Pre-Order EverQuest II - Age of Discovery Today! [Archive]

Isulith

11-10-2011, 12:28 AM

<img src="http://everquest2.com/images/en/features/articles/aodbeta/eqii_aod_logo.png" /> EverQuest II - Age of Discovery is now available for pre-order! This exciting new expansion to the world of Norrath will be released early December, 2011. <a href="http://www.everquest2.com/news/read/current/5026" target="_blank"><img src="http://everquest2.com/images/en/community/buttons/readmore.png" border="0" width="175" height="44" /></a>

wbmann

11-10-2011, 03:33 PM

Disregard, it's working now.How do we pre-order it, everytime I go to the preorder page, I get Destiny of Velious or a page about War of Zek with no pre-order option.thanks

Ashlanne

11-10-2011, 03:37 PM

<cite>wbmann wrote:</cite><blockquote>How do we pre-order it, everytime I go to the preorder page, I get Destiny of Velious or a page about War of Zek with no pre-order option.thanks</blockquote>Thanks for letting us know, we are looking into it now.

Calthine

11-10-2011, 03:38 PM

Bad link <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Your link is to the Velious expansion preorder info.<a href="http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5026" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://everquest2.com/news/read/current/5026</a>There's the good one.

wbmann

11-10-2011, 03:40 PM

Thank you, I have placed my pre-order. Can't wait!

CeJae

11-10-2011, 03:40 PM

$40? For what?I'll be canceling both of my accounts, good luck with your game.edit: Oh and by the way..AA Limit Increase<ul><li>The AA limit will be increased above the current limit of 300.</li></ul>You're asking people to buy something when they don't even know what they are getting? Increased by how many? Up to 325, 350, 400? 500? Ability to spend more in each current tree, or just a cap raise meaning they will be forced to spend AAs in the tradeskill tree?What a mess.

Ashlanne

11-10-2011, 03:40 PM

Fixed now. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Our Webpresense team is also fixing the issue with the Collector's edition price.Thank you all for your patience.

RadarX

11-10-2011, 03:41 PM

This post has moved: <a href="/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=483458&post_id=5655189" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=48345...post_id=5655189</a> Removed for Trolling

Alenna

11-10-2011, 03:45 PM

Sigh, unless I can get a pre paid visa gift card I guess I'm not going to be able to get Age of Discovery I do not use credit cards

Onorem

11-10-2011, 03:48 PM

Wow. Holy not worth buying unless you make the non-actually gameplay rewards so good that people feel like they have to buy it. Horrible, horrible launch.--edit--Your exit survey needs to be updated to allow an 'other' category to write in the explanation for leaving.

clairebear

11-10-2011, 04:11 PM

What the... $40 for the expansion?? Are you kidding??DOV, with all its updates, cost that amount, and now you're giving us unspecified AA increase, a new class (which surely should be available on marketplace), DYOD (which you don't know how many will use), reforging (which again there is little info on) and the ability to duo with a mercenary that apparently won't be as skilled as a normaly player..Seriously, with all the comments on this "expansion" in the forums, they should really have considered marketing it $20 - $30 absolute maximum.

Valonia

11-10-2011, 04:15 PM

So .. uhm .. maybe I'm blind or you are hiding it behind a javascript/flash wall I can't see through. But .. how does the cloak, beastlord warder and new home look?!You can't seriously expect me to dump 72$ (props for doing a fair currency translation for once!) into something I know nothing about.And about as important: Will we be able to buy AoD through the Marketplace?

Kamimura

11-10-2011, 04:17 PM

<cite>Valonia@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>So .. uhm .. maybe I'm blind or you are hiding it behind a javascript/flash wall I can't see through. But .. how does the cloak, beastlord warder and new home look?!You can't seriously expect me to dump 72$ (props for doing a fair currency translation for once!) into something I know nothing about.</blockquote>Seriously. More details, please. (I feel like I'm turning into a broken record these days...)Also... the price, compaired to what we got from other expansions. Ugh... and not enough details about what we're getting there, either.

dropdoff

11-10-2011, 04:18 PM

Very underwhelming.Another Cloak - YayAnother Robe - YayFlying Mount - Yay - Maybe have it so the run speed is the same as other land mounts - YayAnother House - Is it as ugly as the Everfrost Home?New Accounts Get Extra 30 Days - What about those who have been here awhile? I don't know something saying, "Hey, thanks for sticking with us." Padded Football helmet so when we bang our head against the wall.AA Limit - Undisclosed amount is really . . . really vague. Come on really?Unique Beastlord pet - That everyone else will have if they get the collectors addition.How about something better? One of the things I buy on the marketplace is vitality potions. How about throwing in a couple of those or XP potions. Just something that would be a nice little bonus. Something that doesn't require a lot of programming and is already in the game.Still even with that $40-$60 is still high for the little that is happening in this "expansion."

Kvanilya

11-10-2011, 04:18 PM

Can we get some info on these "perks" for the collector's edition please? I don't see this expansion being worth the same as the others as it isn't really an expansion at all but I at least want to give the benefit of doubt that some thought has been put into the collector's edition at least. Hopefully no more ridiculous looking robes.Also, with the ability to create dungeons, could there be the ability to create armors/clothing coming? Would love to see some clothing/armors that at least looked like it might be getting better looking or possible rediscovery of old patterns or something.

Hamervelder

11-10-2011, 04:20 PM

You've GOT to be kidding me! $40 for a few features? What SOE is offering is just a sliver of what past expansions have offered, for the same price. No thanks, I won't be purchasing this GU-disguised-as-an-expansion. There is absolutely not enough value in the "content" being offered to merit a $40 price tag. The fact that Smokejumper believes that this "expansion" is worth $40 is insulting, to be honest. It's also very telling on how out of touch he is.

Valentina

11-10-2011, 04:21 PM

Will the pre-order be available for SC on the marketplace?

Absyntheea

11-10-2011, 04:28 PM

How long is pre-order? Have you actually set a release date? Can we buy it with station cash? (probably not)As much as I (potentially) want the house, mount and special pet, (The dungeon creator items aren't even interesting) without details, there's no way I'm dropping $60 on the small amount of stuff that is in the new pac. I really don't think it's even worth the standard price. It seems like this one just got skimped on.

Chanaluss

11-10-2011, 04:32 PM

which version do Fan Faire attendees get?

Sharann

11-10-2011, 04:32 PM

Indeed before spending the money I'd like to see more info on the content, i.e. pictures of the Lavastorm house, the mount, AA lvl cap etc. We need details to be able to choose so hopefully those will be communicated very soon <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />

SgtPmpkn

11-10-2011, 04:33 PM

<cite>Absyntheea@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>How long is pre-order? Have you actually set a release date? Can we buy it with station cash? (probably not)</blockquote>1. Pre-order will probably be until launch or just before.2. Release date per the announcement is Nov 30th, 2011.3. I hope so, but most likely not.

Shaolin Sam

11-10-2011, 04:41 PM

<cite>dropdoff wrote:</cite><blockquote>New Accounts Get Extra 30 Days - What about those who have been here awhile? I don't know something saying, "Hey, thanks for sticking with us." Padded Football helmet so when we bang our head against the wall.</blockquote>Why would they even add that? They're going F2P lol.

Hirofortis

11-10-2011, 04:43 PM

<cite>Valentina@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>Will the pre-order be available for SC on the marketplace?</blockquote>+1 Would really like this to be available on the Marketplace. I could pre order teh collectors edition right now if you did this.

MystsofLedge12

11-10-2011, 04:48 PM

If we don't like what SOE is doing we can tell them with our Pocketbooks.... we don't buy the sub standard product they are selling us as an expansion of current gameing then they will listen.To call this an Expansion is false advertisementTo charge more than $15 is robbing a customer base that already pays per month.Ya I figure if i pay SOE my money every month they can Hear my Opinion.

vochore

11-10-2011, 04:52 PM

well heres hoping all the haters are wrong...just preordered the collectors edition for my long awaited beastlord.

Jazx

11-10-2011, 05:06 PM

Any word on if this is a digital only release? I ask because some past updates have had different (more) in game items than the digital versions.Thanks!!

Banditman

11-10-2011, 05:06 PM

$40 for what would amount to 25% of a true expansion . . . surely you can't be serious.

Geothe

11-10-2011, 05:07 PM

$40 dollars for ZERO content?!?!Not suprised, with the way SmokeJumper has been messing everything up around here, but still, thats pretty much a rip-off.And i LOVE how they dont even let you know how many more AAs that $40 will buy for you, what a freaking joke.

Tomcats

11-10-2011, 05:08 PM

This will be the first expansion I won't pre-order and possibly not buy. I'd rather play content created by profesionals not my fellow players. Maybe it will be fun but I just don't see it now. Right now I see it as $40 to increase your AA to an undetermined amount.Why would I want my content made by other players? It's like going to a nice Steak House and having your steak cooked by other customers.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />

str8gone

11-10-2011, 05:15 PM

I have to agree with everyone else$60 for this expansion is either someone at Sony with a bad sense of humor or they have lost all touch with reality.Let me get this straight Velious has been out about 7 1/2 months and you are now asking for the full amount of cash for another expansion which adds 0 content for $60. Now I sure as hell OVERPAID for Velious cause the way you guys are handling the raid content in that expansion borders on incompentent but this has now crossed the line of lunacy!So does this mean in March 2012 I have to fork out another $60 for an expansion??????????This is why I canceled my account prior to Kunark! To many damm expansions coming out way to damm fast and simply trying to devour the very life out of your MONTHLY paying customers. I came back because Sony promised to stop doing that crap and YOU ARE back to it again.

Tyrus Dracofire

11-10-2011, 05:22 PM

i want to see it before i either to decide to order it or avoid this time and let my account expired by end of dec/or first week of jan.what a lackluster sale pitch by playing us blind.these "collector edition' price seem bit high.standard digital should cost no more than 29.95, and collector edition should be cost no higher than 49.95 as it been for all previous expansions, these seem too jacked up while in this unstable economy.i dont want to buy collector and find out i get let down for so little features.in this stage of that business doing this way, make us really nervous and not able to trust SOE.

Methriln

11-10-2011, 05:36 PM

Yea so after reading whats included in this um "expansion" I for one will not be purchasing it

Dawnstrike

11-10-2011, 05:44 PM

It is a bit vague. Some screen shots would be nice. I'm not really feeling like jumping up and buying it for the price.

Brigh

11-10-2011, 05:52 PM

Before anyone pre-orders, including myself, we need to see pictures of the special items.

Ahlana

11-10-2011, 05:54 PM

Is preorder like last year, where they dont charge you til it goes live?

Brigh

11-10-2011, 05:56 PM

<cite>Absyntheea@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>How long is pre-order? Have you actually set a release date?</blockquote>Since it says the GU/Expansion launches November 30th...

Felinae

11-10-2011, 06:01 PM

I knew this would be the price they all charge the same anymore. This will be too much to bear for my husband and I after just have DoV x2 plus the monthly fee for us both and now this. We are on a very tight budget and I am currently looking for a job to keep us afloat. EQ2 is our entertainment. We dont eat out or buy junk , just live day to day and game together. We were looking forward to some of the new things but with the holidays also on us its not looking good. /sigh

yohann koldheart

11-10-2011, 06:05 PM

tbh to me the biggest bad thing is every server is being mad F2P...<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=509054" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=509054</a>

Morgrimson

11-10-2011, 06:08 PM

Wow SoE just Wow I know you need to make money just like any other company but $40 for a feature update NOT an expansion is just nuts. You really expect your player base to accept this fleecing? I am just another one of the crowd that will not bother with this wanna be Xpac and Im just happy that I already pre ordered SWToR. Thank you for giving me such an easy exit from EQ2. By the way I think I even remember your lead dev making the statment that this set of features was going to be free what ever happened to that?

technologically

11-10-2011, 06:21 PM

<cite>Ashlanne wrote:</cite><blockquote>Fixed now. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />Our Webpresense team is also fixing the issue with the Collector's edition price.Thank you all for your patience.</blockquote>Sorry if this sounds bitter, but its amazing how fast your webpresense team can fix things that impact your bottom line.

Morpain

11-10-2011, 06:21 PM

$40 bucks for this crap?!?! Not even a listing of how many aa's? I'll be honest if it was $20 I would probably drink the Kool aid, but this is just a blatant money grab. Worse is as an end game raider you are expected to max your aa's to perform to the best of your ability. With no listing of how many aa's it looks an awful lot like a way to grab raiders by the short hairs and squeeze money out of them! Unless they drop the prices on this crap I'm definetely out of here!

arvydys

11-10-2011, 06:25 PM

<cite>Elhonas@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote> The fact that Smokejumper believes that this "expansion" is worth $40 is insulting, to be honest. </blockquote>I dont know if its fair to throw this one on him. Im betting he doesnt have much control over it. At this point im not even sure Smedley does.

Hogatha

11-10-2011, 06:26 PM

So, is there even a reason to pre-order aside from saving $ on the collector's edition? I don't see that there are any perks to pre-ordering except that, as it looks like all of the "bonus" items will come with the purchase when it goes live.

Nrgy

11-10-2011, 06:28 PM

<cite>Qixil@Unrest_old wrote:</cite><blockquote>So, is there even a reason to pre-order aside from saving $ on the collector's edition? I don't see that there are any perks to pre-ordering except that, as it looks like all of the "bonus" items will come with the purchase when it goes live.</blockquote>Maybe its possible you get a guaranteed Beta slot as a "Head-Start" perk.

Loxus

11-10-2011, 06:29 PM

So basically...You want us to give you $40 now so we can beta test...Beastlords...the Freeport revamp...Dungeon builder...and reforging,for you to work all the bugs out that you didn't listen to nor ever do listen to during the actual beta. And in return you'll let us pre-earn AA's in the old, boring, content that we're sick and tired of running that is completely out of whack because of itemization that you want us to try to fix ourselves with reforging - if it works - which it won't - at least until March - but probably longer. Furthermore, we won't be able to spend the AA's we've pre-earned because you failed to increase the AA caps or add any new AA's which from the sounds of it we won't get any until??? Next GU??? Next expansion??? next November??? Never???But wait, there's more! There's a promise of new content - someday - that will be released - someday - that will be released in a GU to be determined Soon (tm) that will hit servers, without being tested AT ALL! - someday - but not now - when there's actually a beta test happening - where it could be tested - that you wouldn't listen to feedback anyway.I have a better Idea. Why don't I hold on to my $40 bucks and buy the expansion WHEN IT'S READY! - if I'm still a customer.Holy Gods, just when I think you guys couldn't drop the ball any worse...!

arvydys

11-10-2011, 06:30 PM

Dear SoE:I understand you probably have pressure from above on making extre revenue off this. I, like everyone else, dont feel $40 is a fair value for existing customers.It *is* a fair price for new customers as they will get DoV with it.Simple solution, that wont please everyone but should please some: Give people who have DoV already an extra 2k Station cash upon pruchase of AoD. That will still get your $40 per pack, but give the customers a better value. Some will turn that SC into subscriptions, but most will buy some goodies like an extra character slot for their beastlord or maybe a new home. And more people will buy it so even if some use it for furthur subscription fees, your bottom line still improves. Its a win-win.

1jesse1

11-10-2011, 06:32 PM

lol at the a-hole who thought crossing out 89.99 and putting 59.99 for a limited time only! Like that little move doesnt make this look like any more of a rip off.You guys probly spent 89.99 building this update.

Elspith

11-10-2011, 06:33 PM

Yay! Pre-Orderd!!! Thank you and can't wait!

Elskidor

11-10-2011, 06:35 PM

In the very least, an additional character slot should be included in the expansion for the flipping Beastlord. Really needs to come with a character slot and sold for about 20 bucks cheaper though.

zzvalarzz

11-10-2011, 06:36 PM

Too bad we will never see the numbers...going to be a solid indicator of how much or little SWTOR is going to hurt them. If your about to jump ship no sense in dropping $40 on an "expansion".

Gungo

11-10-2011, 06:38 PM

feedback:The pricing is horrible for this expansion.less then a year after the last expansion for minimal content unlocked for a ridiculous overcharged price.I hope to god your marketing team puts ALL these features ala cart in the SC store because this expansion is not worth the price you are charging. You honestly cant compare this expansion price to ANY MMO expansion released. it is a complete ripoff even compared to the worst MMo´s out there.

Efess

11-10-2011, 06:55 PM

If bard/enchanter mercs will be available I forsee great things. No more waiting around to find one that actually wants to play a utility class. Let the NPC do it for you <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" />. Even if they are strung around just for buffs

yadi

11-10-2011, 06:56 PM

Wow!After being a loyal customer since 2004 and playing countless hours to always remain in the top 50 questers worldwide, things are getting worst all the time...I'm very close to cancelling my subscription... I'm not happy at all here...This is NOT an expansion by any means and I'm sorry, but 40$ for this is a ripoff... This is worth 15$... if it's worth something... I don't care at all about anything in this except maybe Mercenaries since I mostly play solo...Revamp and features are for GU... an expansion needs... expanding content... like zones and levels...I'm very sad about all this after all that time...Sorry to say this, but SWTOR will probably get my monthly sub... SOE screwed off SWG where I was enjoying my time and now they are really starting to screw EQ2 up also... so back at Star Wars but with another company...I'm testing SWTOR this week end, and I bet that after that I'll be hooked up... I pre-ordered back in July and I've been waiting for over 2 years...Very sad about all these news... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" />

Grumble69

11-10-2011, 07:00 PM

<cite>Icculuss@Unrest_old wrote:</cite><blockquote>Dear SoE:I understand you probably have pressure from above on making extre revenue off this. I, like everyone else, dont feel $40 is a fair value for existing customers.It *is* a fair price for new customers as they will get DoV with it.</blockquote>From the pre-order site, it sounds like you would have to separately purchase DoV if you were a new customer, unless you had a platinum membership (which is apparently going away). Very confusing.Anyway, like you, I don't think it's a fair value either. The features are very niche. Not everybody likes to design dungeons. Not everyone is into tradeskills. The mercenaries sound like a "half of a person" so I'm not sure they have a lot of value for filling groups; maybe it'll improve some soloability (still niche). And I've only got about 3 items that I intend to reforge. There's also not a lot to gain through the AAs either. So when you subset down to what I'd actually use, $40 is way on the high side. I might purchase it for $15-20.

Aneova

11-10-2011, 07:11 PM

90 bucks for the collector's edition? really? can i have a bit of what your smoking please?Edit: Yes i see after the expansion goes live but that's absolutely nuts

Anastasie

11-10-2011, 07:12 PM

Will a red-name please clarify if AoD includes all previous expansions? For this price it really should. I have friends wanting to get the game, but they want to make sure they get all the game content if they purchase the new expansion.

Arrg

11-10-2011, 07:19 PM

It does not include the other expansions. From the current version of pre-order release. The Digitial Collector's Edition is a Station Exclusive and is specially priced at $59.99 for pre-order only. This version includes the base game, a Cloak of the Truespirit, Dungeon Maker Unique Monster Spawner #1, Dungeon Maker Unique Monster Spawner #2, Armored Flying Pegasus Mount, Unique Beastlord Warder Pet, Lavastorm Prestige Home, Custom Dungeon Maker Map Layout, and a Robe of the True Spirit. From the release that I read this morning..... The Digitial Collector's Edition is a Station Exclusive and is specially priced at $59.99 for pre-order only. This version includes the base game, all seven expansions, a Cloak of the Truespirit, Dungeon Maker Unique Monster Spawner #1, Dungeon Maker Unique Monster Spawner #2, Armored Flying Pegasus Mount, Unique Beastlord Warder Pet, Lavastorm Prestige Home, Custom Dungeon Maker Map Layout, and a Robe of the True Spirit. New accounts will also receive a free 30-day subscription. Guess they decided that they could do a bigger money grab this way..... From the actual pre-order form. EverQuest II will transition to a "Free to Play" model concurrently with the launch of the Age of Discovery expansion pack. This means that all players will have access to EverQuest II through free and optional paid membership levels. All membership levels will provide players with access to game world content through the EverQuest II Sentinel's Fate expansion. Platinum-level subscribers will also have access to the EverQuest II Destiny of Velious expansion. For all other players, the EverQuest II Destiny of Velious and EverQuest II Age of Discovery expansions may be purchased separately. I was going to buy this "feature pack" since I did not buy DOV, so the $40 bucks was worth it to me. But with this change, probably won't buy either. As a side note, I wonder how many people they fleeced into pre-ordering with the understanding it would include DOV.Edited for some highlighting.

Lenox

11-10-2011, 07:29 PM

Why would I pay $40-$60 for a new expansion that has no new content when the expansion I paid for last year has not even been completed?How about you give us the mercs that we have to use in-game money to use and the new class and the dungeon builder that we ourselves can't even use for FREE and finish DOV then talk to us about paying for a new expansion when you have one?

Chanaluss

11-10-2011, 07:29 PM

for 40 bucks and no content, it better come with prior expansions. if it doesnt, well then, even I have lost hope with this portion of SOE.

Morpain

11-10-2011, 07:29 PM

The only rational explanation....there are some moles from Bioware in SOE atm!

Sheira

11-10-2011, 07:36 PM

+1 for this price being too much for what we are getting.Lower the price or add some more perks (character slot, free 30 days), tell me exactly what I'm getting (more details on the AA's, mercs, item forging) and give me a reason to WANT to buy this without feeling like I'm getting it...well you know where.Heck I would rather pay $40 for DoV Part 2, than this.And it would be nice if we could get some answers in this thread. SJ and the rest of the red names seem more concerened with the FTP one.Thanks!

Purr

11-10-2011, 07:44 PM

I'm sorry to say this but... $40 just for what should be 2 or 3 GUs and doesn't even include all previous expacs like it was the case so far?With SWTOR coming and Skyrim on the shelf tomorrow?No, just no.

Katz

11-10-2011, 08:02 PM

<cite>Charuthus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>which version do Fan Faire attendees get?</blockquote>Can we upgrade the Fan Faire edition like we could with DOV please?

Trynt

11-10-2011, 08:03 PM

The value for the price you're charging is laughably absurd.

GrunEQ

11-10-2011, 08:04 PM

Hmmmm I thought it would cover DoV...and if it doesn't I'm going to feel really taken.I also believe that it should include an extra slot for Beastlords.

SlashnGut

11-10-2011, 08:06 PM

Not buying this crap for $40 is all I will say. Many others have already stated the reasons.

Darkstar101

11-10-2011, 08:10 PM

I almost had a few people talked into returning to the game for this expansion until someone decided to remove the inclusion of prior expansions and limit it to the base game only. No sale sorry. Way to win back subscriptions.

GrunEQ

11-10-2011, 08:17 PM

Can you cancel if you already pre-ordered?

piro

11-10-2011, 08:31 PM

Morpain

11-10-2011, 08:37 PM

<cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote>Can you cancel if you already pre-ordered?</blockquote>I have a better question: Can I cancel my subscription and get the balance of my year sub back to spend on a real game?!?!

Zabjade

11-10-2011, 08:49 PM

Is there going to be a Physical version coiming out? Just out of curiosity?

Lodrelhai

11-10-2011, 08:52 PM

<cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Charuthus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>which version do Fan Faire attendees get?</blockquote>Can we upgrade the Fan Faire edition like we could with DOV please?</blockquote>Fan Faire attendies are getting the Collector's Edition. They sent out emails on that today.

Krowpa

11-10-2011, 08:59 PM

I would bet that the thing from the pre-order form is somewhat out of context. When the game goes F2P, DOV and AOD will not be included in the F2P model. You have to buy them. I am 99% sure that if you buy AOD you would unlock all expansions. People are in panic mode and not really thinking as clearly as they might, it seems like. Just bad wording and placement for the info about F2P.I am looking forward to the features in this expansion. I want a beastlord, mercs are going to make soloing easier, dungeon finder looks fun, and extra AA means I might get some on tradeskills. I have a choice in how I think about things, and I choose not to be angry because this has a lot more gameplay features than any single expansion or GU has had, and I get all of the zones, etc for just the price of my regular sub. Nobody is forcing me to buy this - I want to. Nobody is forcing anybody else to buy it. If raiders think it is so horrible, they aren't going to start requiring 350 AA for raids, that would be silly, because there are no actual new AA's anyway - just more to spend. (It was mentioned at Fan Faire, and a couple of times since then, that it would be 50 new AA points - the panic folks seem to have forgotten that.) Everybody needs to take a breath, step back, and decide if they want to buy it or not - if Age of Discovery isn't your cup of tea, don't buy it. Instead enjoy the zones that you are going to get without having to buy an expansion.Eric

Ninna37

11-10-2011, 09:04 PM

<cite>Krowpa wrote:</cite><blockquote> I am 99% sure that if you buy AOD you would unlock all expansions.</blockquote>it doesntthe wording was changed on the preorder page to just say base game<a href="http://eq2wire.com/2011/11/10/takeback-age-of-discovery-excludes-past-expansions/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2wire.com/2011/11/10/takeb...ast-expansions/</a>

Errrorr

11-10-2011, 09:13 PM

SoE, please, please, take a look at this thread, and pay attention for once.You are releasing an expansion, which includes no new content, and only "features" and charging a ridiculous price for it.Do I even need to buy AoD? You won't state an AA level increase in exact numbers, I don't want to play a beastlord, and mercenaries have no use to me at all.The F2P decision, I can understand, and if done well, will serious help the game.The pricing on the expansion, is abysmal, and is going to cause more problems than anything else.Listen to the player base for once.

Tomcats

11-10-2011, 09:19 PM

EQ Expansion basicly... ($40) - New Levels - Enhanced existing game play - New AA - Raid Content - Group Content - New Spells - New Quests and missions - Hell, even a LoN bonus EQ2 Expansion basicly... ($40) - New AA - New Class - amature player created content - amature player created lootedit: - MercsWhats going on here????

AZSolii

11-10-2011, 09:22 PM

You know, I WAS going to prepurchase the collector's edition when I got home this evening. I don't have Dawn of Vellious. I was waiting to see if Age of Discovery would include it. I was elated to find the initial announcement said it would. Now, it doesn't. I'm very glad I bloody waited until I got home to want to order, because now, I'm not going to purchase either.It's one thing to give a rather large price for an expansion which is an addon to Velious. It's another to falsify information in your advertising.Is there a customer service rep that could send me a PM on this change? Or that I could send a PM to?

Arrg

11-10-2011, 09:24 PM

<cite>Krowpa wrote:</cite><blockquote>I would bet that the thing from the pre-order form is somewhat out of context. When the game goes F2P, DOV and AOD will not be included in the F2P model. You have to buy them. I am 99% sure that if you buy AOD you would unlock all expansions. People are in panic mode and not really thinking as clearly as they might, it seems like. Just bad wording and placement for the info about F2P</blockquote>That 1% always catches someone.Directly from the pre-order info sheet <a href="http://everquest2.com/get_the_game/buy_now">http://everquest2.com/get_the_game/buy_now</a>EverQuest II will transition to a "Free to Play" model concurrently with the launch of the Age of Discovery expansion pack. This means that all players will have access to EverQuest II through free and optional paid membership levels. All membership levels will provide players with access to game world content through the EverQuest II Sentinel's Fate expansion. Platinum-level subscribers will also have access to the EverQuest II Destiny of Velious expansion. For all other players, the EverQuest II Destiny of Velious and EverQuest II Age of Discovery expansions may be purchased separately. From the Pre-order press release:<h3>Digital Collector's Edition</h3>The Digitial Collector's Edition is a Station Exclusive and is specially priced at $59.99 for pre-order only. This version includes the base game, a Cloak of the Truespirit, Dungeon Maker Unique Monster Spawner #1, Dungeon Maker Unique Monster Spawner #2, Armored Flying Pegasus Mount, Unique Beastlord Warder Pet, Lavastorm Prestige Home, Custom Dungeon Maker Map Layout, and a Robe of the True Spirit.Please note that after the pre-order period ends, the price of the Digital Collector's Edition will increase to $89.99.<img src="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/en/spacers/flourish1_light.png" /><h3>Standard Digital Edition</h3>The Standard Digitial Edition includes the base game, a Cloak of the Truespirit, and a Dungeon Maker Unique Monster Spawner #1. The cost for the Standard Digital Edition is $39.99.The first time I read that this morning it said base game, and 7 expansions. So they have changed the wording to EXPLICITLY take out the expansions.

Tyrus Dracofire

11-10-2011, 09:29 PM

SOE,what we really need the most.expanded bank vault, bigger strongbox and packbags, not just increased by 4's, need to increased by 12's in each box and bags, and extra house storage slots, each prestige homes get 1 extra storage slot, and a new "Warehouse" zone for storages.Guise/illusions and summon pets tabsreal deal "armor stands", not that fluff window dressing mannequins.old raid fabled shields and weapons as House items.

Kaszan

11-10-2011, 10:01 PM

I can understand the F2P decision. A number of games in the industry and adopted this model to survive. However $40 for an expansion when the only feature I will use is the AA increase, which there are no details on, I will not be part of.Unless the AA increase is in the range of 100 there is no way I am buying this "expansion"

Zabjade

11-10-2011, 10:05 PM

I hope they at least add new content to the formerly dead areas(Now reachable by fliers) of old zones

ObsidianNightmare

11-10-2011, 10:22 PM

<cite>Tyrus@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote>SOE,what we really need the most.expanded bank vault, bigger strongbox and packbags, not just increased by 4's, need to increased by 12's in each box and bags, and extra house storage slots, each prestige homes get 1 extra storage slot, and a new "Warehouse" zone for storages.Guise/illusions and summon pets tabsreal deal "armor stands", not that fluff window dressing mannequins.old raid fabled shields and weapons as House items.</blockquote>I hope this is a joke because doing things like this is exactly why the content and itemization has very little value these days. What we need more of is imagination and creativity going into development of content and itemization. Itemization not script generated and ample time spent on this as well as QA to test and make sure it works before going live.

DaftPatch

11-10-2011, 10:45 PM

Wow, what a huge disappointment. While I'm excited to be able to play BL again, I can't say I'm very thrilled about anything else in this add-on. More AA is cool, I guess, if only we knew how much. Mercenaries might be fun since it is increasingly harder to find people on at the times that I play. But everything else is just a bunch of crap. Reforging items? Bleh...adding a dungeon creator? Sounds completely useless. No new "real" content doesn't seem to warrant the price point they have set. Put this on the shelf for another month and really think about what you are doing please. Because asking for this much from your core/die-hard players is kind of a slap in the face.

Katz

11-10-2011, 10:47 PM

<cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Charuthus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>which version do Fan Faire attendees get?</blockquote>Can we upgrade the Fan Faire edition like we could with DOV please?</blockquote>Fan Faire attendies are getting the Collector's Edition. They sent out emails on that today.</blockquote>I clicked on the link and logged in but I don't see where we go to "reserve" it. Do you know?

Jemoo

11-10-2011, 11:05 PM

This isn't going to be a complaint post like so many of the others... Will we be able to pre-order from the marketplace? Some of the new features are looking neat and there are some that I am looking forward to. Unfortunately I am low on money but have plenty of SC from the recent double weekend and would like to pre-order the CE at the lower price with some of that money.

Elskidor

11-10-2011, 11:09 PM

<cite>Kaszan@Unrest_old wrote:</cite><blockquote>I can understand the F2P decision. A number of games in the industry and adopted this model to survive. However $40 for an expansion when the only feature I will use is the AA increase, which there are no details on, I will not be part of.Unless the AA increase is in the range of 100 there is no way I am buying this "expansion"</blockquote>AA increase is 50, and they aren't new AAs, just lifting the limit on how much you can spend on pre-existing trees. In the end this AA will also leave the classes incredibly more unbalanced than they already are. Some classes will gain some really nice things with these AAs and others will gain nearly nothing useful. But with all the changes in the last year many have already left, and I don't think the ftp guys will know the difference and the decorators won't care as long as their is new overpriced junk on the marketplace to buy.

agentsix

11-10-2011, 11:19 PM

<cite>Elzeenor@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote>But with all the changes in the last year many have already left, and I don't think the ftp guys will know the difference</blockquote>What's this supposed to mean?

Caedo

11-10-2011, 11:19 PM

The price, lack of content, and lack of INFORMATION on the additions (what few there are) are annoying me just as much as everyone else here. More and more, it starts feeling like SOE is trying to anger their player base for some reason.But as to another point, the facebook page has pics of the cloak, robe, prestige house, mount, and warder pet.<a href="http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150362344608127.362460.9093208126&type=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8126&type=1</a>

Wolfsbaine

11-10-2011, 11:29 PM

Any ideas on when they are going to charge us for the preorders? Hopefully they wont make me wait til right before it goes live. I dont want to have temptation to cancel my order. I love the game, just not too fond of the direction the people in charge are going with everything. I love the F2P option and merges. I am not too fond of the lack of content for this expansion

agentsix

11-10-2011, 11:33 PM

<cite>Wolfsbaine@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any ideas on when they are going to charge us for the preorders? Hopefully they wont make me wait til right before it goes live. I dont want to have temptation to cancel my order. I love the game, just not too fond of the direction the people in charge are going with everything. I love the F2P option and merges. I am not too fond of the lack of content for this expansion</blockquote><a href="http://www.everquest2.com/get_the_game/buy_now" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.everquest2.com/get_the_game/buy_now</a>

Wolfsbaine

11-10-2011, 11:42 PM

I purchased it an hour or two ago. I just wasnt sure when the billing would go through. My bank is fairly fast about showing up.

shadowscale

11-10-2011, 11:43 PM

<cite></cite><blockquote><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Charuthus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>which version do Fan Faire attendees get?</blockquote>Can we upgrade the Fan Faire edition like we could with DOV please?</blockquote>Fan Faire attendies are getting the Collector's Edition. They sent out emails on that today.</blockquote></blockquote>i dident get an email... but went to fan fair, am worried

Lodrelhai

11-10-2011, 11:53 PM

<cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Charuthus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>which version do Fan Faire attendees get?</blockquote>Can we upgrade the Fan Faire edition like we could with DOV please?</blockquote>Fan Faire attendies are getting the Collector's Edition. They sent out emails on that today.</blockquote>I clicked on the link and logged in but I don't see where we go to "reserve" it. Do you know?</blockquote>You're guess is as good as mine on that one. Following the link in the email, there's no option to "buy". Which may mean we're already flagged for it, but I can't tell for sure because I can't look at my subscription information on my account.

agentsix

11-11-2011, 12:23 AM

Is the mount in the collector's edition something that every charcter on the account can claim? Or is it just a once per account thing?

Wolfsbaine

11-11-2011, 12:59 AM

<cite>Shouter@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is the mount in the collector's edition something that every charcter on the account can claim? Or is it just a once per account thing?</blockquote>Everything should be per char. I dont think the warder pet will be, since that is a BL item

Kain-UK

11-11-2011, 01:04 AM

Here's something for you to think about SOE...Myself and my g/f haven't played for over a year. We left when SF was out and before DoV even entered beta because we were that fed up with the game. Recently, we've been considering coming back. The fact we both two-box meant the F2P accouncement has really interested both of us. We decided to wait on coming back because we knew Age of Discovery was coming out, and we figured that all previous expansions would be included since they were for all previous expansion launches.So, £60 and we'd get 2 expansions, plus DoV which we were missing. Sounds reasonable.Now I found out that you're not including previous expansions with Age of Discovery?Sorry... but unless you drop your prices or include DoV, we won't be coming back. £120 for two accounts to have all the expansions is too much... hell it'd be £240 if you include our two-boxed accounts... and this doesn't even take into account the fact we'd have to re-subscribe (That's another £16 straight away, bringing the total to £136 or there-abouts).I highly recommend your "bean counters" and "marketing" guys re-think this strategy, since you don't really seem to want to bring back old players... or even retain the ones you have judging by some of these responses.

Te'ana

11-11-2011, 01:15 AM

<cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Charuthus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>which version do Fan Faire attendees get?</blockquote>Can we upgrade the Fan Faire edition like we could with DOV please?</blockquote>Fan Faire attendies are getting the Collector's Edition. They sent out emails on that today.</blockquote>I clicked on the link and logged in but I don't see where we go to "reserve" it. Do you know?</blockquote>Same here, and my husband didn't get the email at all.

Katz

11-11-2011, 01:21 AM

I finally figured out how to find it. Its sort of hidden as how to find it. Go to <a href="http://www.soe.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.soe.com</a> and log in to your account. Hover over the "My Account" in the upper right corner and click on "View Account Details".Then on that page click on "Details" in the upper right corner of the Everquest II area of that page.My account was already flagged for Age of Discovery.

ratbast

11-11-2011, 01:27 AM

I think free2play is the end of my eq2 gaming, not sure tho. I see RMT as manipulative and exploitive. If eq2 is free2play ONLY, I highly doubt I will even bother. integrating f2p and sub on same server might be possible option, as long as there are boundaries and clear identification of account types by players.straight f2p for all accounts is a deal breaker for me.what does eq2 going f2play mean for antonio bayle server?

shadowscale

11-11-2011, 02:21 AM

<cite>Katz wrote:</cite><blockquote>I finally figured out how to find it. Its sort of hidden as how to find it. Go to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.soe.com" target="_blank">www.soe.com</a> and log in to your account. Hover over the "My Account" in the upper right corner and click on "View Account Details".Then on that page click on "Details" in the upper right corner of the Everquest II area of that page.My account was already flagged for Age of Discovery.</blockquote>havent been able to do that... just errors out.

Maisland

11-11-2011, 03:01 AM

I just added up the money I have available to spend during the rest of this month. If I cancel my subscription (due for renewal on the 26th) I should have around $52 available to spend until December 2, when I get my monthly income for that month.How long is the special price for the collector's edition going to be available? I figure if I drop my subscription payments for a few months, it should cover it. No way would I pay more than the special deal price though... and I have no interest in the standard edition. I see no point in just buying that.So if the special deal for the collector's edition doesn't last through December, I guess I won't be buying this "expansion" at all.

Krilinye

11-11-2011, 04:55 AM

Lets not forget VAT Tax for some of us <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Collectors edition, special price for you, 59.99, oh and 12 USD extra in VAT, that makes 71.99... Baaaah stupeed VAT :/

Valonia

11-11-2011, 06:39 AM

<cite>Krilinye wrote:</cite><blockquote>Lets not forget VAT Tax for some of us <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />Collectors edition, special price for you, 59.99, oh and 12 USD extra in VAT, that makes 71.99... Baaaah stupeed VAT :/</blockquote>VAT stinks, no questions asked. But at least SoE is doing a fair conversion instead of asking for another 10-20% through a 1:1 rate! =)

Wurm

11-11-2011, 07:11 AM

Just once I'd like to click on a link posted in here and not get the following...The page you are trying to reach no longer exists or an unexpected error occurred while loading the page. Please try visiting the <a href="http://www.everquest2.com/">EverQuest® II homepage</a> or refreshing the page. If this Issue Persists, please <a href="http://www.station.sony.com/en/support/supportTopics.vm?category=PC&id=002">contact customer support</a>.(And that was the supposedly fixed link.)

Kaian

11-11-2011, 08:23 AM

<cite>Wolfsbaine@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Shouter@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is the mount in the collector's edition something that every charcter on the account can claim? Or is it just a once per account thing?</blockquote>Everything should be per char. I dont think the warder pet will be, since that is a BL item</blockquote>Could we get some confirmation that this is indeed the case? I just want to check, as all other pegasus-style mounts have been through the Marketplace only and for substantial amounts of SC.If it's indeed one of the new Pegasus mounts per character, then that's going to tip me over towards getting the CE. If not, then ... not.

Ruut Li

11-11-2011, 09:18 AM

Thank you SOE! Im finally getting around to check if my computer specs are good enough for sw:tor. Thanks for the nudge <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

agentsix

11-11-2011, 09:20 AM

<cite>Kaian@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wolfsbaine@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Shouter@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is the mount in the collector's edition something that every charcter on the account can claim? Or is it just a once per account thing?</blockquote>Everything should be per char. I dont think the warder pet will be, since that is a BL item</blockquote>Could we get some confirmation that this is indeed the case? I just want to check, as all other pegasus-style mounts have been through the Marketplace only and for substantial amounts of SC.If it's indeed one of the new Pegasus mounts per character, then that's going to tip me over towards getting the CE. If not, then ... not.</blockquote><cite>Smokejumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>Collector's Edition items are claimable one per character, not one per account.</blockquote><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x/posts/list.m?start=165&topic_id=10328#84510" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x..._id=10328#84510</a>

jofm5

11-11-2011, 09:21 AM

So whats the real date for this ?The first page graphic of this thread announces release of AoD on 30th of November.However if you read the community announcement by smokejumper :-<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=509054" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=509054</a>Scroll to the very last post "What your still reading this? Okay a summary" and he says the following:-All of this (and more) is planned to happen on the same day in early December (we’ll announce the exact date as we get closer):<ul><li>“Age of Discovery” expansion launch (pre-order available now!). </li><li>GU 62 -“Freeport Reborn” launch, free to all players! </li><li>Free-to-play conversion. </li><li>A brand new website with an all new players section! </li><li>And more. Yes, there’s still more that needs to firm up before being announced!</li></ul>

Cyliena

11-11-2011, 09:23 AM

<cite>Kaian@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wolfsbaine@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Shouter@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is the mount in the collector's edition something that every charcter on the account can claim? Or is it just a once per account thing?</blockquote>Everything should be per char. I dont think the warder pet will be, since that is a BL item</blockquote>Could we get some confirmation that this is indeed the case? I just want to check, as all other pegasus-style mounts have been through the Marketplace only and for substantial amounts of SC.If it's indeed one of the new Pegasus mounts per character, then that's going to tip me over towards getting the CE. If not, then ... not.</blockquote>It seems a little too good to be true, eh? I have a sinking feeling (that I hope is wrong) that the mount is going to be appearance-only or require a silly quest like the DoV one did or require that you do the flying mount quests.

SOE-MOD-04

11-11-2011, 09:26 AM

This post has moved: <a href="/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=500111&post_id=5656377" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">/eq2/posts/preList.m?topic_id=50011...post_id=5656377</a> Removed for trolling

Kaian

11-11-2011, 09:55 AM

<cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaian@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Wolfsbaine@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Shouter@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is the mount in the collector's edition something that every charcter on the account can claim? Or is it just a once per account thing?</blockquote>Everything should be per char. I dont think the warder pet will be, since that is a BL item</blockquote>Could we get some confirmation that this is indeed the case? I just want to check, as all other pegasus-style mounts have been through the Marketplace only and for substantial amounts of SC.If it's indeed one of the new Pegasus mounts per character, then that's going to tip me over towards getting the CE. If not, then ... not.</blockquote>It seems a little too good to be true, eh? I have a sinking feeling (that I hope is wrong) that the mount is going to be appearance-only or require a silly quest like the DoV one did or require that you do the flying mount quests.</blockquote>Mmm ... I'd missed SJ's confirmation in amongst all the other barrage of info. However, my gut feeling is like yours, Cyliena. Too good to be true that it could be a simple matter of logging in and /claim. Perhaps I'm just old and cynical?!I'd really like an assertion that the mount is a fully-featured, non-appearance item, available via /claim for immediate use (as long as level requirements are satisfied) and whether it's useable by level 85 adventurers *and* crafters, or level 85 adventurers only.

Raienya

11-11-2011, 10:02 AM

<cite>Ruut Li wrote:</cite><blockquote>rofl! just looked at the ss of the bonus items. gratz fluff junkies and decorators. gratz soe on an easy moneygrab.</blockquote>I am something of a decorator, but Lavastorm itself will have to freeze over before I fork over the obscene amount of money SOE is trying to squeeze out of the player base for JUNK.Being as there is NO additional content (zones, etc), asking $40/$60 is beyond ridiculous. A price of $20/$40 MIGHT be more acceptable, but charging $40/$60 for the ability to roll a beastlord is just pure greed on the part of SOE. The only features that people other than "fluff junkies and decorators" might use are reforging and the tradeskill apprentice.Call it what you want, but an expansion is supposed to EXPAND the game world, not introduce fluff DIY dungeons for decorators, mercs, and the like.

darwich

11-11-2011, 10:14 AM

the flying quest is the price for being able to fly, of course the mount is not a level 1 usable mount... seeing all these people complain is just so funny.. same thing for every expansion for every game, get real.. if you dont want to pay for it, dont.. you just dont get what is new.. i dont understand why people continue to complain and moan instead of just moving on..

Kaian

11-11-2011, 10:22 AM

<cite>darwich wrote:</cite><blockquote>the flying quest is the price for being able to fly, of course the mount is not a level 1 usable mount... seeing all these people complain is just so funny.. same thing for every expansion for every game, get real.. if you dont want to pay for it, dont.. you just dont get what is new.. i dont understand why people continue to complain and moan instead of just moving on..</blockquote>Not so, re the flying quest. The Marketplace flying mounts are useable at adventure level 85 even if you haven't done the DoV flying quest (my brigand uses one and she's not done the questline).Nobody's presuming the mount is a level 1 mount. I'm asking if it is useable by level 85 crafters as well as level 85 adventurers. Perfectly reasonable question, I think, as such things have happened in the past.

ShinGoku

11-11-2011, 11:56 AM

I am going to raise my objections and revoice what others have already said regarding the pricing.<img src="http://streetknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/picture-34.png?w=592&h=337" width="592" height="337" />This in addition with the fact that you folks will more than likely try to overcharge us non US citizens is just too much for me.For the privaledge of what the update actually gives, the cost outways it vastly. Sorry SOE, you can't have my money this time. $80USD for both my account and my wifeys is too much.

Sheira

11-11-2011, 12:25 PM

I would still like some more details on the things we are getting for our $40. Exactly how many AA's? There are too many rumors flying around about how many and how they can be spent (someone told me only 25 in the TS tree only).What is item reforging and how is it going to work?Again, I just don't see enough detailed information here. SJ on the webcast said if you don't want it, don't buy it...I would like to know what I'm getting to WANT to buy it. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

clairebear

11-11-2011, 12:35 PM

I really don't understand, red names have responded to fluff questions about CE, but not to price and specific info about AOD altogether.WHY did they decide to price it at $40 rather than a reduced amount since we're getting no new explorable content? It's a very negative attitude to have "Buy it or don't. Tough luck on price". We want (some of) the content (i.e. Beastlords), but we hate the price! Why was it not priced cheaper to get more people to buy it? It's only a features updateWHAT is the AA increase and how will it apply to the trees?

Anestacia

11-11-2011, 12:55 PM

The sense of entitlement on these boards has never ceased to amaze me. Did anyone really think the expansion was going to go down versus stay the same or even go up? If you think a measely 40 dollars every 9 months to a year is too much, then maybe you should find another hobby. Oh, thats right, you probably can NOT find another form of entertainment that will keep you as occupied for as long a period for less money than that. "Oh, but its just features and not content!!1!" First of all, features ARE content and though I myself prefer a new land/world for an expansion to be built around, I also know that in just a few months we will be getting more of Velious which will fulfill that need. The developers did spend a lot of the year working on these features and deserve some compensation for them. The Free to Play announcement has brought out the scum in full force imo. People automatically feel like now they can cancel thier subscription yet STILL have full access to characters, items etc. This is a company with a goal to mak a profit. It isn't a charity or a hand out. Despite their flaws, at the end of the day they deliver good content for a fair price.As far as the collectors edition goes, it is 100% optional. For me and my playstyle (I enjoy almost all aspects of the game including raids, groups, soloing, TSing, and decorating) I find it absolutely worth the money. The expansion itself is $40 so that will have to be spent irregardless. Then you get a house, flying pegasus mount and many other things for ALL characters for only $20 more. If that mount were to go to the Marketplace it would be $20 by itself for ONE character so its a great deal to me.AoD looks good and I am looking forward to its features. For those that want a SOE handout, you might consider moving along and hoping some other multibillion dollar corporation will give you a bunch of free things. Good luck with that.

clairebear

11-11-2011, 01:11 PM

<cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The sense of entitlement on these boards has never ceased to amaze me. Did anyone really think the expansion was going to go down versus stay the same or even go up? If you think a measely 40 dollars every 9 months to a year is too much, then maybe you should find another hobby. Oh, thats right, you probably can NOT find another form of entertainment that will keep you as occupied for as long a period for less money than that. </blockquote>You do not think we have a right to know information about the expansion we would be paying for, such as how many AAs? For all we know it could just be an extra 5. There are those of us who actually like to know what exactly we are getting for our money than blindly paying for things.This is not a discussion about the cost or inflation of expansions in general, it is the cost of this expansion relative to the cost vs content of every other expansion.

Anestacia

11-11-2011, 01:21 PM

<cite>Skyefall@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote>This is not a discussion about the cost or inflation of expansions in general, it is the cost of this expansion relative to the cost vs content of every other expansion.</blockquote>Maybe thats not YOUR discussion but I sure see plenty of other people whinning about the price.

Nrgy

11-11-2011, 01:22 PM

<cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The sense of entitlement on these boards has never ceased to amaze me. Did anyone really think the expansion was going to go down versus stay the same or even go up? If you think a measely 40 dollars every 9 months to a year is too much, then maybe you should find another hobby. Oh, thats right, you probably can NOT find another form of entertainment that will keep you as occupied for as long a period for less money than that. "Oh, but its just features and not content!!1!" First of all, features ARE content and though I myself prefer a new land/world for an expansion to be built around, I also know that in just a few months we will be getting more of Velious which will fulfill that need. The developers did spend a lot of the year working on these features and deserve some compensation for them. The Free to Play announcement has brought out the scum in full force imo. People automatically feel like now they can cancel thier subscription yet STILL have full access to characters, items etc. This is a company with a goal to mak a profit. It isn't a charity or a hand out. Despite their flaws, at the end of the day they deliver good content for a fair price.As far as the collectors edition goes, it is 100% optional. For me and my playstyle (I enjoy almost all aspects of the game including raids, groups, soloing, TSing, and decorating) I find it absolutely worth the money. The expansion itself is $40 so that will have to be spent irregardless. Then you get a house, flying pegasus mount and many other things for ALL characters for only $20 more. If that mount were to go to the Marketplace it would be $20 by itself for ONE character so its a great deal to me.AoD looks good and I am looking forward to its features. For those that want a SOE handout, you might consider moving along and hoping some other multibillion dollar corporation will give you a bunch of free things. Good luck with that.</blockquote>^^ I agree with this 100%... but it falls a bit short ... what I do NOT want are pop-up adds everytime I zone into a city or click on a merchant or open my bank ... I do NOT want players adventuring next to me who think using "Wands of Obliterations" is cool ... I do NOT want PVP targets to "pop" health potions everytime I'm about to win a battle ...Live Subscription or "Gold" membership makes no difference to me, If I wanted to play a F2P game with all the hooha that goes along with it there are plenty of other second class MMO's available. I pay my fees, whatever those fees might be, I absolutely do not want to be Nickled and Dimed to death. I'd rather pay more upfront for a sub/membership and have "all" the features rather than waste a single minute in a buffett line before I start "playing". (I concede Freeblood & Beastlords, those are "extra" add-ons and are fine by definition)I could care less if "Free" or "Silver" members float around the bowl in the pre-DoV zones. But I don't need those ball-n-chains making their way into my Dungeon Finder groups. Being "stuck" with players that are restricted by armor quality or spell tiers is in no way conducisive to my "Entertainment". My "Brother might not be too heavy", but dragging "Free" players through zones is a huge waste of time (under-geared under-mastered), its bad enough with the "Lazy" live players, now adding in the "restricted" players will only make it 1,000% worse (from SOE's projections).

darwich

11-11-2011, 01:23 PM

<cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The sense of entitlement on these boards has never ceased to amaze me. Did anyone really think the expansion was going to go down versus stay the same or even go up? If you think a measely 40 dollars every 9 months to a year is too much, then maybe you should find another hobby. Oh, thats right, you probably can NOT find another form of entertainment that will keep you as occupied for as long a period for less money than that. "Oh, but its just features and not content!!1!" First of all, features ARE content and though I myself prefer a new land/world for an expansion to be built around, I also know that in just a few months we will be getting more of Velious which will fulfill that need. The developers did spend a lot of the year working on these features and deserve some compensation for them. The Free to Play announcement has brought out the scum in full force imo. People automatically feel like now they can cancel thier subscription yet STILL have full access to characters, items etc. This is a company with a goal to mak a profit. It isn't a charity or a hand out. Despite their flaws, at the end of the day they deliver good content for a fair price.As far as the collectors edition goes, it is 100% optional. For me and my playstyle (I enjoy almost all aspects of the game including raids, groups, soloing, TSing, and decorating) I find it absolutely worth the money. The expansion itself is $40 so that will have to be spent irregardless. Then you get a house, flying pegasus mount and many other things for ALL characters for only $20 more. If that mount were to go to the Marketplace it would be $20 by itself for ONE character so its a great deal to me.AoD looks good and I am looking forward to its features. For those that want a SOE handout, you might consider moving along and hoping some other multibillion dollar corporation will give you a bunch of free things. Good luck with that.</blockquote>+100 very good post, 100% agree.

Wookin

11-11-2011, 01:32 PM

There are too many subscribers so telling people to get out of your game is a wise move. I don't plan to buy it not that I really know what "it"is. Maybe at some point there will be an effort to sell it by actually describing what it is?

Anestacia

11-11-2011, 01:44 PM

<cite>Wookin@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>There are too many subscribers so telling people to get out of your game is a wise move. I don't plan to buy it not that I really know what "it"is. Maybe at some point there will be an effort to sell it by actually describing what it is? </blockquote>I don't really know what else you want to know tbh. There are plenty of articles explaining just exactly what the TS assitants, reforging, mercenaries and Beastlords are and how they will work. The only thing that has not been stated is the number of AAs and info on the dungeon maker, which is not even on Beta yet. And does the number of AAs really matter anyway? If its 25 or 50 you either want them or you don't. There is PLENTY of information out there to give you a general idea what your preordering. They have never told us every little detail of every little thing that was going to be in the expansion. Never!

Wookin

11-11-2011, 01:50 PM

For example, the ability to add multiattack to priest armor by reforging might be more of a reason to buy whereas the abilty to add 10 wisdom ang sparkly pony ecfects would not. The ability to spend 20 more AA in the class tree might make it more attractive, ahereas the ability to spend those new points in tskill would not. The extra info we got on tskill mercs or apprentives made it easier to understand that it was not something I am interested in. If you aren't interested in beastlord or minecraft, erm, dungeon builder these things make or break the deal.

Daalilama

11-11-2011, 01:53 PM

40$ to order what is in essence an adventure pack seems somewhat pricey and havent decided if I will buy it.I will say that the reforging seems to be laying the ground work for the devs to no longer design custom gear for the classes and just provided the cookie cutter gear for people to custom design gear for their toons for now on so that aspect seems at least on paper to be something of a smart idea...after all this current xpac is filled with cookie cutter gear with the exception of maybe EOW

sadrilith

11-11-2011, 02:52 PM

Am i going to beable to buy a retail copy ?

GussJr

11-11-2011, 02:54 PM

<cite>sadrilith wrote:</cite><blockquote>Am i going to beable to buy a retail copy ?</blockquote>I am pretty sure this is no longer an option.

sadrilith

11-11-2011, 02:56 PM

well i bought DoV as a retail version dont see why this would change now

Onurissa

11-11-2011, 03:02 PM

<cite>sadrilith wrote:</cite><blockquote>well i bought DoV as a retail version dont see why this would change now</blockquote>Seems they made this "a digital expansion" means you can only Download it not buy a box copy.

Ruut Li

11-11-2011, 03:02 PM

<cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The sense of entitlement on these boards has never ceased to amaze me. Did anyone really think the expansion was going to go down versus stay the same or even go up? If you think a measely 40 dollars every 9 months to a year is too much, then maybe you should find another hobby. Oh, thats right, you probably can NOT find another form of entertainment that will keep you as occupied for as long a period for less money than that. "Oh, but its just features and not content!!1!" First of all, features ARE content and though I myself prefer a new land/world for an expansion to be built around, I also know that in just a few months we will be getting more of Velious which will fulfill that need. The developers did spend a lot of the year working on these features and deserve some compensation for them. The Free to Play announcement has brought out the scum in full force imo. People automatically feel like now they can cancel thier subscription yet STILL have full access to characters, items etc. This is a company with a goal to mak a profit. It isn't a charity or a hand out. Despite their flaws, at the end of the day they deliver good content for a fair price.As far as the collectors edition goes, it is 100% optional. For me and my playstyle (I enjoy almost all aspects of the game including raids, groups, soloing, TSing, and decorating) I find it absolutely worth the money. The expansion itself is $40 so that will have to be spent irregardless. Then you get a house, flying pegasus mount and many other things for ALL characters for only $20 more. If that mount were to go to the Marketplace it would be $20 by itself for ONE character so its a great deal to me.AoD looks good and I am looking forward to its features. For those that want a SOE handout, you might consider moving along and hoping some other multibillion dollar corporation will give you a bunch of free things. Good luck with that.</blockquote>Yeah come put your foot down when someone is crying for the win button whilst playing the game. But not expecting an uproar when people have to pay that amount for way less, quantity and quality wise, than before is just plain silly. Good for you that the "expansion" suits your playstyle. Those of us who are used to quality expansions and desire more than fluff will be unhappy, of course. What do you mean hand out? SOE has taken care of their adventurers for several years, and the adventurers have paid for the content. So now expectations of basic traditional content in expansions are asking for handouts?I agree with you that the devs have been working hard and devoted a lot of time...on decorating and fluff. The easy moneygrab. I do sense a tad of entitelment, from you. People have every right to fight for the game they love, especially when its starting to reak of decomp.

sadrilith

11-11-2011, 03:05 PM

Thats not cool at all, I like the box copys I collect them. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

darwich

11-11-2011, 03:07 PM

i dont remember there being a box available for DOV...

sadrilith

11-11-2011, 03:08 PM

<cite>darwich wrote:</cite><blockquote>i dont remember there being a box available for DOV... </blockquote>There was i bought it <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Cratoh

11-11-2011, 03:42 PM

Pre-Order EverQuest II - Age of Discovery Today!No. It's a rip off! lolI'd buy AA for 1k sc. Not happy about the prospect of paying the same as an console new release for a few bits of fluff though.

Hamervelder

11-11-2011, 03:56 PM

<cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The sense of entitlement on these boards has never ceased to amaze me. Did anyone really think the expansion was going to go down versus stay the same or even go up? If you think a measely 40 dollars every 9 months to a year is too much, then maybe you should find another hobby. Oh, thats right, you probably can NOT find another form of entertainment that will keep you as occupied for as long a period for less money than that. "Oh, but its just features and not content!!1!" First of all, features ARE content and though I myself prefer a new land/world for an expansion to be built around, I also know that in just a few months we will be getting more of Velious which will fulfill that need. The developers did spend a lot of the year working on these features and deserve some compensation for them. The Free to Play announcement has brought out the scum in full force imo. People automatically feel like now they can cancel thier subscription yet STILL have full access to characters, items etc. This is a company with a goal to mak a profit. It isn't a charity or a hand out. Despite their flaws, at the end of the day they deliver good content for a fair price.As far as the collectors edition goes, it is 100% optional. For me and my playstyle (I enjoy almost all aspects of the game including raids, groups, soloing, TSing, and decorating) I find it absolutely worth the money. The expansion itself is $40 so that will have to be spent irregardless. Then you get a house, flying pegasus mount and many other things for ALL characters for only $20 more. If that mount were to go to the Marketplace it would be $20 by itself for ONE character so its a great deal to me.AoD looks good and I am looking forward to its features. For those that want a SOE handout, you might consider moving along and hoping some other multibillion dollar corporation will give you a bunch of free things. Good luck with that.</blockquote>The problem with your post (beyond your haughty attitude), as it seems to me, is that you're looking at AoD as a singular event, rather than seeing the big picture. Look at past expansions. Look at how much content has been included for $40. Hundreds of quests. New items. A dozen or more dungeons. Raid zones. Overland zones. Hefty amounts of new features. Generally speaking, you get a lot for $40. Usually, EQ2's expansions are a pretty good value for the money. Now, look at Age of Discovery. Look at how little you're getting. Any new overland zones? Nope. New raid zones? Nope. A dozen or more new dungeons? Nope. Hundreds of new quests? Nope. Hundreds of new items? Nope. You're getting one new class, an unknown number of AA's, and two or three new features. That's it. You're getting a fraction of the content that you normally get, for the same price. There's no "sense of entitlement" as you so arrogantly put it. Much of the outcry is nothing more than people rightfully saying that, if you're going to charge us the same amount that you have for past expansions, then provide the same value that you have for past expansions. That should be a simple concept to grasp. Granted, some people are making unreasonable requests, such as being able to continue playing with all features if they cancel their subscription, but that's a different point entirely, and I'm not sure why you had to reference that here, unless you're just voicing your overall disgust with mankind. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I disagree with your assertion that getting a mount included with the expansion makes it worth the price. There was a time when players actually earned their mounts in the game. You seem to see the cash shop as a portion of the game's overall value, and that' saddening, because once you start letting the cash shop dictate what is and isn't a good value, then you've lost your bearings. Your logic makes no sense to me. Not only are you getting less content for your $40, but you think that's a good thing, because you don't have to spend more money, while continuing to get less content. It's as if you're saying, "It's okay that SOE is giving us less content for the same price, because they could be charging us even MORE, for less content!"At the end of the day, it's up to you to determine if there's a $40 value in the AoD purchase. Personally, I don't think that there is. There's less content in AoD than there was in the Splitpaw adventure pack, and that pack was $10. Think about that.

ratbast

11-11-2011, 04:19 PM

I think it would be helpful to customers if it was explained this way: soe wants to earn your monthly sub with dynamic world/content updates soe wants to earn your expac with features, races, classes, levels, aa soe wants to get your RMT with potions, appearance items, home decoration puts more pressure on content team to keep subs? not sure 'more' is the right word... although i do like dividing up the value so customer can purchase piecemeal what they like. i still have 2 concerns tho. 1) as a paying subscriber, i want more guarantees my experience wont change, and gradually be 'grandfathered' into free2play arrangement. calling me gold makes me extremely uncomfortable. i would feel MUCH more at ease if it was worded as free2play and live being merged and integrated; not moving to free2play model. and i get to be called a 'subscriber'. also i want to know what accounts are gimped so i dont invite them to my drunder group, identification of gimped players is a must 2) station cash will NEVER give advantage at end game asking for hardmode guilds to purchase RMT to just raid (small advantages will eventually become necessities) is totally unacceptable. all RMT items must be superfluous to HM raiding. nothing required for raiding should be purchaseable either (x2 debuff, myth/ER). no RMT clicky effects for combat swappable slots (weapons). I appreciate the effort to nerf the 8 year vet for raid situations. in combat rezzes are op. out of combat rezzes just speed up rebuffing. i hope it regains out of combat caster-dead rezzes.

GussJr

11-11-2011, 04:36 PM

<blockquote><cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The sense of entitlement on these boards has never ceased to amaze me. Did anyone really think the expansion was going to go down versus stay the same or even go up? If you think a measely 40 dollars every 9 months to a year is too much, then maybe you should find another hobby. Oh, thats right, you probably can NOT find another form of entertainment that will keep you as occupied for as long a period for less money than that. "Oh, but its just features and not content!!1!" First of all, features ARE content and though I myself prefer a new land/world for an expansion to be built around, I also know that in just a few months we will be getting more of Velious which will fulfill that need. The developers did spend a lot of the year working on these features and deserve some compensation for them. The Free to Play announcement has brought out the scum in full force imo. People automatically feel like now they can cancel thier subscription yet STILL have full access to characters, items etc. This is a company with a goal to mak a profit. It isn't a charity or a hand out. Despite their flaws, at the end of the day they deliver good content for a fair price.As far as the collectors edition goes, it is 100% optional. For me and my playstyle (I enjoy almost all aspects of the game including raids, groups, soloing, TSing, and decorating) I find it absolutely worth the money. The expansion itself is $40 so that will have to be spent irregardless. Then you get a house, flying pegasus mount and many other things for ALL characters for only $20 more. If that mount were to go to the Marketplace it would be $20 by itself for ONE character so its a great deal to me.AoD looks good and I am looking forward to its features. For those that want a SOE handout, you might consider moving along and hoping some other multibillion dollar corporation will give you a bunch of free things. Good luck with that.</blockquote></blockquote>Yes! A HUGE +1. Well said.

Pompeia

11-11-2011, 05:07 PM

Hi guys,On Everquest 2 wire they published the screenshots of the items of the collectors edition. I dont see there details about the number of AA, but at least we can preview the items now.<a href="http://eq2wire.com/2011/11/10/age-of-discovery-ce-item-screenshots-from-the-f2paod-livecast/#more-11601">http://eq2wire.com/2011/11/10/age-o...ast/#more-11601</a>

EQPrime

11-11-2011, 05:16 PM

<cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The only thing that has not been stated is the number of AAs and info on the dungeon maker, which is not even on Beta yet. And does the number of AAs really matter anyway? If its 25 or 50 you either want them or you don't. There is PLENTY of information out there to give you a general idea what your preordering. They have never told us every little detail of every little thing that was going to be in the expansion. Never!</blockquote>The AA increase is the only part of this "expansion" that matters for a good many people. The number and placement options will decide when I buy this "product" or not.I'm sure SOE is glad that you're willing to purchase this upcoming expansion and that your expectations of them are so low that you're even excited about it. Never have they released an expansion so lacking. While DoF was pretty weak, they followed it up with KoS, EoF, and RoK. The last 2 expansions were underwhelming but both SF and DoV were exponentially better than what we're being offered with age of disappointment.Also, if the design your own dungeon but not use your character feature isn't even in Beta yet do you really think it will be ready for the expansion's release?

Undaleh

11-11-2011, 05:45 PM

Why is this thing titled Age of Discovery? It doesnt sound like there is anything to actually explore or discover... or is this whole thing centered around a new character class or "discovery" of beastlords? If so that has got to be the weakest central idea for an expansion ever. Should I decide to go ahead on this it is solely because I never purchased the Velious expansion so essentially AoD would be free. Btw, why is Steam cheaper than SOE is for its own product? DoV is $30 there. Here's a marketing idea...discount the previous expansion a month or so prior to a new release and drive up sales before it is ultimately free with that new expansion. Here's another one. Give us our moneys worth. I will entertain job offers now.Anyway, I would have to agree with everyone else on this as well. Youshouldnt be charging for any of the things you are offering. A GU would have been more appropriate imo. Is this Everquest Next thing taking too much of your focus away from the here and now? Just a thought, but if this keeps up not only will I join the flock of people running away from this version of EQ, but I sure as hell won't be signing on for the same old crap in a new wrapper later on. TOR ftw 12/20!

Wolfsbaine

11-11-2011, 06:11 PM

You will still need to purchase DoV. This expansion is only the base game. So if you dont have DoV then you will miss out on all the free updates until 2013. You will also miss out on some of the AA as well

Undaleh

11-11-2011, 06:18 PM

So when did they stop adding all the previous expansions to the new one as a bundle? And what is a subscribing customer if not platinum, or am I misunderstanding this: "Platinum-level subscribers will also have access to the EverQuest II Destiny of Velious expansion"? Ir is it just that, access but with restrictions the same as any ftp'er?

Tyrus Dracofire

11-11-2011, 06:21 PM

remember, those adventure packs, Bloodlines and Splitpaws Saga only cost $10.00 each before they become free after EoF.older expansions were used to cost around $29.95 standard edition/$35.95 or $39.95 collector edition (had coins, or miniature figures.now they want $40+ for standard and $60+ for collector digitals? and no hard copy edition? that is huge jacked price for limited release contents? how many new zones? new raid zones? solo zones?those costs are just almost twice the cost of original eq2 released. it not good during in hard times of unstable economy, folks will decide to close accounts or go starve on canned food for several weeks and not having turkey dinner in late Nov, and it is holiday season and folks are hunting for bargians or cheaper deals.today, i saw "Skyrim" collection edition selling for $149., whoa, that is most absurd price i ever seen, but it is way out of reach of my budget, and have to settle for standard package, or wait around early 2012 for "dropped" price deal just like The Witchery did lowered the price once the market went stale, same as other "Total Wars" and "Civs" series.LOL, good luck on jacked price after release dates, i dont think many would spend that much, forcing many to buy early like if they have no choice or deciding to close the accounts due to unreasonable price. so, let see what happen after Dec 2011/Jan 2012 and see if others are leaving for cheaper and better quality games.it never good to drive away the players who love the game they play, are you creating more "ghost town" zones/servers?there was many joke comments on /chats about what is AoD stand for, "Accounts on Deplugging", "Age of Death" and many other varaitions of "AoD" as Alot of Dummies, or other swear words i dont want to mentioned.

aias

11-11-2011, 06:23 PM

<cite>Elhonas@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The sense of entitlement on these boards has never ceased to amaze me. Did anyone really think the expansion was going to go down versus stay the same or even go up? If you think a measely 40 dollars every 9 months to a year is too much, then maybe you should find another hobby. Oh, thats right, you probably can NOT find another form of entertainment that will keep you as occupied for as long a period for less money than that. "Oh, but its just features and not content!!1!" First of all, features ARE content and though I myself prefer a new land/world for an expansion to be built around, I also know that in just a few months we will be getting more of Velious which will fulfill that need. The developers did spend a lot of the year working on these features and deserve some compensation for them. The Free to Play announcement has brought out the scum in full force imo. People automatically feel like now they can cancel thier subscription yet STILL have full access to characters, items etc. This is a company with a goal to mak a profit. It isn't a charity or a hand out. Despite their flaws, at the end of the day they deliver good content for a fair price.As far as the collectors edition goes, it is 100% optional. For me and my playstyle (I enjoy almost all aspects of the game including raids, groups, soloing, TSing, and decorating) I find it absolutely worth the money. The expansion itself is $40 so that will have to be spent irregardless. Then you get a house, flying pegasus mount and many other things for ALL characters for only $20 more. If that mount were to go to the Marketplace it would be $20 by itself for ONE character so its a great deal to me.AoD looks good and I am looking forward to its features. For those that want a SOE handout, you might consider moving along and hoping some other multibillion dollar corporation will give you a bunch of free things. Good luck with that.</blockquote>The problem with your post (beyond your haughty attitude), as it seems to me, is that you're looking at AoD as a singular event, rather than seeing the big picture. Look at past expansions. Look at how much content has been included for $40. Hundreds of quests. New items. A dozen or more dungeons. Raid zones. Overland zones. Hefty amounts of new features. Generally speaking, you get a lot for $40. Usually, EQ2's expansions are a pretty good value for the money. Now, look at Age of Discovery. Look at how little you're getting. Any new overland zones? Nope. New raid zones? Nope. A dozen or more new dungeons? Nope. Hundreds of new quests? Nope. Hundreds of new items? Nope. You're getting one new class, an unknown number of AA's, and two or three new features. That's it. You're getting a fraction of the content that you normally get, for the same price. There's no "sense of entitlement" as you so arrogantly put it. Much of the outcry is nothing more than people rightfully saying that, if you're going to charge us the same amount that you have for past expansions, then provide the same value that you have for past expansions. That should be a simple concept to grasp. Granted, some people are making unreasonable requests, such as being able to continue playing with all features if they cancel their subscription, but that's a different point entirely, and I'm not sure why you had to reference that here, unless you're just voicing your overall disgust with mankind. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />I disagree with your assertion that getting a mount included with the expansion makes it worth the price. There was a time when players actually earned their mounts in the game. You seem to see the cash shop as a portion of the game's overall value, and that' saddening, because once you start letting the cash shop dictate what is and isn't a good value, then you've lost your bearings. Your logic makes no sense to me. Not only are you getting less content for your $40, but you think that's a good thing, because you don't have to spend more money, while continuing to get less content. It's as if you're saying, "It's okay that SOE is giving us less content for the same price, because they could be charging us even MORE, for less content!"At the end of the day, it's up to you to determine if there's a $40 value in the AoD purchase. Personally, I don't think that there is. There's less content in AoD than there was in the Splitpaw adventure pack, and that pack was $10. Think about that.</blockquote>Even better said! Good post Elhonna.

Ruut Li

11-11-2011, 06:36 PM

<cite>Uguv@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The only thing that has not been stated is the number of AAs and info on the dungeon maker, which is not even on Beta yet. And does the number of AAs really matter anyway? If its 25 or 50 you either want them or you don't. There is PLENTY of information out there to give you a general idea what your preordering. They have never told us every little detail of every little thing that was going to be in the expansion. Never!</blockquote>The AA increase is the only part of this "expansion" that matters for a good many people. The number and placement options will decide when I buy this "product" or not.I'm sure SOE is glad that you're willing to purchase this upcoming expansion and that your expectations of them are so low that you're even excited about it. Never have they released an expansion so lacking. While DoF was pretty weak, they followed it up with KoS, EoF, and RoK. The last 2 expansions were underwhelming but both SF and DoV were exponentially better than what we're being offered with age of disappointment.Also, if the design your own dungeon but not use your character feature isn't even in Beta yet do you really think it will be ready for the expansion's release?</blockquote>QFE

Aneova

11-11-2011, 07:06 PM

I'll give ya 10 bucks for beastlords and the AA you can ditch the rest since the FP stuff is free anyway.

Indabuff

11-11-2011, 07:25 PM

Wow not sure why everyone seems to feel the need to rant and rave about an expansion thats optional. If you dont like what is offered, simply dont buy it. I have to agree that 40 bucks is really not an earth shatteringprice given todays market but for some its harder I get that.Good news is if you dont buy it you wont be missing any content you will get all that with the purchase of DOV.As for those that seem to want to pick and choose what they will pay for....come on you really cant be seriousnow. It is what it is, buy, dont buy it.

dawy

11-11-2011, 08:25 PM

<cite>Elhonas@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Anestacia wrote:</cite><blockquote>The sense of entitlement on these boards has never ceased to amaze me. Did anyone really think the expansion was going to go down versus stay the same or even go up? If you think a measely 40 dollars every 9 months to a year is too much, then maybe you should find another hobby. Oh, thats right, you probably can NOT find another form of entertainment that will keep you as occupied for as long a period for less money than that. "Oh, but its just features and not content!!1!" First of all, features ARE content and though I myself prefer a new land/world for an expansion to be built around, I also know that in just a few months we will be getting more of Velious which will fulfill that need. The developers did spend a lot of the year working on these features and deserve some compensation for them. The Free to Play announcement has brought out the scum in full force imo. People automatically feel like now they can cancel thier subscription yet STILL have full access to characters, items etc. This is a company with a goal to mak a profit. It isn't a charity or a hand out. Despite their flaws, at the end of the day they deliver good content for a fair price.As far as the collectors edition goes, it is 100% optional. For me and my playstyle (I enjoy almost all aspects of the game including raids, groups, soloing, TSing, and decorating) I find it absolutely worth the money. The expansion itself is $40 so that will have to be spent irregardless. Then you get a house, flying pegasus mount and many other things for ALL characters for only $20 more. If that mount were to go to the Marketplace it would be $20 by itself for ONE character so its a great deal to me.AoD looks good and I am looking forward to its features. For those that want a SOE handout, you might consider moving along and hoping some other multibillion dollar corporation will give you a bunch of free things. Good luck with that.</blockquote>The problem with your post (beyond your haughty attitude), as it seems to me, is that you're looking at AoD as a singular event, rather than seeing the big picture. Look at past expansions. Look at how much content has been included for $40. Hundreds of quests. New items. A dozen or more dungeons. Raid zones. Overland zones. Hefty amounts of new features. Generally speaking, you get a lot for $40. Usually, EQ2's expansions are a pretty good value for the money. Now, look at Age of Discovery. Look at how little you're getting. Any new overland zones? Nope. New raid zones? Nope. A dozen or more new dungeons? Nope. Hundreds of new quests? Nope. Hundreds of new items? Nope. You're getting one new class, an unknown number of AA's, and two or three new features. That's it. You're getting a fraction of the content that you normally get, for the same price. There's no "sense of entitlement" as you so arrogantly put it. Much of the outcry is nothing more than people rightfully saying that, if you're going to charge us the same amount that you have for past expansions, then provide the same value that you have for past expansions. That should be a simple concept to grasp. Granted, some people are making unreasonable requests, such as being able to continue playing with all features if they cancel their subscription, but that's a different point entirely, and I'm not sure why you had to reference that here, unless you're just voicing your overall disgust with mankind. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />I disagree with your assertion that getting a mount included with the expansion makes it worth the price. There was a time when players actually earned their mounts in the game. You seem to see the cash shop as a portion of the game's overall value, and that' saddening, because once you start letting the cash shop dictate what is and isn't a good value, then you've lost your bearings. Your logic makes no sense to me. Not only are you getting less content for your $40, but you think that's a good thing, because you don't have to spend more money, while continuing to get less content. It's as if you're saying, "It's okay that SOE is giving us less content for the same price, because they could be charging us even MORE, for less content!"At the end of the day, it's up to you to determine if there's a $40 value in the AoD purchase. Personally, I don't think that there is. There's less content in AoD than there was in the Splitpaw adventure pack, and that pack was $10. Think about that.</blockquote>Great post

Avianna

11-11-2011, 08:53 PM

I am just here to add my opinion that this is way overpriced as well I feel that these improvements to the game as we have now are called GU's. New content, new worlds, and new quests are called expansions. This is a GU NOT an expansion and as such it should be free! I would be willing to pay no more than 29.99 for the collectors edition and even at that price SOE gets $120.00 of my money as I have 4 accounts.Where are the red names? we have ten pages of dissatisfied customers in this thread and we are only talking amongst ourselves. Not one post by any red name in all ten pages to do any explaining? This people is what SOE really feels of it's cusomers. And they wonder why WoW has so many more players than they do.... Here's a hint, ready? are ya ready for it? got your listening ears on? ok. STOP RIPPING US OFF!

Elskidor

11-11-2011, 09:01 PM

They still have not revealed how the new aa is going to work, and that is what will determine if the expansion is really optional. <cite>Indabuff wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow not sure why everyone seems to feel the need to rant and rave about an expansion thats optional. </blockquote>

Rainmare

11-12-2011, 06:26 AM

I see thier point in doing it this way.what happens every 'other' expansion so far? we get this big chunk of new quests, new lands, new dungeons. and in 3 months...they've been decimated. in those three months everyone learns every instance and raid strat, most the entire expansion is on farm status, the quests have all be figured out. and what happens, people clamor for new content, more stuff! more more more!now thier plan is to make the additions of things like AA, and new features be the 'bought' portion of the expansion, and give the rest in free game updates peice meal so there's something to look forward to in 3 months other then quit and wait for the next expansion.your paying 40/60 bucks now, for the features/new class/aa to help fund the withered lands, sirens grotto, western wastes, skyshrine, tov, probably a shard of mischief and a shard of growth, the dragon necropolis, ect that we're getting free over the next 2 years, minimum in content. oh and the new freeport and qeynos revamps. and any more optimizations along the way.that's how I think of it. I'm paying for features for immediate use upfront, and the next 2 years of 'GU' content coming my way.

Cratoh

11-12-2011, 06:33 AM

To add insult to injury, platinum f2p people are getting it for free.

crackers_87

11-12-2011, 07:08 AM

SO If we Pre-Order do we got a spot in the beta befor the people that don't Pre-Order?

SOE-MOD-02

11-12-2011, 07:25 AM

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Mienecrot

11-12-2011, 12:16 PM

<cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>your paying 40/60 bucks now, for the features/new class/aa to help fund the withered lands, sirens grotto, western wastes, skyshrine, tov, probably a shard of mischief and a shard of growth, the dragon necropolis, ect that we're getting free over the next 2 years, minimum in content. oh and the new freeport and qeynos revamps. and any more optimizations along the way.</blockquote>Personally, those zones should have been a part of DoV when it went live. Right now, for those of us that bought DoV, were being strung along to obtain parts of an expansion that we paid for some time ago. [Consider that these new DoV zones are associataed both with Velious and access is given only to those who purchase(d) DoV.] Purchasing AoD does not grant access to these zones when they finally go live.Right now, they are asking a minimum of $40 for:<ul><li>An unknown amount of AA to spend on current AA trees - with an unknown way that distribution of that new AA will occur</li><li>A new class (Beastlord) -- that appears modeled after a hunter type class in another game</li><li>A do it yourself dungeon builder - spend more to get the CE and get - more options (How soon until options are bought with SC?)</li><li>Buy your own group mates in AI form... (Ask any pet class how well that will likely work.)</li><li>Change the stats on your armor - so they don't have to. (Now where have I heard of this before?)</li><li>Tradeskill apprentice -- now I have to have an apprentice to find me recipes? Fluff or useful? Ones I already have or all new?</li></ul>What we are not seeing:<ul><li>New zones</li><li>New quests (questing... in a game named "EverQuest" -- we can't have that now can we)</li><li>Any new content comes from having purchased DoV -- and it'll be feed to us slowly over the next two years.</li></ul>AKA -- no actual content with this "expansion". Even the mini packs had more than this.Sad part is, I had just about convinced one of my friends to come back to the game - he wasn't quite high enough level to start in DoV content and decided to wait for AoD to get both. Now, I doubt he will get either and will likely head to a different game. (And probably drag me with him.)

gardee

11-12-2011, 12:37 PM

<cite>Icculuss@Unrest_old wrote:</cite><blockquote>Dear SoE:I understand you probably have pressure from above on making extre revenue off this. I, like everyone else, dont feel $40 is a fair value for existing customers.It *is* a fair price for new customers as they will get DoV with it.Simple solution, that wont please everyone but should please some: Give people who have DoV already an extra 2k Station cash upon pruchase of AoD. That will still get your $40 per pack, but give the customers a better value. Some will turn that SC into subscriptions, but most will buy some goodies like an extra character slot for their beastlord or maybe a new home. And more people will buy it so even if some use it for furthur subscription fees, your bottom line still improves. Its a win-win.==========================In the very least, an additional character slot should be included in the expansion for the flipping Beastlord. Really needs to come with a character slot and sold for about 20 bucks cheaper though.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++yeah why not a extra Char slot then surelyy that could be added ..what with all the down times we endure and accept .that is time we can not use our game we pay to use YET you never compensate for that time each week so surely Giving members a Char slot at least one slot would be acceptable to grant us</blockquote>

Rijacki

11-12-2011, 01:48 PM

<cite>Cratoh wrote:</cite><blockquote>To add insult to injury, platinum f2p people are getting it for free.</blockquote>$200/yr isn't free. Subscription for year recurring is $120ish. When Platinum was first offered as a plan, the fact you got the expansion included for free was one of the selling features for the high price.

Maisland

11-12-2011, 03:16 PM

A thought has occurred to me. After some research, I learned that this expansion will be available for SC. What was not clear was whether this only applies to the standard edition or if the collector's edition will also be available this way. If I can buy the collector's edition from the marketplace with SC, I may yet be able to buy it... even if I miss out on the "special pre-order" price.

Elskidor

11-12-2011, 04:05 PM

<cite>gardee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Icculuss@Unrest_old wrote:</cite><blockquote>Dear SoE:I understand you probably have pressure from above on making extre revenue off this. I, like everyone else, dont feel $40 is a fair value for existing customers.It *is* a fair price for new customers as they will get DoV with it.Simple solution, that wont please everyone but should please some: Give people who have DoV already an extra 2k Station cash upon pruchase of AoD. That will still get your $40 per pack, but give the customers a better value. Some will turn that SC into subscriptions, but most will buy some goodies like an extra character slot for their beastlord or maybe a new home. And more people will buy it so even if some use it for furthur subscription fees, your bottom line still improves. Its a win-win.==========================In the very least, an additional character slot should be included in the expansion for the flipping Beastlord. Really needs to come with a character slot and sold for about 20 bucks cheaper though.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++yeah why not a extra Char slot then surelyy that could be added ..what with all the down times we endure and accept .that is time we can not use our game we pay to use YET you never compensate for that time each week so surely Giving members a Char slot at least one slot would be acceptable to grant us</blockquote></blockquote>A character slot should be expected with it, but it's not included. That's bad enough until we learned it won't even include previous expansions. This entire thing is just poorly planned out. I would like to see a chart that shows the numbers of subscribers who jumped ship this year over one dumb decision after another. Maybe just the ftp numbers keep increasing and that's all that matters anymore, and their hopes is to run off everyone else. Ftp guys will buy anything without question, except a real subscription.

Nahdian

11-12-2011, 04:55 PM

I have played this game since the day it launched . I have purchased every expansion and adventure pack they came up with and never felt like I was getting ripped off. But this one is a totally different story. About the only thing that is of interest to me is the AA. And I am not sure I can justify paying $40 for that. Concidering that there is no level increase and I mostly solo anyway , and have no problem killing mobs that are 3 or 4 levels higher than me. Yeah I know some will say well don't buy it . But that is a moot point. I have been a loyal player of sony games since 1999. I have spent thousands of dollars and complained very little. I have come to expect a quality product from Sony. This in my oppinion is not a quality product for the price they are asking. The adventure packs were much cheaper and offered alot more content than AOD does.

Ruut Li

11-12-2011, 06:41 PM

If soe is too cheap to gift the "expansion" to their ancient loyal players, are they also too cheap to offer parts of the "expansion" through sc? Probably. PR has never been their pocket nuts. I'd buy the aa. The rest of the stuff is irrelevant overpriced fluff. okay the new class is more than fluff, but i dont care for scouts.

Cratoh

11-12-2011, 06:51 PM

<cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cratoh wrote:</cite><blockquote>To add insult to injury, platinum f2p people are getting it for free.</blockquote>$200/yr isn't free. Subscription for year recurring is $120ish. When Platinum was first offered as a plan, the fact you got the expansion included for free was one of the selling features for the high price.</blockquote>Not really true. Platinum is a better deal than monthly sub. Or was. On top of that, I and many others have been faithfully throwing money at SOE for years, eq2x plat people - 1 year tops? How is this fair, good customer loyalty, or a sensible business strategy in any way?

Te'ana

11-12-2011, 07:01 PM

The announcement e-mail from SOE says Fan Faire attendees will get the Collector's Edition. On my Fan Faire account it shows the Basic Edition, not the CE. Is this a mistake or was there a change and you have decided I should pay the extra cost for the CE?BTW: I want the house and it is not listed in my account details.Only these AoD items are listed as Enabled Features:Entitlement: Age of DiscoveryIn-Game Item: AoD Digital Pre-Order Bonus Beastlord Cloak

Amphibia

11-13-2011, 04:41 AM

<cite>Lateana@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>The announcement e-mail from SOE says Fan Faire attendees will get the Collector's Edition. On my Fan Faire account it shows the Basic Edition, not the CE. Is this a mistake or was there a change and you have decided I should pay the extra cost for the CE?BTW: I want the house and it is not listed in my account details.Only these AoD items are listed as Enabled Features:Entitlement: Age of DiscoveryIn-Game Item: AoD Digital Pre-Order Bonus Beastlord Cloak</blockquote>+1I was wondering about that too. I hope it is the collector's edition, because there isn't any option to buy it available. (I too would like that house :p)

Trouserwaffles

11-13-2011, 11:10 PM

SOE>I still haven't gotten anything in /claim for the AoD, nor was never invited to beta, can you please look into this?

therealnakorox

11-14-2011, 03:51 AM

<cite>Krowpa wrote:</cite><blockquote>.... (It was mentioned at Fan Faire, and a couple of times since then, that it would be 50 new AA points - the panic folks seem to have forgotten that.)... Eric</blockquote>I was at Fanfaire and attended every EQ2 topic I could (xpac topics took priority if conflicts). They did not commit to the number of AA's in any of them. Every time they were asked they were very evasive about the exact number. You can actually download most of the topics on youtube now. If you find a video where they promise a specific number I am sure many people would like to see it also...

MystsofLedge12

11-14-2011, 04:42 AM

That is my second biggest problem with AoD.... it is a bit vague on what is included, how many AA's is it, will they raise caps on your Tradeskill Subclass, Class, and Shadows Trees or give another 25 aa's to fill out the TS tree or pop the 20 or so unspent points into the other trees?Are we heading to raising AA to where you can theoretically put max points in all tree's.... as in "No need to change builds"And would it Kill someone at SOE to release exactly what the Beast Lord is other than from a topic deletion mention to up and coming class..... a couple screenshots would be nice other than the overpriced special warder pet. Releasing the images of a few races in beastlord mode would be a nice bone.Can they instead of create a dungeon fix the dungeon finder? and if Dungeon Finder is going to be live which it likely will be let us play a dungeon we make, though i'm not sure it will add all that much to the game to me it is sounding like a SC and Plat Sink.If they give out a few more details on this thing they may gain (or loose more) orders for AOD..... i'm still not convinced that $40 is reasonable for AOD..... so far i'd give $5 but would pay up to $15 or $20. In reality $40 isn't much money for me (only one account) its the principle in the past that $40 bought me acess to new zones, quests and dungeons. Is sony going to a nickel and dime your playerbase to get the most $$$ possible and if so is it time to check out SWTOR or similar for my Gaming Diversion from the Stress of Life?HOWZAT for CONSTRUCTIVE ?

Enever

11-14-2011, 05:34 AM

Not worth 40 dollars. Period.I paid less for Splitpaw Saga, and that alone has more content then this.This is at most (and I'm being generous) worth 15 dollars.With what little content we're getting this is absolutly redicilous for a pice.

Daalilama

11-14-2011, 05:59 AM

Pre-Order EverQuest II - Age of Discovery Today!What the title really means is the player base will be kept in the dark until live to exactly find out all the details on how buggy and worthless this overhyped adventure pack is and how much aa we will be allowed to get...just saying way to drop the ball big time not sure who is runing the marketing team but I'd venture to say probably same people who think no real advertising of the game whatsoever (that includes tv comercials) will generate new player base.....

Nrgy

11-14-2011, 12:21 PM

<cite>MystsofLedge12 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Are we heading to raising AA to where you can theoretically put max points in all tree's.... as in "No need to change builds"</blockquote>The thing with the AA is that regarless of how many are added without lifting or raising the caps on each tab we will all still be restricted to the same build mechanic as we are currently. Most people currently have 92 to 100 points spend in the Archtype tab which is the strongest tab for defining a usefull "Spec". So there are 214 available slots to put AA into on the Archtype alone but it is capped @ 100. Having 300 or 1,000 AA to spend is pointless when you are restricted to only spending 100 of them in a tab.Current Tab restrictions ... Max AA that current tab restrcitions will support = 345 ... and that is only IF you care in any way about Tradeskills. Pure adventurers can only apply 320 usefull AA under current restrictions.<ul><li>Tradeskill ........ 25</li><li>Archtype ....... 100</li><li>Class ............ 100</li><li>Shadow .......... 70</li><li>Heroic ............ 50</li></ul>

Stray

11-14-2011, 01:09 PM

Been playing this game since almost day 1.. and all I care about is grouping and mostly, raids. Content. I couldn't care less about houses, mounts, LoN and whatnot crap. This xpac tells me I have to pay $40 just to keep up in terms of AA. THIS in turn tells me I have to pay $40 for someone to raise an ingame counter from 300 to 350 - about 10 secs of dev work. You've got to be kidding me, right? ARE YOU LISTENING? This is plain thievery and nothing else. And please don't give me crap about "yeah but duh.. its optional" because the fools who say that have never been part of a regular raid before.

darwich

11-14-2011, 02:41 PM

<cite>Stray@Nektulos wrote:</cite><blockquote>Been playing this game since almost day 1.. and all I care about is grouping and mostly, raids. Content. I couldn't care less about houses, mounts, LoN and whatnot crap. This xpac tells me I have to pay $40 just to keep up in terms of AA. THIS in turn tells me I have to pay $40 for someone to raise an ingame counter from 300 to 350 - about 10 secs of dev work. You've got to be kidding me, right? ARE YOU LISTENING? This is plain thievery and nothing else. And please don't give me crap about "yeah but duh.. its optional" because the fools who say that have never been part of a regular raid before.</blockquote>you are not the only person that plays, and ALOT of people do care about other things, including houses, mounts etc.. once again, you dont HAVE to pay it. Just because people dont regularly raid doesnt mean they are fools, they just arent YOU.. Raiding is optional, just like buying this expansion is optional.. you arent doing alot for the elite raid mentality stereotype... heh.

Gerras

11-14-2011, 02:48 PM

Removed, I figured out the answer.

Stray

11-14-2011, 03:59 PM

<cite>darwich wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Stray@Nektulos wrote:</cite><blockquote>Been playing this game since almost day 1.. and all I care about is grouping and mostly, raids. Content. I couldn't care less about houses, mounts, LoN and whatnot crap. This xpac tells me I have to pay $40 just to keep up in terms of AA. THIS in turn tells me I have to pay $40 for someone to raise an ingame counter from 300 to 350 - about 10 secs of dev work. You've got to be kidding me, right? ARE YOU LISTENING? This is plain thievery and nothing else. And please don't give me crap about "yeah but duh.. its optional" because the fools who say that have never been part of a regular raid before.</blockquote>you are not the only person that plays, and ALOT of people do care about other things, including houses, mounts etc.. once again, you dont HAVE to pay it. Just because people dont regularly raid doesnt mean they are fools, they just arent YOU.. Raiding is optional, just like buying this expansion is optional.. you arent doing alot for the elite raid mentality stereotype... heh.</blockquote>Learn2read. I never said that people who dont raid are fools - I only meant that for people who make the "it is optional" comment towards raiders. I guess this now applies to you as well. Only point I am making is that most raiders who dont care about the fluffy stuff are probably still obliged to cough up because they can't be missing the AA increase - without getting any useful content in return.

Ayrmoon

11-14-2011, 07:25 PM

Hoping someone from the EQ II team can answer this one....How much hard drive space will AoD tale up? When you add GU62(? - the Freeport update) to it, what will that amount of space come to total? I only have 6GB of space on my hard drive so I would like to know if I need to start taking data off.Also, will playing two accounts on the same computer increase the amount of hard drive space needed?Thanks in advance for your answer <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />

jjlo69

11-15-2011, 01:05 AM

ok just so i read the oping post right AOD relesases nov 30 correctuncle

Cobalt Knight

11-17-2011, 04:36 AM

Outside all of the discussion of content vs cost, I just wanted to post to say well done on the work that has obviously gone in to the digital download ordering process for non-US customers.Living in a country where I haven't seen an EQ2 retail box since TSO, digital download is the only realistic option, and I have been quite critical in the past of how difficult SOE had made this (Sentinel's Fate and the whole head-start fiasco in particular.)I pre-ordered yesterday and was pleasantly surprised by how smooth it went. Everything was clearly laid out, displayed in local currency without prompting, and confirmed instantly.Click, Click, Click, Done.Thanks.

SOE-MOD-04

11-17-2011, 07:41 AM

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Cyliena

11-17-2011, 10:14 AM

<cite>Nianna@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>I still haven't gotten anything in /claim for the AoD, nor was never invited to beta, can you please look into this? </blockquote>AoD isn't released yet which would be why you've never gotten anything in /claim.

KindredHeart

11-17-2011, 01:06 PM

Questions:<ul><li>How many AAs will the increase include?</li><li>What is the actual release date?</li><li>Is there any difference in "bonus" items between digital pre-order and disc pre-order?</li></ul>Comments:I've never seen such a vague description of the content of an expansion before and this trend really concerns me as a loyal EQ2 player since launch. The trend has been a migration more and more toward a Microsoft model of release it - just get it out there. Doesn't matter if it's bugged, doesn't matter if it's incomplete. Get it out - get it sold - then do Service Pack releases later.The big problem with applying this model to a game is that your customers don't have real world need for your product, it is truly an optional purchase. And when you let purchase / product satisfaction drop to this extreme you will lose customers who might otherwise have been interested in your product. For myself, I want to see the game continue to have a healthy (and hopefully mostly happy) player base that sticks around for years to come.I realize it's too late for this "expansion", but please for the next one ... no more incremental release of expansion content. Game updates - yes ... expansions - no. An expansion should be complete in it's entirity upon release and should contain sufficient content at the time of that release to truly excite the population into buying it. All details of what people will be buying should also be able to be disclosed up front as well as the actual release date. If you can't at minimum provide those two details - then please just hold off on announcing anything at all until it's truly ready. As one of your customers my feedback to you is - I would rather wait an entire extra year for an expansion, than to keep following this Service Pack release gaming model.

Rijacki

11-17-2011, 01:12 PM

<cite>Vallar@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><ul><li>Is there any difference in "bonus" items between digital pre-order and disc pre-order?</li></ul></blockquote>There is no 'disc' pre-order or otherwise. This expansion will be released as digital only.

str8gone

11-17-2011, 01:56 PM

Hope Sony is getting a laugh out of all this expansion, I can tell you for a fact several members of my guild (raid guild that is) are not only not getting the expansion but will be quiting the game. Several of them have their accounts coming up with the first two weeks of December.Hope you enjoyed the no-content expansion that you want $60 for it and the massive side effects it is causing to your long term income.I myself have yet to buy the expansion and am currently leaning to a No on it and following suite of shutting my account down which is up in February I believe.

MystsofLedge12

11-17-2011, 02:09 PM

Since the announcement of the AoD pricing i've noticed a huge drop in activity, don't know how many pug's ive seen spend a lot of time looking for healer/tank/random class. and fewer 90 <instert class> LF <insert zone> ... maybe the time of year may be other things but in the last week or so its been noticeable.And still waiting for Red name to pop up and say hey guys we made a mistake AoD is getting the priced lowered ... especially if you pre-order. One would think a Pre-Order would be cheaper than the days after release, gives incentive to pre-order.

Banditman

11-17-2011, 02:27 PM

Unfortunately, your "incentives" are these pre-order items. Yay.And yes, $40 is way too much for this rather underwhelming excuse for an expansion. As a GU, this would be considered a good update (assuming it all works), as an expansion, it's terrible.Twenty bucks seems about right to me.

chrisg86

11-17-2011, 03:42 PM

All I can say is, I am canceling my station access and moving on to playing eq1 exclusively, there is no point in keeping it if they are moving to F2P and I agree this so called expansion is nothing more then an adventure pack, its like splitpaw or bloodlines, expect it doesn't appear to give any new zones and the so called features are targeted towards a specific audience rather then a game changing expansion. SOE is so far out of touch with their customer base its ridiculous.

Dracon

11-19-2011, 06:56 PM

I have tried to pre order age of discovery several times. it keeps saying the crt is empty and the buttons for selection do nothing please help

CorpseGoddess

11-19-2011, 08:06 PM

<cite>Dracon wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have tried to pre order age of discovery several times. it keeps saying the crt is empty and the buttons for selection do nothing please help</blockquote>What browser are you using? I would suggest trying a different one from the one you're using that isn't working. I often find that if I'm having issues like the one you're describing (not just with SOE, but other websites as well), it's often a browser issue. Try it and see if it works.

Tigress

11-19-2011, 08:21 PM

<cite>Amphibia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lateana@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>The announcement e-mail from SOE says Fan Faire attendees will get the Collector's Edition. On my Fan Faire account it shows the Basic Edition, not the CE. Is this a mistake or was there a change and you have decided I should pay the extra cost for the CE?BTW: I want the house and it is not listed in my account details.Only these AoD items are listed as Enabled Features:Entitlement: Age of DiscoveryIn-Game Item: AoD Digital Pre-Order Bonus Beastlord Cloak</blockquote>+1I was wondering about that too. I hope it is the collector's edition, because there isn't any option to buy it available. (I too would like that house :p)</blockquote>i dont have the email anymore but it's always been the regular edition. last year, they made provisions so ppl could pay an upgrade fee. the official site does *NOT* say CE.One (1) digital copy of the of the 8th EverQuest® II expansion pack*<a href="http://events.station.sony.com/fanfaire/pricing.vm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://events.station.sony.com/fanfaire/pricing.vm</a>

Tigress

11-19-2011, 08:23 PM

yes, i agree. this feature pack is overpriced! they can call it an expansion but it is clearly a feature pack. it reminds me of a WoW feature pack. i gave it a lot of consideration and decided that it is not worth $40 so i am not going to pay $40. when it shows up on amazon for $20, i'll likely get it then for my acct but i'm not sure that i'll get it for my son's acct.

Tyanu

11-19-2011, 08:43 PM

Overpriced =(

Te'ana

11-20-2011, 03:55 AM

You will see from the e-mail below that we were told we would get the Collector's Edition.<cite>Tigress wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Amphibia wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Lateana@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>The announcement e-mail from SOE says Fan Faire attendees will get the Collector's Edition. On my Fan Faire account it shows the Basic Edition, not the CE. Is this a mistake or was there a change and you have decided I should pay the extra cost for the CE?BTW: I want the house and it is not listed in my account details.Only these AoD items are listed as Enabled Features:Entitlement: Age of DiscoveryIn-Game Item: AoD Digital Pre-Order Bonus Beastlord Cloak</blockquote>+1I was wondering about that too. I hope it is the collector's edition, because there isn't any option to buy it available. (I too would like that house :p)</blockquote>i dont have the email anymore but it's always been the regular edition. last year, they made provisions so ppl could pay an upgrade fee. the official site does *NOT* say CE.One (1) digital copy of the of the 8th EverQuest® II expansion pack*<a rel="nofollow" href="http://events.station.sony.com/fanfaire/pricing.vm" target="_blank">http://events.station.sony.com/fanfaire/pricing.vm</a></blockquote> Customer Service Notification<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="530" align="center" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><tbody><tr><td height="15"></td></tr> <tr><td align="center">PLEASE READ THIS IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR EVERQUEST®II ACCOUNT!</td></tr> <tr><td height="15"></td></tr> <tr><td align="center"><img src="http://newsletters.station.sony.com/SOE_CSN/CSN_EQII_FanFaireAttendees/CSN_EQII_FanFaireAttendees_Logo.gif" width="280" height="156" /></td></tr> <tr><td height="15"></td></tr> <tr><td>You have been granted the EverQuest II Age of Discovery Collector's Edition as a thank you for attending Fan Faire 2011</td></tr> <tr><td height="20"></td></tr> <tr><td align="center"><a href="http://webmail.suddenlink.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Femail.soe.com%253A 80%252Ftrack%253Ftype%253Dclick%2526enid%253DbWFpb GluZ2lkPTQwMzgmbWVzc2FnZWlkPTM4MjAmZGF0YWJhc2VpZD0 zOTI3JnNlcmlhbD0xMjIzNTYyODY3JmVtYWlsaWQ9bXNoYWlue mVAc3VkZGVubGluay5uZXQmdXNlcmlkPTEzNDUmZXh0cmE9JiY m%2526%2526%25262007%2526%2526%2526https%253A%252F %252Faccount.station.sony.com%252Fauthenticated%25 2Fcam%252FsubscriptionsInfo.action%253Ftheme%253De q2%2526cid%253DEM4038%2526_mid%253D4038%2526_rid%2 53D4038.3927.1345" target="_blank"><img src="http://newsletters.station.sony.com/SOE_CSN/CSN_EQII_FanFaireAttendees/CSN_EQII_FanFaireAttendees_Button.gif" width="229" height="48" /></a></td></tr> <tr><td height="20"></td></tr> <tr><td>As a valued Fan Faire attendee, we are granting you free of charge the Age of Discovery Collector's Edition. Click on the log-in button above to reserve the expansion free of charge. When the game releases, you will get all of the features and in-game benefits associated with the Age of Discovery Expansion.</td></tr></tbody></table>

Thunderthyze

11-22-2011, 05:09 AM

$40 (who knows how many £ as I am sufficiently underwhelmed to go looking)?On top of that however I'm guessing the majority of people will also have to shell out for an extra character slot in order to play the beastlord part of the "expansion"?Well the banks have been shafting us for years I suppose we should be used to bending over and grabbing our ankles.

Wolfsbaine

11-22-2011, 11:49 AM

<cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>$40 (who knows how many £ as I am sufficiently underwhelmed to go looking)?On top of that however I'm guessing the majority of people will also have to shell out for an extra character slot in order to play the beastlord part of the "expansion"?Well the banks have been shafting us for years I suppose we should be used to bending over and grabbing our ankles.</blockquote>From what I can see you are using the Brittish Pound so that would be. 40 USD = 25.59 GBP. I think there is a little more added for other fee's, but I am not totally sure yet

Dampari

11-22-2011, 12:54 PM

SAD SAD SAD.... I have been waiting for the beastlord forever and well now that it is coming I dont even want it anymore. I cant pay for something that seems to be clearly dieing. Just so hard to get groups and the questing is just boring or needs a group to complete. Looks like my long run with SoE is coming to an end. Time to start a new one with SWTOR.

simianthief

11-22-2011, 04:57 PM

Have you played on EQ2x? The population is coming. Quality will only maintain if long-time players hang around and teach the new players how to play the game and find the enjoyment in it.

EvilAstroboy

11-23-2011, 12:01 PM

So is this actually coming out next Wednesday like advertised?

Filly67

11-23-2011, 04:51 PM

Can we please get a date of when the pre-order option will end? We need to buy multiple copies and are trying to plan for it. Would hate to mis the pre order by one day or so.

cutiechicchi

11-23-2011, 04:53 PM

yes, when is pre-order ending and when is the expac really coming out? there isn't any open beta yet even..

Karrane1

11-23-2011, 05:02 PM

Anyone having trouble doing the preorder ? I have tried 4 times and keep getting an error but its not telling me what the error is 8(. And it will be billing the credit card that I pay monthly with, so I know its current.

Hirofortis

11-25-2011, 01:47 AM

Can anyone say if it is one house per character? Also what about the mount is it one per character or just one? This pre-order is so vague it is madddening. All other xpacs have ben 1 per character so would really hope that for that price it is one per character. Please answer this.

CorpseGoddess

11-25-2011, 04:42 AM

<cite>Karrane1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anyone having trouble doing the preorder ? I have tried 4 times and keep getting an error but its not telling me what the error is 8(. And it will be billing the credit card that I pay monthly with, so I know its current. </blockquote>Have you tried a different browser? This always works for me--if the browser I'm using doesn't work, I try a different one. For example, I tried pre-ordering with Chrome, which didn't work. I switched to Firefox and had no issues.

CorpseGoddess

11-25-2011, 04:42 AM

<cite>Hirofortis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Can anyone say if it is one house per character? Also what about the mount is it one per character or just one? This pre-order is so vague it is madddening. All other xpacs have ben 1 per character so would really hope that for that price it is one per character. Please answer this.</blockquote>Well, going on past xpacs, the Everfrost Summer Home and the mounts were 1 per character. I would imagine this would be the same.

Kitsi

11-25-2011, 10:46 AM

<cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Hirofortis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Can anyone say if it is one house per character? Also what about the mount is it one per character or just one? This pre-order is so vague it is madddening. All other xpacs have ben 1 per character so would really hope that for that price it is one per character. Please answer this.</blockquote>Well, going on past xpacs, the Everfrost Summer Home and the mounts were 1 per character. I would imagine this would be the same.</blockquote>Sadly Streppoch, so much has changed in the past 30-60 days, I don't hold out that anything that "used" to happen will happen in the future. We have almost details on a features pack (outside of general statements) which makes pre-ordering pretty difficult. It also allows plenty of time for SoE to "re-think" what will..and won't...be included. Heck..if no one really knows what they are getting, how could they be unhappy with the product?Now days, I make no assumptions on what SoE will do. We will just have to wait and see.

Cyliena

11-25-2011, 11:56 AM

<cite>Kitzii@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Hirofortis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Can anyone say if it is one house per character? Also what about the mount is it one per character or just one? This pre-order is so vague it is madddening. All other xpacs have ben 1 per character so would really hope that for that price it is one per character. Please answer this.</blockquote>Well, going on past xpacs, the Everfrost Summer Home and the mounts were 1 per character. I would imagine this would be the same.</blockquote>Sadly Streppoch, so much has changed in the past 30-60 days, I don't hold out that anything that "used" to happen will happen in the future. We have almost details on a features pack (outside of general statements) which makes pre-ordering pretty difficult. It also allows plenty of time for SoE to "re-think" what will..and won't...be included. Heck..if no one really knows what they are getting, how could they be unhappy with the product?Now days, I make no assumptions on what SoE will do. We will just have to wait and see.</blockquote>Wow, I had to go digging a lot more than I expected, but this was <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x/posts/list.m?start=30&topic_id=10364#85731" target="_blank">answered already</a> on the X forums:<cite>Smokejumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>All CE items are claimable once per character (not account). This includes things like this mount, the Lavastorm home, the collector's armor and cloak, etc. Plus, all the unique stuff like the unique Beastlord warder (which is really an account-wide grant, not a claimable item), a unique Dungeon Maker layout and unique spawner.</blockquote>We never got an answer as to whether or not the mount is just a mount or another silly egg quest we have to do. DoV's CE mount has left me skeptical there.

Hirofortis

11-25-2011, 07:02 PM

<cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kitzii@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Hirofortis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Can anyone say if it is one house per character? Also what about the mount is it one per character or just one? This pre-order is so vague it is madddening. All other xpacs have ben 1 per character so would really hope that for that price it is one per character. Please answer this.</blockquote>Well, going on past xpacs, the Everfrost Summer Home and the mounts were 1 per character. I would imagine this would be the same.</blockquote>Sadly Streppoch, so much has changed in the past 30-60 days, I don't hold out that anything that "used" to happen will happen in the future. We have almost details on a features pack (outside of general statements) which makes pre-ordering pretty difficult. It also allows plenty of time for SoE to "re-think" what will..and won't...be included. Heck..if no one really knows what they are getting, how could they be unhappy with the product?Now days, I make no assumptions on what SoE will do. We will just have to wait and see.</blockquote>Wow, I had to go digging a lot more than I expected, but this was <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2x/posts/list.m?start=30&topic_id=10364#85731" target="_blank">answered already</a> on the X forums:<cite>Smokejumper wrote:</cite><blockquote>All CE items are claimable once per character (not account). This includes things like this mount, the Lavastorm home, the collector's armor and cloak, etc. Plus, all the unique stuff like the unique Beastlord warder (which is really an account-wide grant, not a claimable item), a unique Dungeon Maker layout and unique spawner.</blockquote>We never got an answer as to whether or not the mount is just a mount or another silly egg quest we have to do. DoV's CE mount has left me skeptical there.</blockquote>Thanks, it is a pain to find answers like this across 2 games forums pages. Now hopefully marketting will honor what smoke said here.

Jezabhel

11-29-2011, 12:27 AM

2 days til xpac per this post!!

MystsofLedge12

11-29-2011, 12:59 AM

watch pre orders are so low they delay launch for a weekStill haven't pre-ordered and will not at $40

Isulith

11-29-2011, 01:06 AM

The expansion is set to release early December 2011. We'll give further information during tomorrow's webcast, which is set to broadcast at 4:00 PM PST. More information on the webcast can be found here: <a href="http://www.everquest2.com/news/read/current/5045">http://www.everquest2.com/news/read/current/5045</a>. We're extremely sorry for the confusion on the date here!

SisterTheresa

11-29-2011, 09:26 AM

Can anyone tell me how long the pre-order is up to? Won't get the cash til December 1st and really would like that CE.

Jezabhel

11-29-2011, 11:03 AM

Lol. Way to edit it to say early December. SOE is becoming more and more fail recently...good thing I screenshoted it yesterday before the edit to where it said November 30.

Wolfsbaine

11-29-2011, 11:52 AM

<cite>Jezabhel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Lol. Way to edit it to say early December. SOE is becoming more and more fail recently...good thing I screenshoted it yesterday before the edit to where it said November 30.</blockquote>Well they also say the game and content is always subject to change. I figured they would push it back. It is always a mess, and we all come back for more headaches.

Vukota

11-29-2011, 01:20 PM

<cite>MystsofLedge12 wrote:</cite><blockquote>watch pre orders are so low they delay launch for a weekStill haven't pre-ordered and will not at $40</blockquote>NAIL ON THE HEAD.

Cyliena

11-29-2011, 01:35 PM

<cite>Wolfsbaine@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jezabhel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Lol. Way to edit it to say early December. SOE is becoming more and more fail recently...good thing I screenshoted it yesterday before the edit to where it said November 30.</blockquote>Well they also say the game and content is always subject to change. I figured they would push it back. It is always a mess, and we all come back for more headaches.</blockquote>This was the only thing that ever said November 30th. Everything else has said December 2011. I'm guessing that this is not indication of a recent decision to push back--I think the date has been pushed back ever since around the time of the pre-order and F2P announcements.Isulith just never caught on (until yesterday in the launchpad announcement thread) to everyone pointing out that the date in this thread was inconsistant with everything else. /shrug

Valdaglerion

11-29-2011, 02:34 PM

<cite>Cratoh wrote:</cite><blockquote>To add insult to injury, platinum f2p people are getting it for free.</blockquote>Everyone had the opportunity to get this subscription when it was available. You cant really fault those who put the money out up front for the subscription which included the xpacs. Hind sight is always 20/20 and usually bitter.

KindredHeart

11-29-2011, 02:40 PM

Without an official release date can we at least be told how long the pre-order pricing will be available? If I can't know one I'd love to at least know the other.*frustrated - GRRRR*

Isulith

11-29-2011, 03:01 PM

<cite>Jezabhel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Lol. Way to edit it to say early December. SOE is becoming more and more fail recently...good thing I screenshoted it yesterday before the edit to where it said November 30.</blockquote>All of the other threads and announcements said early December. This is not a new decision and we are working hard to make sure the game comes out as polished as possible. We will give the official date just as soon as we can.

Isulith

11-29-2011, 03:03 PM

<cite>Cyliena wrote:</cite><blockquote>This was the only thing that ever said November 30th. Everything else has said December 2011. I'm guessing that this is not indication of a recent decision to push back--I think the date has been pushed back ever since around the time of the pre-order and F2P announcements.Isulith just never caught on (until yesterday in the launchpad announcement thread) to everyone pointing out that the date in this thread was inconsistant with everything else. /shrug</blockquote>You are correct Cyliena. There've been more than a few things going on with all these announcements and whatnot. This one did slip under my radar. I'm sorry that it caused any confusion to anyone.

Nrgy

11-29-2011, 03:16 PM

<cite>Isulith wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jezabhel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Lol. Way to edit it to say early December. SOE is becoming more and more fail recently...good thing I screenshoted it yesterday before the edit to where it said November 30.</blockquote>All of the other threads and announcements said early December. This is not a new decision and we are working hard to make sure the game comes out as polished as possible. We will give the official date just as soon as we can.</blockquote>I suppose this is unrelated...What if I currently have both an EQII subscription and EQ2X memberships?If you currently have both an EQII subscription and EQ2X Gold or Platinum membership, these accounts will be combined at the time of the Free-to-Play switch (November 30, 2011). Any unused game time will be credited to your account.

Vukota

11-29-2011, 05:32 PM

<cite>Isulith wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jezabhel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Lol. Way to edit it to say early December. SOE is becoming more and more fail recently...good thing I screenshoted it yesterday before the edit to where it said November 30.</blockquote>All of the other threads and announcements said early December. This is not a new decision and we are working hard to make sure the game comes out as polished as possible. We will give the official date just as soon as we can.</blockquote>Come on folks! All these new zones, instances, raid encounters and quests in the new expansion need polishing! SOE does NOT want to deliver an underwhelming sub-par expansion to its loyal player base!/sarcasm off

Cambin

11-30-2011, 02:26 PM

Soooooo are you going to fix the pricing error before December 6th? Surely the $39.99 was a .gif leftover from DoV?

theriatis

11-30-2011, 03:02 PM

Hi,as a friendly SOE MOD directed us here from another thread to leave our feedback, here i am:I would pay 10$ - so, i cancelled my Preorder.Fallen Dynasty did cost more but was also worth much, much more.I'll still visit Nizara for the memories and Chel'Drak to say hello.Would have happily bought (with screaming giggles) a DOV 2 Expansion.Anyway, i'll stay a paying customer. I just hope the content comes soon enough before half of our guild leaves for SWTOR <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Regards, theriatis.

Nrgy

11-30-2011, 03:10 PM

<cite>theriatis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hi,as a friendly SOE MOD directed us here from another thread to leave our feedback, here i am:I would pay 10$ - so, i cancelled my Preorder.Fallen Dynasty did cost more but was also worth much, much more.I'll still visit Nizara for the memories and Chel'Drak to say hello.Would have happily bought (with screaming giggles) a DOV 2 Expansion. <-- You did, but it won't be released until MarchAnyway, i'll stay a paying customer. I just hope the content comes soon enough before half of our guild leaves for SWTOR <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> <-- you can't stop them from leaving and if AoD was DoV part 2 or 92 it wouldn't matter to those leaving for SW:tORRegards, theriatis.</blockquote>

Gaarysal

11-30-2011, 06:04 PM

<cite>theriatis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hi,as a friendly SOE MOD directed us here from another thread to leave our feedback, here i am:I would pay 10$ - so, i cancelled my Preorder.Fallen Dynasty did cost more but was also worth much, much more.I'll still visit Nizara for the memories and Chel'Drak to say hello.Would have happily bought (with screaming giggles) a DOV 2 Expansion.Anyway, i'll stay a paying customer. I just hope the content comes soon enough before half of our guild leaves for SWTOR <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" />Regards, theriatis.</blockquote>+1, fallen dynasty was a great content pack, emphasis on content, with a reasonable price. For $40 we get nothing new to explore. The whole DoV one price model garbage went out the window when in 1 years time we got 4 new heroic zones and 4 raid zones which all have screwed up loot and buggy encounters still waiting to be fixed. If we had received enough zones over that peroid of time that combined would equal even close to an expansion, AoD would not seem so bad.P.S. nda should be lifting soonish as per the webcast yesterday, can't wait to see everyone's already low expectations be crushed further

Dyeana

11-30-2011, 07:14 PM

<table cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="top"> </td><td height="28" valign="top"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="100%"><img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/styles/EQ2/eq2_default/images/common/icon_minipost.gif" border="0" width="12" height="9" /> 11/29/2011 12:32:21 Subject: Re:Re:Re<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />re-Order EverQuest II - Age of Discovery Today! </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><hr /></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><cite>Isulith wrote:</cite>Come on folks! All these new zones, instances, raid encounters and quests in the new expansion need polishing! SOE does NOT want to deliver an underwhelming sub-par expansion to its loyal player base!</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table> What new zones, instances, raid encounters and quests???? None were promised in this GU. Or did I miss a lot of addition to this expansion? Dye

Marialle

11-30-2011, 08:55 PM

I pre-ordered the CE. Seriously, people, if all you're going to do is complain about it, don't post.

Kitsune75

11-30-2011, 10:59 PM

<cite>Xariama@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I pre-ordered the CE. Seriously, people, if all you're going to do is complain about it, don't post.</blockquote>I preordered as well, but the regular version. Actually the Beastlord is what brought me back to EQ2. Hopefully I have as much fun as I had with my BL in EQ1.

Senvilan_Aphoticgaze

12-01-2011, 02:14 AM

<cite>Xariama@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I pre-ordered the CE. Seriously, people, if all you're going to do is complain about it, don't post.</blockquote>And why shouldn't they complain if they feel something isn't fair? Going by your logic, things would never change for the better. Besides, mods have been closing all of the threads about the complaints and telling them to come here to voice their opinion, so they're doing what they have been told.Now I'll end this with an equally pointless, yet situationally appropriate reversal - If all you're going to do is complain about people complaining, even if it's well with-in the realm of legitimacy, don't post.

SisterTheresa

12-01-2011, 11:21 AM

<cite>Kitsune75 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Xariama@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I pre-ordered the CE. Seriously, people, if all you're going to do is complain about it, don't post.</blockquote>I preordered as well, but the regular version. Actually the Beastlord is what brought me back to EQ2. Hopefully I have as much fun as I had with my BL in EQ1.</blockquote>Same. Honestly, I am agreeing with many people about the pricing being a bit too high, as it is more fluff than real content (meaning no whole new continents) but I too cannot wait for the BL, so I picked up the regular edition.

MystsofLedge12

12-01-2011, 02:19 PM

<cite>Xariama@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I pre-ordered the CE. Seriously, people, if all you're going to do is complain about it, don't post.</blockquote>Ok we heartily disagree with you..... we see SOE trying to pull some wool on us here that isn't right. Most players agree the cost for the expansion is a bit way too high.Most agree that the F2P isn't the best direction for the gameseriously i'm telling them here, and likely tell them with my pocketbook when i do not or will not pre order or buy their Expansion Feature Pack for $39.99

TorrynWoodsrunner

12-01-2011, 04:06 PM

<cite>Xariama@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I pre-ordered the CE. Seriously, people, if all you're going to do is complain about it, don't post.</blockquote>If we don't post, and speak our minds politely and professionally, then they don't know that we're dissatisfied, and nothing...ever...changes. So, with all due respect...if you don't want to read us complaining, don't read. And if you don't want to fuel the fire, don't respond. I'm posting here because of YOU. Directly. So my post is YOUR fault. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" />That said, I'll add my two coppers to the kitty: This expansion is seriously over-priced, especially in comparison to the prior expansion, which while also overpriced for a digital download, contained considerably more readily acknowledgable 'content' than this.Part of the problem is that SOE is, and has been, very stingy about discussing anything in any form of detail until the last possible moment. And even then, it's practically impossible to pin anyone down and get a solid, straight answer. Now, to be fair, Smokejumper HAS been coming forward more lately with what's going through the minds and meetings of the Dev Team. And progress IS being made. But poor decisions are still being made, and it is our voice and support (or lack thereof) that's going to let them know when these poor decisions are happening.Free-to-Play/Reintigration of EQ2X/Slimline Pricing Plan: Good decision. Probably the best one they could have made. Been spouting this pretty much since EQ2X went hot, almost exactly the way they're implementing it. I love it when I'm right.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />Station Cash for recurring Subscriptions: Three words: ABOUT. FRIGGING. TIME.New launcher: Good decision, sounds like it'll need a little further tweaking, but ditching the Flash requirement is a good thing.Age of Discovery pricing: Bad decision, especially when they're launching F2P simultaneously. A lower price point would provoke far more people into purchase/pre-order, especially those people who may have been gone for considerable periods of time. I see this as a bad marketing move - "Hey, the game is free now! Come back! Then pay as much for the new incidental stuff as you would for a full game!". My usual response to such methods is "Screw that, I'll buy a full game."SOE Discussion/Feedback/Response: Poor...but improving. As long as it continues to trend upward, you won't hear me complain much. But don't think I'm not watching to make sure it's trending upwards, and don't think I won't start hollaring if it backslides. Brasse and Domino know full well how much I can hollar.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" />

Hirofortis

12-01-2011, 04:12 PM

<cite>MystsofLedge12 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Xariama@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I pre-ordered the CE. Seriously, people, if all you're going to do is complain about it, don't post.</blockquote>Ok we heartily disagree with you..... we see SOE trying to pull some wool on us here that isn't right. Most players agree the cost for the expansion is a bit way too high.Most agree that the F2P isn't the best direction for the gameseriously i'm telling them here, and likely tell them with my pocketbook when i do not or will not pre order or buy their Expansion Feature Pack for $39.99</blockquote>ok, I LOL'ed at this post. I think that the general consensous would be that people feel it is priced to high. I don't think anyone is going to disagree here. That being said, sales will tell the tale.Um, about most people thinking that f2p is the wrong way to go. You might want to post your statistics here. I think you will find it evenly split between the yes and No's with a fair majority not caring one way or another becasue it does not change there gameplay at all. The model they have come up with gets more people into the game, lets those that have been doing a subscription get the same thing they have been getting and even some bonus SC. I know a lot of people who have no problem at all with the model and many who actually like the model. So the most of us don't like it card is FAIL. I have preordered the expansion/feature/addon pack and will enjoy building up my SC so I can purchase future packs from that. In the end the game is changing and more importantly the market is changing. This is a great game and if they can bring more people into it, it would be nice. I have played on the live and free servers and must say, there is a lot bigger population on the free servers. Now the question is, what type of population. You get a lot of people who are new to the game, who are trying to learn the game, who are exploring the game, kinda like when it was new. Maybe people have forgotten in there rush to be all powerful end game content what it is like to be new to the game. You might actually find some new people to have fun with in game if you give it a chance.So in the end, expect they will try there hand at this and see if the model is supportable. If it is, things might grow, if not, they will have to look at other models, either way, they need to do something becasue we are loosing people regularly. Heck, I like the content coming out thoughout the year. Get tired of seeing the rush to the end game, quit for 6 months, come back and rush to the end game.

Coniaric

12-01-2011, 05:19 PM

To be honest, I think Collector's Edition is a better value over the Standard verison.If we accordingly follow the prices on SC, the rent-free house and the mount easily amount to half of the pre-order price ($60). Plus unique Beastlord warder, an armor set and cloak, and all the rest. And they're per character so basically limitless.I know the stuff are fluff, but I do think this is something to consider about.

MystsofLedge12

12-01-2011, 05:50 PM

My biggest complaint and I think many agree, is this "Expansion" isn't actually expanding any new content.No new zones/instances/raids, had they released a new continent say a newly found land of the beastlords with new stuff i'd happily pay the price asked.as for the free housing, all I have to say is UHHHH ok you can't afford 5-10 Gold in "rent" a week, then maybe you are doing something incorrectly. If one will run any of the instance zones in DoV there is enough to keep your rents paid fof about 2-3 months and that is off the shard chest.As far as whats coming the pro's dont all outweigh the cons.Take the 500SC per month doesn't mean that much to me i rarely buy from the Marketplace, but thank you SOE just the same i'll take the $5 in sony-money if you are offering it.freeport revamp - good idea, Kelethin, New Halas and Gorwyn have been one continous zone for a while make the original cities that way is good.F2P - TBH i am really on a wait and see mode, i think it can go two ways a) it brings more people in that may go and sub up to end game or b)the influx of F2P players will bog servers down, lower player quality and most will not sub to play end game.But i digress those aren't part of the upcoming expansion those are free to allBeastlords, i think its about time to add a new class, it was popular from EQ1 and has a place.Reforging - if it works like i hope it does, great but its still a mysteryDYOD - ehh may or may not partake, i used to enjoy making scenarios in my Strat GamesAA Increase.... well i'm a tad sore on that i would have guessed they would give out at least 25 to keep your build plus add to the TS tree if you want or put 20 in the remaining trees and pop 5 over in TS ..... Ideally they would have given us 45 to do both, or better yet unlock the tree's so that some classes don't need to worry about a dps build vs tank build, healing build, raid build, group build and solo build, but i'm being lazy there.TS Aprentices - may actually convince me to ts, is a part of the game i rarely partake in but many do so not a bad itemMercenaries, a double edged sword if you ask me are they a symptom of low server populations or are they something to help people play with under manned groups etc. I think a neat idea overallStill this isn't worth $40.... is it time for an occupy Quenos Harbor movement?

Lempo

12-01-2011, 05:55 PM

<cite>Dyeana wrote:</cite><blockquote> What new zones, instances, raid encounters and quests???? None were promised in this GU. Or did I miss a lot of addition to this expansion? </blockquote>Maybe you are not familiar with /sarcasm

ForestElder

12-08-2011, 02:31 PM

I found this expansion not so exciting and really not worth the money unless you drop the price. Come on SOE you can do better then this! No new zones and you dont get the previous expansions.