote>

BleemTeam

11-11-2011, 03:25 AM

How am I going to sell my plat after LG goes down?

Beregon

11-11-2011, 03:57 AM

Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify:If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits:1. If I purchased 2 extra character slots, I will have them so my max will be 2 or 4 + 22. If I already purchased DoV, I will have access to the content.3. If I already have the Freeblood available, I can still make a Freeblood toon.4. I will still have access to the money in my bank and access to any bags I have, but only to spend the money down until I am under the max for coin and remove items from the unaccessible bags.5. I am able to remove items I have on the broker for sale.6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon. (Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class)Thats all I can think of at the moment.

Cyliena

11-11-2011, 09:08 AM

Cyliena

11-11-2011, 09:14 AM

<cite>Beregon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify:If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits:1. If I purchased 2 extra character slots, I will have them so my max will be 2 or 4 + 22. If I already purchased DoV, I will have access to the content.3. If I already have the Freeblood available, I can still make a Freeblood toon.4. I will still have access to the money in my bank and access to any bags I have, but only to spend the money down until I am under the max for coin and remove items from the unaccessible bags.5. I am able to remove items I have on the broker for sale.6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon. (Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class)Thats all I can think of at the moment.</blockquote>1. Yes2. Yes3. Yes4. Yes5. Not sure, that one would be a better question for someone who has played on Extended6. That's what they made it sound like in the webcast. As a Free/Silver member you would most likely have to unlock the ability to play any races or classes that are not included as free. Once they are unlocked they will always be unlocked, even if (for example) you went to Gold then back down to Silver again. Here's <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/search.html?q=unlock%3A" target="_blank">a list of all races/classes</a> that could be unlocked on Extended.

agentsix

11-11-2011, 09:28 AM

<cite>Beregon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify:If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits:1. If I purchased 2 extra character slots, I will have them so my max will be 2 or 4 + 22. If I already purchased DoV, I will have access to the content.3. If I already have the Freeblood available, I can still make a Freeblood toon.4. I will still have access to the money in my bank and access to any bags I have, but only to spend the money down until I am under the max for coin and remove items from the unaccessible bags.5. I am able to remove items I have on the broker for sale.6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon. (Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class)Thats all I can think of at the moment.</blockquote>1. Yes2. Yes3. Yes4. Yes5. Yes6. Yes you will have to purchase the class. But if you buy a monthly sub you will not.The thing to remember is after this switch the monthly subs do not change. What you got before you will get after. The thing that changes is your access if you chose not to sub.For example, previously if you did not sub you could not play at all. Now, if you chose not to sub you could play a Barbarian Swashy for free but with restrictions.

Maisland

11-11-2011, 11:58 AM

<cite>yliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Beregon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify:If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits:6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon. (Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class)Thats all I can think of at the moment.</blockquote>6. That's what they made it sound like in the webcast. As a Free/Silver member you would most likely have to unlock the ability to play any races or classes that are not included as free. Once they are unlocked they will always be unlocked, even if (for example) you went to Gold then back down to Silver again. Here's <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/search.html?q=unlock%3A" target="_blank">a list of all races/classes</a> that could be unlocked on Extended.</blockquote>This is what I have been wondering. It looks like I would be unable to play any the vast majority of my characters if I let my subscription lapse to silver.I think a better deal would be just to not allow the creation of new characters of those classes/races rather than to lock existing ones. Might as well just not play... which would be the same as now if my subscription lapsed.Edit: I did a race/class graph chart for my (19) characters. If I had to let my subscription lapse to silver (very likely given the economy, and I had recently been thinking of allowing it to lapse for a few months as it is), I would be able to play 2 of my characters (provided that they were not on locked slots at the time)... all the rest are either a race, a class or both that are not available to a silver account. I would not be able to play my main (necromancer) or any of the secondary characters that I have been working on the hardest (dark elf, iksar, gnome mystic, sarnak shadowknight, wood elf ranger).Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership... so it would still be a case of might as well not bother to play at all if I had to let my subscription lapse.

Mermut

11-11-2011, 03:46 PM

<cite>Zarandar@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>yliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Beregon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify:If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits:6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon. (Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class)Thats all I can think of at the moment.</blockquote>6. That's what they made it sound like in the webcast. As a Free/Silver member you would most likely have to unlock the ability to play any races or classes that are not included as free. Once they are unlocked they will always be unlocked, even if (for example) you went to Gold then back down to Silver again. Here's <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/search.html?q=unlock%3A" target="_blank">a list of all races/classes</a> that could be unlocked on Extended.</blockquote>This is what I have been wondering. It looks like I would be unable to play any the vast majority of my characters if I let my subscription lapse to silver.I think a better deal would be just to not allow the creation of new characters of those classes/races rather than to lock existing ones. Might as well just not play... which would be the same as now if my subscription lapsed.Edit: I did a race/class graph chart for my (19) characters. If I had to let my subscription lapse to silver (very likely given the economy, and I had recently been thinking of allowing it to lapse for a few months as it is), I would be able to play 2 of my characters (provided that they were not on locked slots at the time)... all the rest are either a race, a class or both that are not available to a silver account. I would not be able to play my main (necromancer) or any of the secondary characters that I have been working on the hardest (dark elf, iksar, gnome mystic, sarnak shadowknight, wood elf ranger).Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership... so it would still be a case of might as well not bother to play at all if I had to let my subscription lapse.</blockquote>You can pay a small one-time fee to unlock whatever race/class the character you want to play is. It's much less then the sub fee and then you'll be able to play that toon whenever you want. You can't really expect them to give you full access to subbed account toons once you stop paying them. If you could, players would sub, get their characters where they wanted, unsub and never pay SoE another dime. That would certainly kill EQ2. If SoE stopped making money on EQ2, EQ2 would go away.

Catria

11-11-2011, 04:22 PM

<cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Vindorek@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>So I had copied a few toons to freeport which is now my home and was about to copy the rest. Will we be able to transfer to Freeport or off of Freeport and if so when?</blockquote>"When asked about server transfers, Dave said that "all shackles are off!" "<a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.zam.com/story.html?story=28211&storypage=2" target="_blank">http://eq2.zam.com/story.html?story...amp;storypage=2</a></blockquote>I'm happy we will be able to go to other servers. I would like to see all the chars from Bazaar and Vox get a free one-time transfer token so we can choose where we go, though, rather than just all being lumped onto Freeport and Nagafen.

Catria

11-11-2011, 05:17 PM

I have a question about the shared banks. If someone has characters on the Freeport server already, and their shared bank is full, what happens when their characters and shared bank from Bazaar get merged?

Wolfsbaine

11-11-2011, 05:33 PM

<cite>Lyssia@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have a question about the shared banks. If someone has characters on the Freeport server already, and their shared bank is full, what happens when their characters and shared bank from Bazaar get merged?</blockquote>I would suggest making a toon on freeport and moving the containers of stuff in the shared bank over to that toon. You could only carry 6/8 but I am sure you could find another toon to move the rest of the stuff too temporarily. Then you can sort it all out and determin what you want to keep

Maisland

11-12-2011, 05:59 AM

<cite>Mermut wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zarandar@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>yliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Beregon wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify:If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits:6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon. (Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class)Thats all I can think of at the moment.</blockquote>6. That's what they made it sound like in the webcast. As a Free/Silver member you would most likely have to unlock the ability to play any races or classes that are not included as free. Once they are unlocked they will always be unlocked, even if (for example) you went to Gold then back down to Silver again. Here's <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/search.html?q=unlock%3A" target="_blank">a list of all races/classes</a> that could be unlocked on Extended.</blockquote>This is what I have been wondering. It looks like I would be unable to play any the vast majority of my characters if I let my subscription lapse to silver.I think a better deal would be just to not allow the creation of new characters of those classes/races rather than to lock existing ones. Might as well just not play... which would be the same as now if my subscription lapsed.Edit: I did a race/class graph chart for my (19) characters. If I had to let my subscription lapse to silver (very likely given the economy, and I had recently been thinking of allowing it to lapse for a few months as it is), I would be able to play 2 of my characters (provided that they were not on locked slots at the time)... all the rest are either a race, a class or both that are not available to a silver account. I would not be able to play my main (necromancer) or any of the secondary characters that I have been working on the hardest (dark elf, iksar, gnome mystic, sarnak shadowknight, wood elf ranger).Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership... so it would still be a case of might as well not bother to play at all if I had to let my subscription lapse.</blockquote>You can pay a small one-time fee to unlock whatever race/class the character you want to play is. It's much less then the sub fee and then you'll be able to play that toon whenever you want. You can't really expect them to give you full access to subbed account toons once you stop paying them. If you could, players would sub, get their characters where they wanted, unsub and never pay SoE another dime. That would certainly kill EQ2. If SoE stopped making money on EQ2, EQ2 would go away.</blockquote>From what I have read, the fee is not that small, and considering that we are talking about 17 characters among which there are no class repeats and only one race repeat (and that only because I made one character as a place holder in hopes that someday othmir are made into a playable race), the fees would add up very quickly to way more than the monthly fee.Plus, there are other features of a subscription that would make people want to pay it, such as being able to equip legendary and fabled gear, more bag slots, no limit on money per character, the ability to sell on the broker, master level spells, etc....and as I mentioned in my post that you quoted: "Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership."I am not asking for full access if my subscription lapses, just to be allowed to log onto characters that I already have... maybe do some crafting. My main has some legendary gear, so even if I were allowed to log onto him at silver level, I couldn't really play him unless I got some lesser gear (maybe not even then). Not to mention that I have set up a house as a shop where all my characters can sell things... I would not expect that to be accessible at a silver level.Basically, if I had to let my subscription lapse, the result would be the same as it is now... I would not see any point to even logging in as only 2 of my lesser characters would be available... if they even end up on character slots that are not locked. Of course, if they are on locked slots I wouldn't even be able to log in at all to buy anything from the marketplace anyway.I have payed enough over the years that I have played that I don't think being allowed to always be able to log onto characters that I already have is asking too much. It would be a nice perk for long time subscribers to be allowed minimal access to all available characters on an account even if the subscription drops to silver level for a short time.Of course, I suppose I could plan on a permanent drop to silver level... purchase all the classes and races, starting with those of my existing characters... the way I bought all my current character slots. Then I really could stop paying anything. I would, of course, miss my broker slots, bag slots, bank slots, the unlimited money per character, etc... but at least I would not have to worry about having to come up with money to play ever again.Edit: Thinking about it, they could give out race/class unlocks in the veteran rewards for people who have been playing for x years for those who find themselves unable to pay for a month or two. That would certainly be a nice gesture in these uncertain times.

Katz

11-12-2011, 12:02 PM

<cite>Zarandar@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Edit: Thinking about it, they could give out race/class unlocks in the veteran rewards for people who have been playing for x years for those who find themselves unable to pay for a month or two. That would certainly be a nice gesture in these uncertain times.</blockquote>Now thats a nice idea. Add the unlocks to one of the later veteran rewards. Year 7 or 8 would be fine. I'm not there yet but it would be something to look forward to and would definitely reward those that were here since launch.

Maisland

11-12-2011, 12:58 PM

<cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zarandar@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Edit: Thinking about it, they could give out race/class unlocks in the veteran rewards for people who have been playing for x years for those who find themselves unable to pay for a month or two. That would certainly be a nice gesture in these uncertain times.</blockquote>Now thats a nice idea. Add the unlocks to one of the later veteran rewards. Year 7 or 8 would be fine. I'm not there yet but it would be something to look forward to and would definitely reward those that were here since launch.</blockquote>That had actually been my thought... year 7 or 8 would reward those playing (and paying) the longest. I am not quite there yet either, I just got my year 6 reward this year.I have a friend (also a 6 year veteran) who would be in a worse case than myself even though he has fewer characters than I do (or maybe because of that). He had bought some slots (actually, I gifted them to him) and all his slots are filled. He is currently unable to play and has been for several months.If he tried to come back to play as a silver account, he would be unable to log onto any of his characters because he has: a sarnak, 2 high elves, 3 ratongas, a dwarf, a wood elf, a fae and an erudite... but since the erudite is a necromancer, that character would also be locked (and some of his other characters are also classes that would lock them). His main is a ratonga wizard.Would he be expected to delete characters that he has worked on for years just so he could create a new alt with which to log in so he could access the marketplace to pay to unlock one of his remaining characters? He already deleted his 2 lowest level characters when he dropped from a station access account to a normal subscription and I know that he plans to buy more slots when he is able to come back so he could recreate those. In order to free up a slot as a silver account, he would have to delete 4 more characters.It would not be so bad if the button to buy slots on the character select screen actually worked or if the marketplace could be accessed online. Of course, even that would not help much since even the services you buy on the marketplace are items that you have to use as a character... and that would also make it impossible for someone else to gift things to a locked account.Edit: Another thought - They are grandfathering in character slots for people that had characters on both live and extended prior to November 10 so that none of their characters are locked when the change goes into effect. They could do something similar for those who have only ever played on live servers and grandfather in race/class unlocks for characters that have existed since [a certain date] (or they could even limit it to just subscribers who purchased either the original game or one or more of certain of the previous expansions) as a gesture of good will to long time customers.I would leave the details in question up to Sony's discretion, and really, this would only affect those whose accounts may lapse in the future, or those like my friend who return to the game solely because it is now free.Think about it... someone who left the game for one reason or another and comes back because it is now free to play... only to find that none of their characters can be played due to race and/or class. Does Sony really think that such a person would stay? That they would ever pay any more money ever again?

Arbreth

11-15-2011, 12:06 PM

I keep hearing about gold being grandfathered in and merged with the live accounts, but what about the silver, or even bronze? I myself have a silver account on EQ2X, my kids have bronze, but we all have live accounts. What will happen with those characters/accounts?

Maisland

11-15-2011, 03:54 PM

<cite>Arbreth wrote:</cite><blockquote>I keep hearing about gold being grandfathered in and merged with the live accounts, but what about the silver, or even bronze? I myself have a silver account on EQ2X, my kids have bronze, but we all have live accounts. What will happen with those characters/accounts?</blockquote>What I have read is that all live accounts will be converted to gold... as long as you pay your subscription. If you ever let your payments lapse, it will be downgraded to silver. Your EQX account will be merged with your live account. If you have characters on both live and EQX servers, then you will have bonus character slots grandfathered in based on the following formula:Total occupied slots (the slots must have characters in them to be considered in this formula) on both games prior to November 10 - 7 (base slots for a gold account) - slots bought on live - slots bought on EQX = total bonus slots.Your total character slots (on a gold account) will be: 7 + slots bought on live + slots bought on EQX + bonus slots from the formula above. You would lose access to 3 of those slots (i.e. they would be locked) if your account downgraded to silver until you either bought more slots or renewed your subscription.Edit: Oh, and since you had a live account, the conversion of the live account to gold (or silver if you let your payments lapse) will take precidence over whatever your EQX account status was.

Skaini

12-01-2011, 11:08 PM

cant realy seam to find an answer to my questions here goes.1 i am a guild leader to my guild now if i miss getting my gamecard by say a day or two can i still play once merged to f2p and not lose my guild (never played f2p so dont know how guilds work in it)2. i can still play my favorite toon (but only 2 of them right?) till i get to the store to by my game card and its like normal?3. thank you for your time *grins*

Cyliena

12-02-2011, 02:04 AM

<cite>Skaini@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>cant realy seam to find an answer to my questions here goes.1 i am a guild leader to my guild now if i miss getting my gamecard by say a day or two can i still play once merged to f2p and not lose my guild (never played f2p so dont know how guilds work in it)2. i can still play my favorite toon (but only 2 of them right?) till i get to the store to by my game card and its like normal?3. thank you for your time *grins*</blockquote>1. You won't lose your guild. If you play as a non-subscriber you may have to do one-time unlocks depending on your char's race and class.2. As I said on #1, you might have to do one-time unlocks. Only certain races and classes are part of the free portion. For example, the only toon I'd be able to play on a free account without unlocking is my Human Swashbuckler, as both that race and class are non-restricted to Silver members.Four free races included with Free and Silver Membership are: Human, Erudite, Barbarian and Half Elf. The Freeblood race is only available vie the Marketplace. Eight free classes included with Free and Silver Membership are: Swashbuckler, Brigand, Wizard, Warlock, Guardian, Berserker, Templar and Inquisitor. The Beastlord class is only available with the purchase of the <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Age_of_Discovery">Age of Discovery</a> expansion. <a href="http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Membership_Matrix_%28EQ2%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Membership_...atrix_%28EQ2%29</a>3. Wait, this isn't a question! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Fistantantilus

12-02-2011, 10:03 AM

guild related question. I am guild leader. Both my subs expire in like 3 months and after all this I am not planning on renewing, nor playing as silver because I cannot without paying soe money twice. paying them for 7 yrs for eq2 seems more than enough.What happens to the guild (was founded on 11/11/2004 so kinda lame to "vanish") and the other people in there if they choose to keep playin (which I doubt but ya)...the question is because if i stopped paying right now as a subscriber, the guild will be still there for the ppl who chose to keep playing. Even if i never subbed ever again.

Cyliena

12-02-2011, 11:10 AM

<cite>Phaerun@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>guild related question. I am guild leader. Both my subs expire in like 3 months and after all this I am not planning on renewing, nor playing as silver because I cannot without paying soe money twice. paying them for 7 yrs for eq2 seems more than enough.What happens to the guild (was founded on 11/11/2004 so kinda lame to "vanish") and the other people in there if they choose to keep playin (which I doubt but ya)...the question is because if i stopped paying right now as a subscriber, the guild will be still there for the ppl who chose to keep playing. Even if i never subbed ever again. </blockquote>Yes the guild would remain. The F2P transition doesn't change that at all. Though I would strongly suggest giving dual leadership to another person you really trust that is sticking around, just in case they want to change guild halls or some such.